A barnstar in appreciation of the "little things" (pun intended on your user page) that you fixed on Tamil language-related pages. Wish you continue to contribute with the same spirit. -- Sundar 05:26, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
Great work on Tamil language, Arvind. Can you take care of the objections on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tamil language till Tuesday when I return back here? Thanks. -- Sundar 12:54, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
- A special word of thanks, though insifficient, to you, Arvind. Thanks are also due to Taxman for his constructive comments. --
Sundar 04:56, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
Arvind, I'd already made this request in Raul's talk page. May be, you can add your support there, so that he'll be reminded of the request. He's the one who decides the featured article for a particular day. -- Sundar 04:55, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, are you aware that someone has nominated Tamil people for FAC? Please register your vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tamil people. Btw, there is some recent activity in ta:. If you've some time to spend, you can contribute there. Particularly, I seek your help in translating a couple of section in the Tamil article there. Also, I noticed your correction of the translation. I was looking for this word "kin", but didn't strike me. -- Sundar ( talk · contribs) 10:39, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Arvind, if you haven't noticed, Tamil people is now a FA. Btw, a minor suggestion: though I understand that you mark most of your edits as "minor" on account of humility, I would suggest that you do so only for typo edits and the like. Because, marking edits that others might want to look at/verify as minor is sometimes frowned upon by some people. Thanks. -- Sundar 04:12, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Noticed your response at Talk:Tamil people. Hope you edit here at least occasionally and possibly at the Tamil Wikipedia too. :-) -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 17:15, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
--- Pamri • Talk • Reply 06:59, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your clarification on my talk page. Does that mean that the en:Parsi page's link to nn:Parsarar needs to be changed? (some stub in-between to clarify?)
Just a thought... -- Fullstop 20:31, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
excuse me ,i have given a apt discussion before editting periayr,i wish you would read and not blindly revert all edits.
what exactly do you mean by telling many buddhists are aethists?do you have sources to support that?even if there is,what is the definiton of a buddhists?one who believes in the followings of "lord Buddha".which runs exactly anti parallel to the definiton of aethism.and i am sorry to say this that the great thanthai periyar was just another hoodwinking politician who acted in many paronoid ways to get notice for his party.and it is evident that he was only an anti hindu,and not anti-god.if he was anti-god,he would have taken a strong offensive stand against all religions,but that would nullify his vote bank,so he did this,in fact they say he was anti upper caste,but he did nothing to uplift dalits,because he spoke nothing against the real oppresors the thevars and the nayaks. I also apologise for my unruly language used in my earlier discussions,please pardon me,i will not repeat it. i also read ur discussion on periyars page and your explanation and i am sure ,you will put up the article you had promised. -- Jayanthv86 18:25, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
i have wikified the Rani Mangammal page,but there are a lot of names which you can write about and expand,so please look into it.-- Jayanthv86 04:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Glad that you've made amends to Tamil language article. Most of the issues raised by an anon at Talk:Tamil language have been addressed. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
OK, Arvind. I'll take care. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 13:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Arvind, In this edit, you'd referred (Hart 1975), but the citation is missing. Can you please add that? Also, the citation would be useful in a related discussion at Talk:List of English words of Tamil origin. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I changed what I think was biased writing on the article about Black July, could you have a look at its discussion page? Ulflarsen 16:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you wanted to form one. I'm interested :) Kingsleyj 23:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Problemet er at jeg føler det virker svært pretensiøst å presentere seg som redaktør av wikipedia (jeg regner med du ville sagt redaktør i wikipedia), samtidig som jeg ikke ønsker å gjøre noe poeng av at jeg skriver bedre på bokmål enn på nynorsk. Det kunne vært løst simpelthen ved at man droppet vedhenget "..., og behersker bokmål/nynorsk" på henholdsvis Template:user_nb og Template:user_nn. De som er interessert i distinksjonen, vil oppfatte forskjellen mellom "brukeren" og "brukaren". For meg har den nåværende utformingen av Template:user_nb og Template:user_nn en smak av norsk språkstrid, og derfor ønsker jeg ikke å bruke dem. Samtidig ønsker jeg ikke å presentere meg som redaktør. -- vibo56 09:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Your inputs could be valuable at Talk:Languages of India#Cleanup. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 13:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Arvind, The article will survive the deletion (with all the keeps). So I will not comment on it. Thanks for the update. - Ganeshk ( talk) 03:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Good for you, for making the change to the introduction. And by the way, congratulations on taking the intellectual leap of splitting the long paragraph into two! Definitely an improvement. Credmond 21:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
User Vadakkan had vadalised the discussion page by shoving 3 differnet arguments by three differet users under one topic deleting the original sub headings of the arguments and replacing them with his own sub heading. Thus making it difficult for the user who initiated the topic to find it! This is not allowed in the discussion page.Please refrain from valdalising or you will be reported! Further if you like to experiment you can use the sand box! Thanks 172.130.231.48 19:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
'Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ' - Ron - 04:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Can you please refer to [1] and offer your comments to solve a minor dispute in the Carnatic music article? Much appreciated. - Parthi 23:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Can you comment on my inline questions here? -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I am in ur camp brother, creation is always very much better and then edit, you defend your work and improve it. Case in point the State terrorism in Sri Lanka. AFD is in and I am proud and relived that it began as a shameless piece of propaganda into article worth keeping. Thanks for you input in the discussion page RaveenS
I have tried to organise this project and created the categories and stub templates suggested by the project template, however there has been a proposal to merge Classical Tamil category with the Tamil literature category. I think it would be better if we make this project include all Tamil literature rather than just 'Classical Tamil literature' we could do better. Perhaps we should rename the project Wikiproject:Tamil literature.
Also I would like to see some more input from other editors in this project. - Parthi 22:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey there, I was going through the new cases at WP:MEDCAB and I noticed that you are already mediating LTTE, which was listed as a case needed a moderator. I changed the case to "open" since you have it. Let me know if this was in error. Thanks! -- Aguerriero ( talk) 01:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your commitment to WP:NPOV regarding the LTTE article. Addhoc 17:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, After a long time, I have completed the Kaveri_River_Water_Dispute article in some shape and form. Most importantly, I've added some refs. Can you please take a look at the article and let me know if there are any glaring POV or anything that has the potential to be seen as POV. If you find anything, please let me know and I will add refs. Also the refs I've already added need some cleanup. Can you help me with this. I only know to add refs the 'plain vanilla' way. Also, while I've added refs for most of the controversial or potentially controversial portions, some parts of the article is still unreferenced. I will add it in due course. For all the above reasons, I've still left the underconstruction tag on. Once I get feedback from you, I'll remove it. I'll also make this request to few other editors, so that we minimise any risk of edit warring on that article. Thanks. Sarvagnya 23:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Arvind,
Stand of the two govts: I do not know when you last saw the article. But I made some changes after I posted my prev message to you asking you to take a look. Basically, I've gone into the main grouses of both governments in the introduction part that I added. Please take a look at it and if there is something missing, feel free to add it. Only thing is, if you are going to go into the nitty gritty of their grouses, I suggest you do it under a dedicated section. I think its better to keep the intro as brief as possible.
River Dispute Principles: That info is contained in one of the pdfs I've put in the references also I think. I wanted to add that myself but because of the technical nature of the subject, I found it a little difficult to summarise fairly without ommitting anything. Anyway, if you want to volunteer to do it, please go ahead. Once again the only request is, make sure that its presence doesnt take the focus away from the dispute which is central to the article. Infact, I am not sure, but I think I had seen an article on WP about the subject. Cant seem to find it now. If it is there, you could make use of it too.
