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To be clear, the issue with the "United Kingdom" section at Talk:List of sovereign states is that it was not actually aimed at any change to the "United Kingdom" line.
WP:POINT is when people "try to discredit the rule or interpretation thereof by, in [their] view, applying it consistently". The important note you referred me to notes that "[a]s a rule, editors engaging in "POINTy" behavior are making edits with which they do not actually agree, for the deliberate purpose of drawing attention and provoking opposition in the hopes of making other editors see their "point"."
Those quotes do not describe the IP's behaviour when they opened the "Czechia" section, or when they participated in it. While we might not agree with the point they were making (and they may have broken other rules like WP:CANVASS), they were merely making a point there, not disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate it.
But the quotes precisely describe the IP's behaviour when they opened the "United Kingdom" section. They were proposing an edit that they did not want to a separate entry in the list in attempt to illustrate a point about common usage in the list, hoping that we would oppose their edit and hence accept their point about Czechia.
I hope this explains the difference in reaction between these two sections. Kahastok talk 18:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Just checking to see whether you're still in the mood for some template writing over at List of sovereign states and dependent territories by continent as concluded at now-closed discussion at Talk:List of sovereign states and dependent territories by continent#Merges needed. I'd give it a go myself, but haven't any experience at writing templates. Klbrain ( talk) 22:23, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I have corrected the italic and quotation mark changes you made with this edit. (I also corrected other usages of italics and quotation marks in a few document titles.) Please see WP:MOS, in particular MOS:ITAL#Words as words and MOS:QUOTE. The only time we would use both italics and quotation marks would be e.g. foreign words within a quotation. Jeh ( talk) 04:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
There are only six rebel groups and polities (along with some factions of those groups) that assert to be independent states that are not listed on the list of states with limited recognition page. They are FLEC which asserts itself to be the Republic of Cabindia, the OPM which asserts itself to be the Republic of West Papua, the ADF which asserts itself to be the military of the Republic of Ambazonia, the Donetsk People's Republic, the Luhansk People's Republic, and ISIS. There is in fact an Ambazonian government in exile that the ADF subordinates itself to. The DPR, LPR, and ISIS each clearly control territory, Ambazonia and the OPM each control rural areas and occasionally occupy towns and villages, the Angolan government suppress information on the Cabinda War to the point where information on FLEC is practically impossible to find. However, each of these six entities each claim to be states and attempt to assert their authority as such in the area they claim with varying degrees of effectiveness. They are clearly not micro-states, since they actively attempt to control their territory through force, but they still claim to be states. As such i think the appropriate place for them to be is the Unrecognized states category, since they each clearly claim to be states but none are recognized as such by any authority. XavierGreen ( talk) 15:49, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thank for having redirected me to WT:Naming conventions (Macedonia)/2019 RFC. Very appreciated. I read it and still don't get the process though. Can you help? I created a section there to ask for help. Thanks mate.-- APG1984 ( talk) 12:04, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Wiz9999 and thanks for helping sorting out the various steps of drafting the RfC. Just wanted to let you know that I'm back just in time to start closing the sections. I do need some help though, since I'm not sure what to do when the answer is not clearly "support" or "oppose", so any advice is welcome! -- Argean ( talk) 15:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
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Why did you remove the table ( List of states with limited recognition), what's wrong with it? It's just a summary-- Warairarepano&Guaicaipuro ( talk) 16:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53764943 they have pledged allegiance to IS and are generally considered part of Islamic State — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.107.172.172 ( talk) 01:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
This edit is puzzling. You correctly say "criteria" the plural of "criterion", but then you insist on changing the verb form that is appropriate for a plural noun to one that is appropriate for a singular noun. Where I wrote "The criteria mean that a polity must claim sovereignty", you changed it to say "The criteria means that a polity must claim sovereignty". That makes no sense. Michael Hardy ( talk) 17:10, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
ummmm excuse me, why did you reverse my edit on the asian countries? it was perfectly fine and no one had problem. i tried to write question on talk page nobody answer. please undo your edit. thanks :) Samar al-hejazi ( talk) 20:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Wiz9999. Since it is surrounded by two arrows, which indicate the list's direction, I have changed the heading UN member states and General Assembly observer states → UN member states and GA observer states to avoid dividing it into two lines. It seems clearer now, I believe. Do you think it is reasonable? Thank you in advance. Regards, -- 89.66.254.10 ( talk) 00:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
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To be clear, the issue with the "United Kingdom" section at Talk:List of sovereign states is that it was not actually aimed at any change to the "United Kingdom" line.
WP:POINT is when people "try to discredit the rule or interpretation thereof by, in [their] view, applying it consistently". The important note you referred me to notes that "[a]s a rule, editors engaging in "POINTy" behavior are making edits with which they do not actually agree, for the deliberate purpose of drawing attention and provoking opposition in the hopes of making other editors see their "point"."
