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Hi Wugapodes. I just wanted to say that
your comment here is one of the most incisive analyses of the ArbCom/ADMINCOND/community DR dynamic I've ever read. Imbalances in power and social capital make sanctioning an administrator by community consensus outrageously difficult and opens the reporter up to further harassment
is right on the money and not something we acknowledge often enough. Probably because it's easily overlooked by those of us that have that social capital (i.e. arbs and sysops). Anyway I don't have much of substance to add, just thanks for taking the argue it out so cogently, and that I hope you'll consider putting your name forward in the next ArbCom elections! –
Joe (
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In practice, to have a voice in a Wikipedia discussion requires a combination of stubbornness and privilege.This led to the reproduction of those systems online and in the early WikiPedia which helped centralize social capital from the beginning; at its extreme, this was known as the meatball:GodKing WikiFounder role (which Wales largely eschewed). Because of our consensus-based decision-making model, structures are relatively inert. Changing anything requires a great deal of social capital which is hard to marshal and even harder to amass. I've thought about this in the context of RfC closures. At Wikipedia:Non-sysop closures, I am developing the idea of a "cline of stability" where greater deference is given to closes by elite editors---essentially the stability of a close is related to the closer's ability to marshal social capital against those who opposed the ultimate outcome. Where the division between sysop and non-sysop closures comes then is in the implicit threat of violence (c.f. meatball:NonViolence): as a sysop I not only have social capital but also the tools to silence dissent through technological means. Non-sysops can only manage dissent through capital, but sysops have both capital and violence. This distinction is hidden, and hiding it reproduces the power disparities between an aging admin corps (reflective of early power disparities) and relatively younger and diversifying editor corps. In other domains, understanding our "original sins" I believe will help us understand the factions that form in our discussions and how to effectively work across the divides: who are we not hearing from and why? It's why I think recruitment is such a dire need. I believe Levivich has been saying that one of our biggest existential threats is editor recruitment, and that perspective has drastically changed how I understand and frame the consequences of the phenomena described by FernandezAnyway, sorry for the long essay. It's a big problem: as a social scientist I find it exciting, and as a community member I fear the consequences of not finding a solution. Maybe I'll copy this to a subpage and turn it into an essay eventually. — Wug· a·po·des 21:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi I may be blocked but I would like a bit of help with this article please?
I am trying to make the article with the life peers according to these links:
I have done the Bishops, but the female Hereditary Peers and Law Lords are last.
Hope this helps. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, I know I am blocked, from the Blair Years I have not done yet.
I am doing it gradually.
Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:59, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
P.S. Postmaster General of the United Kingdom needs to be all in one!
Also I know that the BBC (Blair, Brown and Cameron) Years are the harder ones to do as they created more than the previous 3 PM's, I doing them in slow speed, as I like to take my time, but if you want to do them, fair play, the others under the Blair ones are not on the template but will be soon. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
It is mainly the dates they joined the House of Lords which is the one thing I need the help. Hope you understand. If you edit on the page, I will not object. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 18:38, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi how are you doing today? I hope you are well and safe, I might be finished in about 3 weeks time, I have advised a couple of editors on a few things. Stay Safe.
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Hi how are you doing? Hope you are well and safe, as the Foreign Secretary is now the same as the Home Secretary should all the holders have this on their templates? Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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are you planning to update WP:AAB to reflect your rfc close or would you prefer it be done by someone else? 78.28.55.108 ( talk) 06:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
I was wandering if you could do me this favor for me please? Could you add this to the following, Add #89CFF0 this to
Because these are for Lords who are alive but retired from the Lords not died.
Mr Hall of England ( talk) 21:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Date of creation | Name | Title | Territorial qualification | Date of retirement (if applicable) |
Date of extinction (if applicable) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 October 1991 | Nicolas Christopher Henry Browne-Wilkinson | Baron Browne-Wilkinson | of Camden in the London Borough of Camden | 1 March 2016 [1] | 25 July 2018 |
10 January 1992 | Michael John Mustill | Baron Mustill | of Pateley Bridge, North Yorkshire | 24 April 2015 | |
11 March 1992 | Gordon Slynn | Baron Slynn of Hadley | of Eggington, Bedfordshire | 7 April 2009 | |
1 October 1992 | Harry Kenneth Woolf [a] | Baron Woolf | of Barnes in the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames | ||
1 October 1993 | Anthony John Leslie Lloyd [b] | Baron Lloyd of Berwick | of Ludlay, East Sussex | 27 March 2015 [1] | |
11 January 1994 | Michael Patrick Nolan | Baron Nolan | of Brasted, Kent | 22 January 2007 | |
3 October 1994 | Donald James Nicholls [c] | Baron Nicholls of Birkenhead | of Stoke d'Abernon, Surrey | 3 April 2017 [1] | 25 September 2019 |
11 January 1995 | Johan van Zyl Steyn [b] | Baron Steyn | of Swafield, Norfolk | 28 November 2017 | |
21 February 1995 | Leonard Hubert Hoffmann [c] | Baron Hoffmann | of Chedworth, Gloucestershire | ||
1 October 1996 | James John Clyde | Baron Clyde | of Briglands in Perthshire and Kinross | 6 March 2009 | |
6 January 1997 | James Brian Edward Hutton [b] | Baron Hutton | of Bresagh, County Down | 23 April 2018 [1] | 14 July 2020 |
28 July 1997 | Mark Oliver Saville [d] | Baron Saville of Newdigate | of Newdigate, Surrey | ||
1 October 1998 | John Stewart Hobhouse | Baron Hobhouse of Woodborough | of Woodborough, Wiltshire | 15 March 2004 | |
1 October 1998 | Peter Julian Millett [b] | Baron Millett | of St. Marylebone in the City of Westminster | 4 May 2017 [1] | |
12 January 1999 | Nicholas Addison Phillips [e] | Baron Phillips of Worth Matravers | of Belsize Park in the London Borough of Camden |
Hope this helps. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 16:58, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Wugapodes! If you have a moment, please weigh in on If171cb. I'll be reaching out to Kipod as well. Cheers, -- ATDT ( talk) 19:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC) (Ori)
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I just noticed you closed the RFC about the Infobox as "rough consensus not to include", even though there were three people against including, and five in favor of including. How did you get that conclusion? -- GRuban ( talk) 02:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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How do I change the page I am editing? Don't have a move tab, and have done multiple edits. -- Pindiespace ( talk) 18:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi how are you doing? I hope you are well, I am ok, I have been to hospital and I am well now, it was about my diabetes, not Covid-19, I will be back to edit the Woman Peeresses, also how do I get back to editing? Stay Safe. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:43, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I commit to ignoring redirects and will not try to "fix" them from here going forward, so I hope you understand why I'm hesitant to unblock again---once bitten twice shy. That said, you do good work otherwise, and I would like to let you get back to that.So how about this: would you be willing to try a conditional unblock? That policy says that if we can agree on some wikt:bright-line rules for you to follow, I can unblock you, but if you break the rules we agreed on any administrator may block you (and likely for a longer time).So as a first suggestion, what would you think of a rule like
Mr Hall of England may not change links in articles. He may still add or remove links.? This would let you, for example, add links to articles, but if a link already exists you either have to leave it alone or remove it entirely---nothing in between. If it's really bad, you can ask someone to help you and they can make the decision. That should let you get back to editing while also having clear, objective rules about what you may and may not do. If you're willing to follow that rule (or something similar that you suggest) I would be willing to unblock you and let you get back to writing. What do you think? — Wug· a·po·des 22:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Good Morning, thanks for what you said, I will got with the flow with all the context. What I really want to do is change the colour of the Life Lords, which I recommended someone do, but they haven't done it yet. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 08:44, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Also my list of life peers idea with a different colour has not been done yet. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 20:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Mr Hall of England may not change links in articles. He may still add or remove links.? — Wug· a·po·des 22:19, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
When or if I come back I would like to do the following:
Your thoughts? Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Fair comments, I have left my draft in the talk pages for the first two at the moment. I think I will leave 2 for the time being. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 22:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Mr Hall of England may not change links in articles. He may still add or remove links.? — Wug· a·po·des 03:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Tell you what let me make the edits (as I have left them on the talk page for the Law Lords and '58-'79 and '79 and '90) then I want to do back. I do follow the T&C but let me finish this draft first. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:20, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes, also this is how the template for the Life Peers should be:
I would like your opinion on it, I also think that the Life Peers should be given a link to say if they are a son or daughter or husband and wife of a Peer and in remainder of a Hereditary Peerage. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 16:55, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Also use this as a reference to make sure the dates are 100%
http://www.peerages.info/index.htm http://www.peerages.info/peerages5.htm
Thanks for the Law Life Peerages edit. I haven't done the 1990s and 2000s though.
I have finished the Law Life Peers now, please start a page for the 1958-1979 please. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:57, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
So, do we think this is a person who can do a ton of fairly tedious but helpful content creation as long as they aren't allowed to edit article space directly due to their inability to ignore things that need to be fixed? Because that's kind of what it's looking like to me. —valereee ( talk) 20:11, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
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1) When using the script, the edit summary implies the redirect target was changed when only the categories where modified. For example,
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3) Implement a search bar, so it would only show matching checkboxes and presumably removes the headings.
4) Add a save button near the top (after the redirectText input area)
5) Have a button in the top right corner to hide/show the UI.
– BrandonXLF (t@lk) 23:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Wugapodes. I just wanted to say that
your comment here is one of the most incisive analyses of the ArbCom/ADMINCOND/community DR dynamic I've ever read. Imbalances in power and social capital make sanctioning an administrator by community consensus outrageously difficult and opens the reporter up to further harassment
is right on the money and not something we acknowledge often enough. Probably because it's easily overlooked by those of us that have that social capital (i.e. arbs and sysops). Anyway I don't have much of substance to add, just thanks for taking the argue it out so cogently, and that I hope you'll consider putting your name forward in the next ArbCom elections! –
Joe (
talk)
14:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
In practice, to have a voice in a Wikipedia discussion requires a combination of stubbornness and privilege.This led to the reproduction of those systems online and in the early WikiPedia which helped centralize social capital from the beginning; at its extreme, this was known as the meatball:GodKing WikiFounder role (which Wales largely eschewed). Because of our consensus-based decision-making model, structures are relatively inert. Changing anything requires a great deal of social capital which is hard to marshal and even harder to amass. I've thought about this in the context of RfC closures. At Wikipedia:Non-sysop closures, I am developing the idea of a "cline of stability" where greater deference is given to closes by elite editors---essentially the stability of a close is related to the closer's ability to marshal social capital against those who opposed the ultimate outcome. Where the division between sysop and non-sysop closures comes then is in the implicit threat of violence (c.f. meatball:NonViolence): as a sysop I not only have social capital but also the tools to silence dissent through technological means. Non-sysops can only manage dissent through capital, but sysops have both capital and violence. This distinction is hidden, and hiding it reproduces the power disparities between an aging admin corps (reflective of early power disparities) and relatively younger and diversifying editor corps. In other domains, understanding our "original sins" I believe will help us understand the factions that form in our discussions and how to effectively work across the divides: who are we not hearing from and why? It's why I think recruitment is such a dire need. I believe Levivich has been saying that one of our biggest existential threats is editor recruitment, and that perspective has drastically changed how I understand and frame the consequences of the phenomena described by FernandezAnyway, sorry for the long essay. It's a big problem: as a social scientist I find it exciting, and as a community member I fear the consequences of not finding a solution. Maybe I'll copy this to a subpage and turn it into an essay eventually. — Wug· a·po·des 21:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi I may be blocked but I would like a bit of help with this article please?
