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Thank you so much for your thoughtful input on the page. I'm learning, as you can tell. I'd like to share my thinking on the COI issue, just so that you know where I was coming from and you don't attribute nefarious motives to me :}. I should get points for using "nefarious", I think :)
Anyway, I learned about John when I watched him perform & we had a conversation. His life experiences & accomplishments were so interesting that I wanted to offer them for free on my website essenceofitaly.net. I did so by creating podcasts of interviews with him. I don't have a commercial relationship with John; the podcasts and the written transcripts of them are available on my site for free. I like promoting Italian culture and letting people know about accomplished, interesting Italians & Italian-Americans, like John. It was in that spirit that I created his page and added links to the podcasts on my site.
I understand and accept Wiki's policies in this area, so this is not presented as an argument. I just wanted to let you in on my thought process.
I agree with you that it reads like a resume. I'll continue to work on it. Thanks again for your professionalism in pointing out where I need to improve. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanderson ( talk • contribs) 17:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your hard work. :-) Actually Huberdeau was already on the mainpage a few days ago but thank you for the thought. I'm going to go ahead and nominate Flora Perini, Cesira Ferrani, Giuseppe Cremonini, and Rita Fornia for DYKS. I'll add you to the credits too because of the photos, etc. If you think of any good hooks let me know. Also, I recently did an overhaul of Thomas Arne if you want to take a look at it. Cheers. Nrswanson ( talk) 15:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
... that although opera singer Rita Fornia began her career as a coloratura soprano, her voice soon lowered and darkened causing her to sing mostly mezzo-soprano roles?
If you have any suggestions let me know. Obviously we can't use the fair use images on the main page. But if you find any free ones we could suggest those or if you think of any better hooks let me know. Cheers. Nrswanson ( talk) 11:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your assistance with the Prima Donna article. I want the article to be as good as possible, so please continue keeping an eye on it. Thanks again! Whataworld06 ( talk) 14:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I have read you have reverted a few article titles I had previously redirected, and I would like very much to catch the criteria you will use in naming articles.
For instance, I have verified there exists an article named "Greta Garbo", and only a redirecting to Greta Garbo if one searches for Greta Lovisa Gustafsson. I also verified there exists another article named "Marilyn Monroe", and not even a redirecting to that article if one searches for Marilyn's baptism name "Norma Jean Baker". Or, furthermore, if we want to stay in the field of opera, I have found an article named "Maria Callas" and not even a redirecting from her baptism name "Sofia Cecelia Kalos".
If all that is true, I do well then wonder why there should be an article named after a thoroughly unknown (an actual Martian) "Manuel del Pópulo Vicente García", and no article named Manuel García, after the way the first protagonist of Almaviva, and Maria Malibran and Pauline Viardot's father used to call himself and to be called during his artistic life; and since he had also a son baptised Manuel Patricio Rodríguez García, but always referred to as Manuel García son, I wonder why there ought not to be an article bearing that name, and why the article related to his father ought not to be renamed "Manuel García father", the exact actual common term which has been in use for almost two centuries to refer to him.
As for Poliuto, since there exist two slightly different operas, Poliuto and Les martyrs, and only one article, named after Poliuto, I had felt perfectly correct to indicate by Poliuto's side also the title of its French version, which now remains without an article of its own (neither does my scarce knowledge about Donizetti allow me to create it myself).
Last, but not least, there comes the article "Tenor altino": this name is a queer mixture of English (tenor) and would-be Italian (altino, which could actually mean "fairly tall" or "not exceedingly tall", but whose meaning, anyway, has nothing at all in common with singing, for in Italy "alto" is not synonymous with contralto). In Wikipedia there already exist two voices and a half which employ both Italian terms ("tenore di grazia", "tenore robusto" and "spinto") and thus, as I had never heard or read of a type of singer named “tenor altino”, whereas in Italy we will certainly say “tenore contraltino” just to mean what Wikipedia calls “tenor altino”, I had thought it was not incorrect, nay opportune, to redirect the article. Of course, I don’t know English very well and if a significant usage of “tenor altino” is reported, your reversion seems, to me too, perfectly justified.