Politics involved: I made a mention of this in the introduction I added after my previous message to you. But I agree that you can go over it in a section dedicated to it. I had also read about how winning in the kaveri districts has been vital for parties in both states.
wider context of the problem of water resources in India : imho: This one I am not so sure. In all fairness, it should certainly find a mention. But try to keep it as brief as possible.
Also, the section covering 2003-2006 needs to be expanded a bit and references added. If you can do that, fine. Or else leave it to me as I've done all the digging around for references already. I will do it in due course.
Thanks. Sarvagnya 07:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I believe you were making enquires about the Halmidi inscription. There exists a book by G.S. Gai (if i am not wrong) called Kadamba inscriptions. Gai was the chief Govt. epigraphist for ASI and he deciphered all the Kadabma inscriptions and wrote about it . You may find info on the Halmidi characters there, unless the book was written prior to the discovery of the halmidi inscription. I have now added Badami chalukya inscriptions from 6th and 8th centuries to the Kannada page. We had once discussed bringing out the evolution of the Kannada characters. This is a begining. Next year if/when I travel thru Hassan I shall make it a point to stop at Halmidi and photograph the prototype they have replaced the original with (in fibre glasss). In the meantime, enjoy the Chalukya inscriptions.
Dineshkannambadi
Arvind, the following is the message I left in User: Sunder's talk page and User:Venu62's talk page :
I find that two users Skris and Sarvagnya are reverting edits completely unreasonably. I have provided evidences from authentic sources and yet, they are pusing for their POV rather than being neutral and inclusive. The Carntic Music page has not progressed due to such unreasonable edits. The time put in to improve the article gets wasted. I don't know how to seek arbitration. I've already posted a copy of this in User Venu62 who had maintained objectivity in a tireless manner. Please advise.-- Aadal 05:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I have inserted extensive citations in the History of Tamil Nadu article. I think it is now in a state for a round of copyedit and review. If you could spare some time to go through this article, we can move towards peer review and then FAC. Appreciate your help - Parthi talk/ contribs 06:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Arvind, I apologise for bringing up one task or another for you. Please see what can be done to the mess that the article on Brahminical culture and Dravidians, whatever the title seeks to imply. This has been moved from the earlier Dravidians and Hinduism. I look forward to your cleanup help and comments. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 09:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Arvind, I had a good break during Deepavali. Had a look at your proposal; looks like it's a step in the right direction. While I'm no expert in this, I'll try to comment on each proposal based on what I feel. I've also requested comments from some knowledgeable Tamil Wikipedians. Let's arrive at something here. By the way, I liked the karpalagai metaphor. :) -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 06:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
On a totally unrelated note, you might find ta:எம்.ஜி.ஆர். கொலை முயற்சி வழக்கு, 1967 interesting and given your background, you might help in getting us references to court papers and all. If you got some "pure Tamil" word suggestions for legal terms too, the article would benefit. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 09:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. I'm currently on Linux, so I'm just recalling from memory. If you're on windows, go to control panel -> settings -> languages -> select the check box corresponding to "script support for Thai, Indic, etc.," or something like that. It will install the appropriate packages if you insert your Windows installation CD at this point. However, on Linux I'm living with misrendered text. :( Some people have managed to tweak their system to render Tamil script correctly though. See if WP:COMPLEX or ta:Wikipedia:Font help helps. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your response on copyrights for Indian govt work. I am afraid I saw the response only today and have responded back. Shyamal 06:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, we may have been editing the India page at the same time and I probably inadvertently reverted some of the changes you made: unitary-->federal. Please make them again. Fowler&fowler 15:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on Hortus Malabaricus . :-) -- Deepak D'Souza ( talk • contribs) 05:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, Tamil language is in FARC. If we don't act together to fix perceived problems, it will lose the FA status. Please take a look.-- Aadal 13:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, THANK you so much! You being so much specific reference and elegantly steer clear of controversy! I don't know what will happen to Tamil language page, but some people are simply ruining it. So much more can be written (informative, neutral and non-partisan), but the actions of some of the editors who don't understand Tamil is hurting the chances of retaining FA. Greatly appreciate your input and help.-- Aadal 16:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Happy New Year Arvind! Please take a look at the Tamil language FARC. We're not still there. We want to keep our FA in the new year! Tony has suggested that I try and book you and Sundar for a few hours. I'll seek extra time. I tried to solicit help from the league of copyeditors as well. There are only a few tags and I believe I can fix them. Sorry to bother you when you're busy !-- Aadal 19:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, thanks for posting a request on India noticeboard.-- Aadal 21:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
romanisation of tamil-- Ravishankar 10:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Please see this. The copyright status of couple of the images you uploaded has been questioned. Parthi talk/ contribs 00:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Boy, you really nailed the issue! Thanks dude, I appreciate that you understood what I was trying to do and let me and others know it too! I mean it - the issue and the bickering kinda fuzzed out my brain for a bit. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 17:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, Your timing couldn't be better. I was just putting together an article on the sources of ancient tamil history. I had collected epigraphic and numismatic data, and was about to expand the archaeological section. The link and the paper you provided seem quite informative and will prove more than handy. Thanks. Lotlil 21:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Some books listed under the references section of the Tamil language article are not cited inline. Could you have a look as to where they need to be cited or if they can be removed? I think some of them can be used in the grammar section. For example, the statement on uriccol could use "Kāṅkēyar (1840). Uriccol nikaṇṭurai. Putuvai, Kuveṟaṉmā Accukkūṭam". -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 06:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes I need to upload into commons, along with about 400 other images (mostly architecture/Kannada inscriptions related).:) Dineshkannambadi 00:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Do you think this is a correct characterisation? -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 05:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I don't know if you noticed, Chennai is currently being reviewed for being delisted, at FAR. Please take a look at the article when you get a chance. Thanks. Lotlil 14:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Sundar, thank you for your comments on Talk:Tolkāppiyam, which I really appreciate very much, but it's not worth making an issue of. Leave it be. And thanks again for your support. -- Arvind 17:01, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Arvind/Vadakkan: Thanks for the Pancha Marapu edit to restore it to regular status and for supplying matter from Zvelebil and Ramanathan. perichandra1 15:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd prefer Sangattamil. But, I don't know what Wiki policy recommends. Classical Tamil, I'm afraid, might be misunderstood by some and Old Tamil doesn't sound like a name. :-) Whatever name you write it under, I'm looking forward to the article. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 04:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
As a native speaker, I've never realised the nature of info provided by this verb marker. Good to know this. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Arvind Please see this threat by one wikiuser: [ [2]] Is this the way Wiki operates. I thought I should report this to Wiki admin. I have tried to edit and then when reverted gave extensive arguments to support my edits. What does one do in this case? perichandra1 19:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, Since you have already commented a number of times in the RfC on other people's comments, I thought it might be a good idea to register your own comments formally under your own name. I think it will help to have your arguments all in one place, rather than as addenda to other people's comments. Thanks! Also, in the brief snatches of time I could find today, I've managed to update the Toda people article a little. Regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 18:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for taking part in the discussion. I've been trying to make it clear to those two editors (Tulu War and Dayaanjali) that Malayalam originated from Old Tamil (or Proto-Tamil-Malayalam) for a long time. They think that Malayalam has nothing to do with Tamil and that it hasn't originated from Tamil at all. -- vi5in [talk] 00:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank u very much. Taprobanus 22:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The toponymic analysis of Mylanthanai has now been included. Its meaning is trivial when you consider its old Sinhalese name. Bodhi dhana ( talk) 06:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
How do I transfer pics that are in the Tamilpedia to English section? Thanks Taprobanus 16:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I was pleasantly surprised to hear from you on the "paharia women" image talk page. I have replied there. Thanks! Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
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For your tireless effort in providing Tamil place names for English articles Taprobanus 21:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
Thanks for weighing in on the image issue. I was thinking of pinging you myself but left in a hurry on thursday. As for the issue of the watermark, which you seem to think is irrelevant... well.. my argument is a little more nuanced than I could manage to present that day. My basic question/argument is this - assuming that it is indeed a watermarked copy of a faithful reproduction of the original and not a photograph of a photograph, does not the watermarking amount to the 'creation' of a new photograph? Butseriously says that it doesnt. What do you think? Because if it does, then the copyright well and truly belongs to BL as in fact, they explicitly claim.
Another point which I'm trying to get clarification for has to do with the date of publication. Since the couple of pd tags that have been discussed on that talk page hinge on the date of publication, do you think we should be a little more careful in not equating the date of creation and the date of publication. Agreed, that the two may not be very different in most cases, but I feel that the point needs to be considered and factored into policy.. if it hasnt already. Or if policy already has considered it, would you be able to shed light about how that was achieved or just simply any relevant thoughts on it. Thanks. More later. Sarvagnya 23:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello Watchdogb. I notice you've tagged Kalmunai massacre and Sri Lankan Civil War as requiring Tamil text. This tag is usually applied when, for example, an article about a Tamil place, person, film, book or some such thing does not have his / her / its name in Tamil script (or where they're mentioned in an article in a context that requires their name to be provided in Tamil script). Looking at these articles, I'm not sure exactly what they lack the Tamil script for. Could you let me know exactly what you're looking for, so I can try to add it? -- Arvind 09:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Do you have (or could you make) a higher res image of Image:Parsi wedding portrait with Dastur MN Dhalla.jpg? Specifically, the picture of Dhalla (for the Maneckji Nusserwanji Dhalla article)? Thanks. -- Fullstop 18:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I want to create a list of Kings based on the infor box kings used by the Ganga dynasty article for Jaffna Kingdom article that I am developing. Can you help to locate the source code for that template please ? Thanks Taprobanus 00:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
As my talk page says, am on a break and will be on a break for a few more weeks atleast. So I do not have the time to go through the article in detail, but simply looking at the overall organisation of the article, I must congratulate you on what appears like a thorough, professional job. Looks simply awesome. Trust you to polish it further in any way you see fit. More later.. once i am back from my break. Thanks and regards. Sarvagnya 12:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia' NOR guidlines there is no special preference given to a primary or secondary hence, I feel the primary sources should be kept along with the secondary, especially for the laws stated in the Constitution. Thanks. Knowledge Hegemony 15:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Featured or not, the article as it stands seems to me as the best summary on the subject. Congratulations. A picture of V P Menon could've made it "complete", but I couldn't find any free pic that we could use. Perhaps we should ask at the wishlist here for a hi-res version of the photo here. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, I'm sorta back and can spend a few hours a week. Please tell me if I can be of use. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 03:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
In the english language school text book published by Department of School Education, Government of Tamil Nadu, India [3], the title of the third chapter of the 10 grade social science book is "The First War of Indian Independence (Great Revolt of 1857) - End of East India Company's Rule" (please see: [4]). Looks like (and I hope) that the debate on title "First War of Independence" is now closed, but just wanted to let you know in case the debate pops up again and I may have to use this reference.
Thank You Desione ( talk) 05:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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For your extremely wise words at User_talk:Ncmvocalist#Please.2C_for_your_own_sake.21 - given by Spartaz Humbug! 13:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC), and fully endorsed by Ncmvocalist ( talk) 15:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC) |
Hi Arvind, I have to apologize for not getting around to doing some things I was supposed to (like getting some maps on WikiCommons and talking to my Urdu experts).
I'm feeling frustrated from all the fighting that lately seem to take place on whatever page I decide to edit. Speaking of which, could you take a look at the post I made on Dwaipayan's talk page? And give me some feedback? Thanks. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 07:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I have not come across that book, as I concentrate on the sub varity, I have the follwing book
About the flag, It is a generic flag, Vel festival is a festival held by the Kathiresan Temple in Bambalapitiya in Colombo. Number of other temples also participate such as the Bambalapitiya Pillaiyar Temple. These temples were established about 100 years ago by the Natukottai Chetties Taprobanus ( talk) 12:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Nilakana Sastri's book on Cholas (published in 1955) has section on their temple culture that was a precursor to Carnatic Music and Bharatanatyam. You should get it, if you already do not have it. Also the K. Indrapala's Evolution of an ethnic identity... puts it together as to how Chola Art forms directly lead to Bharatanatyam forms in sculptures in Sri Lanka. Indrapal quotes Nilakanta Sastri extensively. Taprobanus ( talk) 02:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC) copied from User_talk:Aadal to preserve the context
Sri Lankan Tamil people not done 100% if you have time Taprobanus ( talk) 23:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Arvind. Have incorporated the ref into the article, and posted a note on Ganesh's talk page informing him of the same. - Max - You were saying? 20:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
hi three / four people (or the same person using adjacent cabin computer?) (with user names similar to gaaaneshk, maaaximvsdecimvs, mmmmcm19 -user names altered to conceal their identity) think their view is A L W A Y S right, BUT NEVER HAVE THE GUTS TO SHOW VALID REFERENCES...but they delete VALID REFERENCED content from other users if it pricks their personal opinion...hope we monitor the changes that this cotery of lie mongerers propagate ...hoping for your cooperation..hope no one else has a shock of their life when misquotations are passed on as quotations!!! Ksense ( talk) 13:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
do you have an email? Sarvagnya 22:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note you left here. I have another question about the form or spelling of Karṇaṭaka. In Tamil, although not meaning the same, when one writes கருநாடகம் the n there is dental, d is retroflex and "k" is pronounced g. If the word is written as Karṇaṭaka, what would the meaning (in Skt? in Kannada?)? Sanskrit and Kannada both have all the letters - dental n, retroflex n, retroflex t and d, k and g. The Kannada word for country, I believe is naadu (correct me if I'm wrong), where the first letter n is dental and the other consonant is d and not t. There appears to be too many features of linguistic incongruence here in writing Karṇaṭaka (except that that is how it is written in Sanskrit). If Srinatha says "Karnata bhasha", it is neither Karṇaṭaka bhasha nor Kannada bhasha. What are the historical evidences that Karnata bhasha refers to the Kannada bhasha and not bhasha of the Karnataka region of the empire of his days (perhaps referring to Kannada and Telugu, or simply Telugu of the Karnataka region)? Thanks-- Aadal ( talk) 21:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
A user, Sarvagnya has nominated Chola dynasty in FAR. Would you please help? Thanks.
Chola Dynasty has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.
-- Aadal ( talk) 23:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Happy to see you save the day for Tamil. By the way, do you happen to have "Negotiations with the past : classical Tamil in contemporary Tamil"? I read the summary of this book in the French Institute of Pondicherry [5] catalogue. The summary says how "modern Tamil derives most of its vocabulary and syntax from Classical Tamil literature". If we get the actual quote inside the book, it would be helpful. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 11:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Dear Arvind, the Tamil wiki article on Bonobo was written by one Vendan Arasu (வேந்தன் அரசு இயற்பெயர் ராஜு ராஜேந்திரன்) from Ohio. I was following some trail that led to Sundar's page and then I landed here. I can't believe what will happen to Tamil-related pages on English Wiki without such wonderful contributions from you, Sundar and few other dedicated persons! Many Tamils would be grateful! When you get some time, please visit Tamil Wiki too and offer some of your valuable suggestions. Sundar had talked about you quite a few times. Regards -- C.R.Selvakumar ( talk) 20:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. We should produce the quotes from RS and get the lead rewritten in the Tamil language article. It's an eyesore now. I don't care if the dates get pushed forward or behind (after a decision by neutral people), but let this issue be resolved for once and the article look saner. Please see this discussion and help with quotes when you're back. Sorry that I'm not of much use here without access to most of those journals. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree that Sri Lankan Tamil nationalism needs its own page, but Indian Tamil nationalism and Sri Lankan Tamil nationalism are not two unconnected entities. There is a literature exploring the similarities and differences between the two, the extent to which the two influenced each other, and the extent to which they drew on a common past. To simply turn Tamil nationalism into a disambiguation page ignores all of this. Also note that the Tamil wikipedia itself has a substantive article at its equivalent page, ta:தமிழ்த் தேசியம். -- Arvind ( talk) 11:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker ( talk) 16:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
My source (Narasimhacharya) does not mention Gunasagarar's commentary, just Amritasagara's prosody Yapparunga.... Please tell me which source you refered to. Dineshkannambadi ( talk) 00:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading
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Thanks, I wasn't aware that I could do this. I've re-added the video as a thumbnail. Gary King ( talk) 16:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for providing the details of queyroz, we definitely need more statements with good sources like this. One question: is the tilde ~ really on the 'o' as you write "pataõ, Fernaõ" or rather on the 'a' "patão, Fernão"? The latter version is the one used in modern Portuguese, but I do not want to exclude that some different usage was common in former times. Jasy jatere ( talk) 07:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, the above article has undergone extensive copy editing, a final look through would be helpful. Thanks Taprobanus ( talk) 03:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Arvind, thanks for creating the article. Will read it and post my comments here. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
“ | By chronologically ordering the isolated moments which Tamil akam poetry, and describing how they fit into a serialised plot, the text - and in particular, Nakkiranar's commentary - related the emergent ciṟṟilakkiyam tradition to the ancient akam tradition, and thereby helped create a new approach to literature, on the basis on which a plethora of new literary forms developed in succeeding centuries. | ” |
Hello again Sundar. Sorry yet again for the long silence, things have been a little complicated at my end as well (nothing very serious, but wearying). Thank you for the pointer to ta:திணை விளக்கம். Incidentally, couldn't that article simply be merged into ta:அகத்திணை? The old texts treat purattinais are simply being the "purams" of specific akattinais (e.g., "vetchi" is said by Tolkappiyar to be "kurinchiyadhu puran"), so there really won't be anything like that level of detail as far as their mutarporul or karupporul are concerned. -- Arvind ( talk) 22:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
-- BorgQueen ( talk) 17:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
bamb | अपुन बम्बैया मे खिट्पिट् करता है |
Its really classy! -- KnowledgeHegemony Part2 13:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks but the article still needs a long way to go:)) Taprobanus ( talk) 02:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Peter Schalk of Uppsala University is one of the strongest proponents of the theory that the Ilam < Simhala derivation (which goes back to Robert Caldwell) is wrong. There's a long piece by him in Jean-Luc Chevillard's felicitation volume for François Gros, published by the Institut Français de Pondichéry. What is the details of this book or article so that I can get it ? Taprobanus ( talk) 12:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
You had participated at Talk:Indo-Aryan loanwords in Tamil yesterday. Kindly have a look at revised Indo-Aryan loanwords in Tamil vote at its AfD. Thanks for your time Kris ( talk) 23:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Arvind, loss of s/c to is not the only change I wanted to point out with that word. It was an excellent example of multiple changes, the most primary of them being the development of the retroflex l (which is called zh) in Tamil in an IA loanword, examples of which are otherwise hard to find. I dont find any serious linguist claiming that it is not a loanword, that is merely a case of ethno-nationalistic feelings playing foul. It is a shame that an academic article should thus be disrupted by those who probably have no idea themselves of what they are talking about. I dont mind leaving it out if I can find another example to show the development of zh in another IA loanword in Tamil, otherwise I might have to reuse it with the same authoritative references (or more of them) that I had cited for it, atleast DED and MU Lex. Kris ( talk) 16:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, when you find time, please have a look at the freshly-minted ta:மாந்தவுருபியம். If you have any suggestions relating to the scope of the article or any interesting examples, I would like to know. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 13:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Interesting! All those edits were made by one user, Lexmercatoria ( talk · contribs), who appeared on Wikipedia one day, seemingly with this single-purpose goal. A few months later, when his project had run into the sands, he suddenly disappeared, but not before giving me an award, which I have long suspected was partly tongue in cheek. Anyway, if it is still a matter of concern to you, you could check his history and attempt to guess his identity.
However, if you have time (and you certainly have the expertise) would you still like to re-write the article in an OR-free manner? An objectively written (and referenced) article will certainly help enormously, if only to deter the myriad POV-warriors who have used it to vent their discontents. The many editors who would like to see that article improve could certainly attend to the background noise, and leave you to focus on the more important things, during the re-write. Let me know what you think. Regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 18:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Hope you've recovered well.
I've added an interwiki link to ta:கழறிற்றறிவார் நாயனார் from Cheraman Perumal (Nayanar) relying on this edit. Please check whether that's valid. My Malayalam reading speed has come down due to lack of practice and I don't know enough on the subject too to confirm myself.
Regarding poetry, I have done some research on the yaappilakkaNam part, but am mostly ignorant about tinai etc. I'm certainly interested in writing on such topics with your help. I have a copy of yaapparungalakkaarigai with theLivurai (not in hand, but will bring it soon) in addition to tolkaappiyam and nannul. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 11:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I found a thesis on Batticaloa Tamil and I need the precise title. I tried in my local Tamil shop, but they could not provide a good English translation. Could you please help me?
tamiZHk kilLaimoZHi oliyaniyal Ayivu maTTakkaLappukkilai moZHi
ilangkaip palklaikkaZHakatti vittiyalangkaara valaakattil moZHiyiyal ciRappuk kalaippaTTuttiR kuriya paTangkañaL onnuka ivaayavukkaTTurai camaappikkappaTTuLLatu
cuTTilakkam 74464
Thanks a lot Jasy jatere ( talk) 11:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
(thamizhkkilaimozhi: tamil dialect, oliyaniyal: phonemics, Ayvu: research, mattakalappukkilaimozhi: the Batticaloa dialect).
In the virtual world, without having the luxury of seeing one's bodily expression, it is only natural that it takes longer than ususal to understand ones position. your apologies accepted in the same spirit given. Docku: What up? 21:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, this sure marks the end of an epoch. :-( May he rest in peace. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 10:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Quality of Turkish language FA seems to be much better, do you think we should spruce up the Tamil language article ? Taprobanus ( talk) 16:02, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hoi. The article on Thol. Thirumavalavan had degenerated into something of a hatefest. I've taken a stab at fixing it, but Dravidian politics is really more up your alley than mine, so it'd be great if you could have a look at it as and when you have the time. -- Arvind ( talk) 23:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I swear, i did not touch the video in any way. The video again doesn't work properly. -- Ultramegasuperstar ( talk) 13:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Vadakkan, was wondering if you could help me with something, seeing as you understand Tamil. What is the title/subject of this article,
மலையமான். Thank you for your help--
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I am putting two plants together, 600 jobs in total. It is a huge burden now. Taprobanus ( talk) 17:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Arvind, please rename Administrative Divisions to 'Political and Administrative Divisions'. 70.112.0.5 ( talk) 21:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
See his Wikipedia space contributions and you'll see why YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 06:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there! Would you like to offer a broad critique of History of Mysore and Coorg (1565–1760), which I've been ignoring lately. You can do so on the article talk page. A paragraph or two. Not the details, but the big picture. I'm hoping it will inspire me to get my ass in gear and attend to the article, add the footnotes etc. I mean I haven't even copyedited it in a long time. Shameful. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Just saw your comment at Talk:Tamil people. Please do send the article to me at the same address. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 10:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
You previously participated in a discussion regarding romanization of Bengali. It has been continued at Talk:Bengali script. Please discuss it there if you care. — AjaxSmack 01:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
as you appear to be knowledgeable of Indian law, could you please weigh in here. -- Like I Care 17:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Can you help find references fro Estonia–India relations? -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 17:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Vadakkan, a number of Iyers do actually speak Sanskrit, and some do exclusively. However, I'll wait to revert until I have found a source. Pectore talk 23:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
could you please comment here. thanks. -- L I C 15:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell me what தலை டா நீ means?Please? Schnitzel MannGreek. 18:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I was not aware of that, thanks for bringing it to my attention. On Google Scholar I found five hits for the word, so I thought it was fringe. I'll admit "hoax" was the wrong word in this context. Happy editing! Pectore talk 23:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I'm at the Wikimania 2009 to present a paper on Tamil Wikipedia. That's why the long absence. Had a look at your recent changes. They appear to be well-sourced and well-written. One other impact of European languages on Tamil prose is the increased use of the passive voice? (A learned user had once pointed out at the Tamil Wiki that it really makes the prose sound synthetic when we use passive voice so much in Tamil.) Your note on consonant clusters ( தமிழில் மெய்யொலிக் கூட்டம்) was interesting. Will ping you if I have more comments. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 20:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Arvind I just happened to see this as I logged in after many months. I had pointed out in Tamil Wiki and elsewhere that passive voice is gaining dangerous levels of currency and makes it sound unnatural. It is unnatural to Dravidian languages and you can see its rarity in literature and complete absence in spoken language. In literature you would find it almost exclusively in Thirukkural which as a metric exigency uses it only at the end of the kural ending it in படும். Also it is the commentators who use it profusely. Basically you will never find it in normal poems as opposed to didactics or commentaries.
As for the origins of the current trends it is squarely on those Tamil elites who have been trying to mimic English structure as they have started their speech first in English and try to match Tamil to it. Sanskrit influence would have made it show earlier over the 1500 years. Also in spite of the commentators' usage it never flourished. Continued usage of this will make Tamil less fluent and cause serious problems in the views of speakers as if its too cumbersome. You can see that in Tamil we always say "கேட்ட கேள்வி" not "கேட்கப்பட்ட கேள்வி", "இது யாரால் ஆகும்" not "யாரால் ஆக்கப்படும்". "இன்றைக்குச் சாயம் பூசுகிறது" (not "சாயம் பூசப்படுகிறது"), "நாலு நாளாக இது பண்ணுகிறது" (not பண்ணப்படுகிறது).
You can see the influence of English in non-grammatical contexts also: whereas people used to say நெருக்கடி now people use அழுத்தம் in total imitation of English pressure. Similarly மன அழுத்தம் instead of the traditional உளைச்சல் as they translate from tension instead of thinking straight in Tamil. Similarly அவனை நெருக்கு instead of current "அவனுக்கு அழுத்தம் கொடு". Note in addition that what used to be expressed succinctly with a verb now requires noun + auxiliary verb as the elite speaker first thinks of English noun tension then translate and then add a verb. That also brings to this discussion the imitation of English auxiliary verbs in place of entirely different auxiliary verbs originally in Tamil. For example: தப்பாக எடுத்துக்கொள்ளாதே is imitation of ("take it wrongly" or mistake) whereas originally it was தப்பாக நினைக்காதே.
Hope this helps.
perichandra1 14:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perichandra1 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks, Periannan Chandrasekar and Sundar. I agree very strongly with what you say, and have a lot of thoughts about this - the problem of style in Tamil in particular is something I've been grappling with for a couple of years. We have guests visiting us this weekend, so I'll reply in detail next week. -- Arvind ( talk) 20:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Can you check the transliteration I added at Iyengar and add the IPA pronounciation guide, if possible ? Regards. Abecedare ( talk) 02:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Abecedare ( talk) 04:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Can you take a look at some of the incoming links that were changed from Vatteluttu to Grantha? Along with the AfD, User:HumanFrailty, changed links on pages including Burmese script, Lao script, Thai alphabet, Khmer script, Bhattiprolu script etc. However, my script knowledge isn't exactly half as good as it should be to figure out of these changes were correct or not. Figured you might be able to provide the right answer. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff Calvin‡ Hobbes 16:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
All the issues (except additional alt-text that I will be adding in bits and pieces during the day) have now been dealt with. I welcome comments from you at the FAC review or on the article talk page. Thanks! Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I created a possible new template at User:Vinay84/Template:Middle kingdoms of India DO you know how to put up a notice for replacement so that a lot of people discuss the possible replacement? -- Vinay84 ( talk) 04:24, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
You must be a prominent person among academicians. I saw many users leave messages in your talk page and asking advices. You must be an academician in social sciences (or in linguistics). And the issues which have been discussed or you have contributed have always been some valuable issues. Unless you are a Wikipedia administrator, for the academic honesty, it would be better if you could tell something about you and of your publications etc. So many learners, researchers etc. may appreciate such information. Doesn't it? Nevill Fernando ( talk) 02:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Arvind, can you take a look at this edit. I reverted an unreferenced edit once, and the user and I had a discussion when I said anything should be referenced. He added a reference to this but nothing in the statement is supported by the ref, it's pure synthesis IMO, but I'd like another opinion. I haven't found any other reference to it, and the Tamil bell article doesn't support the add either. One more ref was added subsequently to the museum, which was more commentary, nothing else. I checked with Abecedare and he suggested I check with you. cheers. - Spaceman Spiff 00:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
The page was moved from the former title to the latter a couple of days back by a relatively new user. Going through the article, I'm not sure which one is the correct title. The article is an FA using the former title. Your opinion? cheers. - Spaceman Spiff 16:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
I've taken a bash at redoing the lead as an interim step. Could you (plural) have a look and "please do the needful" -- Arvind ( talk) 18:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Dear Aravind,
Do you mean to say that other kingdoms such as those of the Chalukyas and the Hoysalas were bigger and hence were empires and not that of the Cholas... surely there is something wrong here...
Also the recent wholesale changes made by Mr. Vadakkan with support from you have removed some of the changes approved especially with regard to the list of important and great Kings of the Cholas when there was a dispute over this article primarily between me and user Dinesh Kannambadi. The names of other important kings like Vikrama Chola, Kulottunga III etc. have been removed and what seemed to have happened was over a harmless enquiry there was a discussion among a limited group and the changes seem to have been made wholesale.
Already I have given a request to change the name of this article to Chola empire and have backed with reliable source and quote from K.A.Nilakanta Sastri's book. Please see my request and intention and the source quoted on the Chola Dynasty talk page. Yes, I am new to Wiki and do not know how to put up a request for change of title of a wiki article. I never received any help from any quarter... Instead of guiding new users, now this kind of bulldozing is occuring. Pls. remember on the Western Chalukya page all their claims especially the controversial portion on Tailapa-II and Satyasraya having defeated Rajendra Chola and Raja Raja Chola are simply based on a single source, the book by Suryanath Kamat. In contrast there are at least five claims either to the contrary by other sources. Pls. do go over the archive page where the dispute resolution took place and there was a proper well informed decision to back my claim about inclusion of some Chola kings among the important and great ones of the Chola dynasty.
Yes I am a new and inexperienced user. But at least people like me should be involved in discussions.
Do reply. Thanks
Srirangam99 ( talk) 10:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply Arvind, what about this question that I raised earlier?
Do you mean to say that other kingdoms such as those of the Chalukyas and the Hoysalas were bigger and hence were empires and not that of the Cholas... surely there is something wrong here...
Srirangam99 ( talk) 12:33, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Could there be a re-think pls.?
Srirangam99 ( talk) 08:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I would like to nominate R. K. Narayan for Featured Article status and would like your opinion on the article, and how it can be improved to meet the FA criteria. Can you provide feedback at Wikipedia:Peer review/R. K. Narayan/archive1? cheers. - Spaceman Spiff 04:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
A barnstar in appreciation of the "little things" (pun intended on your user page) that you fixed on Tamil language-related pages. Wish you continue to contribute with the same spirit. -- Sundar 05:26, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
Great work on Tamil language, Arvind. Can you take care of the objections on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tamil language till Tuesday when I return back here? Thanks. -- Sundar 12:54, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
- A special word of thanks, though insifficient, to you, Arvind. Thanks are also due to Taxman for his constructive comments. --
Sundar 04:56, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
Arvind, I'd already made this request in Raul's talk page. May be, you can add your support there, so that he'll be reminded of the request. He's the one who decides the featured article for a particular day. -- Sundar 04:55, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, are you aware that someone has nominated Tamil people for FAC? Please register your vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Tamil people. Btw, there is some recent activity in ta:. If you've some time to spend, you can contribute there. Particularly, I seek your help in translating a couple of section in the Tamil article there. Also, I noticed your correction of the translation. I was looking for this word "kin", but didn't strike me. -- Sundar ( talk · contribs) 10:39, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Arvind, if you haven't noticed, Tamil people is now a FA. Btw, a minor suggestion: though I understand that you mark most of your edits as "minor" on account of humility, I would suggest that you do so only for typo edits and the like. Because, marking edits that others might want to look at/verify as minor is sometimes frowned upon by some people. Thanks. -- Sundar 04:12, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Noticed your response at Talk:Tamil people. Hope you edit here at least occasionally and possibly at the Tamil Wikipedia too. :-) -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 17:15, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
--- Pamri • Talk • Reply 06:59, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your clarification on my talk page. Does that mean that the en:Parsi page's link to nn:Parsarar needs to be changed? (some stub in-between to clarify?)
Just a thought... -- Fullstop 20:31, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
excuse me ,i have given a apt discussion before editting periayr,i wish you would read and not blindly revert all edits.
what exactly do you mean by telling many buddhists are aethists?do you have sources to support that?even if there is,what is the definiton of a buddhists?one who believes in the followings of "lord Buddha".which runs exactly anti parallel to the definiton of aethism.and i am sorry to say this that the great thanthai periyar was just another hoodwinking politician who acted in many paronoid ways to get notice for his party.and it is evident that he was only an anti hindu,and not anti-god.if he was anti-god,he would have taken a strong offensive stand against all religions,but that would nullify his vote bank,so he did this,in fact they say he was anti upper caste,but he did nothing to uplift dalits,because he spoke nothing against the real oppresors the thevars and the nayaks. I also apologise for my unruly language used in my earlier discussions,please pardon me,i will not repeat it. i also read ur discussion on periyars page and your explanation and i am sure ,you will put up the article you had promised. -- Jayanthv86 18:25, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
i have wikified the Rani Mangammal page,but there are a lot of names which you can write about and expand,so please look into it.-- Jayanthv86 04:40, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Glad that you've made amends to Tamil language article. Most of the issues raised by an anon at Talk:Tamil language have been addressed. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
OK, Arvind. I'll take care. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 13:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
Arvind, In this edit, you'd referred (Hart 1975), but the citation is missing. Can you please add that? Also, the citation would be useful in a related discussion at Talk:List of English words of Tamil origin. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I changed what I think was biased writing on the article about Black July, could you have a look at its discussion page? Ulflarsen 16:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you wanted to form one. I'm interested :) Kingsleyj 23:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Problemet er at jeg føler det virker svært pretensiøst å presentere seg som redaktør av wikipedia (jeg regner med du ville sagt redaktør i wikipedia), samtidig som jeg ikke ønsker å gjøre noe poeng av at jeg skriver bedre på bokmål enn på nynorsk. Det kunne vært løst simpelthen ved at man droppet vedhenget "..., og behersker bokmål/nynorsk" på henholdsvis Template:user_nb og Template:user_nn. De som er interessert i distinksjonen, vil oppfatte forskjellen mellom "brukeren" og "brukaren". For meg har den nåværende utformingen av Template:user_nb og Template:user_nn en smak av norsk språkstrid, og derfor ønsker jeg ikke å bruke dem. Samtidig ønsker jeg ikke å presentere meg som redaktør. -- vibo56 09:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Your inputs could be valuable at Talk:Languages of India#Cleanup. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 13:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello Arvind, The article will survive the deletion (with all the keeps). So I will not comment on it. Thanks for the update. - Ganeshk ( talk) 03:57, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Good for you, for making the change to the introduction. And by the way, congratulations on taking the intellectual leap of splitting the long paragraph into two! Definitely an improvement. Credmond 21:14, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
User Vadakkan had vadalised the discussion page by shoving 3 differnet arguments by three differet users under one topic deleting the original sub headings of the arguments and replacing them with his own sub heading. Thus making it difficult for the user who initiated the topic to find it! This is not allowed in the discussion page.Please refrain from valdalising or you will be reported! Further if you like to experiment you can use the sand box! Thanks 172.130.231.48 19:19, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
'Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. ' - Ron - 04:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Can you please refer to [1] and offer your comments to solve a minor dispute in the Carnatic music article? Much appreciated. - Parthi 23:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Can you comment on my inline questions here? -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
I am in ur camp brother, creation is always very much better and then edit, you defend your work and improve it. Case in point the State terrorism in Sri Lanka. AFD is in and I am proud and relived that it began as a shameless piece of propaganda into article worth keeping. Thanks for you input in the discussion page RaveenS
I have tried to organise this project and created the categories and stub templates suggested by the project template, however there has been a proposal to merge Classical Tamil category with the Tamil literature category. I think it would be better if we make this project include all Tamil literature rather than just 'Classical Tamil literature' we could do better. Perhaps we should rename the project Wikiproject:Tamil literature.
