Archive: 19 September 2005 to 8 November 2005

Just a quick note to tell you how much I appreciate your watching my back and reverting that AOL vandal who was screwing around on my user page. Owe ya one! - Lucky 6.9 17:58, 19 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Rather than adding another item to your TOC, let me add my thanks for reverting my user page here. Cheers, Banyan Tree 01:26, 20 September 2005 (UTC) reply

To both: you're welcome! Anything I can do to make this a nicer place to be, I will do, and I get a particular pleasure from reverting vandalism to people's user space. Happy editing, Antandrus (talk) 01:46, 20 September 2005 (UTC) reply

And I as well. Only the second vandal to hit my page, so now I feel like I've officially been baptized as a user/admin. Thanks a lot. Bratsche ^{talk | Esperanza} 02:56, 20 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Yes, it's very "special", isn't it?  :-) It usually means you're doing something right! Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 03:00, 20 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Antandrus,

Thank for the help regarding the Jeff Ellison article. I've since found a similar article at Subway Posse. I'm sorry to bother you with this, as I'm sure it's not your job, but I'm not sure where to list it. Would it be better to continue to post it at the Village Pump ? Again thanks for your time. MadMax 20:08, 19 September 2005 (UTC) reply

• Antandrus, again thanks for your help. I was curious though, I seem to recall there being a listing of notices on both the speedy delete and RC Patrol pages however they seem to be gone now. Have they been removed or simply redirected to another page ? MadMax 20:38, 19 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for reverting the vandalism at my user page! -- bdesham 03:36, 20 September 2005 (UTC) reply

You're welcome! There was a lot of that to go around today... I think it's all fixed now. Antandrus (talk) 03:40, 20 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Hello again, I have (unilatterly) taken away the 'assembly' idea, as per my reasons at that edit summary and per Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Charter. I have left the admin general, as some leadership is good. Now, all you have to do is be a member to establish consensus, the whole assembly idea is gone. Also, I have added an advisory committee, of four members, with limited power besides watching over the admin general and making sure he doesn't do anything stupid. Please look at the ammended charter, and I would love a comment. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 23:47, 20 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you for watching my page and others for vandalism. Dudtz 9/21/05 5:18 PM EST

Hello Antandrus. As you may or may not know, there have been some troubles with Esperanza. So now, as a last ditch to save the community, please vote at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Reform on all neccisary polls. P.S. I'm very sorry for spamming you all with these messages, and this will be the last time. I recommend putting ESP on your watchlist. Cheers and please look at that, let's stop the civil war then. R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:41, 22 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Enjoy your (semi-)Wikibreak and happy writing! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:02, 28 September 2005 (UTC) reply

…with which sentiments I associate myself.

By the way, if we ever get a way to enter music Wiki-fashion as we can for maths

${\displaystyle 2\sum _{0}^{n}{x}=n(n+1)}$

(and now I notice Wikiversity have asked for it) we could all contribute to a Wikipedia symphony. It's an interesting thought, if not necessarily a practical suggestion! -- RobertG ♬ talk 15:58, 28 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for reverting my user page. Zach (Sound Off) 03:08, 30 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you, Antandrus, for the kind words and support on my recent RfA. I'm sure I'll enjoy being an admin once this bug is fixed! In fact, while I'm here I'll take the opportunity to restate my appreciation for all your help and support on the Wiki. -- RobertG ♬ talk 10:38, 30 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my User page, and for your vote of confidence on my RfA--all within 3 minutes! Owen× ☎ 19:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page, you must have done it while I was laughing at it. Ben D. 22:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC) reply

I believe he was trying to imply that I was a homosexual. Ben D. 22:34, 30 September 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks very much. :) It just seemed absurd that Yo-Yo Ma would play a violin sonata, that's all. And I venture to say it would have to be a very good arrangement, considering the 'cello writing Brahms probably did.

Do you have a website with your compositions, by chance? -- Dri3s 22:58, 2 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the quick response. Yeah, well, come to think of it, you're right: the entire article needs to be rewritten. I think I'll do it myself tomorrow and invite you to look at the results. In case you happen to like Verdi, I assure you you won't be disappointed.

In the meantime... since you're a composer... and I'm the paying customer... and, with some reservations, we both agree on that...

I suggest you read (if only for fun) this article (when you have a free twenty minutes) -

http://www.huffycow.com/easythought/opercris3.html

I'm not the author. It was sent to my little online publication by a friend and it absolutely fascinated me. You may find the general idea cruel and unjust; however, you still might benefit from it professionally. Honest. --

Impressionist 3 October 2005

Done.