Thank you very much for the attention and best wishes of a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Jeanambr —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanambr ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for my rash move of the article Zaira; for the future I won't make any more move myself: should I feel a move expedient, I will previously ask you or bring it up on the Opera Opera Project discussion page. Ciao. Jeanambr ( talk) 16:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
My article concerning Gaetano Crivelli contains a link to the musician Giuseppe Nicolini, which, in fact, addresses to a different Giuseppe Nicolini that wasn't even a musician. I don't know how to redirect it correctly, could you please help me? Thanks. Con simpatia. Jeanambr ( talk) 21:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I took your warning about Leyla Pınar's picture. The Picture and her official website is belong to us :) There is not any copyright problem for us. If there is a problem about our artist's page I am ready for do what it takes. Thanks best regards
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyla_P%C4%B1nar —Preceding unsigned comment added by TRWebmaster ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore its ok. I changed the picture. I took this new picture with my camera. If I have to add any tag to page, you say me. I add. Thanks for your help and information. I wish a wonderfulyear for you. Best regards. -- TRWebmaster ( talk) 13:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore I am a webmaster of istanbulbarok.com I took Leylapinar.jpg picture from Leyla. Therefore when I was adding this picture to wikipedia I supposed the author is adder or other thing. But also for old picture there was not any problem. If you want you can ask the photographer. I corrected only a mistake with your notice. Because I did not take this old picture (Leylapinar.jpg) with my camera. I could add the older picture to istanbulbarok.com. But it takes more time of me.
Now, I changed the picture and I can give every guarantee for this picture. Thanks again. -- TRWebmaster ( talk) 15:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dravecky ( talk) 20:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Barawa book awards visit it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simpsons lover 909 ( talk • contribs) 09:43, 12 March 2009
Thanks for looking in on the page, and making some adjustments. I came across Danto's work just recently on the Florida State University's audio archives (check them out from the Danto wiki page). I discovered that his family sold recordings online, and have ended up having continued correspondence with his wife, Rouhama. She has looked at the page I wrote, and has given it her official approval, which is good news. I am hoping to get some allowable photos up there. Voicewisdom ( talk) 18:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I saw you deleted the category "Greco-Roman mythology in popular culture" from the Il ritorno d'Ulisse in Patria article. Quite right too. I was inspired to remove the same tag from Purcell's Dido and Æneas but was reverted with the summary "Of course opera is popular culture". Now, much as I would love that to be true I doubt that 17th century opera qualifies as "popular music". I've looked around Wikipedia and the phrase "in popular culture" seems to be everywhere and to apply to every conceivable work of art or entertainment. For instance, Absinthe in popular culture includes Van Gogh, Picasso, Baudelaire and Rimbaud. I imagine the expression "X in popular culture" has simply become a Wiki-cliché and has been applied in mechanical, bot-like fashion where the phrase "Cultural references to X" would be more appropriate. I remember back in the old days on Wikipedia "X in popular culture" simply meant "References to X in Pokemon". Maybe it's time for a crackdown. Cheers. -- Folantin ( talk) 11:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Great work. Valueyou ( talk)
I recently stumbled across this article: Oktavist. I have never heard the term before and in searching through various references found no mention of the term. Are you familiar with it at all? Nrswanson ( talk) 21:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
Do you happy with how the portal looks like now? Am I the only one who thinks that the portal looks “ugly” and so unorganized? I am very angry; I don’t know what to say. I don’t know what to do, say or think! Oh god, what you think we should do? I can’t undo back to the old format and that pissed me off! He has changed everything, it can’t be easy undone! I have cool down. Read the comment I wrote in Portal Opera talkpage, I have been thinking to revert back to the old format and articles, then all of us can discuss and see what we want to go from there. I will only revert if members agree with it. -
Jay (
talk)
15:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your kind words of appreciation of the work I put into Portal:Opera. Unfortunately, at this point I think it is best if I take a break from that portal and work on portal-improvement-drives where I know I can actually get those portals to featured quality status. It seems the editors currently active at this portal would rather turn it into the main page of a WikiProject, as opposed to the main page of a portal about the topic. Cirt ( talk) 10:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
When you reverted this page, you removed all the parent categories, including a couple which weren't part of the nc edit. I've restored them. -- Stepheng3 ( talk) 03:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I have translated the article Matteo Babini which I had created in the Italian Wikipedia (with a re-direction from Matteo Babbini): in fact, his baptism name ought to be Matteo Antonio either Babini or Babbini (I am not sure), and I found him cited in every possible combination, once even only Antonio Babini. Could you please arrange things yourself according to the English Wikipedia's guidelines? Many thanks. Jeanambr ( talk) 06:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
That's fine with me. If you still think the article should be delete you're of course more than welcome to try WP:AFD. We just have to restore articles deleted via PROD upon request. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 15:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for letting me know about the work. I am currently only finished cataloging the stage works up through 1770. The stage works between 1771-1776 still need to be added (May-day, or The Little Gipsy is from 1775). Its rather tedious work so I have been doing it in small chunks. There are roughly 20 more stage works to go. All of the other sections are complete. Cheers. Nrswanson ( talk) 20:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I have dealt with this. Kind regards, -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 21:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello Voceditenore, I am preparing an overhaul of Capilla Flamenca's page. As suggested by Wikipedia, I put it on my userpage first (as a subpage [10]. Since you are an experienced wikipedian, I would be very grateful if you could review it before I post it. Many thanks! PrimaVista ( talk) 16:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I've done some work on cleaning up the article on Marian Anderson. Would you mind looking it over and giving me some feedback. Thanks. Nrswanson ( talk) 21:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Very nice job with Portal:Opera/Selected anniversaries/March! To answer your question, yes, it will automatically rotate to the current month on March 1, that's the way I had set it up, at least :( ... And thank you very much for your kind words. Cirt ( talk) 10:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Dear friend, I beg you to excuse my boring impertinence, but I would dare to ask for your help again. I have enlarged the article “ Manuel García (tenor)”, also quoting from Celletti’s History of Belcanto (which you know and whose English version you ought to possess), and, since I am by no means able to correctly translate music specialized phraseology into English, I wonder whether you could be so kind as to rectify my quotation referring it directly to the English edition of the book and accordingly modifying it. The quotation is drawn from : IV [Rossini]. 3 [Tipi vocali rossiniani] - third note of the paragraph. I thank you very much in advance. Jeanambr ( talk) 18:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:La falena. It's probably that this is only one of many. Perhaps you would like to discuss this on the Opera Project? If there are many cases of Grove being copied straight into WP it will discredit all the work everybody has been doing. -- Klein zach 00:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Kleinzach, in future if you find any instances of copypaste or close paraphrasing from any source, please remove it immediately and briefly note the fact on the talk page or the edit summary rather than letting it sit there, or recopying the material to the talk page (which is not supposed to contain copyvio either). It's actually quicker and far safer to simply take out your metaphorical red pencil.;-) In the meantime, I'll post a general reminder about these issues on the OP talk page, or you can do it. The talk page is open to everyone.
Nrswanson, please go back and check all the articles you've created recently that are sourced to Grove. (I don't have access to Grove online or the hardcopy, so I can't do this myself.) You'll find this essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing very helpful. It's written by administrators who are very active in copyright issues, one of whom I've worked with several times in the past. If there is any doubt in your mind that the paraphrasing is too close, or you find instances where you have copy-pasted and forgotten to go back and fix it, remove the entire segment(s) immediately and fix them in a draft on your user pages. It's better to have a stub article than a copyright violation. The latter can bring you, and the whole opera project, into disrepute – even if it only happens through oversight, and even if it only happens occasionally.
Best to you both, Voceditenore ( talk) 06:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Is there something I can do to help you at User:Voceditenore/Close paraphrase (Grove). I could try and put together a list of articles that I have used Grove for. I'll try and fix things myself of course but I am sure other editors will want to check as well. Nrswanson ( talk) 18:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your helpful message left on Shoemaker's Holiday's talkpage. The elusive book is Dean & Knapp Vol 1 dealing with Handel's early operas. I have found material from the book on the web, and have incorporated it. Brianboulton ( talk) 18:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
This'll probably need some more work, but could you try out the following template for composer navboxes, and tell me if problems come up? It should - if I get it right - make making these templates much easier: {{ Composer navbox}} I'll work to add any and all features necessary. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 22:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
From Sellypaws: Voceditenore - Many thanks for your messages re Sarah Fox and Graeme Danby; but, as I wrote the source text in both instances, I doubt that there should be much of an issue in terms of copyright. I would be grateful if they could revert to what they were previously. I have removed the link to the Albion biography for Sarah Fox, as it is now over two years old. Many thanks. Dominic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sellypaws ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Someone just speedied this stub I just created. I would appriciate your input. Nrswanson ( talk) 16:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I've responded to you there. Short answer: Great work so far, there's two more FPs to use ( File:John Phillip Sousa - De Wolf Hopper - El Capitan1.png, File:Maritana - Nov 22 1845 Illustrated London News.png), but The Sorcerer and The Pirates of Penzance are just B-class, and if there's worries about G&S dominating too much, we can easily delay adding them for now: By the time they're GA or FA, we should have hopefully increased the number of GAs and FAs within the rest of the operatic field. =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 19:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Cirt, First, a technical question. The images from the following "selected articles" show up fine on the archive page. But when they are rotated into the portal, the bottom half of the image disappears:
Is there something I can do fix this? Second, could I take you up on your offer to create a "New Content" section. More about it here + the updates/expansions I've done recently. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 17:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
(above comment copied from User talk:Cirt to keep the conversation together. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC))
If you feel my changes would now be welcome at the portal I would be willing to reconsider helping to further improve it in-line with these ideas. Cirt ( talk) 00:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Your input on my Yamaha article is well-taken. I'm not attempting to do anything more than illustrate what this department has done. It is a known Public Assembly Venue and has a city permit as such. I'd be very interested to see how this piece can be rebuilt to conform to Wikipedia guidelines. Just the same, I have to protest the presence of the very self-serving article on Steinway (a principal competitor) which seems very much to cross the line of Wiki-propriety.
-- Jamesmarcus ( talk) 01:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why Steinway is an acceptable "encyclopedia" article. The article is a historical overview infused with propaganda. I really want to know why this remains in your (our) encyclopedia, when my rather banal article is seen as pure publicity.
The YASI article is one I re-wrote. It could certainly stand any number of re-writes, but it is not cutting and pasting, to any knowledge of mine. It'd be easy enough to write an entirely new article, straight from facts. Would this, too, be accused of a variant of plagiarism, on account of the topic? You must be fair in your editorial prowess ever as much as I must adhere to guidelines. But frankly, your ruling on this seems partially arbitrary.
My article on Disklavier (modified by others and killed once, because "editors" chose to copy material) is an article about about a product which has entered the common nomenclature. It's been peacefully allowed to represent that product until this recent purge. In the case of Yamaha Artist Services, Inc. I'd like you to explain what is being marketed. It is a known classical music venue and prized by artists. Please be clear about this claim, and please contrast it to Steinway. Explain why that is not a commercial. -- Jamesmarcus ( talk) 04:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You put the opera project banner on this article, but she didn't sing any grand opera, and most of her career wasn't even in musicals. It should probably come under the Theatre Project or some sub-project. All the best, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 14:59, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. There's a new editor who threw a lot of Victorian photos up with articles that said only: "So-and-so (date), an actor". I've tried to rescue some of them. The photos are nice, and most of the actors are likely notable, but it's a lot of work to rescue the articles on short notice! All the best, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 15:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
You left a note at Talk:National_Youth_Choir_of_Great_Britain stating you would merge all these various articles, including, I suppose, National Youth Training Choirs of Great Britain and National Youth Choirs of Great Britain (are there more?). Would you like to do so now so I won't have to? Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 01:13, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I edited his screed to remove the POV, but it still needs sources. Also did some work on the disambiguation page for Laudibus. Yours, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 16:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I've reverted to a version that seems the best, and I've added a comment to the ANI section. I suggest that for we try to keep it at that version or something similar, but I believe you are knowledgeable about opera and of course I'd be very pleased if you could improve the article further. Itsmejudith ( talk) 19:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there Voceditenore. I'm doing an interview about a WikiProject you are involved in - WikiProject Opera - and would like if you could contribute with an interview. If you would be willing to help, please answer the questions set out here. Thanks in advance! GARDEN 22:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Good month for opera, really: Interviews in the Signpost, a probable Featured portal, H.M.S. Pinafore about to hit FAC, and the Purcell push begins. Oh, and I think I've found a Falstaff FP. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 00:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to nominate it, however, I myself am boycotting FPC. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 16:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC) [response to [16]
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Thank you so much for your thoughtful input on the page. I'm learning, as you can tell. I'd like to share my thinking on the COI issue, just so that you know where I was coming from and you don't attribute nefarious motives to me :}. I should get points for using "nefarious", I think :)
Anyway, I learned about John when I watched him perform & we had a conversation. His life experiences & accomplishments were so interesting that I wanted to offer them for free on my website essenceofitaly.net. I did so by creating podcasts of interviews with him. I don't have a commercial relationship with John; the podcasts and the written transcripts of them are available on my site for free. I like promoting Italian culture and letting people know about accomplished, interesting Italians & Italian-Americans, like John. It was in that spirit that I created his page and added links to the podcasts on my site.
