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February 2020

Information icon Hello, I'm Flyer22 Frozen. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Dilla Massacre—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 03:58, 14 February 2020 (UTC) reply

March 2020

Information icon Hello, I'm Yamaguchi先生. Your recent edit(s) to the page Kismayo appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Yamaguchi先生 ( talk) 01:09, 21 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Badhan, Sanaag, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Yamaguchi先生 ( talk) 01:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Unblock Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Xisaabiye ( block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser ( log))


Request reason:

I have been blocked from contributing to Wikipedia for reasons I am yet to be told. I received no indication that I violated any Wikipedia rule. I would like to make a request for my account to be unblocked please. I am more than happy to comply with all guidelines and contribute positively, I genuinely do not know why I have been blocked as the reason given was "block evasion" and yet I was never blocked previously. Very thankful to BradV for restoring my talk page access. Xisaabiye ( talk) 21:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Decline reason:

Even when completely denying the alleged "block evasion", your unblock request needs to address the warnings above instead of claiming that there have been no problems with your edits. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 02:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This account was blocked indefinitely due to block evasion. The edits you made were consistent with patterns by a series of similar accounts. I would strongly suggest that this be cleared by a CheckUser administrator prior to any consideration of unblocking. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 ( talk) 18:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
This user submitted an appeal to ArbCom, but since this is not a checkuser block we referred it back to their talk page. Courtesy ping to Graham87 as the blocking administrator. – bradv 🍁 20:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Yamaguchi, I can assure you that I am not whoever you believe me to be. This is my first and only account on Wikipedia and I've never been blocked before. If you believe my edits violated Wikipedia rules please let me know and I will do my best to correct them and not make the same mistake again. I have received no warnings or any indication of wrongdoing on my part. Xisaabiye ( talk) 00:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply

FWIW you remind me a lot of Somali Historian2. Nationalism/editing to promote a point of view of a certain region is not looked upon kindly on Wikipedia. This will be my last comment here, unless another admin wants more info. Graham 87 01:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply

More to the point, you also remind me of Zaki199105. This'll be my last comment for real. Graham 87 02:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Xisaabiye ( block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser ( log))


Request reason:

I have been blocked from contributing to Wikipedia for reasons that remain unclear. Per the blocking admin's response above there was no evidence of block evasion, they state that I have reminded them of another editor, which I feel is not grounds for my account. I have never been blocked previously and have not willingly broken any Wikipedia rules. With that being said, to address points raised by ToBeFree above regarding previous warnings, in the case for Kismayo, I have added the figure based on calculation of area using Google Maps. Looking back I see why that can be viewed as subjective and that reliable sources must always be used when editing articles. With regards to Dilla Massacre article, I admit my edit was unhelpful. In my defence it was my first ever edit, and I made it due to lack of sources in the article, again I concede that appropriate discussion on the talk page would have been the way to approach it. Though I do stress that the block was unrelated to these two edits, I feel its important to highlight that I now accept they were done in ignorance of Wikipedia protocol. Going forward I promise to keep my edits in line with Wikipedia guidelines. Xisaabiye ( talk) 06:31, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Accept reason:

The whole situation is a mess.

Please note: For the purpose of dispute resolution when there is uncertainty whether a party is one user with sockpuppets or several users with similar editing habits they may be treated as one user with sockpuppets. This has happened, and it was not necessarily an incorrect block. However, zzuuzz has thankfully brought an end to the uncertainty in this case. Welcome back to Wikipedia. Please be more careful not to jump into conflicts in the future. As you have correctly noted, your edits, at very least at Dilla Massacre, have been disruptive. The dispute resolution policy contains helpful ideas for dealing with conflicts, including disengaging from them. The neutral point of view policy is extremely important. If you have comments about an article's neutrality, please click "Talk" above the article, then "New Section", and describe your concerns. You must do so instead of disruptively implementing changes that other editors are likely to oppose. As of today, you have not used any talk page; please make sure to discuss controversial changes in the future. While we do encourage you to be bold, your edits at Dilla Massacre have been too disruptive to be encouraged. The text added by you to Dilla Massacre could have been appropriate on the talk page of the article, but not in the article itself. Even if you feel very strongly about something, you need to wait for a discussion result. There is no time limit and no urgency, even if something upsets you strongly. The essay WP:DISCFAIL may be interesting.