Impressionist 5 October 2005

Hi,

I just started to use a wiki format for my free sheet music site (Choral Public Domain Library). Would it make sense to add a link to these composer pages? They don't really have much bio, but the access to scores might be useful. Example: Jacob Buus

Considering the difficulty of finding music from the 15th and 16th centuries, especially for the second line of composers (i.e. not Palestrina and Josquin), I'd say absolutely yes; I think this is a great link. Thanks! Antandrus (talk) 15:15, 7 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Now that you're an Administrator (congrats! congrats!) - PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

This is, like, the second time in two days.

I was working rather hard on the article about Verdi, editing, re-editing, copying and pasting, making sure everything is top-notch, and all of a sudden I get this gorgeous (expletive deleted) message -

"Your IP address is 152.163.100.201. Please include this address, along with your username, in any queries you make."

- and I can't get in anymore! The irony is that the article now is ENTIRELY my own. This is VERY irritating. Vexing. Frustrating. Stupid. Downright (expletive deleted) disgraceful. Not to mention that I had some info in the buffer which I needed to paste in; not to mention that now I've lost the thread of the edit I was making and will have to spend sometime picking it up again.

Is there a list you could put me on, some, I don't know, elite table or array, that would include my name, my nickname, and my IP, with strict and severe instructions to the system NEVER to block me again. Like, EVER. No matter what I do. Matter of fact, make the system bump all other uses off and give me all the resources. Sheesh...

I happen to like editing and adding entries, and I have scads to contribute, and, like everyone else here, I do it for free, and I'm quite an expert in quite a few areas - doesn't that deserve something? Thunder and lightning...

Hopefully, affectionately, and irritably, all at the same time, Ricardo the Impressionist October 7, 2005

Hello.

Thank you for the quick response, and thanks for unblocking me. It's a great comfort knowing you can rely on someone.

About the Verdi page:

Another wikipedian who's an opera buff has made some suggestions to me regarding the intro, sections, etc, which I immediately made very good use of and am grateful to him for his time and effort.

He also noted, however, that a passage concerning Rigoletto contained (and still does) something that can be classified as a pretty strong POV. I promptly invited him to join me in my Great Verdi Conspiracy.

Here's my point.

No encyclopedia entry can be entirely free of bias. There's just no way it can happen. There's simply no "sticking to the barest facts," since facts themselves are in some degree the result of someone's interpretation.

That said, consider this an invitation.

Sadly, we're all of us caught in the middle of a pretty impressive cultural disaster. In view of which, the five opera greats - Verdi, Wagner, Puccini, Bizet, and Tchaikovsky - could use ... sorely need ... should be given ... all the help they can get. If it takes a little bit of a personal opinion tossed in here and there, so be it. Seriously. Towards the end of his career, Puccini said that (and I quote, from memory) - "The art of opera is finished. The audiences have lost their taste for that which is the foundation of music and are willing to tolerate works completely free of melody."

A new Renaissance is most certainly in order. Most music composed since World War Two (including the popular genres) is bureaucratic rather than artistic. The last good opera premiered in 1924. Operetta lasted a bit longer (Kalman peaked in 1931, with his "Violet of Montmartre," and it went downhill from there).

So, yes, by all means - let us be as neutral as we can when it comes to, say, Massenet. Or Copland. Or Dvorak. Who cares! But let us stubbornly promote the great Club of Five, anywhere and everywhere, as best we can, bending (and breaking, if necessary) rules that get in the way.

