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Thanks for supporting my successful RfA, which closed at 63 supports and 1 opposed. I appreciate it and hope to do my best. I especially want to thank Shalom for the nomination, DGG for the encouragement, and Jokestress for welcoming me. Bearian 13:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
It was implemented after discussion with a member of Arbcom. -- Avi 19:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
You are incorrect, I believe. One person who initially asked the question has agreed to the status quo. The only other admin you have asked has no comment. And the editor who brought the issue to WP:CSN, which should not have happened, I might add, has not answered my point about m:Right to Vanish. As a word of advice, you have already demonstrated in the eyes of the community a tendency to disruption. You have the ability to be a gainful contributor, but I am afraid following vendettas is not the method to achieve that. Thank you. -- Avi 14:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for adding this to the Help desk page. I just wanted to note that it belongs on Wikipedia:Help desk/Header rather than the help desk page itself. I have moved it to that page, which is transcluded to the help desk. Leebo T/ C 03:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much for asking me to help out. I will do everything I can. Unfortunately, I agree that Cherem (genocide) should be included in the Cherem article. However, I'm not totally convinced that was your main issue.
I am deeply concerned that you feel a friend of yours is being slandered. That matters to me. People abuse the Wiki system to slander individuals from time to time and I deplore that. Wiki doesn't really have a serious legal process to defend people's reputations. They do the best they can, but things go wrong.
Additionally, there is so much ignorance of Judaism, Christianity (and even Islam) that people presume fundamentalist extremists pushing POVs, when often, these are in fact mainstream views, just not publicized outside faith communities.
Please alert me any time you feel an individuals reputation is being slandered and I will get involved in the discussion.
I am humbled and honoured that you should ask me for help. Shalom. Alastair Haines 02:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for your supporting vote on the Shneur Zalman Friedman deletion. Unfortunately it looks like the article is probably doomed by the WP:NOT#NEWS assertion anyway (keep 2-delet 5), but I appreciate the support just the same! -- S.dedalus 04:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 October 3#Chazara bish'ela → Yetzia bish'eila. Thank you, IZAK 10:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Your contributions history shows that you have been aggressively cross-posting. Although the Arbitration Committee has ruled that "The occasional light use of cross-posting to talk pages is part of Wikipedia's common practice." 1, such cross-posting should adhere to specific guidelines. In the past, aggressively worded cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that has resulted in blocks being issued. It is best not to game the system, and instead respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building, by ceasing to further crosspost, and instead allowing the process to reflect the opinions of editors that were already actively involved in the matter at hand. -- Avi 19:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The Chareidi article uses hassidic as an alternative. I am familiar with the term hassidic from Chaim Potok's The Chosen, which I read and enjoyed many years ago. Could you help me understand the difference between to the two words? Alastair Haines 00:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
You made this change here with the comment: becouse the main thing of this is a yeshiva not a kolel what do you mean by that? How does a Kollel get defined vs a Yeshivah? Furthermore, is BMG a kollel or not?-- Shmaltz 15:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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I will start here to collect notable information about this phenomena, please note that i am needing Izak's help in this since he has created many many articles on the subject of kiruv so i will wait for his OK in creating such an article.-- יודל 20:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
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One of the people who has criticized you said, "The word then is a temporal adverb. In almost every case where you use it, the word you're looking for is than."
He's quite right semantically, but this interests me. We can't expect other editors to be English teachers, but since I am one, I'm curious Yid. When you use these words, is it just pronounciation and spelling, or is it the meanings of the words that are difficult. (German has wenn/wann issues, that are similar.) Your English seems so good to me, that I'd have thought it was just spelling/pronounciation. But I'm happy to find out I'm wrong. ;) Alastair Haines 08:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks יצחק I appreciate your comment, and that you are honourable to say it where Yid (or Yids) hears it. I'm a strange kind of person, I like offering respect to people when they have trouble with others. I'm not being friendly because I assume Yid is right, or a Jew (or a Christian, there's no evidence of that). He asked for my help with herem, very politely. I didn't quite agree with him, and he changed his mind. That's the basis of our friendship. I'm just trying to reduce frustration in other cases. Helpful honest comments from both of you, thanks. :) Alastair Haines 15:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | ← | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 |
Thanks for supporting my successful RfA, which closed at 63 supports and 1 opposed. I appreciate it and hope to do my best. I especially want to thank Shalom for the nomination, DGG for the encouragement, and Jokestress for welcoming me. Bearian 13:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
It was implemented after discussion with a member of Arbcom. -- Avi 19:34, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
You are incorrect, I believe. One person who initially asked the question has agreed to the status quo. The only other admin you have asked has no comment. And the editor who brought the issue to WP:CSN, which should not have happened, I might add, has not answered my point about m:Right to Vanish. As a word of advice, you have already demonstrated in the eyes of the community a tendency to disruption. You have the ability to be a gainful contributor, but I am afraid following vendettas is not the method to achieve that. Thank you. -- Avi 14:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for adding this to the Help desk page. I just wanted to note that it belongs on Wikipedia:Help desk/Header rather than the help desk page itself. I have moved it to that page, which is transcluded to the help desk. Leebo T/ C 03:32, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much for asking me to help out. I will do everything I can. Unfortunately, I agree that Cherem (genocide) should be included in the Cherem article. However, I'm not totally convinced that was your main issue.
