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Further to our off-wiki e-mail exchange, I have investigated the apparent existence of two articles with the same name. Even though a search shows two hits, they are both to the same article - I even checked the edit histories to make sure. I don't understand why it shows two hits - it may be something to so with Wikipedia's servers being a little out of synch with each other. I will investigate further. – ukexpat ( talk) 16:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Nigel, you have done a really great job. I will check details to see if all the connections to refs are correct. I am sure they are. In relation to the request for images, I don't think that a picture of him exists. There may be a picture of the Prince de Neufchatel, but I do have a nice vessel registration certifcate which has a nice large Eagle at the top (US Navy) copied for the UK National Archies (copyright?). Also the extract from the ships log printed in the Baltimore Patriot might be a nice addition of colour. hat do w do next? William Wfm495 ( talk) 20:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
That is really good thanks. I am having a bit of a rest as I have been researching this quite intensively over the last few days. Wfm495 ( talk) 22:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel Wfm495 ( talk) 10:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I will take a crack at adding headings as you suggest. I will admit that the length of the quotation has been bothering me a little but I am not sure how we could cut it down without losing valuable stuff. Let me do the heading first and then we can see where we are. – ukexpat ( talk) 21:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Brilliant, thanks Nigel, Wfm495 ( talk) 22:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Excellent Nigel. Essentially the same text appears in ref 6 anyway so nothing is lost. Thanks again,
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Will, yes I did see a lot of Google hits for this guy. Certainly the time frame fits for him to be the son and he certainly seems to be notable. I guess it would need a disambiguating title such as John Ordronaux (doctor). I suggest that a user subpage may be the best place to write the article first - User:Wfm495/John Ordronaux (doctor) probably - where you can work on it without fear of deletion. Let me know if you need help setting up that subpage. – ukexpat ( talk) 19:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Wiki ref search looks very useful for Dr Ordronaux, thanks Wfm495 ( talk) 22:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
On 18 and 19 February 2009 I researched the outline of this article on the basis of twenty four primary source references. I have now asked ukxpat to link up the refs in Wiki fashion and generally look over the article prior to full publication on Wiki. Wfm495 ( talk) 16:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel (ukexpat) for look over/copy edit - good work. Wfm495 ( talk) 19:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel! Wfm495 ( talk) 09:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I have seen what you have done and have accepted it. - thanks. I have read Wiki policy on original research. Will Wfm495 ( talk) 15:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, check out the talk page. The article has been re-assessed as B class -- great job! – ukexpat ( talk) 21:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Amazing - couldn't have done it without your help!! Wfm495 ( talk) 21:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, thought you may be interested in the above article that I came across while patrolling the Help Desk. – ukexpat ( talk) 04:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, I think I have all the references correct. Please review. I also slightly reworded a couple of sections and removed the final sentence, as I think it was original research. – ukexpat ( talk) 17:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Nigel - Good work thanks. I think it is ready for open publication - would you please action? Thanks again Wfm495 ( talk) 17:53, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Nigel, Thanks very much for the nomination. I don' understand about the tag, or not, for the sub page. Do what you think appropriate. Have another look at my user page. I have redone it. We may be under-rating Dr JO because he was actually a lawyer as well, in fact he was a Prof of medical jurisprudence before he was called up in the Civil War to be a surgeon. How can we get an expert (from the law portal?) on the history of medical jurisprudence to expand the legal/medical aspect of this amazing man's story? Fo my ext project I would like to write about Dr David Bannerman who was a relative of mine and a very famous ornithologist and wrote a huge number of bird handbooks for the BM Nat Hist. But I enjoy working with you and perhaps we can think of another military hist article to improve/write together. I would like to keep in touch with you. Wfm495 ( talk) 21:14, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for tweaking. Where have the numbers gone? I apologise for removing your hook. I felt it would cause a dichotomy of choice for the judge, and as it is principally my article, I felt I should write the hook? Wfm495 ( talk) 16:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks, Nigel Wfm495 ( talk) 16:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello there. I'm finding all this very interesting as I am a descendant of John Ordronaux. I'm finding more and more information about him on the Web. I'm totally new to Wikipedia and don't even know if I can write this here, but could see no other way to communicate. I wanted to thank all of you for the work you've been doing on Captain Ordronaux, my great-great-great-great grandfather, and his son, John Ordronaux. Iwlear ( talk) 20:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Just a quick caveat on this one. Referencing from your own experience and knowledge, and from an unpublished autobiography, will be a problem, because of verification issues. Happy to help you figure out what can and cannot be done. – ukexpat ( talk) 21:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Point taken. I will consult you before I start. In fact there is much more published about him that I can quote and anyway I cannot find his autobio at present!! The intro of Dr JO looks really good now. goodnight! Having an early night tonite! Wfm495 ( talk) 22:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
It can take several days for Google's web crawlers to catch up with new pages, so there is not much we can do there except wait. As for the Wikipedia search engine, I will ask at the Technical section of the Village Pump. – ukexpat ( talk) 22:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel. Wfm495 ( talk) 10:26, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, it's not a rating, it's just an informational tag indicating that few other articles link to it. It has been applied by a bot (an automatic programme running on WP) and frankly the indiscriminate application of tags like this by bots is pretty annoying. I will see if there are any other articles where we can add links to this one. – ukexpat ( talk) 15:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't really see how he merits mentioning in the civil war, or any of the other pages mentioned. It seems to be violating WP:UNDUE Soxwon ( talk) 21:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I have only two weeks experience of Wiki so please don't judge me too harshly. When a more extensive article is produced about the Civil War there would clearly be a place for the signifcance of medis as there is in the history of the Crimea or war. I have accepted that since it is a very short article, that mentioning a single dr is not appropriate and i have apologised. But I don't think that there is a need for you to comment negatively about (and undo) everything that I do, especiailly as I am trying to implement Wiki policy. Wfm495 ( talk) 22:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thx Victuallers ( talk) 19:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Will
How's things? Just wondering whether you have any new projects in the pipeline that we can work on? – ukexpat ( talk) 15:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I am trying to find the ancestors of John Ordronaux, who is said to be born on the 16 of December 1778 at Nantes, Brittany, France. I was unable to find a corresponding record. Could you tell me how to find the source of this information? Thank you in advance. Best regards, Dominique —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domlab ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
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Read these instructions. -- Orange Mike | Talk 21:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Further to our off-wiki e-mail exchange, I have investigated the apparent existence of two articles with the same name. Even though a search shows two hits, they are both to the same article - I even checked the edit histories to make sure. I don't understand why it shows two hits - it may be something to so with Wikipedia's servers being a little out of synch with each other. I will investigate further. – ukexpat ( talk) 16:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you Nigel, you have done a really great job. I will check details to see if all the connections to refs are correct. I am sure they are. In relation to the request for images, I don't think that a picture of him exists. There may be a picture of the Prince de Neufchatel, but I do have a nice vessel registration certifcate which has a nice large Eagle at the top (US Navy) copied for the UK National Archies (copyright?). Also the extract from the ships log printed in the Baltimore Patriot might be a nice addition of colour. hat do w do next? William Wfm495 ( talk) 20:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
That is really good thanks. I am having a bit of a rest as I have been researching this quite intensively over the last few days. Wfm495 ( talk) 22:10, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel Wfm495 ( talk) 10:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I will take a crack at adding headings as you suggest. I will admit that the length of the quotation has been bothering me a little but I am not sure how we could cut it down without losing valuable stuff. Let me do the heading first and then we can see where we are. – ukexpat ( talk) 21:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Brilliant, thanks Nigel, Wfm495 ( talk) 22:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Excellent Nigel. Essentially the same text appears in ref 6 anyway so nothing is lost. Thanks again,
Wfm495 (
talk)
19:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, yes I did see a lot of Google hits for this guy. Certainly the time frame fits for him to be the son and he certainly seems to be notable. I guess it would need a disambiguating title such as John Ordronaux (doctor). I suggest that a user subpage may be the best place to write the article first - User:Wfm495/John Ordronaux (doctor) probably - where you can work on it without fear of deletion. Let me know if you need help setting up that subpage. – ukexpat ( talk) 19:19, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Wiki ref search looks very useful for Dr Ordronaux, thanks Wfm495 ( talk) 22:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