Sincerely, Impressionist October 8, 2005

LOL; my theory was that if anyone would even notice I had posted it, it'd be you. :-) I am fond of Xenakis, for his writings and theories about music as much as his music itself (what can I say: I'm a math nerd). I don't suppose you're up to the challenge of making that mess readable, now... But I won't tempt you, you procrastinator: by your own italicized admission you shouldn't have noticed it at all! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 22:49, 8 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Notice?? notice what?  ;-p Antandrus (talk) 22:59, 8 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi, Antandrus, I saw you're interested in (classical) music. Maybe you would like to talk about the possible creating of a Wikimusic? There are no real plans right now, but we would like your imput! Please add you comment at this page, and put your name on the list if you want to stay informed. If you would want to, you can add your email as well. In front of you reaction I thank you for your enthousiasm. If you know someone who might be interested, don't hesitate, and give him/her the link! ( http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/gebruiker:Effeietsanders/project:Wikimusic), even if they are not active on wikipedia. Spread the word!!! effeiets anders 13:51, 9 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Better in the sandbox than in articles :-) I wonder if the list I made here would be of any use for tracking this vandal? It just keeps on jumping around...I might write a letter to the ISP provider for this IP range. -- HappyCamper 03:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Is that really true? Several thousand vandalism edits? *HappyCamper shakes his head* - Well, if that is the case, I'm even more motivated to take a closer look at this and send off that letter. -- HappyCamper 03:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Imagine: 4 Wikipedians. Two violinists, a violist, and a cellist. We sit and play Eine Kleine Nachtmusik. Ah, imagine the multimedia improvement to Mozart! Or perhaps Bach's violin concerto in D minor for 2 violins? The third movement would be quite nice for the Wiki I think... -- HappyCamper 03:38, 12 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Mindspillage was apparently able to play an improvised piece for 4 violas on her own...see Image:Viola-walshimprov.ogg for details (found on the viola page). It even ends on a harmonic! It may be worthwhile to see if she can help us out. Perhaps we can do it this way: Wikipedian A plays one part, passes the file to Wikipedian B who puts everything together, et cetera. If there is enough interest for this, a Wikipedia:WikiProject GFDL Music might be fun! :-) -- HappyCamper 03:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your help! I couldn't find the correct license and was getting quite frustrated. Anyway, I'm having fun so far and am glad to be in good company. I look forward to collaborating in the future. -- L1AM 05:39, 12 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Hello, Jimbo Wales will be in San Diego to attend OOPSLA and has agreed to come by and visit with the San Diego wikipedians. If you are interested, you will find more info on my talk page. Johntex\ ^talk 00:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your support on my RfA, and for the kind words. Both are sincerely appreciated. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ t • @ 15:21, 15 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi Antandrus! Just wanted to thank you for supporting my RfA. I hope I will be able to live up to the confidence placed in me. -- Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:55, 19 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Hello, Antandrus; welcome back. I hope the concert went well, and that your new piece was well received. :-) -- RobertG ♬ talk 11:59, 19 October 2005 (UTC) reply

May I ask if your piece was composed in D-minor? -- HappyCamper 03:29, 20 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Hey there. I think Curps has an automated bot that blocks all acounts with the string "on wheels", so it saves the trouble of having to do this manually. Have you checked out WP:CVU? The other day, I found out I had one of those accounts too. Heh...who would have thought? -- HappyCamper 01:16, 23 October 2005 (UTC) reply

I know what you mean. I had a User:HappyCamper On Wheels! today too. Gave a nice warm and fuzzy feeling :-) Ah! I love the Wiki! I also discovered this IP address. There's someone editing behind it that does good work with WoW accounts. -- HappyCamper 01:27, 23 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi Antandrus. I would be delighted if you would vote here at my rfa. Its a tight race ;). Thank you. :) -- a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 00:17, 27 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your support. It really means a lot to me. :) -- a.n.o.n.y.m ^t 01:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your note and comments. Coming from you, they mean a lot to me, since you are one of those here whose work I most respect. Jeremy J. Shapiro 15:37, 27 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks, Baroque music looks much better now. I wondered if that had to do with the template! -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:46, 28 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Hi, you blocked 85.104.163.244 ( talk • contribs) for vandalism. Another editor who edits logged in on that IP number has asked me to unblock him. I'll unblock but I'll watch closely for further vandalism. -- Tony Sidaway ^Talk 22:26, 28 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for catching vandalism to my userpage. Fir e Fo x 17:44, 29 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for unblocking my IP. Collateral damage is always bad, isn't it! Thanks anyhow! --[[User:Fantastic Door| Fantastic Door ^Talk]] 22:50, 30 October 2005 (UTC) reply

I cannot get my signature to work unlike yours. How do I make mine look similar to yours? --[[User:Fantastic Door| Fantastic Door (talk)]] 22:55, 30 October 2005 (UTC) reply

about older violins with gut strings...my teacher, had a phd from Cal state university for violin performance told me this since my violin is a couple hundred years old.

Thank you SO much for your cleanup after the dreadful "203.153.231.50" vandal. I find the subtle vandalism even more contemptible than the overt vandalism, as it's harder to notice and can sometimes be taken at first glance as part of the article. The pollution of information is really, juvenile prank or not, a serious problem on Wikipedia. Fortunately through the participation of vigilant users like yourself it's kept in check somewhat. Many thanks on behalf of everyone who reads and edits Wikipedia. Rest assured that had I yet grasped the concept, I would be presenting you with some form of JPEG recognition!