I am deeply concerned that you feel a friend of yours is being slandered. That matters to me. People abuse the Wiki system to slander individuals from time to time and I deplore that. Wiki doesn't really have a serious legal process to defend people's reputations. They do the best they can, but things go wrong.
Additionally, there is so much ignorance of Judaism, Christianity (and even Islam) that people presume fundamentalist extremists pushing POVs, when often, these are in fact mainstream views, just not publicized outside faith communities.
Please alert me any time you feel an individuals reputation is being slandered and I will get involved in the discussion.
I am humbled and honoured that you should ask me for help. Shalom. Alastair Haines 02:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Thanks for your supporting vote on the Shneur Zalman Friedman deletion. Unfortunately it looks like the article is probably doomed by the WP:NOT#NEWS assertion anyway (keep 2-delet 5), but I appreciate the support just the same! -- S.dedalus 04:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2007 October 3#Chazara bish'ela → Yetzia bish'eila. Thank you, IZAK 10:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Your contributions history shows that you have been aggressively cross-posting. Although the Arbitration Committee has ruled that "The occasional light use of cross-posting to talk pages is part of Wikipedia's common practice." 1, such cross-posting should adhere to specific guidelines. In the past, aggressively worded cross-posting has contributed towards an Arbitration Committee ruling of disruptive behavior that has resulted in blocks being issued. It is best not to game the system, and instead respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building, by ceasing to further crosspost, and instead allowing the process to reflect the opinions of editors that were already actively involved in the matter at hand. -- Avi 19:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The Chareidi article uses hassidic as an alternative. I am familiar with the term hassidic from Chaim Potok's The Chosen, which I read and enjoyed many years ago. Could you help me understand the difference between to the two words? Alastair Haines 00:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
You made this change here with the comment: becouse the main thing of this is a yeshiva not a kolel what do you mean by that? How does a Kollel get defined vs a Yeshivah? Furthermore, is BMG a kollel or not?-- Shmaltz 15:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Vayoel Moshe1.JPG. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI 12:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
I will start here to collect notable information about this phenomena, please note that i am needing Izak's help in this since he has created many many articles on the subject of kiruv so i will wait for his OK in creating such an article.-- יודל 20:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading Image:Jews Against Zionism book.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. βcommand 22:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Jews Against Zionism book.jpg. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the " my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI 19:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
One of the people who has criticized you said, "The word then is a temporal adverb. In almost every case where you use it, the word you're looking for is than."
He's quite right semantically, but this interests me. We can't expect other editors to be English teachers, but since I am one, I'm curious Yid. When you use these words, is it just pronounciation and spelling, or is it the meanings of the words that are difficult. (German has wenn/wann issues, that are similar.) Your English seems so good to me, that I'd have thought it was just spelling/pronounciation. But I'm happy to find out I'm wrong. ;) Alastair Haines 08:52, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks יצחק I appreciate your comment, and that you are honourable to say it where Yid (or Yids) hears it. I'm a strange kind of person, I like offering respect to people when they have trouble with others. I'm not being friendly because I assume Yid is right, or a Jew (or a Christian, there's no evidence of that). He asked for my help with herem, very politely. I didn't quite agree with him, and he changed his mind. That's the basis of our friendship. I'm just trying to reduce frustration in other cases. Helpful honest comments from both of you, thanks. :) Alastair Haines 15:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC)