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Category:Travelers in Asia Minor has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason ( talk) 04:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
In addition to this edit's
[1] undue emphasis on old studies from the 1970s and 1980s, I also noticed this: (Songbird Survival) noted on its website in 2006 that "cats are frequently singled out as the primary reason for the disappearance of Britain's songbirds" and described the claim as unjustified. It decried the absence of numbers for cat predation on birds from the 1997 survey by the Mammal Society, and drew a comparison between the figure of 55 million birds killed annually by UK's suggested 9–10 million cats, derived from an estimate by
Cats Protection, and the 100 million birds preyed on by the 100,000-strong UK population of
sparrowhawks each year....
Did you really go back 20 years into their website's Internet Archive history to find this yourself? It looks like an attempt to discredit an organization's current views by posting apparently different views from decades ago, and that a lot of effort on your part apparently went into researching that.
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16:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
An observational study of five free-roaming farm cats carried out over 360 hours during the winter of 1978–79 in Cornwall....A WP:PRIMARY study of five cats over two weeks? In addition to being old, this is too small a sample group to take seriously.
The selection of prey species was reported as consistent with contemporary findings from New Zealand (1971–73), which concluded that birds were a minor food source for cats except in novel island habitatsis wrong, see the landmark 2013 paper in Nature [2].
The considerably lower degree of effort put in by inefficient hunters suggested that provision of "farm food reduced the need to hunt"is also wrong, some modern studies have found that feeding cats increases their hunting [3].
The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds points out that there is no scientific evidence for predation by cats to negatively affect bird populations in the country.is wrong because literature review I just mentioned said, that the negative effects of cats on wildlife is global in scope. Geogene ( talk) 04:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
I understand you probably like cats. I had one too. But bringing the content dispute to ANI and personalizing the dispute was a bad idea. I would suggest you to stop it, possibly apologize, and wait until the ANI thread will be automatically archived. Happy editing. My very best wishes ( talk) 00:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, I've been trying to help with this cat predation article and at this point am having trouble keeping up with the sheer speed at which text is being written. I was reading the talk page yesterday and it seemed to me like your position is fairly close to mine, and EducatedRedneck seems to agree with most of my thoughts. But then later you complain about them disagreeing with you all the time. Would you mind giving me a very short summary of your position regarding which facts are correct and how the article should be changed, so that I can better understand what's going on? Iamnotabunny ( talk) 14:27, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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Hi V, it's been nice agreeing so comprehensively with someone at Orlando Figes! I'm losing patience with the whole thing a little bit. I don't want to get into a whole dispute with MVBW, who I think is well-intentioned but also very over-zealous and dug into their position. I've tried to get some outside attention on the issue from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. I think it might be worth going to some relevant wiki-projects to get more eyes on the discussion, however I'm going to be much less online for a week or so. If you have the time and inclination to do so, I think that could help move us towards a productive resolution. If not, and things haven't improved by then, I will hopefully do it when I get back. Samuelshraga ( talk) 14:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Here are just a few very general things:
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Category:Travelers in Asia Minor has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mason ( talk) 04:21, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
In addition to this edit's
[1] undue emphasis on old studies from the 1970s and 1980s, I also noticed this: (Songbird Survival) noted on its website in 2006 that "cats are frequently singled out as the primary reason for the disappearance of Britain's songbirds" and described the claim as unjustified. It decried the absence of numbers for cat predation on birds from the 1997 survey by the Mammal Society, and drew a comparison between the figure of 55 million birds killed annually by UK's suggested 9–10 million cats, derived from an estimate by
Cats Protection, and the 100 million birds preyed on by the 100,000-strong UK population of
sparrowhawks each year....
Did you really go back 20 years into their website's Internet Archive history to find this yourself? It looks like an attempt to discredit an organization's current views by posting apparently different views from decades ago, and that a lot of effort on your part apparently went into researching that.
Geogene (
talk)
16:07, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
An observational study of five free-roaming farm cats carried out over 360 hours during the winter of 1978–79 in Cornwall....A WP:PRIMARY study of five cats over two weeks? In addition to being old, this is too small a sample group to take seriously.
The selection of prey species was reported as consistent with contemporary findings from New Zealand (1971–73), which concluded that birds were a minor food source for cats except in novel island habitatsis wrong, see the landmark 2013 paper in Nature [2].
The considerably lower degree of effort put in by inefficient hunters suggested that provision of "farm food reduced the need to hunt"is also wrong, some modern studies have found that feeding cats increases their hunting [3].
The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds points out that there is no scientific evidence for predation by cats to negatively affect bird populations in the country.is wrong because literature review I just mentioned said, that the negative effects of cats on wildlife is global in scope. Geogene ( talk) 04:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
I understand you probably like cats. I had one too. But bringing the content dispute to ANI and personalizing the dispute was a bad idea. I would suggest you to stop it, possibly apologize, and wait until the ANI thread will be automatically archived. Happy editing. My very best wishes ( talk) 00:27, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
Doug Weller. I noticed that you made a comment on the page
WP:ANI that didn't seem very
civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on
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Springee (
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21:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Hi, I've been trying to help with this cat predation article and at this point am having trouble keeping up with the sheer speed at which text is being written. I was reading the talk page yesterday and it seemed to me like your position is fairly close to mine, and EducatedRedneck seems to agree with most of my thoughts. But then later you complain about them disagreeing with you all the time. Would you mind giving me a very short summary of your position regarding which facts are correct and how the article should be changed, so that I can better understand what's going on? Iamnotabunny ( talk) 14:27, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
* '''Comment'''
for this.
Hi V, it's been nice agreeing so comprehensively with someone at Orlando Figes! I'm losing patience with the whole thing a little bit. I don't want to get into a whole dispute with MVBW, who I think is well-intentioned but also very over-zealous and dug into their position. I've tried to get some outside attention on the issue from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography. I think it might be worth going to some relevant wiki-projects to get more eyes on the discussion, however I'm going to be much less online for a week or so. If you have the time and inclination to do so, I think that could help move us towards a productive resolution. If not, and things haven't improved by then, I will hopefully do it when I get back. Samuelshraga ( talk) 14:28, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Here are just a few very general things: