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Again, welcome! - UtherSRG 04:27, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Nice clarification changes
Thanks
Economia - Bishops can bend the rules, Perhaps his deacon was sick. Usually in such cases one of the priests will function as the deacon.
As to the other issue, Logic supports me. All our experiences are different. I belong to a very traditional Greek Orthodox Parish. The Abbot of the local monastery is my spiritual father. One of my brothers is a priest. I speak with my bishop on a regular basis as he resides in the monastery. The monastery is a satellite of the monastery at Patmos in Greece (Also a very traditional and ancient monastery). My other brother is a monk on the Agion Oros. My sister a Nun. So my sources of information are pretty legitimate. These practices without meaning should not be done, they are aberrations seen commonly in Non-Orthodox and modern Liberal Orthodox Churches. The blessing of icons and crosses is unheard of in my church for the very good reasons listed in the article. Phiddipus 19:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
A Very good question. I do not know about the blessing of chalices, my guess is probably not considering they are instantly purified the moment they are first used (do you imagine that holy water is somehow more effective than Christ’s Blood). In the case of the church and altar there are canons specifically prescribing the consecration of a church and its altar (there are not any for Icons or Crosses). You may be surprised to know that most churches, especially in the USA are not consecrated. The reason for this is simple: Once consecrated the land and building can only be used for Orthodox Church services. In Orthodox countries we can expect that if the church falls into disuse, it will never be sold for the purpose of anything but being a church. In the USA, as sometimes happens, a church goes bankrupt and ends up selling the property. The church may be torn down and something else built instead. This is strictly forbidden if the church is consecrated. Can a church building be used as a church without consecrating it? Yes, absolutely. In this case the priest uses an Antiminsia, which contains the relic of a Martyr. Now the question is: Is it a church even if not consecrated? Yes, it is by purpose. Some churches, for whatever reason never get consecrated. This is not unusual. But back to the issue of Icons and Crosses let me ask some simple questions: What is the difference between something blessed and something not blessed? Considering food, blessed food must be consumed or burned; unblessed food can go down the garbage disposal. Water that is blessed conveys grace and the power of God; unblessed water does not. In chasing away demons you could say Holy Water “works”, plain water doesn’t. But if I stand in front of an Icon or a Cross and venerate it, It “Works”. My prayer and veneration are still effectively transferred over to the Archetype. That is not to say that an Icon isn’t holy or blessed, but that simply by being what they are they are already sacred. Lets put it another way…If I held in my hand two apples, one blessed and one not, could you tell the difference? No, probably not. There is no way of recognizing the “Holy” apple with our earthly eyes. But if I hold up a cross or an Icon we have immediate recognition of something Holy and with special purpose. Phiddipus 22:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
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Just wanted to mention on the Duke University edit you had (here: [1]) that you fixed the spelling of a vandal! It's been corrected. Thanks. Duke EGR 93 11:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Seamus Heaney. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Demiurge 22:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I've requested a citation from a reliable source here, in accordance with verifiability policy. Also, please avoid any further edits such as this one, or you may find yourself blocked from editing. Thanks for your time. Luna Santin 00:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
If there's a valid point you're trying to make I don't see it. Please retract your votes and try to do something helpful for the project. Your current behavior looks like a clear attempt at disruption. - Taxman Talk 04:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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Help counter systemic bias by creating new articles on important women.
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How to edit a page,
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Again, welcome! - UtherSRG 04:27, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Nice clarification changes
Thanks
Economia - Bishops can bend the rules, Perhaps his deacon was sick. Usually in such cases one of the priests will function as the deacon.
As to the other issue, Logic supports me. All our experiences are different. I belong to a very traditional Greek Orthodox Parish. The Abbot of the local monastery is my spiritual father. One of my brothers is a priest. I speak with my bishop on a regular basis as he resides in the monastery. The monastery is a satellite of the monastery at Patmos in Greece (Also a very traditional and ancient monastery). My other brother is a monk on the Agion Oros. My sister a Nun. So my sources of information are pretty legitimate. These practices without meaning should not be done, they are aberrations seen commonly in Non-Orthodox and modern Liberal Orthodox Churches. The blessing of icons and crosses is unheard of in my church for the very good reasons listed in the article. Phiddipus 19:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
A Very good question. I do not know about the blessing of chalices, my guess is probably not considering they are instantly purified the moment they are first used (do you imagine that holy water is somehow more effective than Christ’s Blood). In the case of the church and altar there are canons specifically prescribing the consecration of a church and its altar (there are not any for Icons or Crosses). You may be surprised to know that most churches, especially in the USA are not consecrated. The reason for this is simple: Once consecrated the land and building can only be used for Orthodox Church services. In Orthodox countries we can expect that if the church falls into disuse, it will never be sold for the purpose of anything but being a church. In the USA, as sometimes happens, a church goes bankrupt and ends up selling the property. The church may be torn down and something else built instead. This is strictly forbidden if the church is consecrated. Can a church building be used as a church without consecrating it? Yes, absolutely. In this case the priest uses an Antiminsia, which contains the relic of a Martyr. Now the question is: Is it a church even if not consecrated? Yes, it is by purpose. Some churches, for whatever reason never get consecrated. This is not unusual. But back to the issue of Icons and Crosses let me ask some simple questions: What is the difference between something blessed and something not blessed? Considering food, blessed food must be consumed or burned; unblessed food can go down the garbage disposal. Water that is blessed conveys grace and the power of God; unblessed water does not. In chasing away demons you could say Holy Water “works”, plain water doesn’t. But if I stand in front of an Icon or a Cross and venerate it, It “Works”. My prayer and veneration are still effectively transferred over to the Archetype. That is not to say that an Icon isn’t holy or blessed, but that simply by being what they are they are already sacred. Lets put it another way…If I held in my hand two apples, one blessed and one not, could you tell the difference? No, probably not. There is no way of recognizing the “Holy” apple with our earthly eyes. But if I hold up a cross or an Icon we have immediate recognition of something Holy and with special purpose. Phiddipus 22:24, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Hi there! As a member of the
Mediation Cabal, I've taken care of mediation of the issues regarding
The Andy Griffith Show. I've already filled myself in the details, but before proceeding, I'd like everyone interested to offer me a (very) brief view of the core dipute before proceeding. Any suggestions and thoughts will be heeded. Regards and hugs,
Sh
a
uri
smile!
23:53, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi there! I've noticed that you've edited articles pertaining to the Eastern Orthodox Church. I wanted to extend an invitation to you to join the WikiProject dedicated to organizing and improving articles on the subject, which can be found at: WikiProject Eastern Orthodoxy. This WikiProject was begun because a need was perceived to raise the level of quality of articles on Wikipedia which deal with the Eastern Orthodox Church.
You can find information on the project page about the WikiProject, as well as how to join and how to indicate that you are a member of the project. Additionally, you may be interested in helping out with our collaboration of the month. I hope you'll consider joining and thank you for your contributions thus far! — A.S. Damick talk contribs 18:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to mention on the Duke University edit you had (here: [1]) that you fixed the spelling of a vandal! It's been corrected. Thanks. Duke EGR 93 11:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia, as you did to Seamus Heaney. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Demiurge 22:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I've requested a citation from a reliable source here, in accordance with verifiability policy. Also, please avoid any further edits such as this one, or you may find yourself blocked from editing. Thanks for your time. Luna Santin 00:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
If there's a valid point you're trying to make I don't see it. Please retract your votes and try to do something helpful for the project. Your current behavior looks like a clear attempt at disruption. - Taxman Talk 04:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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