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Thanks. I guess that's all you wanted to say?/nothing regarding any of my comments, er or new, comments? [It is speculated that I have Asperger's..... [I would be nice if I could get some help, know any psychologists? Resident psychologists? (Thanks.)] 100110100 01:34, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
You mentioned that if you talked about you'd get into trouble, but I think that it's important not only intersting to be opinionated. Have you heard of wikireason? 100110100 00:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your hard work keeping H5N1 up to date. I never got back to you on the sources for veg oil thing (if I remember right), but I know nothing about it and don't know how I could be of service in that area. In looking at Template:H5N1 case graph, and remembering the warning the experts gave concerning an increase in human H5N1 cases this winter, it occurred to me that maybe changing Template:H5N1 case graph so that the months of Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May were shaded might help make plain the pattern. Cheers. WAS 4.250 06:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
From Global spread of H5N1 (June 30, 2006):
Peaks roughly correspond "to winter and spring in the northern hemisphere". is their analysis and can be added. WAS 4.250 07:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. It's an unusually good newspaper story about science/technology; most of them are on the order of "Do not pull turnips. It injures them. Instead, send a small boy up to shake the tree." or "Clams will lie quietly if you play gentle music." (Not my original observations - those are Mark Twain's examples.) Dad was in the solar energy business, and he was very happy in the 1930s when soybeans promised to add nitrogen to the soil at the same time that he got a highly valuable crop. And in the 1960s, prices hit $10/bushel, and it was happy days. But the prices went back to $2.50 and $3.00, and soybeans *toughen* the soil. You have to invest a lot of money in fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides for corn, the seed is expensive, and you often have to replant, so corn is not the greatest crop, and wheat is a two-year crop, so you can go broke that way. Eventually, he came to decide that oats, which takes cheap seed, requires little fertilizer, grows close enough together to crowds out weeds, which can be planted late, and which produce enough stalk material to keep the ground loose, was probably his best crop. Price is pretty stable, too, instead of getting really high or really low. Too bad you can't grow oats after oats after oats, season after season.
Regular rabbit feed is designed to produce fat meaty rabbits in minimal time, so it's great for meat farmers, but for pet rabbits, oat hay is the best food. I've thought about approaching a local farmer to raise pesticide/herbicide free oat hay for me, just an acre or so, because most pet shops don't carry oat hay and can't get it from their suppliers. For $100, you can buy 100 50-pound bales from a farmer, but in pet shops, a 2-pound bag of oat hay - about a 2 month supply - sells for about $5. To me, that sounds like a really good part-time business to get into.
Again, thanks for the link. ClairSamoht 10:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your compliment on my talk page. It means a lot that you apparently think so well of my conflict resolution ability. I do try to keep the peace on Wikipedia, and it's nice to know that someone thinks I'm doing a good job!!! Thank you so much for your kind words. Please let me know if you need anything, and have a great day! :) Srose (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to know whether a living person's own website is recognised as a reference by wikipedia. I am planning to expand the article on Camille Anderson as it has been put on AFD for lack of informatuion establishing notability. I decided to first find information on her own site. I want to know whether it can be refered to as a reference here. Unitedroad 15:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your words of encouragement! You noted my increased contributions starting in June; what you might not have noticed is that the change corresponds to the addition of stay at home dad to my user page! The connection, I'm sure, is clear: although I love my new job, I also love being part of a community, which is tough for a house-parent! Cheers -- Graham talk/ mail/ e 20:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah sure, here's the sight bro: http://www.webcom.com/~donh/efaq.html#growing. Cameron Nedland 01:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, did you redo my work cause of my changes to the article? ((You noticed?)) Well, the reason I added those new words was because I found them in my textbook, not because I made them up. When I changed the sentence, it was still NPOV; I didn't say that it should be called something else. Wasn't more factually accurate saying that "...craftsman is the term for a male artisan..."? 100110100 00:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
That's a funny question! No, ClairSamoht and Waitak are two very different people who happen to share a few common interests. Waitak 07:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Yea, I would like to have the infobox float on the right side, and the surrounding text to fill in beside it, something like newspaper sideboxes. I can't seem to figure out what it is that I need to change. I am new to this type of formatting, so I appreciate all the help that you give. --Willy No1lakersfan ( Talk - Contribs) 15:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I like it, too. Did you look it up? It comes from the Latin word spargere, meaning to scatter. In chemical engineering classes, it was mostly used to describe spraying a liquid on a solid. Build a tower, fill it full of saddle-shaped hunks (they don't pack very well) and apray a liquid at the top of the tower, allowing it to trickle down. You'll have lots of contact between the liquid and the saddles, and if the saddles are a catalyst, your sparging tower will induce a reaction. Generally works a lot better than tossing everything in a vat, and trying to keep the catalyst in suspension by stirring a lot. They "lauter" beer, a sparging process in which case the mash is the solid, and the point of spraying it is to remove excess sugars from the mash.
Hydrogen under pressure is potentially hazardous, so sparging gives the oil a lot of agitation without introducing any extra mechnical parts and extra seals that can fail, and it's pretty much "for free" since you have to introduce the hydrogen anyhow.
Late in the refining process for soy oil, they sparge the oil at high temperature and vacuum (so as to keep the oil from oxidizing) with water, which immediately turns to steam. The steam sparging removes any water-soluble impurities which can give the oil a flavor, and it even fractionates the oil a little. The condensate for that process is where they get vitamin E, but it's also where agrichemical poisons like Aldrin and Dieldrin show up, which should blow the mind of anyone who thinks "natural" vitamins are automatically safe. If they screw up, swallowing that poison-laced vitamin E will kill your weeds. ::grin:: ClairSamoht 18:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Hhhhmmmm, Clair's gone for some time? Have you heard from him any? It's like/seems like he's not away.........eh?
100110100
03:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I'm honored! Thank you! And thank you for your partnership and friendship in the course of making all of those many edits on topics veggie-oil-related and otherwise. Waitak 04:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
RE: "Current question: How would a sabbath economy work in practice? "
Have you examined the various anarchist and libertarian (not as in the U.S. poltical party) theories relevant to this, sociological as well as economically, i.e. mutualism and so force. I am sure I have heard of Christian anarchist thinkers discussing this before. AFRIEND 9/3/06
Actually if you search the page you'll find that both color and colour are used. --- Lid 09:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Waitak! Thanks for the notice about the above editor. I have looked over the contribs, and all seem to be good again. Thanks for reverting the edits that you could, and if you ever need help again, just contact me. By the way, I think when I am in HK one day, I will definitely come and find you for that lunch or dinner.... :P Thanks once again! -- Ali K 09:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your notice about the malayalam interwiki Link in earthquake article, I think problem solved now ;), I dont know why this happen, but I am sure I did the same edit in my previous session, I got the destination page too. Still nope, If you can please correct the link to, http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AD%E0%B5%82%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%82 , thankyou --- Praveen 05:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Pretty silly, those kids. Doesn't bother me none... but thanks anyway. -- Graham talk/ mail/ e 11:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
With regard to cleaning up references in Global spread of H5N1 - feel free to delete/summarize/reorganize as you go. I've thought of breaking off part of it as one or two seperate articles (H5N1 in 2005 ?) but it didn't feel right. My main problem is that since this is ongoing, no one knows what part of the history is important and what part isn't important ... yet. WAS 4.250 05:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I think that Global spread of H5N1 should be moving away from bullet points and towards a more integrated paragraph style (while 2004, 2005 and 2006 are good as they are mostly maybe). Except, I'm not a good enough writer to pull it off as a general rule. What do you think about moving away from bullet points? WAS 4.250 17:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Good work on Global spread of H5N1 in 2006. Your dedication to proper citation is inspiring. WAS 4.250 18:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
It is all due to you. Once upon a time, I added sources with just "[]" around them. Then I added a label; then the article name and publication date; and now its come to this. Where will it all end! Ohhhhh, the humanity.... WAS 4.250 15:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Looks a lot better now, thanks! One small point, it looks decidedly odd, being mainly about Russian (European/Asian) uses, yet written in American spellings - it would read better with 'flavour', etc., as per the manual of style area relevance guidelines - MPF 19:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I know you are also a friend of ClairSamoht, so I thought I would let you know that Clair said goodbye on my Talk page tonight (under section Frog, I think it is number 16). He is gone from WP. I am quite sad about all this. I think I will send him an email in a week or two, but need to think what to say first. I am watching Johnny Appleseed now (his only GA). Take care and sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Ruhrfisch 03:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Waitak,
I have tried to add content but all was removed.
Can you please explain why? "South African Shop" is a ligit and well know term amongst South Africans and population of countries where large number of South Africans can be found.