Those quotes do not describe the IP's behaviour when they opened the "Czechia" section, or when they participated in it. While we might not agree with the point they were making (and they may have broken other rules like WP:CANVASS), they were merely making a point there, not disrupting Wikipedia to illustrate it.
But the quotes precisely describe the IP's behaviour when they opened the "United Kingdom" section. They were proposing an edit that they did not want to a separate entry in the list in attempt to illustrate a point about common usage in the list, hoping that we would oppose their edit and hence accept their point about Czechia.
I hope this explains the difference in reaction between these two sections. Kahastok talk 18:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
Just checking to see whether you're still in the mood for some template writing over at List of sovereign states and dependent territories by continent as concluded at now-closed discussion at Talk:List of sovereign states and dependent territories by continent#Merges needed. I'd give it a go myself, but haven't any experience at writing templates. Klbrain ( talk) 22:23, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I have corrected the italic and quotation mark changes you made with this edit. (I also corrected other usages of italics and quotation marks in a few document titles.) Please see WP:MOS, in particular MOS:ITAL#Words as words and MOS:QUOTE. The only time we would use both italics and quotation marks would be e.g. foreign words within a quotation. Jeh ( talk) 04:23, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
There are only six rebel groups and polities (along with some factions of those groups) that assert to be independent states that are not listed on the list of states with limited recognition page. They are FLEC which asserts itself to be the Republic of Cabindia, the OPM which asserts itself to be the Republic of West Papua, the ADF which asserts itself to be the military of the Republic of Ambazonia, the Donetsk People's Republic, the Luhansk People's Republic, and ISIS. There is in fact an Ambazonian government in exile that the ADF subordinates itself to. The DPR, LPR, and ISIS each clearly control territory, Ambazonia and the OPM each control rural areas and occasionally occupy towns and villages, the Angolan government suppress information on the Cabinda War to the point where information on FLEC is practically impossible to find. However, each of these six entities each claim to be states and attempt to assert their authority as such in the area they claim with varying degrees of effectiveness. They are clearly not micro-states, since they actively attempt to control their territory through force, but they still claim to be states. As such i think the appropriate place for them to be is the Unrecognized states category, since they each clearly claim to be states but none are recognized as such by any authority. XavierGreen ( talk) 15:49, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
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Thank for having redirected me to WT:Naming conventions (Macedonia)/2019 RFC. Very appreciated. I read it and still don't get the process though. Can you help? I created a section there to ask for help. Thanks mate.-- APG1984 ( talk) 12:04, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Wiz9999 and thanks for helping sorting out the various steps of drafting the RfC. Just wanted to let you know that I'm back just in time to start closing the sections. I do need some help though, since I'm not sure what to do when the answer is not clearly "support" or "oppose", so any advice is welcome! -- Argean ( talk) 15:57, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Hello Wiz9999. I'm a London-based journalist working for The Verge. I'm interested in talking to you about your work updating the article page for the UK's Meaningful Vote. It looks like difficult work and I thought it might be a fun story to talk about. If you're interested could you please email me at james.vincent@theverge.com and I can share more information? Apologies if this is the wrong way to contact you but I am not a regular Wikipedia user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Apricity ( talk • contribs) 08:45, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Wiz9999, I have raised a few issues in regard to the article Dependent territory in its talk page. You are welcome to comment on these issues, hopefully, we could gather a wider view from the community so a consensus could be reached. Xindeho ( talk) 12:52, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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Why did you remove the table ( List of states with limited recognition), what's wrong with it? It's just a summary-- Warairarepano&Guaicaipuro ( talk) 16:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-53764943 they have pledged allegiance to IS and are generally considered part of Islamic State — Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.107.172.172 ( talk) 01:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
This edit is puzzling. You correctly say "criteria" the plural of "criterion", but then you insist on changing the verb form that is appropriate for a plural noun to one that is appropriate for a singular noun. Where I wrote "The criteria mean that a polity must claim sovereignty", you changed it to say "The criteria means that a polity must claim sovereignty". That makes no sense. Michael Hardy ( talk) 17:10, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
ummmm excuse me, why did you reverse my edit on the asian countries? it was perfectly fine and no one had problem. i tried to write question on talk page nobody answer. please undo your edit. thanks :) Samar al-hejazi ( talk) 20:16, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Wiz9999. Since it is surrounded by two arrows, which indicate the list's direction, I have changed the heading UN member states and General Assembly observer states → UN member states and GA observer states to avoid dividing it into two lines. It seems clearer now, I believe. Do you think it is reasonable? Thank you in advance. Regards, -- 89.66.254.10 ( talk) 00:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
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