Also I would like to see some more input from other editors in this project. - Parthi 22:23, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey there, I was going through the new cases at WP:MEDCAB and I noticed that you are already mediating LTTE, which was listed as a case needed a moderator. I changed the case to "open" since you have it. Let me know if this was in error. Thanks! -- Aguerriero ( talk) 01:47, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your commitment to WP:NPOV regarding the LTTE article. Addhoc 17:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, After a long time, I have completed the Kaveri_River_Water_Dispute article in some shape and form. Most importantly, I've added some refs. Can you please take a look at the article and let me know if there are any glaring POV or anything that has the potential to be seen as POV. If you find anything, please let me know and I will add refs. Also the refs I've already added need some cleanup. Can you help me with this. I only know to add refs the 'plain vanilla' way. Also, while I've added refs for most of the controversial or potentially controversial portions, some parts of the article is still unreferenced. I will add it in due course. For all the above reasons, I've still left the underconstruction tag on. Once I get feedback from you, I'll remove it. I'll also make this request to few other editors, so that we minimise any risk of edit warring on that article. Thanks. Sarvagnya 23:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi Arvind,
Stand of the two govts: I do not know when you last saw the article. But I made some changes after I posted my prev message to you asking you to take a look. Basically, I've gone into the main grouses of both governments in the introduction part that I added. Please take a look at it and if there is something missing, feel free to add it. Only thing is, if you are going to go into the nitty gritty of their grouses, I suggest you do it under a dedicated section. I think its better to keep the intro as brief as possible.
River Dispute Principles: That info is contained in one of the pdfs I've put in the references also I think. I wanted to add that myself but because of the technical nature of the subject, I found it a little difficult to summarise fairly without ommitting anything. Anyway, if you want to volunteer to do it, please go ahead. Once again the only request is, make sure that its presence doesnt take the focus away from the dispute which is central to the article. Infact, I am not sure, but I think I had seen an article on WP about the subject. Cant seem to find it now. If it is there, you could make use of it too.
Politics involved: I made a mention of this in the introduction I added after my previous message to you. But I agree that you can go over it in a section dedicated to it. I had also read about how winning in the kaveri districts has been vital for parties in both states.
wider context of the problem of water resources in India : imho: This one I am not so sure. In all fairness, it should certainly find a mention. But try to keep it as brief as possible.
Also, the section covering 2003-2006 needs to be expanded a bit and references added. If you can do that, fine. Or else leave it to me as I've done all the digging around for references already. I will do it in due course.
Thanks. Sarvagnya 07:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I believe you were making enquires about the Halmidi inscription. There exists a book by G.S. Gai (if i am not wrong) called Kadamba inscriptions. Gai was the chief Govt. epigraphist for ASI and he deciphered all the Kadabma inscriptions and wrote about it . You may find info on the Halmidi characters there, unless the book was written prior to the discovery of the halmidi inscription. I have now added Badami chalukya inscriptions from 6th and 8th centuries to the Kannada page. We had once discussed bringing out the evolution of the Kannada characters. This is a begining. Next year if/when I travel thru Hassan I shall make it a point to stop at Halmidi and photograph the prototype they have replaced the original with (in fibre glasss). In the meantime, enjoy the Chalukya inscriptions.
Dineshkannambadi
Arvind, the following is the message I left in User: Sunder's talk page and User:Venu62's talk page :
I find that two users Skris and Sarvagnya are reverting edits completely unreasonably. I have provided evidences from authentic sources and yet, they are pusing for their POV rather than being neutral and inclusive. The Carntic Music page has not progressed due to such unreasonable edits. The time put in to improve the article gets wasted. I don't know how to seek arbitration. I've already posted a copy of this in User Venu62 who had maintained objectivity in a tireless manner. Please advise.-- Aadal 05:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I have inserted extensive citations in the History of Tamil Nadu article. I think it is now in a state for a round of copyedit and review. If you could spare some time to go through this article, we can move towards peer review and then FAC. Appreciate your help - Parthi talk/ contribs 06:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
Arvind, I apologise for bringing up one task or another for you. Please see what can be done to the mess that the article on Brahminical culture and Dravidians, whatever the title seeks to imply. This has been moved from the earlier Dravidians and Hinduism. I look forward to your cleanup help and comments. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 09:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Arvind, I had a good break during Deepavali. Had a look at your proposal; looks like it's a step in the right direction. While I'm no expert in this, I'll try to comment on each proposal based on what I feel. I've also requested comments from some knowledgeable Tamil Wikipedians. Let's arrive at something here. By the way, I liked the karpalagai metaphor. :) -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 06:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
On a totally unrelated note, you might find ta:எம்.ஜி.ஆர். கொலை முயற்சி வழக்கு, 1967 interesting and given your background, you might help in getting us references to court papers and all. If you got some "pure Tamil" word suggestions for legal terms too, the article would benefit. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 09:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. I'm currently on Linux, so I'm just recalling from memory. If you're on windows, go to control panel -> settings -> languages -> select the check box corresponding to "script support for Thai, Indic, etc.," or something like that. It will install the appropriate packages if you insert your Windows installation CD at this point. However, on Linux I'm living with misrendered text. :( Some people have managed to tweak their system to render Tamil script correctly though. See if WP:COMPLEX or ta:Wikipedia:Font help helps. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your response on copyrights for Indian govt work. I am afraid I saw the response only today and have responded back. Shyamal 06:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, we may have been editing the India page at the same time and I probably inadvertently reverted some of the changes you made: unitary-->federal. Please make them again. Fowler&fowler 15:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help on Hortus Malabaricus . :-) -- Deepak D'Souza ( talk • contribs) 05:46, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, Tamil language is in FARC. If we don't act together to fix perceived problems, it will lose the FA status. Please take a look.-- Aadal 13:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, THANK you so much! You being so much specific reference and elegantly steer clear of controversy! I don't know what will happen to Tamil language page, but some people are simply ruining it. So much more can be written (informative, neutral and non-partisan), but the actions of some of the editors who don't understand Tamil is hurting the chances of retaining FA. Greatly appreciate your input and help.-- Aadal 16:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Happy New Year Arvind! Please take a look at the Tamil language FARC. We're not still there. We want to keep our FA in the new year! Tony has suggested that I try and book you and Sundar for a few hours. I'll seek extra time. I tried to solicit help from the league of copyeditors as well. There are only a few tags and I believe I can fix them. Sorry to bother you when you're busy !-- Aadal 19:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, thanks for posting a request on India noticeboard.-- Aadal 21:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
romanisation of tamil-- Ravishankar 10:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Please see this. The copyright status of couple of the images you uploaded has been questioned. Parthi talk/ contribs 00:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Boy, you really nailed the issue! Thanks dude, I appreciate that you understood what I was trying to do and let me and others know it too! I mean it - the issue and the bickering kinda fuzzed out my brain for a bit. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 17:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, Your timing couldn't be better. I was just putting together an article on the sources of ancient tamil history. I had collected epigraphic and numismatic data, and was about to expand the archaeological section. The link and the paper you provided seem quite informative and will prove more than handy. Thanks. Lotlil 21:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Some books listed under the references section of the Tamil language article are not cited inline. Could you have a look as to where they need to be cited or if they can be removed? I think some of them can be used in the grammar section. For example, the statement on uriccol could use "Kāṅkēyar (1840). Uriccol nikaṇṭurai. Putuvai, Kuveṟaṉmā Accukkūṭam". -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 06:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes I need to upload into commons, along with about 400 other images (mostly architecture/Kannada inscriptions related).:) Dineshkannambadi 00:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Do you think this is a correct characterisation? -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 05:23, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I don't know if you noticed, Chennai is currently being reviewed for being delisted, at FAR. Please take a look at the article when you get a chance. Thanks. Lotlil 14:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Sundar, thank you for your comments on Talk:Tolkāppiyam, which I really appreciate very much, but it's not worth making an issue of. Leave it be. And thanks again for your support. -- Arvind 17:01, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Arvind/Vadakkan: Thanks for the Pancha Marapu edit to restore it to regular status and for supplying matter from Zvelebil and Ramanathan. perichandra1 15:19, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd prefer Sangattamil. But, I don't know what Wiki policy recommends. Classical Tamil, I'm afraid, might be misunderstood by some and Old Tamil doesn't sound like a name. :-) Whatever name you write it under, I'm looking forward to the article. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 04:38, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
