I'm probably going to regret saying this, but I'm willing to pitch in at FAR, since you seem to have set yourself up with a pile of work. What's the best way for someone new to FAR to help out? Is there a checklist or a priority list? The more specific, the better -- I don't do well with vague instructions, but if you give me detailed requirements, I can be John Henry. JKBrooks85 ( talk) 10:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
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The Added Sauce Award | |
for adding lots of sources (sauces) to the Sydney Roosters and Lake Burley Griffin articles. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 04:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
PS: All things considered, 15% is pretty good for saves at FAR considering the radical shift in standards. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 04:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Anyway, is there a template for that award? If not, very creative! YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Hahaha - so you're Monkey, Sandy can be....sandy, who is Pigsy and who is Tripitaka then... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 05:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Is this your joke? I think the global warming cabal might execute me first. Kauffner ( talk) 11:02, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
You commented a while ago on the WP:MILHIST peer review of Military career of L. Ron Hubbard. [1] It has achieved good article status and is now being considered for featured article status; any input you might have would be very welcome. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Military career of L. Ron Hubbard/archive1. -- ChrisO ( talk) 00:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
— AustralianRupert ( talk) 01:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I've quickly created a useless stub on
1929 Tasmanian Floods that I'm about to expand, but the book ref ins't working.. Could you quickly check and see why?
Aaroncrick (
talk)
01:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I Fixed it sorry. Aaroncrick ( talk) 02:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
In Spinners seal historic Bangladesh win is says: Shakib, hailed by the former Australian spinner Kerry O' Keefe as the "best finger spinner in the world". Were you listening when Kerry said this? He said something along the lines of best left arm spinner that bends him arm 15 degrees. I can't remember if he said it directly but he was meaning Vettori was the best, but said Daniel doesn't bend him arm. Journos toying with words..... Aaroncrick ( talk) 22:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear ( bananabucket),
There has recently been considerable Chinese guerilla activity directed at the infobox for the article Sino-French War, aimed at replacing the conventional verdict 'French victory' with 'ceasefire'. Is there anything you can do to stop these terrorists from rewriting history without providing satisfactory argumentation for their views? I would certainly appreciate the latest such edit (see the discussion page for the article Sino-French War) being reverted.
The issue of victory and defeat in this particular war has been thrashed out ad nauseam. As one contributor has pointed out, all wars end in a ceasefire by definition. Given that we are required to make a shot at estimating the result of a conflict, the verdict 'French victory' has stood the test of time, and is accepted by all reputable encyclopedias and histories of the war. I could fudge the issue by using the formulation I used in my article Battle of Zhenhai, 'result and significance disputed', but that would just be a cowardly cop-out. In terms of what the war was fought about (see my last posting on the discussion page), France clearly won it, and we should say so.
Djwilms ( talk) 03:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi YM, a small favour please if you are willing. Can I get a checkuser for:
If you can, you might also look at this and this as well, which I suspect is the same editor trying to muddy the waters the bit.
Let me know if there is anything else you need. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 07:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear Admin,
Thanks for your input regarding the complaint by another user. I am an American and I did not move to the USA from any other country. Please assume good faith in my account. I am not a sock, and any admin can verify this fact. I do not know who Mr. V is. Please help me and please protect my account and interests on WP. This is my sincere request to you. Please also note that I am a new user and am unfamiliar with the WP culture. Please enlighten me with methodology and ways of communication, if you would like to, so that I can be a strong, happy, editor. Please do not block me. This is also a sincere request to you. Please assume good faith in me and please do not bite me. I am a newcomer.