I am trying to make the article with the life peers according to these links:
I have done the Bishops, but the female Hereditary Peers and Law Lords are last.
Hope this helps. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, I know I am blocked, from the Blair Years I have not done yet.
I am doing it gradually.
Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:59, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
P.S. Postmaster General of the United Kingdom needs to be all in one!
Also I know that the BBC (Blair, Brown and Cameron) Years are the harder ones to do as they created more than the previous 3 PM's, I doing them in slow speed, as I like to take my time, but if you want to do them, fair play, the others under the Blair ones are not on the template but will be soon. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
It is mainly the dates they joined the House of Lords which is the one thing I need the help. Hope you understand. If you edit on the page, I will not object. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 18:38, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi how are you doing today? I hope you are well and safe, I might be finished in about 3 weeks time, I have advised a couple of editors on a few things. Stay Safe.
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23:03, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi how are you doing? Hope you are well and safe, as the Foreign Secretary is now the same as the Home Secretary should all the holders have this on their templates? Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:14, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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are you planning to update WP:AAB to reflect your rfc close or would you prefer it be done by someone else? 78.28.55.108 ( talk) 06:09, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
I was wandering if you could do me this favor for me please? Could you add this to the following, Add #89CFF0 this to
Because these are for Lords who are alive but retired from the Lords not died.
Mr Hall of England ( talk) 21:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Date of creation | Name | Title | Territorial qualification | Date of retirement (if applicable) |
Date of extinction (if applicable) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 October 1991 | Nicolas Christopher Henry Browne-Wilkinson | Baron Browne-Wilkinson | of Camden in the London Borough of Camden | 1 March 2016 [1] | 25 July 2018 |
10 January 1992 | Michael John Mustill | Baron Mustill | of Pateley Bridge, North Yorkshire | 24 April 2015 | |
11 March 1992 | Gordon Slynn | Baron Slynn of Hadley | of Eggington, Bedfordshire | 7 April 2009 | |
1 October 1992 | Harry Kenneth Woolf [a] | Baron Woolf | of Barnes in the London Borough of Richmond upon Thames | ||
1 October 1993 | Anthony John Leslie Lloyd [b] | Baron Lloyd of Berwick | of Ludlay, East Sussex | 27 March 2015 [1] | |
11 January 1994 | Michael Patrick Nolan | Baron Nolan | of Brasted, Kent | 22 January 2007 | |
3 October 1994 | Donald James Nicholls [c] | Baron Nicholls of Birkenhead | of Stoke d'Abernon, Surrey | 3 April 2017 [1] | 25 September 2019 |
11 January 1995 | Johan van Zyl Steyn [b] | Baron Steyn | of Swafield, Norfolk | 28 November 2017 | |
21 February 1995 | Leonard Hubert Hoffmann [c] | Baron Hoffmann | of Chedworth, Gloucestershire | ||
1 October 1996 | James John Clyde | Baron Clyde | of Briglands in Perthshire and Kinross | 6 March 2009 | |
6 January 1997 | James Brian Edward Hutton [b] | Baron Hutton | of Bresagh, County Down | 23 April 2018 [1] | 14 July 2020 |
28 July 1997 | Mark Oliver Saville [d] | Baron Saville of Newdigate | of Newdigate, Surrey | ||
1 October 1998 | John Stewart Hobhouse | Baron Hobhouse of Woodborough | of Woodborough, Wiltshire | 15 March 2004 | |
1 October 1998 | Peter Julian Millett [b] | Baron Millett | of St. Marylebone in the City of Westminster | 4 May 2017 [1] | |
12 January 1999 | Nicholas Addison Phillips [e] | Baron Phillips of Worth Matravers | of Belsize Park in the London Borough of Camden |
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I just noticed you closed the RFC about the Infobox as "rough consensus not to include", even though there were three people against including, and five in favor of including. How did you get that conclusion? -- GRuban ( talk) 02:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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How do I change the page I am editing? Don't have a move tab, and have done multiple edits. -- Pindiespace ( talk) 18:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi how are you doing? I hope you are well, I am ok, I have been to hospital and I am well now, it was about my diabetes, not Covid-19, I will be back to edit the Woman Peeresses, also how do I get back to editing? Stay Safe. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:43, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