On 18 and 19 February 2009 I researched the outline of this article on the basis of twenty four primary source references. I have now asked ukxpat to link up the refs in Wiki fashion and generally look over the article prior to full publication on Wiki. Wfm495 ( talk) 16:24, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel (ukexpat) for look over/copy edit - good work. Wfm495 ( talk) 19:51, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel! Wfm495 ( talk) 09:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I have seen what you have done and have accepted it. - thanks. I have read Wiki policy on original research. Will Wfm495 ( talk) 15:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, check out the talk page. The article has been re-assessed as B class -- great job! – ukexpat ( talk) 21:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Amazing - couldn't have done it without your help!! Wfm495 ( talk) 21:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, thought you may be interested in the above article that I came across while patrolling the Help Desk. – ukexpat ( talk) 04:49, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, I think I have all the references correct. Please review. I also slightly reworded a couple of sections and removed the final sentence, as I think it was original research. – ukexpat ( talk) 17:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Nigel - Good work thanks. I think it is ready for open publication - would you please action? Thanks again Wfm495 ( talk) 17:53, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Nigel, Thanks very much for the nomination. I don' understand about the tag, or not, for the sub page. Do what you think appropriate. Have another look at my user page. I have redone it. We may be under-rating Dr JO because he was actually a lawyer as well, in fact he was a Prof of medical jurisprudence before he was called up in the Civil War to be a surgeon. How can we get an expert (from the law portal?) on the history of medical jurisprudence to expand the legal/medical aspect of this amazing man's story? Fo my ext project I would like to write about Dr David Bannerman who was a relative of mine and a very famous ornithologist and wrote a huge number of bird handbooks for the BM Nat Hist. But I enjoy working with you and perhaps we can think of another military hist article to improve/write together. I would like to keep in touch with you. Wfm495 ( talk) 21:14, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Many thanks for tweaking. Where have the numbers gone? I apologise for removing your hook. I felt it would cause a dichotomy of choice for the judge, and as it is principally my article, I felt I should write the hook? Wfm495 ( talk) 16:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks, Nigel Wfm495 ( talk) 16:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello there. I'm finding all this very interesting as I am a descendant of John Ordronaux. I'm finding more and more information about him on the Web. I'm totally new to Wikipedia and don't even know if I can write this here, but could see no other way to communicate. I wanted to thank all of you for the work you've been doing on Captain Ordronaux, my great-great-great-great grandfather, and his son, John Ordronaux. Iwlear ( talk) 20:39, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Just a quick caveat on this one. Referencing from your own experience and knowledge, and from an unpublished autobiography, will be a problem, because of verification issues. Happy to help you figure out what can and cannot be done. – ukexpat ( talk) 21:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Point taken. I will consult you before I start. In fact there is much more published about him that I can quote and anyway I cannot find his autobio at present!! The intro of Dr JO looks really good now. goodnight! Having an early night tonite! Wfm495 ( talk) 22:03, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
It can take several days for Google's web crawlers to catch up with new pages, so there is not much we can do there except wait. As for the Wikipedia search engine, I will ask at the Technical section of the Village Pump. – ukexpat ( talk) 22:03, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Nigel. Wfm495 ( talk) 10:26, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Will, it's not a rating, it's just an informational tag indicating that few other articles link to it. It has been applied by a bot (an automatic programme running on WP) and frankly the indiscriminate application of tags like this by bots is pretty annoying. I will see if there are any other articles where we can add links to this one. – ukexpat ( talk) 15:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't really see how he merits mentioning in the civil war, or any of the other pages mentioned. It seems to be violating WP:UNDUE Soxwon ( talk) 21:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
I have only two weeks experience of Wiki so please don't judge me too harshly. When a more extensive article is produced about the Civil War there would clearly be a place for the signifcance of medis as there is in the history of the Crimea or war. I have accepted that since it is a very short article, that mentioning a single dr is not appropriate and i have apologised. But I don't think that there is a need for you to comment negatively about (and undo) everything that I do, especiailly as I am trying to implement Wiki policy. Wfm495 ( talk) 22:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thx Victuallers ( talk) 19:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi Will
How's things? Just wondering whether you have any new projects in the pipeline that we can work on? – ukexpat ( talk) 15:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I am trying to find the ancestors of John Ordronaux, who is said to be born on the 16 of December 1778 at Nantes, Brittany, France. I was unable to find a corresponding record. Could you tell me how to find the source of this information? Thank you in advance. Best regards, Dominique —Preceding unsigned comment added by Domlab ( talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
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