I was sitting in my sand box "as you suggested" and well, I still think South African shop does have a Wiki value to it. Now... I wonder, can you sit in your sandbox and look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nando's while you are there. Now is Nando's uuuhhmm, yes, that's right, it's a promotion for well... Nando's... What's it doing there? What makes it different to what South African Shop refers to? Why dont I mayke a SA PROMO wiki, then it's acceptable is it not? Eagerly await your reply!
Hey Waitak!
I've recently bumped into List of chinese dialects. I've noticed they've changed the section titles; before they had the chinese after the english name of the '...divisions...'. What was the reasoning behind that?
Danke.
Thank you, I have taken onboard your advice and guidance. I will be back shortly with VERION 2 (the one with more thinking and research behind it) SAPROMO.com 06:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
This diagram should be saved as an SVG instead, Ĩ hope that you can do that. → A z a Toth 23:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Trying to juggle too many things at once? WAS 4.250 06:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Discussion has been closed! Bearian ( talk) 19:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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The Article Rescue Barnstar | |
For saving List of plants used as medicine, after my nomination for deletion. Great job! Bearian ( talk) 19:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
Hi Waitak,
I am hoping to get List of vegetable oils up on the main page by way of Today's featured list. My first nomination failed because of the "derelict state of the notes section" on the article. If you would aid me in getting this list back up to par so that a second TFL nomination can pass, I would greatly appreciate it.
Neelix ( talk) 16:43, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
I really do hate to do this, but I noticed this thread, had a look, and that sourcing is appalling, and just a few checks found one case not backed by the source. Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of vegetable oils/archive1. 86.** IP ( talk) 02:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Look, there's literally hundreds of herbs that COULD be included, not including some until such time as reliable sources are found won't hurt anything, AND will do a great deal to solve the problems the article has. If there's high standards of inclusion, good sourcing (and decent discussion of the scientific evidence, though that's still needed), it'll keep the article from becoming the POVPUSH that nearly got it deleted again. 86.** IP ( talk) 02:21, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Um, Waitak, oil, by definition, doesn't contain protein, and the source isn't about oil, but meal. You might want to review the definition of oil. 86.** IP ( talk) 16:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Footnote: [*] I'm slightly in favour of delist in the short term, but only because I think the more detailed review of WP:FLC would help make it that extra bit better, and shouldn't take much more time.
Going through. Please don't edit for a bit. Ignore anything with verification needed for now - some of them are probably okay, it's more that they should be briefly discussed. 86.** IP ( talk) 18:36, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Good news and bad news - LOTS of Verify source tags so far, but I suspect most of them will be alright in the end, we just need to run them by the Reliable source noticeboard to make sure they're alright. I thought it better to mark them than to have to go over it again. 86.** IP ( talk) 18:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I only got as far as "Oils from melon and gourd seeds" - I'm afraid I hadn't yet hit save at that point; you'll see what I mean if you look again at the first thirty sources. BUT, as I said, a lot of these just need checked to get an all-clear, there's only a few unambiguous problems. 86.** IP ( talk) 19:00, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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SusanLai ( talk) 05:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
That should do the trick. 86.** IP ( talk) 06:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm replying here because I think the page is self-explanatory. Coffee berries (coffee cherries) are eaten where the plant is grown (they are very sweet). Angiosperm means "contained seed", and the seed container is the "fruit". Gymnosperms such as Taxus and the Podocarps have naked seeds, they are not Angiosperms. The Plants for Future page is using the terminology in a way that is not botanically correct. Nadiatalent ( talk) 13:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Added some final-ish thoughts on the talk page. 86.** IP ( talk) 20:30, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Fantastic job you've with this list; it's now a model of how to create useful food-related article without resorting to dubious sources (as so many such articles do). (I have fixed the two uses of "ibid" – it's really quite easy to do and much safer against additional refs changing the displayed order.)
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For your impressive overhaul of List of vegetable oils and for your persistent willingness to employ your learning for the betterment of the project, I award you this barnstar. Wikipedia needs more academics to invest in this world knowledge base, as you are doing. Neelix ( talk) 14:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC) |
Apparently (allegedly?) some U.S. legislative body recently decreed pizza to be a vegetable (because it has some tomato content), supposedly so that U.S. schools could serve pizza and claim they were giving kids fresh vegetables. (This leads to the joke that " meat and two veg is a healthy meal - an example would be a steak sandwiched between two slices of pizza"). I haven't bothered to research which parts of this rumour are actually true, but it's probably the explanation for the vandalism. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 03:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
I think what you've done with the vegetable oils list can serve as a reasonable model for this list, and I wouldn't advise keeping this list much simpler than that one in terms of style. You don't want a situation where someone says the list isn't at the level of the vegetable oils list, since that's the most obvious comparison. The big question in my mind is whether someone will ask to have the list in table form. You'll need to make a decision on the list's style and be prepared to justify it at FLC. I think the vegetable oils style works, but I'm only one reviewer/director. If you're uncertain, you could always go to peer review and ask for others' opinions on the subject. However, I encourage you strongly to try bringing the culinary nuts list to FL. The vegetable oils list is the only current food and drink FL, and that portion of WP:FL is rather deserted. It would be great to fill it up a little! Giants2008 ( Talk) 02:41, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again for this-- two thoughts to consider. How about Butternut (tree)?? And consider repeating the hazelnut comment ("Several other species are edible, but not commercially cultivated to any significant extent.") under hickories? Or does 'edible' imply 'palatable' here? Araucana ( talk) 23:13, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
I finally figured out one of my concerns: walnuts and hickories ARE TRUE nuts, not drupes, according to my Plant Taxonomy textbook (Porter, albeit 1967). They will need to be moved, and we probably need to rewrite the definitions at the beginning for clarification. I need to run now, but will get back to you or attempt an edit later today. Also, check on Kola-- that picture makes it look wrong for "true nut" definition. See [4] in the meantime, it might be helpful. Thanks for all your patience with this article, Waitak! Araucana ( talk) 16:19, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
It's worse than I thought, and I'm dropping my objection; drupe does seem to be widely used for walnuts these days. I think (with Porter) that it hinges on whether the outer husk is ovary wall or hypanthium. Took the question up with botanist friends, one of whom found a good historical review that demonstrates the confusion but fails to resolve the botanical question. I posted the link and selected quotes in User:Araucana/sandbox so as not to add too much garbage here if you want to take a look. Keep up the good work!! Araucana ( talk) 15:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks. I guess that's all you wanted to say?/nothing regarding any of my comments, er or new, comments? [It is speculated that I have Asperger's..... [I would be nice if I could get some help, know any psychologists? Resident psychologists? (Thanks.)] 100110100 01:34, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
You mentioned that if you talked about you'd get into trouble, but I think that it's important not only intersting to be opinionated. Have you heard of wikireason? 100110100 00:51, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your hard work keeping H5N1 up to date. I never got back to you on the sources for veg oil thing (if I remember right), but I know nothing about it and don't know how I could be of service in that area. In looking at Template:H5N1 case graph, and remembering the warning the experts gave concerning an increase in human H5N1 cases this winter, it occurred to me that maybe changing Template:H5N1 case graph so that the months of Dec, Jan, Feb, Mar, Apr, May were shaded might help make plain the pattern. Cheers. WAS 4.250 06:05, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
From Global spread of H5N1 (June 30, 2006):
Peaks roughly correspond "to winter and spring in the northern hemisphere". is their analysis and can be added. WAS 4.250 07:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the link. It's an unusually good newspaper story about science/technology; most of them are on the order of "Do not pull turnips. It injures them. Instead, send a small boy up to shake the tree." or "Clams will lie quietly if you play gentle music." (Not my original observations - those are Mark Twain's examples.) Dad was in the solar energy business, and he was very happy in the 1930s when soybeans promised to add nitrogen to the soil at the same time that he got a highly valuable crop. And in the 1960s, prices hit $10/bushel, and it was happy days. But the prices went back to $2.50 and $3.00, and soybeans *toughen* the soil. You have to invest a lot of money in fertilizer, herbicides and pesticides for corn, the seed is expensive, and you often have to replant, so corn is not the greatest crop, and wheat is a two-year crop, so you can go broke that way. Eventually, he came to decide that oats, which takes cheap seed, requires little fertilizer, grows close enough together to crowds out weeds, which can be planted late, and which produce enough stalk material to keep the ground loose, was probably his best crop. Price is pretty stable, too, instead of getting really high or really low. Too bad you can't grow oats after oats after oats, season after season.