Again, please note that I am an American and I did NOT move to the USA from any other country in the recent past. I do not understand why
User: Ravichandar84 is blindly accusing me. I live and work in the USA and am a proud American. I respect all the editors at WP and I expect the same from all editors. I request you to protect my account
User: Svr014 and interests on WP. Please tell [User: Ravichandar84] not to accuse newcomers as sockpuppets or meatpuppets. Please note the following pages which state some principles on WP. They are:
Again, please protect my account. Please do not block me for no reason. Please tell [User: Ravichandar84] not to accuse me. I do not know who Mr. Vyaghradhataki was. I am an American citizen and I am new to WP. The reason why I retired from WP is mainly to avoid blind accusation from Ravichandar84. Hope this explains my side of the story in a very professional manner. Have a nice day! Awaiting your help in this regard. Svr014 ( talk) 14:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey YellowMonkey, when you have a moment could you please clarify your reasons for blocking this user (with a message at his talkpage, or whatever)? His recent edits to Mao ZD were pretty POV-pushy (I didn't look at his recent edits to Sino-Tibetan War) and he is pretty hated at July 2009 Urumqi riots, but I wasn't sure if they were quite blockable yet, and as far as i can tell his sock puppeting was confined to a few days ago when he was blocked (if you have found other sockpuppets, then of course you can post them on his SPI page). I myself have no love of this user (he's insulted me several times and when he was blocked last time he started a pretty lame blog to rant about how much of an evil terrorist sympathizer I am), but I just wanted to make sure the block was done right. Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 02:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure (I think that's one of Roger's), but I'd say it's a general 'how to' guide to help our members who want to join in with reviewing a featured article candidate. However, if you've got a better idea please feel free to add it to the wishlist (and write it too if you like!). Thinking about it, something on what to expect during an FAC and the nuts-and-bolts of the FAC review process itself (ie how to nom, who does what, how to handle opposes etc) might be more useful to our members. EyeSerene talk 16:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello YM, agree with you about Perry, Could you also delete my userpage and then restore 1 revision? Thankyou, Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 08:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Have struck out content prior to delete (next step).
Haruspex101 (
talk)
10:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Have not been able to strike out material. Haruspex101 ( talk) 11:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC) I am a novice Wikipedia user. YellowMonkey is a highly experienced editor.
The content of the YellowMonkey post was a speculation that an internationally successful Australian author (22 published books and numerous awards) was posting some sort of vanity advertisement on a Wikipedia bio page without declaration. This was duly refuted by a declaration of identity of myself as the user posting this content in what I am learning will need to be a more Neutral-POV style as the bio of a living person.
{extract} Haruspex101 Arrives:
o Is not Roland Perry
o Has worked with Tim Burstall and Roland Perry on film development projects
o Is a novice Wikipedia editor. Has never added Wikipedia content before, and would welcome assistance with the technical aspects of doing so.
o Collated factual sourced material on Roland Perry and posted this on Wikipedia in July 2009 using journalistic style to bridge the sourced material and some opinion. Material is not contested by Roland Perry, even though it includes a good deal of sourced criticism of Roland Perry along with the overwhelming positive reviews of Roland Perry’s broad writing career which includes journalism and 22 published books on US politics, British espionage and history (WW1), along with a variety of biography, fiction as well as cricket history.
{extract ends}
YellowMonkey's speculation was false -- and the persistence of that speculative material continuing to be published on Wikipedia imputes that the reviews of Roland Perry's works were only from Playboy magazine -- when this was only one example extracted in an unrepresentative way by YellowMonkey from a list of over 150 references.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Roland_Perry&oldid=300578463
Further, the YellowMonkey content framed Playboy magazine in some kind of pejorative shadow when it is actually considered a premiere outlet for literary material for well over 50 years. See for instance this independent user comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:YellowMonkey&diff=300719223&oldid=300718420
Also strike out my own previous reply prior to delete (next step).
Haruspex101 (
talk)
10:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Have not been able to strike out material. Haruspex101 ( talk) 11:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Again, which third-party historian would read Penthouse for information about the US President?
YellowMonkey (
cricket calendar poll!)
paid editing=POV
02:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Off-topic comment: I don't know about Penthouse, but Playboy has published original writings of some all-time-greats. See for example this compilation : I read it years back and IIRC it contains no pictures. :-) Sorry for jumping in without even knowing the context but I saw YM's edit summary and had to comment Abecedare ( talk) 02:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah makes perfect sense. Anyway were you meaning "sure thing" for deleting my userpage and then restoring 1 revision? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 05:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
See also further suggestion and documentation that we take this material to Roland_Perry#Dispute_resolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Roland_Perry&diff=301707900&oldid=301526496
Haruspex101 ( talk) 15:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC) (novice user)
I'm probably going to regret saying this, but I'm willing to pitch in at FAR, since you seem to have set yourself up with a pile of work. What's the best way for someone new to FAR to help out? Is there a checklist or a priority list? The more specific, the better -- I don't do well with vague instructions, but if you give me detailed requirements, I can be John Henry. JKBrooks85 ( talk) 10:55, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
![]() |
The Added Sauce Award | |
for adding lots of sources (sauces) to the Sydney Roosters and Lake Burley Griffin articles. Cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 04:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC) |
PS: All things considered, 15% is pretty good for saves at FAR considering the radical shift in standards. Casliber ( talk · contribs) 04:50, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Anyway, is there a template for that award? If not, very creative! YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:39, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Hahaha - so you're Monkey, Sandy can be....sandy, who is Pigsy and who is Tripitaka then... Casliber ( talk · contribs) 05:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Is this your joke? I think the global warming cabal might execute me first. Kauffner ( talk) 11:02, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
You commented a while ago on the WP:MILHIST peer review of Military career of L. Ron Hubbard. [1] It has achieved good article status and is now being considered for featured article status; any input you might have would be very welcome. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Military career of L. Ron Hubbard/archive1. -- ChrisO ( talk) 00:53, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
— AustralianRupert ( talk) 01:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I've quickly created a useless stub on
1929 Tasmanian Floods that I'm about to expand, but the book ref ins't working.. Could you quickly check and see why?
Aaroncrick (
talk)
01:58, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
I Fixed it sorry. Aaroncrick ( talk) 02:00, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
In Spinners seal historic Bangladesh win is says: Shakib, hailed by the former Australian spinner Kerry O' Keefe as the "best finger spinner in the world". Were you listening when Kerry said this? He said something along the lines of best left arm spinner that bends him arm 15 degrees. I can't remember if he said it directly but he was meaning Vettori was the best, but said Daniel doesn't bend him arm. Journos toying with words..... Aaroncrick ( talk) 22:02, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear ( bananabucket),
There has recently been considerable Chinese guerilla activity directed at the infobox for the article Sino-French War, aimed at replacing the conventional verdict 'French victory' with 'ceasefire'. Is there anything you can do to stop these terrorists from rewriting history without providing satisfactory argumentation for their views? I would certainly appreciate the latest such edit (see the discussion page for the article Sino-French War) being reverted.
The issue of victory and defeat in this particular war has been thrashed out ad nauseam. As one contributor has pointed out, all wars end in a ceasefire by definition. Given that we are required to make a shot at estimating the result of a conflict, the verdict 'French victory' has stood the test of time, and is accepted by all reputable encyclopedias and histories of the war. I could fudge the issue by using the formulation I used in my article Battle of Zhenhai, 'result and significance disputed', but that would just be a cowardly cop-out. In terms of what the war was fought about (see my last posting on the discussion page), France clearly won it, and we should say so.
Djwilms ( talk) 03:51, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi YM, a small favour please if you are willing. Can I get a checkuser for:
If you can, you might also look at this and this as well, which I suspect is the same editor trying to muddy the waters the bit.
Let me know if there is anything else you need. Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 07:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Dear Admin,
Thanks for your input regarding the complaint by another user. I am an American and I did not move to the USA from any other country. Please assume good faith in my account. I am not a sock, and any admin can verify this fact. I do not know who Mr. V is. Please help me and please protect my account and interests on WP. This is my sincere request to you. Please also note that I am a new user and am unfamiliar with the WP culture. Please enlighten me with methodology and ways of communication, if you would like to, so that I can be a strong, happy, editor. Please do not block me. This is also a sincere request to you. Please assume good faith in me and please do not bite me. I am a newcomer.
Again, please note that I am an American and I did NOT move to the USA from any other country in the recent past. I do not understand why
User: Ravichandar84 is blindly accusing me. I live and work in the USA and am a proud American. I respect all the editors at WP and I expect the same from all editors. I request you to protect my account
User: Svr014 and interests on WP. Please tell [User: Ravichandar84] not to accuse newcomers as sockpuppets or meatpuppets. Please note the following pages which state some principles on WP. They are:
Again, please protect my account. Please do not block me for no reason. Please tell [User: Ravichandar84] not to accuse me. I do not know who Mr. Vyaghradhataki was. I am an American citizen and I am new to WP. The reason why I retired from WP is mainly to avoid blind accusation from Ravichandar84. Hope this explains my side of the story in a very professional manner. Have a nice day! Awaiting your help in this regard. Svr014 ( talk) 14:24, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Hey YellowMonkey, when you have a moment could you please clarify your reasons for blocking this user (with a message at his talkpage, or whatever)? His recent edits to Mao ZD were pretty POV-pushy (I didn't look at his recent edits to Sino-Tibetan War) and he is pretty hated at July 2009 Urumqi riots, but I wasn't sure if they were quite blockable yet, and as far as i can tell his sock puppeting was confined to a few days ago when he was blocked (if you have found other sockpuppets, then of course you can post them on his SPI page). I myself have no love of this user (he's insulted me several times and when he was blocked last time he started a pretty lame blog to rant about how much of an evil terrorist sympathizer I am), but I just wanted to make sure the block was done right. Thanks, rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 02:19, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure (I think that's one of Roger's), but I'd say it's a general 'how to' guide to help our members who want to join in with reviewing a featured article candidate. However, if you've got a better idea please feel free to add it to the wishlist (and write it too if you like!). Thinking about it, something on what to expect during an FAC and the nuts-and-bolts of the FAC review process itself (ie how to nom, who does what, how to handle opposes etc) might be more useful to our members. EyeSerene talk 16:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello YM, agree with you about Perry, Could you also delete my userpage and then restore 1 revision? Thankyou, Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 08:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Have struck out content prior to delete (next step).
Haruspex101 (
talk)
10:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Have not been able to strike out material. Haruspex101 ( talk) 11:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC) I am a novice Wikipedia user. YellowMonkey is a highly experienced editor.
The content of the YellowMonkey post was a speculation that an internationally successful Australian author (22 published books and numerous awards) was posting some sort of vanity advertisement on a Wikipedia bio page without declaration. This was duly refuted by a declaration of identity of myself as the user posting this content in what I am learning will need to be a more Neutral-POV style as the bio of a living person.
{extract} Haruspex101 Arrives:
o Is not Roland Perry
o Has worked with Tim Burstall and Roland Perry on film development projects
o Is a novice Wikipedia editor. Has never added Wikipedia content before, and would welcome assistance with the technical aspects of doing so.
o Collated factual sourced material on Roland Perry and posted this on Wikipedia in July 2009 using journalistic style to bridge the sourced material and some opinion. Material is not contested by Roland Perry, even though it includes a good deal of sourced criticism of Roland Perry along with the overwhelming positive reviews of Roland Perry’s broad writing career which includes journalism and 22 published books on US politics, British espionage and history (WW1), along with a variety of biography, fiction as well as cricket history.
{extract ends}
YellowMonkey's speculation was false -- and the persistence of that speculative material continuing to be published on Wikipedia imputes that the reviews of Roland Perry's works were only from Playboy magazine -- when this was only one example extracted in an unrepresentative way by YellowMonkey from a list of over 150 references.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Roland_Perry&oldid=300578463
Further, the YellowMonkey content framed Playboy magazine in some kind of pejorative shadow when it is actually considered a premiere outlet for literary material for well over 50 years. See for instance this independent user comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:YellowMonkey&diff=300719223&oldid=300718420
Also strike out my own previous reply prior to delete (next step).
Haruspex101 (
talk)
10:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Have not been able to strike out material. Haruspex101 ( talk) 11:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
Again, which third-party historian would read Penthouse for information about the US President?
YellowMonkey (
cricket calendar poll!)
paid editing=POV
02:20, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Off-topic comment: I don't know about Penthouse, but Playboy has published original writings of some all-time-greats. See for example this compilation : I read it years back and IIRC it contains no pictures. :-) Sorry for jumping in without even knowing the context but I saw YM's edit summary and had to comment Abecedare ( talk) 02:37, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
Yeah makes perfect sense. Anyway were you meaning "sure thing" for deleting my userpage and then restoring 1 revision? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 05:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
See also further suggestion and documentation that we take this material to Roland_Perry#Dispute_resolution:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Roland_Perry&diff=301707900&oldid=301526496
Haruspex101 ( talk) 15:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC) (novice user)