The block is currently not needed to prevent disruption, and it was based on an understandable suspicion that turned out to be technically unlikely. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 15:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Yamaguchi先生 and Graham87: Please provide diffs for a checkuser check, then add {{ checkuser needed}} to this page. If this is not possible, please retract the "strong suggestion" for a checkuser. This is currently un-reviewable. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 18:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ ToBeFree: Well there's a strong similarity between this edit and this one, and that topic area is rife with sockpuppetry. Plus other hallmarks of returning blocked users.

Checkuser needed Graham 87 05:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ ToBeFree: Redoing ping. Graham 87 05:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
 Checkuser note: The CU returns negative (usual disclaimers apply), and specifically, the two users named above are in different countries to this user. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
In that case, the next admin who sees this request can do whatever they like with it, as far as I'm concerned ... feel free to unblock this user without consulting me first. Graham 87 11:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Graham87 and Zzuuzz: Thank you both very much! I hope the result is acceptable. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 15:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Al-Shabaab Suggestion

Hi Xisaabiye. I'm not going to revert you, because i don't want to get involved in an edit war, but i strongly recommend you revert yourself at Al-Shabaab. What you did was make a bold move, and have been reverted; the best action in that situation is to go to the talk page and explain why you think your edits are correct. Not, i repeat, not to just redo them. I fear you will be aiing directly for a block if you do not learn the community norms very quickly and start to act within them; happy days, Lindsay Hello 05:24, 1 July 2020 (UTC) reply

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February 2020

Information icon Hello, I'm Flyer22 Frozen. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Dilla Massacre—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Flyer22 Frozen ( talk) 03:58, 14 February 2020 (UTC) reply

March 2020

Information icon Hello, I'm Yamaguchi先生. Your recent edit(s) to the page Kismayo appear to have added incorrect information, so they have been removed for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Yamaguchi先生 ( talk) 01:09, 21 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Information icon Please do not add or change content, as you did at Badhan, Sanaag, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Yamaguchi先生 ( talk) 01:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC) reply

Unblock Request

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Xisaabiye ( block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser ( log))


Request reason:

I have been blocked from contributing to Wikipedia for reasons I am yet to be told. I received no indication that I violated any Wikipedia rule. I would like to make a request for my account to be unblocked please. I am more than happy to comply with all guidelines and contribute positively, I genuinely do not know why I have been blocked as the reason given was "block evasion" and yet I was never blocked previously. Very thankful to BradV for restoring my talk page access. Xisaabiye ( talk) 21:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Decline reason:

Even when completely denying the alleged "block evasion", your unblock request needs to address the warnings above instead of claiming that there have been no problems with your edits. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 02:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This account was blocked indefinitely due to block evasion. The edits you made were consistent with patterns by a series of similar accounts. I would strongly suggest that this be cleared by a CheckUser administrator prior to any consideration of unblocking. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 ( talk) 18:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply
This user submitted an appeal to ArbCom, but since this is not a checkuser block we referred it back to their talk page. Courtesy ping to Graham87 as the blocking administrator. – bradv 🍁 20:27, 2 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Hi Yamaguchi, I can assure you that I am not whoever you believe me to be. This is my first and only account on Wikipedia and I've never been blocked before. If you believe my edits violated Wikipedia rules please let me know and I will do my best to correct them and not make the same mistake again. I have received no warnings or any indication of wrongdoing on my part. Xisaabiye ( talk) 00:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply

FWIW you remind me a lot of Somali Historian2. Nationalism/editing to promote a point of view of a certain region is not looked upon kindly on Wikipedia. This will be my last comment here, unless another admin wants more info. Graham 87 01:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply

More to the point, you also remind me of Zaki199105. This'll be my last comment for real. Graham 87 02:08, 3 April 2020 (UTC) reply
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Xisaabiye ( block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser ( log))


Request reason:

I have been blocked from contributing to Wikipedia for reasons that remain unclear. Per the blocking admin's response above there was no evidence of block evasion, they state that I have reminded them of another editor, which I feel is not grounds for my account. I have never been blocked previously and have not willingly broken any Wikipedia rules. With that being said, to address points raised by ToBeFree above regarding previous warnings, in the case for Kismayo, I have added the figure based on calculation of area using Google Maps. Looking back I see why that can be viewed as subjective and that reliable sources must always be used when editing articles. With regards to Dilla Massacre article, I admit my edit was unhelpful. In my defence it was my first ever edit, and I made it due to lack of sources in the article, again I concede that appropriate discussion on the talk page would have been the way to approach it. Though I do stress that the block was unrelated to these two edits, I feel its important to highlight that I now accept they were done in ignorance of Wikipedia protocol. Going forward I promise to keep my edits in line with Wikipedia guidelines. Xisaabiye ( talk) 06:31, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Accept reason:

The whole situation is a mess.

Please note: For the purpose of dispute resolution when there is uncertainty whether a party is one user with sockpuppets or several users with similar editing habits they may be treated as one user with sockpuppets. This has happened, and it was not necessarily an incorrect block. However, zzuuzz has thankfully brought an end to the uncertainty in this case. Welcome back to Wikipedia. Please be more careful not to jump into conflicts in the future. As you have correctly noted, your edits, at very least at Dilla Massacre, have been disruptive. The dispute resolution policy contains helpful ideas for dealing with conflicts, including disengaging from them. The neutral point of view policy is extremely important. If you have comments about an article's neutrality, please click "Talk" above the article, then "New Section", and describe your concerns. You must do so instead of disruptively implementing changes that other editors are likely to oppose. As of today, you have not used any talk page; please make sure to discuss controversial changes in the future. While we do encourage you to be bold, your edits at Dilla Massacre have been too disruptive to be encouraged. The text added by you to Dilla Massacre could have been appropriate on the talk page of the article, but not in the article itself. Even if you feel very strongly about something, you need to wait for a discussion result. There is no time limit and no urgency, even if something upsets you strongly. The essay WP:DISCFAIL may be interesting.

The block is currently not needed to prevent disruption, and it was based on an understandable suspicion that turned out to be technically unlikely. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 15:42, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ Yamaguchi先生 and Graham87: Please provide diffs for a checkuser check, then add {{ checkuser needed}} to this page. If this is not possible, please retract the "strong suggestion" for a checkuser. This is currently un-reviewable. ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 18:55, 5 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ ToBeFree: Well there's a strong similarity between this edit and this one, and that topic area is rife with sockpuppetry. Plus other hallmarks of returning blocked users.

Checkuser needed Graham 87 05:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

@ ToBeFree: Redoing ping. Graham 87 05:14, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
 Checkuser note: The CU returns negative (usual disclaimers apply), and specifically, the two users named above are in different countries to this user. -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
In that case, the next admin who sees this request can do whatever they like with it, as far as I'm concerned ... feel free to unblock this user without consulting me first. Graham 87 11:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply
@ Graham87 and Zzuuzz: Thank you both very much! I hope the result is acceptable. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree ( talk) 15:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC) reply

Al-Shabaab Suggestion

Hi Xisaabiye. I'm not going to revert you, because i don't want to get involved in an edit war, but i strongly recommend you revert yourself at Al-Shabaab. What you did was make a bold move, and have been reverted; the best action in that situation is to go to the talk page and explain why you think your edits are correct. Not, i repeat, not to just redo them. I fear you will be aiing directly for a block if you do not learn the community norms very quickly and start to act within them; happy days, Lindsay Hello 05:24, 1 July 2020 (UTC) reply


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