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Hello Wesley. Thank you for your constructive criticism. I just wanted to let you in on what I was trying to do.I have been contributing off and on for a few years now. I do approve of the talk pages. I use them a lot when I edit. However different people have different views on talk pages as well as editing. One time I had an official source for an edit I was making to a page, but the self -proclaimed editor in chief of the page kept on reverting my sourced edit even though I wrote messages on his talk page. After I told him to look there in my last edit to explain himself, he responded that he never reads his talk page!!
I wanted to tell you that I do respect the BBC website as an official source. I don't deny that. When I created the grid for the 2011/12 series a few weeks ago off of Digiguide (word for word BBC), the listing said "These are the competitors and these are the topics" They didn't expressly say who had chosen what topic, so I decided to wait until the shows aired before the topics were added to avoid mistakes. That was my personal choice. I believe this is the first year in the past few years that they have added the topics in te Official BBC listings. You have every right to add the topics in, and rearrange them if needed. There's no harm in that, I just wanted to let you know that even if the 1st 4 episodes correlated exactly, it may not be true for every one of the remaining episodes.
I did some cross checking with the Radio Times listings and it looks like out of the remaining 6 episodes , all the celebrity/topic match up with the BBC except for Episode 8 on 5 January which I was talking to you about. They have the topics in a different order that would be more logical: the Film critic with the movie topic, the Canadian with the Canadian sports team topic. I am sending you the link below and letting you decide if you want to change it now or you can always wait until the show airs on Thursday to make the switch. I hope that we are cool. I never meant to undermine your values as an editor. I was just trying to let you understand why I edited the way I did. Happy New Year! http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/n5v9t/celebrity-mastermind--series-9---episode-8 65.92.135.242 ( talk) 06:50, 1 January 2012 (UTC)samusek2
Hello Wesley Mouse. I happened to see your comment about MiszaBot on another user's talk page. Please see this edit where MiszaBot worked correctly for you, back in September. It seems you have changed your MiszaBot instructions since that time. Your new template is different. The template you used in September can still be seen here. I suggest going back to the previous setup for a while. It is possible that MiszaBot does not want to create entries in a directory that does not exist yet, such as User talk:Wesley Mouse/Archives. Also the actual names of your subfiles don't seem to match the archive string you gave to MiszaBot. Hope you can find a fix! EdJohnston ( talk) 16:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid I can't ignore what is happening on Eurovision Song Contest any longer. This I'm afraid was inappropriate use of Twinkle. This is clearly a content dispute, and you should continue discussing it on the talk page, not use anti-vandalism tools. HTML2011 ( talk · contribs) is an established user and is clearly not a vandal; vandalism is very narrowly definied on Wikipedia and being wrong, violating the WP:MOS e.t.c. does not make someone a vandal. See WP:ATWV, WP:DTTR, and WP:VAND#NOT for more. CT Cooper · talk 23:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I hope you had fun at the Games Maker Training session. For when you return, as you will see at Talk:Eurovision Song Contest, I have protected the Eurovision Song Contest article to prevent any further edit warring. For fairness and as permitted under WP:PREFER, I have protected the article to the version which existed before the dispute began, barring a few small changes. HTML2011 ( talk · contribs) has responded to the points you have raised on the talk page, and when you return, it would be best if you responded back and made clear what changes you want to the article to keep the discussion going. I will prod HTML2011 if necessary, if it appears things are going stale after you reply. Failing that, if agreement can not be reached and there is no outside output, a third opinion might be the way to go. CT Cooper · talk 17:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
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Why do you say that the logo that I posted for Romania in the ESC 2012 must be deleted? The logo that now stands for Romania in Eurovision Song Contest is not the official one. I saw other pictures that are the same as mine, in the ˝Source˝ field it stands only ˝Own work˝. And it's completely my work, why should I mention another source for it?! I want a good explanation!
Luciann Moșescu ( talk) 00:20, 10 February 2012 (CET)
Would you like me to publish the one you checked for you? I could theoretically publish more than one, but when I browse the userbox gallery, there usually are not more than two or three different types of the same userbox, so I think we should be careful and discerning about how many get published.
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I will save the other userboxes I made just in case you or anybody else might want them published. :)
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This one can be used to replace the other one I made, since you expressed dislike with the use of the word plans in that one.
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I have already asked at the ANI page but I will repeat myself here just to be safe. Can you please strike you incorrect comments regarding me. Thanks. Bjmullan ( talk) 21:45, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I've seen it. How it can be his own work is confusing to me? But their is another image I've removed from an article ( File:Malta Eurovision Song Contest 2012.PNG), also tagged as own work, the image(s) could of come from any online site. All these images use the ESC logo, which on here is tagged as {{ Non-free logo}} -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 19:44, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
'Russian Federation' is indeed the official name of the country (this I found out from a certain TV programme called Pointless (along with the United Republic of Tanzania)), but have no idea why it's listed in full, considering the other nations. Vatican City is listed as 'Vatican State' their. But we do not follow the naming convention on Macedonia (although yes, this did go through WP:MOSMAC). I just don't see the point really, they both mean the same thing, link to the same article ( Russia). Also the UN lists the full name on Russia and some others, but not all. :)
As for the Luciann situation, that's good, the user is already in my watchlist.:)-- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 19:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | |
Thank you for fixing up that language debacle. We could have been here until 26 May if you didn't step in! Spa-Franks ( talk) 10:51, 26 February 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you for your hard work on fixing the languages issue across many different Eurovision Song Contest articles. CT Cooper · talk 11:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC) |
Hi Wesley I receved the infomation of the YLE broadcast of the Eurovision from a Finnish ESC fan, who gave me which years TV1 and TV2 took turns in broadcasting the contest. I could give you his contact, if you wish to double check. Regards Mrluke485 ( talk) 17:11,(UTC)
I didn't add it, but have edited it, there is still bound to be some similarities. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 22:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Why did you remove all the templates I have made?? A. There is NO such templates, I made a template for ARTISTS and you mentioned the template for YEARS, I know it is very usefull because not everyone want information about years. B. There are not templates connected to artists, you can check every artist and see that after what you have done you can't go through sevral artists from the same country. C. Most important - besides adding templates I made changes because there are couple of formats for the bottom list of the artist before and after, so I wanted to go over all the artists to have the SAME format, why ruin that? Please fix this issue, I can't find any reason why not let me do job, and as I said, I wanted to do it for ALL the Eurovision artists (Hundreds of them!). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123o ( talk • contribs) 22:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Please avoid being uncivil. I have asked politely that you cease the rude statements aimed at me. Your behaviour towards myself is becoming disruptive and unacceptable. I have read everything you have written - if I hadn't read them, then I wouldn't have replied would I? You asked for examples everytime, and each time I have provided examples. Perhaps you are failing to read what I have provided? As CT Cooper mentioned on his own talk page, he spent all summer fixing templates so that they are easy to use, and worded appropriately. To delete his hours and hours of work would be wrong. Take for example if it was your work that had been around for a long time, and someone else came along demanding their newest version take priority - you would get very upset. So to be fair, I shall explain things one final time, in more simple terminology. I shall use Albania as the example.
Wesley ☀ Mouse 14:38, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry about my change, I didn't mean anything by it. I just noticed that Diggiloo Thrush has the extra lyrics for Norway 1973 down as "Serbo-Croat". In my mind I was doing what we had agreed upon, but if you wanna change it back then I understand. It is your work like, shouldn't have stepped on your toes. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) ( talk) 23:53, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
- very sneaky I thought, but the ref listed the other 10 languages at the reflist section.
Wesley
☀
Mouse
00:01, 5 March 2012 (UTC)Sounds about right yeah. I'll even go shares with you on a barnstar :-) Wesley ☀ Mouse 00:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Will do. I'm almost done myself. Taking a stroll into 2011, and then wham bam into 2012, and job done! Wesley ☀ Mouse 01:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
That looks good - well done! Although the Austrian footnote appears to be tagged to Switzerland. I've managed to travel through 57 years of Eurovision - phew! Wesley ☀ Mouse 01:49, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
The Teamwork Barnstar | |
I award you this Teamwork Barnstar for your help in bringing an end to the huge and very long "Austrian Language Debacle" (since that's what we're calling it now). Sims2aholic8 (Michael) ( talk) 02:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC) |
Ooooo that one is more colourful than the one I issued. Where did you find the jazzed-up version? Thank you BTW, I shall add it to my wall of fame. Wesley ☀ Mouse 02:19, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
You know what to do. Thanks! Good luck at your darts match by the way. – Kosm 1 fent 17:38, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I fully accept your offer. I would like to say that this issue got totally out of proportions, since I actually never meant to provoke you, and as you said before some supported you and others didn't. I guess it is a part of cultural differences that made me see something different than you do, but I believe we both learned a thing or two in this episode. Cheers, take care! (By the way, a good example of this cultural differences is that when I write something in CAPITAL LETTERS it means I want to emphasize something (good or bad), and now I know that some see it as sort of "virtual yelling"... It's good to know that now...)
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archive of past discussions for the period January - March 2012. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
Hello Wesley. Thank you for your constructive criticism. I just wanted to let you in on what I was trying to do.I have been contributing off and on for a few years now. I do approve of the talk pages. I use them a lot when I edit. However different people have different views on talk pages as well as editing. One time I had an official source for an edit I was making to a page, but the self -proclaimed editor in chief of the page kept on reverting my sourced edit even though I wrote messages on his talk page. After I told him to look there in my last edit to explain himself, he responded that he never reads his talk page!!
I wanted to tell you that I do respect the BBC website as an official source. I don't deny that. When I created the grid for the 2011/12 series a few weeks ago off of Digiguide (word for word BBC), the listing said "These are the competitors and these are the topics" They didn't expressly say who had chosen what topic, so I decided to wait until the shows aired before the topics were added to avoid mistakes. That was my personal choice. I believe this is the first year in the past few years that they have added the topics in te Official BBC listings. You have every right to add the topics in, and rearrange them if needed. There's no harm in that, I just wanted to let you know that even if the 1st 4 episodes correlated exactly, it may not be true for every one of the remaining episodes.
I did some cross checking with the Radio Times listings and it looks like out of the remaining 6 episodes , all the celebrity/topic match up with the BBC except for Episode 8 on 5 January which I was talking to you about. They have the topics in a different order that would be more logical: the Film critic with the movie topic, the Canadian with the Canadian sports team topic. I am sending you the link below and letting you decide if you want to change it now or you can always wait until the show airs on Thursday to make the switch. I hope that we are cool. I never meant to undermine your values as an editor. I was just trying to let you understand why I edited the way I did. Happy New Year! http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/n5v9t/celebrity-mastermind--series-9---episode-8 65.92.135.242 ( talk) 06:50, 1 January 2012 (UTC)samusek2
Hello Wesley Mouse. I happened to see your comment about MiszaBot on another user's talk page. Please see this edit where MiszaBot worked correctly for you, back in September. It seems you have changed your MiszaBot instructions since that time. Your new template is different. The template you used in September can still be seen here. I suggest going back to the previous setup for a while. It is possible that MiszaBot does not want to create entries in a directory that does not exist yet, such as User talk:Wesley Mouse/Archives. Also the actual names of your subfiles don't seem to match the archive string you gave to MiszaBot. Hope you can find a fix! EdJohnston ( talk) 16:19, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid I can't ignore what is happening on Eurovision Song Contest any longer. This I'm afraid was inappropriate use of Twinkle. This is clearly a content dispute, and you should continue discussing it on the talk page, not use anti-vandalism tools. HTML2011 ( talk · contribs) is an established user and is clearly not a vandal; vandalism is very narrowly definied on Wikipedia and being wrong, violating the WP:MOS e.t.c. does not make someone a vandal. See WP:ATWV, WP:DTTR, and WP:VAND#NOT for more. CT Cooper · talk 23:47, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