Regards and Thanks,

Reason. 31 October 2005

Thanks again, Antandrus. The signature thing worked. I'll keep posting here! Keep posting on my talk page. -- Fantastic Door (talk) 17:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC) reply

Thruston 23:17, 3 November 2005 (UTC) reply

You're welcome; removing vandalism is peculiarly satisfying. Antandrus (talk) 01:28, 4 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Hello, Antandrus. Had you noticed that the Lutoslawski article is set for the main page on Sunday? It turns out that I probably won't be around at all to police and revert the inevitable vandalism - I'm sure the usual RC patrol will do the usual fine job, but if you will be on the Wiki can I leave you with an informal watching brief, please? I'm looking forward to seeing whether the article will have been improved by Sunday's edits when I look at it on Monday! Best wishes, RobertG ♬ talk 13:24, 4 November 2005 (UTC) reply

The point you make about him not being prominent in popular culture is exactly what I had in mind when it occurred to me to ask for your expert attention! Thanks for your message. Enjoy your weekend. -- RobertG ♬ talk 16:18, 4 November 2005 (UTC) reply

"Are you the creator of the Noleta wiki, by any chance? There seem to be no visitors so far, and I was unable to make a login."

Yes, I started making notes to myself before the Goleta City Council SOI meeting, and turned it into an open wiki at noletawiki.jot.com, thinking that I'd learn more about the issues if others commented. (Expecting that people would have strong opinions I didn't think an actual Wikipedia page was appropriate. Besides the jot.com site allows for calendar and forum content.) I wrote to Tom Schultz and one other News Press reporter about the site before the City Council meeting, but there has been no traffic to the site. It is setup with no passwords and "guest" privleges for everything, so I'm puzzled if you couldn't login... It seems the problem with these things isn't vandalism as expected, but getting participation.

I have created several doppelgangers - but was accidentally logged-in as the doppelganger, so had to add the edit summaries from this account.

What is the 'doppelganger' feature used for mainly, aside from preventing impersonators? If you know reply on my talk page -- Fantastic Door (talk) 13:37, 5 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Regarding User:Fantastic Door and the IP address in question, I have left a note for David Gerard on his talk page and have temporarily re-blocked the IP address for 24 hours. I've asked him to investigate, it's not clear what's going on, see my comments on his talk page. -- Curps 18:23, 5 November 2005 (UTC) reply

This will come as no surprise: [1], blocked indefinitely. -- Curps 19:44, 5 November 2005 (UTC) reply

Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm surprised at the speed with which I've been welcomed to the community; everyone here is so friendly. And I haven't even been here 24 hours! You guessed right, I am a fan of Shostakovich. I look forward to helping out with composer and performer bios on wikipedia. I noticed you have a Ph.D. in composition; I don't have any degrees, but I plan on majoring in music with a concentration in composition. I don't suppose you have any hints for me? I'm busy throwing my portfolio together so hopefully I can go someplace good, but I'm afraid what I have won't be good enough...

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Pierre Alamire, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

I'm contacting you in response to your removal of my edit on the Magnesium page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium). I am curious as to why someone with such a deep interest in music is watching pages about subjects like magnesium, as well as to why you removed my correct information in favor of false information. Magnesium does not, in fact, react spontaneously with water or oxygen (air). I removed this information on november 3rd and you reverted the incorrect data not 30 minutes later. I have roughly 3 feet of magnesium ribbon sitting on top of my bookshelf right now, and it has been there almost a week. It has yet to react with the surrounding air, and i even tested it in water with no results whatsoever. If you would like to come see it you are very much welcome to do so. I am a Chemical Engineering major at Virginia Commonwelth University, and I would appreciate it if you and Vsmith ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vsmith) would let me remove the false infor mation on this page. You can contact me at headmm@vcu.edu if you so choose.

Thank you very much in advance, Mike Head

Hi Mike,

I reverted your edit because you deleted an entire section of the article with no explanation, no discussion on the talk page, and especially, no edit summary. Deletions of this nature from articles are one of the commonest forms of vandalism on Wikipedia. If you believe the information in the article to be mistaken, you need to make your case before making a change to an article as dramatic as deletion of an entire section. And by the way, you did not add any correct information; you only deleted. This was the edit I reverted. [2]. Thanks, Antandrus (talk) 03:10, 8 November 2005 (UTC) reply

My appologies, I was unaware that i had deleted the entire Precautions section of the article. That was not my intended purpose. I only meant to remove one incorrect sentence and add a contridictory statement. I am new to this, so I did not realize what had happened. I appologize for attacking you about modding the entry.

~mike~

Hi Mike,

No problem at all. Welcome to Wikipedia; it's easy to make mistakes when you first start, and I appreciate you fixing a mistake in the article! Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 03:46, 8 November 2005 (UTC) reply