Regular rabbit feed is designed to produce fat meaty rabbits in minimal time, so it's great for meat farmers, but for pet rabbits, oat hay is the best food. I've thought about approaching a local farmer to raise pesticide/herbicide free oat hay for me, just an acre or so, because most pet shops don't carry oat hay and can't get it from their suppliers. For $100, you can buy 100 50-pound bales from a farmer, but in pet shops, a 2-pound bag of oat hay - about a 2 month supply - sells for about $5. To me, that sounds like a really good part-time business to get into.
Again, thanks for the link. ClairSamoht 10:04, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your compliment on my talk page. It means a lot that you apparently think so well of my conflict resolution ability. I do try to keep the peace on Wikipedia, and it's nice to know that someone thinks I'm doing a good job!!! Thank you so much for your kind words. Please let me know if you need anything, and have a great day! :) Srose (talk) 12:50, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to know whether a living person's own website is recognised as a reference by wikipedia. I am planning to expand the article on Camille Anderson as it has been put on AFD for lack of informatuion establishing notability. I decided to first find information on her own site. I want to know whether it can be refered to as a reference here. Unitedroad 15:16, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your words of encouragement! You noted my increased contributions starting in June; what you might not have noticed is that the change corresponds to the addition of stay at home dad to my user page! The connection, I'm sure, is clear: although I love my new job, I also love being part of a community, which is tough for a house-parent! Cheers -- Graham talk/ mail/ e 20:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah sure, here's the sight bro: http://www.webcom.com/~donh/efaq.html#growing. Cameron Nedland 01:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, did you redo my work cause of my changes to the article? ((You noticed?)) Well, the reason I added those new words was because I found them in my textbook, not because I made them up. When I changed the sentence, it was still NPOV; I didn't say that it should be called something else. Wasn't more factually accurate saying that "...craftsman is the term for a male artisan..."? 100110100 00:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
That's a funny question! No, ClairSamoht and Waitak are two very different people who happen to share a few common interests. Waitak 07:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Yea, I would like to have the infobox float on the right side, and the surrounding text to fill in beside it, something like newspaper sideboxes. I can't seem to figure out what it is that I need to change. I am new to this type of formatting, so I appreciate all the help that you give. --Willy No1lakersfan ( Talk - Contribs) 15:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
I like it, too. Did you look it up? It comes from the Latin word spargere, meaning to scatter. In chemical engineering classes, it was mostly used to describe spraying a liquid on a solid. Build a tower, fill it full of saddle-shaped hunks (they don't pack very well) and apray a liquid at the top of the tower, allowing it to trickle down. You'll have lots of contact between the liquid and the saddles, and if the saddles are a catalyst, your sparging tower will induce a reaction. Generally works a lot better than tossing everything in a vat, and trying to keep the catalyst in suspension by stirring a lot. They "lauter" beer, a sparging process in which case the mash is the solid, and the point of spraying it is to remove excess sugars from the mash.
Hydrogen under pressure is potentially hazardous, so sparging gives the oil a lot of agitation without introducing any extra mechnical parts and extra seals that can fail, and it's pretty much "for free" since you have to introduce the hydrogen anyhow.
Late in the refining process for soy oil, they sparge the oil at high temperature and vacuum (so as to keep the oil from oxidizing) with water, which immediately turns to steam. The steam sparging removes any water-soluble impurities which can give the oil a flavor, and it even fractionates the oil a little. The condensate for that process is where they get vitamin E, but it's also where agrichemical poisons like Aldrin and Dieldrin show up, which should blow the mind of anyone who thinks "natural" vitamins are automatically safe. If they screw up, swallowing that poison-laced vitamin E will kill your weeds. ::grin:: ClairSamoht 18:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Hhhhmmmm, Clair's gone for some time? Have you heard from him any? It's like/seems like he's not away.........eh?