I hope you had fun at the Games Maker Training session. For when you return, as you will see at Talk:Eurovision Song Contest, I have protected the Eurovision Song Contest article to prevent any further edit warring. For fairness and as permitted under WP:PREFER, I have protected the article to the version which existed before the dispute began, barring a few small changes. HTML2011 ( talk · contribs) has responded to the points you have raised on the talk page, and when you return, it would be best if you responded back and made clear what changes you want to the article to keep the discussion going. I will prod HTML2011 if necessary, if it appears things are going stale after you reply. Failing that, if agreement can not be reached and there is no outside output, a third opinion might be the way to go. CT Cooper · talk 17:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Hey there Wesley Mouse, thank you for your contributions! I am a bot, alerting you that non-free files are not allowed in user or talk space. I removed some files I found on User:Wesley Mouse.
Thank you, -- DASHBot ( talk) 05:15, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Why do you say that the logo that I posted for Romania in the ESC 2012 must be deleted? The logo that now stands for Romania in Eurovision Song Contest is not the official one. I saw other pictures that are the same as mine, in the ˝Source˝ field it stands only ˝Own work˝. And it's completely my work, why should I mention another source for it?! I want a good explanation!
Luciann Moșescu ( talk) 00:20, 10 February 2012 (CET)
Would you like me to publish the one you checked for you? I could theoretically publish more than one, but when I browse the userbox gallery, there usually are not more than two or three different types of the same userbox, so I think we should be careful and discerning about how many get published.
RedSoxFan274
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02:21, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Please use this code:
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{{ User:RedSoxFan274/Userboxes/VolunteerLondon2012}} |
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I will save the other userboxes I made just in case you or anybody else might want them published. :)
RedSoxFan274
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02:28, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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{{ User:RedSoxFan274/Userboxes/2012 London (certainty)}} |
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This one can be used to replace the other one I made, since you expressed dislike with the use of the word plans in that one.
RedSoxFan274
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02:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I have already asked at the ANI page but I will repeat myself here just to be safe. Can you please strike you incorrect comments regarding me. Thanks. Bjmullan ( talk) 21:45, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I've seen it. How it can be his own work is confusing to me? But their is another image I've removed from an article ( File:Malta Eurovision Song Contest 2012.PNG), also tagged as own work, the image(s) could of come from any online site. All these images use the ESC logo, which on here is tagged as {{ Non-free logo}} -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 19:44, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
'Russian Federation' is indeed the official name of the country (this I found out from a certain TV programme called Pointless (along with the United Republic of Tanzania)), but have no idea why it's listed in full, considering the other nations. Vatican City is listed as 'Vatican State' their. But we do not follow the naming convention on Macedonia (although yes, this did go through WP:MOSMAC). I just don't see the point really, they both mean the same thing, link to the same article ( Russia). Also the UN lists the full name on Russia and some others, but not all. :)
As for the Luciann situation, that's good, the user is already in my watchlist.:)-- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 19:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | |
Thank you for fixing up that language debacle. We could have been here until 26 May if you didn't step in! Spa-Franks ( talk) 10:51, 26 February 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you for your hard work on fixing the languages issue across many different Eurovision Song Contest articles. CT Cooper · talk 11:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC) |
Hi Wesley I receved the infomation of the YLE broadcast of the Eurovision from a Finnish ESC fan, who gave me which years TV1 and TV2 took turns in broadcasting the contest. I could give you his contact, if you wish to double check. Regards Mrluke485 ( talk) 17:11,(UTC)