I understand and accept Wiki's policies in this area, so this is not presented as an argument. I just wanted to let you in on my thought process.
I agree with you that it reads like a resume. I'll continue to work on it. Thanks again for your professionalism in pointing out where I need to improve. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanderson ( talk • contribs) 17:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your hard work. :-) Actually Huberdeau was already on the mainpage a few days ago but thank you for the thought. I'm going to go ahead and nominate Flora Perini, Cesira Ferrani, Giuseppe Cremonini, and Rita Fornia for DYKS. I'll add you to the credits too because of the photos, etc. If you think of any good hooks let me know. Also, I recently did an overhaul of Thomas Arne if you want to take a look at it. Cheers. Nrswanson ( talk) 15:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
... that although opera singer Rita Fornia began her career as a coloratura soprano, her voice soon lowered and darkened causing her to sing mostly mezzo-soprano roles?
If you have any suggestions let me know. Obviously we can't use the fair use images on the main page. But if you find any free ones we could suggest those or if you think of any better hooks let me know. Cheers. Nrswanson ( talk) 11:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your assistance with the Prima Donna article. I want the article to be as good as possible, so please continue keeping an eye on it. Thanks again! Whataworld06 ( talk) 14:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
I have read you have reverted a few article titles I had previously redirected, and I would like very much to catch the criteria you will use in naming articles.
For instance, I have verified there exists an article named "Greta Garbo", and only a redirecting to Greta Garbo if one searches for Greta Lovisa Gustafsson. I also verified there exists another article named "Marilyn Monroe", and not even a redirecting to that article if one searches for Marilyn's baptism name "Norma Jean Baker". Or, furthermore, if we want to stay in the field of opera, I have found an article named "Maria Callas" and not even a redirecting from her baptism name "Sofia Cecelia Kalos".
If all that is true, I do well then wonder why there should be an article named after a thoroughly unknown (an actual Martian) "Manuel del Pópulo Vicente García", and no article named Manuel García, after the way the first protagonist of Almaviva, and Maria Malibran and Pauline Viardot's father used to call himself and to be called during his artistic life; and since he had also a son baptised Manuel Patricio Rodríguez García, but always referred to as Manuel García son, I wonder why there ought not to be an article bearing that name, and why the article related to his father ought not to be renamed "Manuel García father", the exact actual common term which has been in use for almost two centuries to refer to him.
As for Poliuto, since there exist two slightly different operas, Poliuto and Les martyrs, and only one article, named after Poliuto, I had felt perfectly correct to indicate by Poliuto's side also the title of its French version, which now remains without an article of its own (neither does my scarce knowledge about Donizetti allow me to create it myself).
Last, but not least, there comes the article "Tenor altino": this name is a queer mixture of English (tenor) and would-be Italian (altino, which could actually mean "fairly tall" or "not exceedingly tall", but whose meaning, anyway, has nothing at all in common with singing, for in Italy "alto" is not synonymous with contralto). In Wikipedia there already exist two voices and a half which employ both Italian terms ("tenore di grazia", "tenore robusto" and "spinto") and thus, as I had never heard or read of a type of singer named “tenor altino”, whereas in Italy we will certainly say “tenore contraltino” just to mean what Wikipedia calls “tenor altino”, I had thought it was not incorrect, nay opportune, to redirect the article. Of course, I don’t know English very well and if a significant usage of “tenor altino” is reported, your reversion seems, to me too, perfectly justified.
Thank you very much for the attention and best wishes of a merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Jeanambr —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanambr ( talk • contribs) 23:59, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for my rash move of the article Zaira; for the future I won't make any more move myself: should I feel a move expedient, I will previously ask you or bring it up on the Opera Opera Project discussion page. Ciao. Jeanambr ( talk) 16:17, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
My article concerning Gaetano Crivelli contains a link to the musician Giuseppe Nicolini, which, in fact, addresses to a different Giuseppe Nicolini that wasn't even a musician. I don't know how to redirect it correctly, could you please help me? Thanks. Con simpatia. Jeanambr ( talk) 21:48, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I took your warning about Leyla Pınar's picture. The Picture and her official website is belong to us :) There is not any copyright problem for us. If there is a problem about our artist's page I am ready for do what it takes. Thanks best regards
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyla_P%C4%B1nar —Preceding unsigned comment added by TRWebmaster ( talk • contribs) 11:51, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore its ok. I changed the picture. I took this new picture with my camera. If I have to add any tag to page, you say me. I add. Thanks for your help and information. I wish a wonderfulyear for you. Best regards. -- TRWebmaster ( talk) 13:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Voceditenore I am a webmaster of istanbulbarok.com I took Leylapinar.jpg picture from Leyla. Therefore when I was adding this picture to wikipedia I supposed the author is adder or other thing. But also for old picture there was not any problem. If you want you can ask the photographer. I corrected only a mistake with your notice. Because I did not take this old picture (Leylapinar.jpg) with my camera. I could add the older picture to istanbulbarok.com. But it takes more time of me.
Now, I changed the picture and I can give every guarantee for this picture. Thanks again. -- TRWebmaster ( talk) 15:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Dravecky ( talk) 20:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Barawa book awards visit it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simpsons lover 909 ( talk • contribs) 09:43, 12 March 2009
Thanks for looking in on the page, and making some adjustments. I came across Danto's work just recently on the Florida State University's audio archives (check them out from the Danto wiki page). I discovered that his family sold recordings online, and have ended up having continued correspondence with his wife, Rouhama. She has looked at the page I wrote, and has given it her official approval, which is good news. I am hoping to get some allowable photos up there. Voicewisdom ( talk) 18:50, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I saw you deleted the category "Greco-Roman mythology in popular culture" from the Il ritorno d'Ulisse in Patria article. Quite right too. I was inspired to remove the same tag from Purcell's Dido and Æneas but was reverted with the summary "Of course opera is popular culture". Now, much as I would love that to be true I doubt that 17th century opera qualifies as "popular music". I've looked around Wikipedia and the phrase "in popular culture" seems to be everywhere and to apply to every conceivable work of art or entertainment. For instance, Absinthe in popular culture includes Van Gogh, Picasso, Baudelaire and Rimbaud. I imagine the expression "X in popular culture" has simply become a Wiki-cliché and has been applied in mechanical, bot-like fashion where the phrase "Cultural references to X" would be more appropriate. I remember back in the old days on Wikipedia "X in popular culture" simply meant "References to X in Pokemon". Maybe it's time for a crackdown. Cheers. -- Folantin ( talk) 11:54, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Great work. Valueyou ( talk)
I recently stumbled across this article: Oktavist. I have never heard the term before and in searching through various references found no mention of the term. Are you familiar with it at all? Nrswanson ( talk) 21:06, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi,
Do you happy with how the portal looks like now? Am I the only one who thinks that the portal looks “ugly” and so unorganized? I am very angry; I don’t know what to say. I don’t know what to do, say or think! Oh god, what you think we should do? I can’t undo back to the old format and that pissed me off! He has changed everything, it can’t be easy undone! I have cool down. Read the comment I wrote in Portal Opera talkpage, I have been thinking to revert back to the old format and articles, then all of us can discuss and see what we want to go from there. I will only revert if members agree with it. -
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15:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your kind words of appreciation of the work I put into Portal:Opera. Unfortunately, at this point I think it is best if I take a break from that portal and work on portal-improvement-drives where I know I can actually get those portals to featured quality status. It seems the editors currently active at this portal would rather turn it into the main page of a WikiProject, as opposed to the main page of a portal about the topic. Cirt ( talk) 10:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
When you reverted this page, you removed all the parent categories, including a couple which weren't part of the nc edit. I've restored them. -- Stepheng3 ( talk) 03:56, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I have translated the article Matteo Babini which I had created in the Italian Wikipedia (with a re-direction from Matteo Babbini): in fact, his baptism name ought to be Matteo Antonio either Babini or Babbini (I am not sure), and I found him cited in every possible combination, once even only Antonio Babini. Could you please arrange things yourself according to the English Wikipedia's guidelines? Many thanks. Jeanambr ( talk) 06:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
That's fine with me. If you still think the article should be delete you're of course more than welcome to try WP:AFD. We just have to restore articles deleted via PROD upon request. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 15:34, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Thanks for letting me know about the work. I am currently only finished cataloging the stage works up through 1770. The stage works between 1771-1776 still need to be added (May-day, or The Little Gipsy is from 1775). Its rather tedious work so I have been doing it in small chunks. There are roughly 20 more stage works to go. All of the other sections are complete. Cheers. Nrswanson ( talk) 20:01, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I have dealt with this. Kind regards, -- Malcolmxl5 ( talk) 21:04, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Hello Voceditenore, I am preparing an overhaul of Capilla Flamenca's page. As suggested by Wikipedia, I put it on my userpage first (as a subpage [10]. Since you are an experienced wikipedian, I would be very grateful if you could review it before I post it. Many thanks! PrimaVista ( talk) 16:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I've done some work on cleaning up the article on Marian Anderson. Would you mind looking it over and giving me some feedback. Thanks. Nrswanson ( talk) 21:41, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Very nice job with Portal:Opera/Selected anniversaries/March! To answer your question, yes, it will automatically rotate to the current month on March 1, that's the way I had set it up, at least :( ... And thank you very much for your kind words. Cirt ( talk) 10:55, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Dear friend, I beg you to excuse my boring impertinence, but I would dare to ask for your help again. I have enlarged the article “ Manuel García (tenor)”, also quoting from Celletti’s History of Belcanto (which you know and whose English version you ought to possess), and, since I am by no means able to correctly translate music specialized phraseology into English, I wonder whether you could be so kind as to rectify my quotation referring it directly to the English edition of the book and accordingly modifying it. The quotation is drawn from : IV [Rossini]. 3 [Tipi vocali rossiniani] - third note of the paragraph. I thank you very much in advance. Jeanambr ( talk) 18:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
See Talk:La falena. It's probably that this is only one of many. Perhaps you would like to discuss this on the Opera Project? If there are many cases of Grove being copied straight into WP it will discredit all the work everybody has been doing. -- Klein zach 00:05, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Kleinzach, in future if you find any instances of copypaste or close paraphrasing from any source, please remove it immediately and briefly note the fact on the talk page or the edit summary rather than letting it sit there, or recopying the material to the talk page (which is not supposed to contain copyvio either). It's actually quicker and far safer to simply take out your metaphorical red pencil.;-) In the meantime, I'll post a general reminder about these issues on the OP talk page, or you can do it. The talk page is open to everyone.
Nrswanson, please go back and check all the articles you've created recently that are sourced to Grove. (I don't have access to Grove online or the hardcopy, so I can't do this myself.) You'll find this essay Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing very helpful. It's written by administrators who are very active in copyright issues, one of whom I've worked with several times in the past. If there is any doubt in your mind that the paraphrasing is too close, or you find instances where you have copy-pasted and forgotten to go back and fix it, remove the entire segment(s) immediately and fix them in a draft on your user pages. It's better to have a stub article than a copyright violation. The latter can bring you, and the whole opera project, into disrepute – even if it only happens through oversight, and even if it only happens occasionally.
Best to you both, Voceditenore ( talk) 06:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Is there something I can do to help you at User:Voceditenore/Close paraphrase (Grove). I could try and put together a list of articles that I have used Grove for. I'll try and fix things myself of course but I am sure other editors will want to check as well. Nrswanson ( talk) 18:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your helpful message left on Shoemaker's Holiday's talkpage. The elusive book is Dean & Knapp Vol 1 dealing with Handel's early operas. I have found material from the book on the web, and have incorporated it. Brianboulton ( talk) 18:02, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
This'll probably need some more work, but could you try out the following template for composer navboxes, and tell me if problems come up? It should - if I get it right - make making these templates much easier: {{ Composer navbox}} I'll work to add any and all features necessary. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 22:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
From Sellypaws: Voceditenore - Many thanks for your messages re Sarah Fox and Graeme Danby; but, as I wrote the source text in both instances, I doubt that there should be much of an issue in terms of copyright. I would be grateful if they could revert to what they were previously. I have removed the link to the Albion biography for Sarah Fox, as it is now over two years old. Many thanks. Dominic —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sellypaws ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
Someone just speedied this stub I just created. I would appriciate your input. Nrswanson ( talk) 16:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I've responded to you there. Short answer: Great work so far, there's two more FPs to use ( File:John Phillip Sousa - De Wolf Hopper - El Capitan1.png, File:Maritana - Nov 22 1845 Illustrated London News.png), but The Sorcerer and The Pirates of Penzance are just B-class, and if there's worries about G&S dominating too much, we can easily delay adding them for now: By the time they're GA or FA, we should have hopefully increased the number of GAs and FAs within the rest of the operatic field. =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 19:10, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Cirt, First, a technical question. The images from the following "selected articles" show up fine on the archive page. But when they are rotated into the portal, the bottom half of the image disappears:
Is there something I can do fix this? Second, could I take you up on your offer to create a "New Content" section. More about it here + the updates/expansions I've done recently. Best, Voceditenore ( talk) 17:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
(above comment copied from User talk:Cirt to keep the conversation together. Voceditenore ( talk) 13:33, 7 April 2009 (UTC))
If you feel my changes would now be welcome at the portal I would be willing to reconsider helping to further improve it in-line with these ideas. Cirt ( talk) 00:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Your input on my Yamaha article is well-taken. I'm not attempting to do anything more than illustrate what this department has done. It is a known Public Assembly Venue and has a city permit as such. I'd be very interested to see how this piece can be rebuilt to conform to Wikipedia guidelines. Just the same, I have to protest the presence of the very self-serving article on Steinway (a principal competitor) which seems very much to cross the line of Wiki-propriety.
-- Jamesmarcus ( talk) 01:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Please explain why Steinway is an acceptable "encyclopedia" article. The article is a historical overview infused with propaganda. I really want to know why this remains in your (our) encyclopedia, when my rather banal article is seen as pure publicity.
The YASI article is one I re-wrote. It could certainly stand any number of re-writes, but it is not cutting and pasting, to any knowledge of mine. It'd be easy enough to write an entirely new article, straight from facts. Would this, too, be accused of a variant of plagiarism, on account of the topic? You must be fair in your editorial prowess ever as much as I must adhere to guidelines. But frankly, your ruling on this seems partially arbitrary.
My article on Disklavier (modified by others and killed once, because "editors" chose to copy material) is an article about about a product which has entered the common nomenclature. It's been peacefully allowed to represent that product until this recent purge. In the case of Yamaha Artist Services, Inc. I'd like you to explain what is being marketed. It is a known classical music venue and prized by artists. Please be clear about this claim, and please contrast it to Steinway. Explain why that is not a commercial. -- Jamesmarcus ( talk) 04:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You put the opera project banner on this article, but she didn't sing any grand opera, and most of her career wasn't even in musicals. It should probably come under the Theatre Project or some sub-project. All the best, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 14:59, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. There's a new editor who threw a lot of Victorian photos up with articles that said only: "So-and-so (date), an actor". I've tried to rescue some of them. The photos are nice, and most of the actors are likely notable, but it's a lot of work to rescue the articles on short notice! All the best, -- Ssilvers ( talk) 15:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
You left a note at Talk:National_Youth_Choir_of_Great_Britain stating you would merge all these various articles, including, I suppose, National Youth Training Choirs of Great Britain and National Youth Choirs of Great Britain (are there more?). Would you like to do so now so I won't have to? Sincerely, your friend, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 01:13, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I edited his screed to remove the POV, but it still needs sources. Also did some work on the disambiguation page for Laudibus. Yours, GeorgeLouis ( talk) 16:32, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I've reverted to a version that seems the best, and I've added a comment to the ANI section. I suggest that for we try to keep it at that version or something similar, but I believe you are knowledgeable about opera and of course I'd be very pleased if you could improve the article further. Itsmejudith ( talk) 19:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there Voceditenore. I'm doing an interview about a WikiProject you are involved in - WikiProject Opera - and would like if you could contribute with an interview. If you would be willing to help, please answer the questions set out here. Thanks in advance! GARDEN 22:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Good month for opera, really: Interviews in the Signpost, a probable Featured portal, H.M.S. Pinafore about to hit FAC, and the Purcell push begins. Oh, and I think I've found a Falstaff FP. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 00:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Feel free to nominate it, however, I myself am boycotting FPC. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 16:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC) [response to [16]
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