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Hi. Just follow the link provided in the Article for Deletion notice box at the top of the page. No Guru 00:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Wright123 00:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Notable team (w.r.t. Team Russ)
Hi, I went through the Team Russ article once again, and then tried to verify the article. As has been said in the artcile's deletion discussion page, a team becomes notable if it has participated in a well-known league. So I tried to verify the team on this basis. Googling about team russ led to only one page that comes close to mentioning "Team Russ", but I could find no evidence that the Team Russ mentioned in the page is the same one we are debating about in wikipedia. Also, the wikipedia article provides no source which says the source of the information, ans thus it fails the test of verifiability. If you can provide at least one reputed source (an website, preferably), I will definitely reconsider my vote. Please contact me if you need further clarifications. -- Soumyasch 05:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- You may consider putting in a reference to the university brochure (if it is mentioned), and to the newspaper (with the date it was published on). Once you do that,I will change my vote to comment, with a request for others (from bristol) to verify. I will remove delete. All the best to you. --
Soumyasch 03:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- Good job. I have changed my comment.--
Soumyasch 05:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- I am sorry to see that the article got deleted. I would say that you wait for some more time till the team goes to the next major UK tournament. I am sure that would gove the team some good publicity. I suggest you keep a record of which mag publishes about the team. Thenafter recreate the article. All the best to you. -- Soumyasch 04:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Good job. I have changed my comment.--
Soumyasch 05:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Wright123. I've added an explanation for my reversion on the LOC discussion page. Pixel23 21:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. The article was a non-notable biography according to the criteria set out in WP:BIO. (aeropagitica) (talk) 23:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hello! If you "think that this guy will become big real soon" then you acknowledge that he is not yet notable. Please read WP:BIO and WP:Music with relation to the notability criteria for people and musicians/groups. They have to be notable in order to be encyclopedic. Expectation of future notability is not good enough for a Wikipedia article. (aeropagitica) (talk) 23:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hello, I made a page on Paolo Nutini, which you, promptly, removed. Would you do a small amount of research so that you can decide if Paolo Nutini is notable enough to merit a Wikipedia page. I think that he probably is.
Note that his single 'These Streets' was just made available free on iTunes UK (not sure about the iTunes USA). This means that a large number of people will know who he is (and want to contribute to his article of Wikipedia). He, also, has an album coming out next month. Thank you for taking the time to reconsider you action. Wright123 18:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Did you read WP:Music at all? Can you state that this chap has fulfilled one or more of the guidelines on the page and back it up with evidence? If you can, then place the evidence on the page so that I and all other editors/researchers can see it. Thinking that someone probably is is not the same as knowing, with knowledge based upon evidence. Has this chap had x hundred-thousand downloads on iTunes UK? Can you show this? This may be grounds for notability. Really, all I am asking are questions that every editor and author of an article should ask themselves:
- I know about x
- I know about x because of y
- There is no article about x on Wikipedia
- I will read the guidelines or policy relating to x and edit my article copy accordingly.
- I will write article z about x using y as evidence.
- Article z now satisfies the guidelines or policy and is an evidence-based record of a notable subject.
Just because a subject fails the criteria for notability now, it doesn't mean that this subject is banned for all time. Perhaps next month the album will go gold and the month after this chap will start a national or international tour, thus becoming notable. I don't delete out of spite, my actions as an administrator are governed by policy and guidelines-as-written. (aeropagitica) (talk) 19:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- If we are going to talk about guidelines, I think it would be better if you did not use the following message when you revert, what you think is, vandalism:
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked,. I saw this as rude and not needed. Making this page was not an experiment; I was trying to contribute to Wikipedia. Note this recommendation about cleaning up ‘vandalism’: Civility is one of the pillars of Wikipedia. Avoid being rude [1] I understand that you did not do it "out of spite" but I did see this as rude, especially as you did not talk to me about your action on my talk page.
- The fact that he has a song available for free download means that he is notable. You cannot get your song available free on such a store as iTunes, unless you are notable. Obviously, it would be nice to know how many downloads there has been but I don’t have this information (and probably cannot get this information). Also, as it is available for free download, it does not come up in their download chart. I could only presume that many people have downloaded it.
- As for your criteria for notability with regards to touring. He is doing a national UK tour and is has a concert in America (i.e. it could be said that he is doing an international tour).
- I looked at WP:Music, he fulfils the following requirements:
- Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in notable and verifiable sources. – As stated above (the exact dates are available on his website [2] and myspace page [3].
- Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. – He is very prominent in his hometown.
- I await your response. Thank you. Wright123 20:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, the deletion message is a standard template, {{ test1}} used by hundreds of editors on thousands of talk pages. I am civil when interacting with other Wikipedians, even those who do nothing other than vandalise the good works of others. If you have information that satisfies the criteria on WP:Music, please add it to the article page, now restored. Other people can then express their views on the subject, if they so desire. (aeropagitica) (talk) 20:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, You were right, Paolo Nutini has indeed become notable - He played Carnegie Hall earlier this month and is touring with the Rolling Stones! I have tidied up the article and added some more information and images :) Jud 03:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
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Welcome!
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Hi. Just follow the link provided in the Article for Deletion notice box at the top of the page. No Guru 00:08, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Wright123 00:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Notable team (w.r.t. Team Russ)
Hi, I went through the Team Russ article once again, and then tried to verify the article. As has been said in the artcile's deletion discussion page, a team becomes notable if it has participated in a well-known league. So I tried to verify the team on this basis. Googling about team russ led to only one page that comes close to mentioning "Team Russ", but I could find no evidence that the Team Russ mentioned in the page is the same one we are debating about in wikipedia. Also, the wikipedia article provides no source which says the source of the information, ans thus it fails the test of verifiability. If you can provide at least one reputed source (an website, preferably), I will definitely reconsider my vote. Please contact me if you need further clarifications. -- Soumyasch 05:25, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- You may consider putting in a reference to the university brochure (if it is mentioned), and to the newspaper (with the date it was published on). Once you do that,I will change my vote to comment, with a request for others (from bristol) to verify. I will remove delete. All the best to you. --
Soumyasch 03:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
- Good job. I have changed my comment.--
Soumyasch 05:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
- I am sorry to see that the article got deleted. I would say that you wait for some more time till the team goes to the next major UK tournament. I am sure that would gove the team some good publicity. I suggest you keep a record of which mag publishes about the team. Thenafter recreate the article. All the best to you. -- Soumyasch 04:46, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Good job. I have changed my comment.--
Soumyasch 05:47, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Wright123. I've added an explanation for my reversion on the LOC discussion page. Pixel23 21:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. The article was a non-notable biography according to the criteria set out in WP:BIO. (aeropagitica) (talk) 23:56, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hello! If you "think that this guy will become big real soon" then you acknowledge that he is not yet notable. Please read WP:BIO and WP:Music with relation to the notability criteria for people and musicians/groups. They have to be notable in order to be encyclopedic. Expectation of future notability is not good enough for a Wikipedia article. (aeropagitica) (talk) 23:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hello, I made a page on Paolo Nutini, which you, promptly, removed. Would you do a small amount of research so that you can decide if Paolo Nutini is notable enough to merit a Wikipedia page. I think that he probably is.
Note that his single 'These Streets' was just made available free on iTunes UK (not sure about the iTunes USA). This means that a large number of people will know who he is (and want to contribute to his article of Wikipedia). He, also, has an album coming out next month. Thank you for taking the time to reconsider you action. Wright123 18:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Did you read WP:Music at all? Can you state that this chap has fulfilled one or more of the guidelines on the page and back it up with evidence? If you can, then place the evidence on the page so that I and all other editors/researchers can see it. Thinking that someone probably is is not the same as knowing, with knowledge based upon evidence. Has this chap had x hundred-thousand downloads on iTunes UK? Can you show this? This may be grounds for notability. Really, all I am asking are questions that every editor and author of an article should ask themselves:
- I know about x
- I know about x because of y
- There is no article about x on Wikipedia
- I will read the guidelines or policy relating to x and edit my article copy accordingly.
- I will write article z about x using y as evidence.
- Article z now satisfies the guidelines or policy and is an evidence-based record of a notable subject.
Just because a subject fails the criteria for notability now, it doesn't mean that this subject is banned for all time. Perhaps next month the album will go gold and the month after this chap will start a national or international tour, thus becoming notable. I don't delete out of spite, my actions as an administrator are governed by policy and guidelines-as-written. (aeropagitica) (talk) 19:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- If we are going to talk about guidelines, I think it would be better if you did not use the following message when you revert, what you think is, vandalism:
Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked,. I saw this as rude and not needed. Making this page was not an experiment; I was trying to contribute to Wikipedia. Note this recommendation about cleaning up ‘vandalism’: Civility is one of the pillars of Wikipedia. Avoid being rude [1] I understand that you did not do it "out of spite" but I did see this as rude, especially as you did not talk to me about your action on my talk page.
- The fact that he has a song available for free download means that he is notable. You cannot get your song available free on such a store as iTunes, unless you are notable. Obviously, it would be nice to know how many downloads there has been but I don’t have this information (and probably cannot get this information). Also, as it is available for free download, it does not come up in their download chart. I could only presume that many people have downloaded it.
- As for your criteria for notability with regards to touring. He is doing a national UK tour and is has a concert in America (i.e. it could be said that he is doing an international tour).
- I looked at WP:Music, he fulfils the following requirements:
- Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in notable and verifiable sources. – As stated above (the exact dates are available on his website [2] and myspace page [3].
- Has become the most prominent representative of a notable style or the local scene of a city (or both, as in British hip hop); note that the subject must still meet all ordinary Wikipedia standards, including verifiability. – He is very prominent in his hometown.
- I await your response. Thank you. Wright123 20:06, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
OK, the deletion message is a standard template, {{ test1}} used by hundreds of editors on thousands of talk pages. I am civil when interacting with other Wikipedians, even those who do nothing other than vandalise the good works of others. If you have information that satisfies the criteria on WP:Music, please add it to the article page, now restored. Other people can then express their views on the subject, if they so desire. (aeropagitica) (talk) 20:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, You were right, Paolo Nutini has indeed become notable - He played Carnegie Hall earlier this month and is touring with the Rolling Stones! I have tidied up the article and added some more information and images :) Jud 03:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
You appear to be eligible to vote in the current
Arbitration Committee election. The
Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia
arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose
site bans,
topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The
arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to
review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on
the voting page. For the Election committee,
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