I didn't add it, but have edited it, there is still bound to be some similarities. -- [[ axg ◉ talk ]] 22:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Why did you remove all the templates I have made?? A. There is NO such templates, I made a template for ARTISTS and you mentioned the template for YEARS, I know it is very usefull because not everyone want information about years. B. There are not templates connected to artists, you can check every artist and see that after what you have done you can't go through sevral artists from the same country. C. Most important - besides adding templates I made changes because there are couple of formats for the bottom list of the artist before and after, so I wanted to go over all the artists to have the SAME format, why ruin that? Please fix this issue, I can't find any reason why not let me do job, and as I said, I wanted to do it for ALL the Eurovision artists (Hundreds of them!). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123o ( talk • contribs) 22:26, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Please avoid being uncivil. I have asked politely that you cease the rude statements aimed at me. Your behaviour towards myself is becoming disruptive and unacceptable. I have read everything you have written - if I hadn't read them, then I wouldn't have replied would I? You asked for examples everytime, and each time I have provided examples. Perhaps you are failing to read what I have provided? As CT Cooper mentioned on his own talk page, he spent all summer fixing templates so that they are easy to use, and worded appropriately. To delete his hours and hours of work would be wrong. Take for example if it was your work that had been around for a long time, and someone else came along demanding their newest version take priority - you would get very upset. So to be fair, I shall explain things one final time, in more simple terminology. I shall use Albania as the example.
Wesley ☀ Mouse 14:38, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry about my change, I didn't mean anything by it. I just noticed that Diggiloo Thrush has the extra lyrics for Norway 1973 down as "Serbo-Croat". In my mind I was doing what we had agreed upon, but if you wanna change it back then I understand. It is your work like, shouldn't have stepped on your toes. Sims2aholic8 (Michael) ( talk) 23:53, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
<ref>...</ref>
- very sneaky I thought, but the ref listed the other 10 languages at the reflist section.
Wesley
☀
Mouse
00:01, 5 March 2012 (UTC)Sounds about right yeah. I'll even go shares with you on a barnstar :-) Wesley ☀ Mouse 00:48, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Will do. I'm almost done myself. Taking a stroll into 2011, and then wham bam into 2012, and job done! Wesley ☀ Mouse 01:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
That looks good - well done! Although the Austrian footnote appears to be tagged to Switzerland. I've managed to travel through 57 years of Eurovision - phew! Wesley ☀ Mouse 01:49, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
The Teamwork Barnstar | |
I award you this Teamwork Barnstar for your help in bringing an end to the huge and very long "Austrian Language Debacle" (since that's what we're calling it now). Sims2aholic8 (Michael) ( talk) 02:17, 5 March 2012 (UTC) |
Ooooo that one is more colourful than the one I issued. Where did you find the jazzed-up version? Thank you BTW, I shall add it to my wall of fame. Wesley ☀ Mouse 02:19, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
You know what to do. Thanks! Good luck at your darts match by the way. – Kosm 1 fent 17:38, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello. I fully accept your offer. I would like to say that this issue got totally out of proportions, since I actually never meant to provoke you, and as you said before some supported you and others didn't. I guess it is a part of cultural differences that made me see something different than you do, but I believe we both learned a thing or two in this episode. Cheers, take care! (By the way, a good example of this cultural differences is that when I write something in CAPITAL LETTERS it means I want to emphasize something (good or bad), and now I know that some see it as sort of "virtual yelling"... It's good to know that now...)
Spread the peace of doves by adding {{ subst:Peace dove}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message!
Thanks for your help! I've joined the Eurovision WikiProject, and I'm welcome to help you any way I can too. -- Davidcolombia96eng ( talk) 00:39, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello,
There is currently a discussion ongoing at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision#Template duplications on the future use of navigation templates (navboxes) within Eurovision articles. The consequences of this discussion could have a large impact on how these templates are organized, named, and used in future, so all project members are invited to participate in the discussion.
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