I commit to ignoring redirects and will not try to "fix" them from here going forward, so I hope you understand why I'm hesitant to unblock again---once bitten twice shy. That said, you do good work otherwise, and I would like to let you get back to that.So how about this: would you be willing to try a conditional unblock? That policy says that if we can agree on some wikt:bright-line rules for you to follow, I can unblock you, but if you break the rules we agreed on any administrator may block you (and likely for a longer time).So as a first suggestion, what would you think of a rule like
Mr Hall of England may not change links in articles. He may still add or remove links.? This would let you, for example, add links to articles, but if a link already exists you either have to leave it alone or remove it entirely---nothing in between. If it's really bad, you can ask someone to help you and they can make the decision. That should let you get back to editing while also having clear, objective rules about what you may and may not do. If you're willing to follow that rule (or something similar that you suggest) I would be willing to unblock you and let you get back to writing. What do you think? — Wug· a·po·des 22:58, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Good Morning, thanks for what you said, I will got with the flow with all the context. What I really want to do is change the colour of the Life Lords, which I recommended someone do, but they haven't done it yet. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 08:44, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Also my list of life peers idea with a different colour has not been done yet. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 20:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Mr Hall of England may not change links in articles. He may still add or remove links.? — Wug· a·po·des 22:19, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
When or if I come back I would like to do the following:
Your thoughts? Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Fair comments, I have left my draft in the talk pages for the first two at the moment. I think I will leave 2 for the time being. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 22:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Mr Hall of England may not change links in articles. He may still add or remove links.? — Wug· a·po·des 03:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Tell you what let me make the edits (as I have left them on the talk page for the Law Lords and '58-'79 and '79 and '90) then I want to do back. I do follow the T&C but let me finish this draft first. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 17:20, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes, also this is how the template for the Life Peers should be:
I would like your opinion on it, I also think that the Life Peers should be given a link to say if they are a son or daughter or husband and wife of a Peer and in remainder of a Hereditary Peerage. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 16:55, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Also use this as a reference to make sure the dates are 100%
http://www.peerages.info/index.htm http://www.peerages.info/peerages5.htm
Thanks for the Law Life Peerages edit. I haven't done the 1990s and 2000s though.
I have finished the Law Life Peers now, please start a page for the 1958-1979 please. Mr Hall of England ( talk) 19:57, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
So, do we think this is a person who can do a ton of fairly tedious but helpful content creation as long as they aren't allowed to edit article space directly due to their inability to ignore things that need to be fixed? Because that's kind of what it's looking like to me. —valereee ( talk) 20:11, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
The script seems to work well and is very comprehensive with the list of categories it has (unlike Twinkle), but I do have suggestions.
1) When using the script, the edit summary implies the redirect target was changed when only the categories where modified. For example,
this edit has the summary Redirecting to
Roller coaster#Strata coaster (
♑)
When it should be something like Removing/adding categories (
♑)
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2) The script still runs of when viewing diffs (as you already know). This can be fixed by not running the script when the url contains &diff
in the query string.
3) Implement a search bar, so it would only show matching checkboxes and presumably removes the headings.
4) Add a save button near the top (after the redirectText input area)
5) Have a button in the top right corner to hide/show the UI.
– BrandonXLF (t@lk) 23:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
li
in the ul.redirectText
element, or you could always just append a link to the page title.–
BrandonXLF
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00:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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