100110100
03:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Wow, I'm honored! Thank you! And thank you for your partnership and friendship in the course of making all of those many edits on topics veggie-oil-related and otherwise. Waitak 04:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
RE: "Current question: How would a sabbath economy work in practice? "
Have you examined the various anarchist and libertarian (not as in the U.S. poltical party) theories relevant to this, sociological as well as economically, i.e. mutualism and so force. I am sure I have heard of Christian anarchist thinkers discussing this before. AFRIEND 9/3/06
Actually if you search the page you'll find that both color and colour are used. --- Lid 09:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Waitak! Thanks for the notice about the above editor. I have looked over the contribs, and all seem to be good again. Thanks for reverting the edits that you could, and if you ever need help again, just contact me. By the way, I think when I am in HK one day, I will definitely come and find you for that lunch or dinner.... :P Thanks once again! -- Ali K 09:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your notice about the malayalam interwiki Link in earthquake article, I think problem solved now ;), I dont know why this happen, but I am sure I did the same edit in my previous session, I got the destination page too. Still nope, If you can please correct the link to, http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%AD%E0%B5%82%E0%B4%95%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%8D%E0%B4%AA%E0%B4%82 , thankyou --- Praveen 05:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Pretty silly, those kids. Doesn't bother me none... but thanks anyway. -- Graham talk/ mail/ e 11:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
With regard to cleaning up references in Global spread of H5N1 - feel free to delete/summarize/reorganize as you go. I've thought of breaking off part of it as one or two seperate articles (H5N1 in 2005 ?) but it didn't feel right. My main problem is that since this is ongoing, no one knows what part of the history is important and what part isn't important ... yet. WAS 4.250 05:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
I think that Global spread of H5N1 should be moving away from bullet points and towards a more integrated paragraph style (while 2004, 2005 and 2006 are good as they are mostly maybe). Except, I'm not a good enough writer to pull it off as a general rule. What do you think about moving away from bullet points? WAS 4.250 17:13, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Good work on Global spread of H5N1 in 2006. Your dedication to proper citation is inspiring. WAS 4.250 18:46, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
It is all due to you. Once upon a time, I added sources with just "[]" around them. Then I added a label; then the article name and publication date; and now its come to this. Where will it all end! Ohhhhh, the humanity.... WAS 4.250 15:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Looks a lot better now, thanks! One small point, it looks decidedly odd, being mainly about Russian (European/Asian) uses, yet written in American spellings - it would read better with 'flavour', etc., as per the manual of style area relevance guidelines - MPF 19:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
I know you are also a friend of ClairSamoht, so I thought I would let you know that Clair said goodbye on my Talk page tonight (under section Frog, I think it is number 16). He is gone from WP. I am quite sad about all this. I think I will send him an email in a week or two, but need to think what to say first. I am watching Johnny Appleseed now (his only GA). Take care and sorry to be the bearer of bad news, Ruhrfisch 03:36, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Waitak,
I have tried to add content but all was removed.
Can you please explain why? "South African Shop" is a ligit and well know term amongst South Africans and population of countries where large number of South Africans can be found.
I was sitting in my sand box "as you suggested" and well, I still think South African shop does have a Wiki value to it. Now... I wonder, can you sit in your sandbox and look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nando's while you are there. Now is Nando's uuuhhmm, yes, that's right, it's a promotion for well... Nando's... What's it doing there? What makes it different to what South African Shop refers to? Why dont I mayke a SA PROMO wiki, then it's acceptable is it not? Eagerly await your reply!
Hey Waitak!
I've recently bumped into List of chinese dialects. I've noticed they've changed the section titles; before they had the chinese after the english name of the '...divisions...'. What was the reasoning behind that?
Danke.
Thank you, I have taken onboard your advice and guidance. I will be back shortly with VERION 2 (the one with more thinking and research behind it) SAPROMO.com 06:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
This diagram should be saved as an SVG instead, Ĩ hope that you can do that. → A z a Toth 23:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Trying to juggle too many things at once? WAS 4.250 06:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Discussion has been closed! Bearian ( talk) 19:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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For saving List of plants used as medicine, after my nomination for deletion. Great job! Bearian ( talk) 19:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
Hi Waitak,
I am hoping to get List of vegetable oils up on the main page by way of Today's featured list. My first nomination failed because of the "derelict state of the notes section" on the article. If you would aid me in getting this list back up to par so that a second TFL nomination can pass, I would greatly appreciate it.
Neelix ( talk) 16:43, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
I really do hate to do this, but I noticed this thread, had a look, and that sourcing is appalling, and just a few checks found one case not backed by the source. Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of vegetable oils/archive1. 86.** IP ( talk) 02:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Look, there's literally hundreds of herbs that COULD be included, not including some until such time as reliable sources are found won't hurt anything, AND will do a great deal to solve the problems the article has. If there's high standards of inclusion, good sourcing (and decent discussion of the scientific evidence, though that's still needed), it'll keep the article from becoming the POVPUSH that nearly got it deleted again. 86.** IP ( talk) 02:21, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Um, Waitak, oil, by definition, doesn't contain protein, and the source isn't about oil, but meal. You might want to review the definition of oil. 86.** IP ( talk) 16:45, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Footnote: [*] I'm slightly in favour of delist in the short term, but only because I think the more detailed review of WP:FLC would help make it that extra bit better, and shouldn't take much more time.
Going through. Please don't edit for a bit. Ignore anything with verification needed for now - some of them are probably okay, it's more that they should be briefly discussed. 86.** IP ( talk) 18:36, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
Good news and bad news - LOTS of Verify source tags so far, but I suspect most of them will be alright in the end, we just need to run them by the Reliable source noticeboard to make sure they're alright. I thought it better to mark them than to have to go over it again. 86.** IP ( talk) 18:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
I only got as far as "Oils from melon and gourd seeds" - I'm afraid I hadn't yet hit save at that point; you'll see what I mean if you look again at the first thirty sources. BUT, as I said, a lot of these just need checked to get an all-clear, there's only a few unambiguous problems. 86.** IP ( talk) 19:00, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
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SusanLai ( talk) 05:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
That should do the trick. 86.** IP ( talk) 06:55, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm replying here because I think the page is self-explanatory. Coffee berries (coffee cherries) are eaten where the plant is grown (they are very sweet). Angiosperm means "contained seed", and the seed container is the "fruit". Gymnosperms such as Taxus and the Podocarps have naked seeds, they are not Angiosperms. The Plants for Future page is using the terminology in a way that is not botanically correct. Nadiatalent ( talk) 13:13, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
Added some final-ish thoughts on the talk page. 86.** IP ( talk) 20:30, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
Fantastic job you've with this list; it's now a model of how to create useful food-related article without resorting to dubious sources (as so many such articles do). (I have fixed the two uses of "ibid" – it's really quite easy to do and much safer against additional refs changing the displayed order.)
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For your impressive overhaul of List of vegetable oils and for your persistent willingness to employ your learning for the betterment of the project, I award you this barnstar. Wikipedia needs more academics to invest in this world knowledge base, as you are doing. Neelix ( talk) 14:26, 2 November 2011 (UTC) |
Apparently (allegedly?) some U.S. legislative body recently decreed pizza to be a vegetable (because it has some tomato content), supposedly so that U.S. schools could serve pizza and claim they were giving kids fresh vegetables. (This leads to the joke that " meat and two veg is a healthy meal - an example would be a steak sandwiched between two slices of pizza"). I haven't bothered to research which parts of this rumour are actually true, but it's probably the explanation for the vandalism. -- Demiurge1000 ( talk) 03:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
I think what you've done with the vegetable oils list can serve as a reasonable model for this list, and I wouldn't advise keeping this list much simpler than that one in terms of style. You don't want a situation where someone says the list isn't at the level of the vegetable oils list, since that's the most obvious comparison. The big question in my mind is whether someone will ask to have the list in table form. You'll need to make a decision on the list's style and be prepared to justify it at FLC. I think the vegetable oils style works, but I'm only one reviewer/director. If you're uncertain, you could always go to peer review and ask for others' opinions on the subject. However, I encourage you strongly to try bringing the culinary nuts list to FL. The vegetable oils list is the only current food and drink FL, and that portion of WP:FL is rather deserted. It would be great to fill it up a little! Giants2008 ( Talk) 02:41, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again for this-- two thoughts to consider. How about Butternut (tree)?? And consider repeating the hazelnut comment ("Several other species are edible, but not commercially cultivated to any significant extent.") under hickories? Or does 'edible' imply 'palatable' here? Araucana ( talk) 23:13, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
I finally figured out one of my concerns: walnuts and hickories ARE TRUE nuts, not drupes, according to my Plant Taxonomy textbook (Porter, albeit 1967). They will need to be moved, and we probably need to rewrite the definitions at the beginning for clarification. I need to run now, but will get back to you or attempt an edit later today. Also, check on Kola-- that picture makes it look wrong for "true nut" definition. See [4] in the meantime, it might be helpful. Thanks for all your patience with this article, Waitak! Araucana ( talk) 16:19, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
It's worse than I thought, and I'm dropping my objection; drupe does seem to be widely used for walnuts these days. I think (with Porter) that it hinges on whether the outer husk is ovary wall or hypanthium. Took the question up with botanist friends, one of whom found a good historical review that demonstrates the confusion but fails to resolve the botanical question. I posted the link and selected quotes in User:Araucana/sandbox so as not to add too much garbage here if you want to take a look. Keep up the good work!! Araucana ( talk) 15:25, 9 December 2011 (UTC)