As a native speaker, I've never realised the nature of info provided by this verb marker. Good to know this. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:25, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Arvind Please see this threat by one wikiuser: [ [2]] Is this the way Wiki operates. I thought I should report this to Wiki admin. I have tried to edit and then when reverted gave extensive arguments to support my edits. What does one do in this case? perichandra1 19:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, Since you have already commented a number of times in the RfC on other people's comments, I thought it might be a good idea to register your own comments formally under your own name. I think it will help to have your arguments all in one place, rather than as addenda to other people's comments. Thanks! Also, in the brief snatches of time I could find today, I've managed to update the Toda people article a little. Regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 18:34, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for taking part in the discussion. I've been trying to make it clear to those two editors (Tulu War and Dayaanjali) that Malayalam originated from Old Tamil (or Proto-Tamil-Malayalam) for a long time. They think that Malayalam has nothing to do with Tamil and that it hasn't originated from Tamil at all. -- vi5in [talk] 00:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Thank u very much. Taprobanus 22:35, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The toponymic analysis of Mylanthanai has now been included. Its meaning is trivial when you consider its old Sinhalese name. Bodhi dhana ( talk) 06:26, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
How do I transfer pics that are in the Tamilpedia to English section? Thanks Taprobanus 16:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
I was pleasantly surprised to hear from you on the "paharia women" image talk page. I have replied there. Thanks! Fowler&fowler «Talk» 22:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
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For your tireless effort in providing Tamil place names for English articles Taprobanus 21:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
Thanks for weighing in on the image issue. I was thinking of pinging you myself but left in a hurry on thursday. As for the issue of the watermark, which you seem to think is irrelevant... well.. my argument is a little more nuanced than I could manage to present that day. My basic question/argument is this - assuming that it is indeed a watermarked copy of a faithful reproduction of the original and not a photograph of a photograph, does not the watermarking amount to the 'creation' of a new photograph? Butseriously says that it doesnt. What do you think? Because if it does, then the copyright well and truly belongs to BL as in fact, they explicitly claim.
Another point which I'm trying to get clarification for has to do with the date of publication. Since the couple of pd tags that have been discussed on that talk page hinge on the date of publication, do you think we should be a little more careful in not equating the date of creation and the date of publication. Agreed, that the two may not be very different in most cases, but I feel that the point needs to be considered and factored into policy.. if it hasnt already. Or if policy already has considered it, would you be able to shed light about how that was achieved or just simply any relevant thoughts on it. Thanks. More later. Sarvagnya 23:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello Watchdogb. I notice you've tagged Kalmunai massacre and Sri Lankan Civil War as requiring Tamil text. This tag is usually applied when, for example, an article about a Tamil place, person, film, book or some such thing does not have his / her / its name in Tamil script (or where they're mentioned in an article in a context that requires their name to be provided in Tamil script). Looking at these articles, I'm not sure exactly what they lack the Tamil script for. Could you let me know exactly what you're looking for, so I can try to add it? -- Arvind 09:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Do you have (or could you make) a higher res image of Image:Parsi wedding portrait with Dastur MN Dhalla.jpg? Specifically, the picture of Dhalla (for the Maneckji Nusserwanji Dhalla article)? Thanks. -- Fullstop 18:29, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I want to create a list of Kings based on the infor box kings used by the Ganga dynasty article for Jaffna Kingdom article that I am developing. Can you help to locate the source code for that template please ? Thanks Taprobanus 00:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
As my talk page says, am on a break and will be on a break for a few more weeks atleast. So I do not have the time to go through the article in detail, but simply looking at the overall organisation of the article, I must congratulate you on what appears like a thorough, professional job. Looks simply awesome. Trust you to polish it further in any way you see fit. More later.. once i am back from my break. Thanks and regards. Sarvagnya 12:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia' NOR guidlines there is no special preference given to a primary or secondary hence, I feel the primary sources should be kept along with the secondary, especially for the laws stated in the Constitution. Thanks. Knowledge Hegemony 15:57, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Featured or not, the article as it stands seems to me as the best summary on the subject. Congratulations. A picture of V P Menon could've made it "complete", but I couldn't find any free pic that we could use. Perhaps we should ask at the wishlist here for a hi-res version of the photo here. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 12:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Arvind, I'm sorta back and can spend a few hours a week. Please tell me if I can be of use. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 03:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
In the english language school text book published by Department of School Education, Government of Tamil Nadu, India [3], the title of the third chapter of the 10 grade social science book is "The First War of Indian Independence (Great Revolt of 1857) - End of East India Company's Rule" (please see: [4]). Looks like (and I hope) that the debate on title "First War of Independence" is now closed, but just wanted to let you know in case the debate pops up again and I may have to use this reference.
Thank You Desione ( talk) 05:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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For your extremely wise words at User_talk:Ncmvocalist#Please.2C_for_your_own_sake.21 - given by Spartaz Humbug! 13:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC), and fully endorsed by Ncmvocalist ( talk) 15:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC) |
Hi Arvind, I have to apologize for not getting around to doing some things I was supposed to (like getting some maps on WikiCommons and talking to my Urdu experts).
I'm feeling frustrated from all the fighting that lately seem to take place on whatever page I decide to edit. Speaking of which, could you take a look at the post I made on Dwaipayan's talk page? And give me some feedback? Thanks. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 07:33, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I have not come across that book, as I concentrate on the sub varity, I have the follwing book
About the flag, It is a generic flag, Vel festival is a festival held by the Kathiresan Temple in Bambalapitiya in Colombo. Number of other temples also participate such as the Bambalapitiya Pillaiyar Temple. These temples were established about 100 years ago by the Natukottai Chetties Taprobanus ( talk) 12:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Nilakana Sastri's book on Cholas (published in 1955) has section on their temple culture that was a precursor to Carnatic Music and Bharatanatyam. You should get it, if you already do not have it. Also the K. Indrapala's Evolution of an ethnic identity... puts it together as to how Chola Art forms directly lead to Bharatanatyam forms in sculptures in Sri Lanka. Indrapal quotes Nilakanta Sastri extensively. Taprobanus ( talk) 02:47, 24 March 2008 (UTC) copied from User_talk:Aadal to preserve the context
Sri Lankan Tamil people not done 100% if you have time Taprobanus ( talk) 23:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Arvind. Have incorporated the ref into the article, and posted a note on Ganesh's talk page informing him of the same. - Max - You were saying? 20:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
hi three / four people (or the same person using adjacent cabin computer?) (with user names similar to gaaaneshk, maaaximvsdecimvs, mmmmcm19 -user names altered to conceal their identity) think their view is A L W A Y S right, BUT NEVER HAVE THE GUTS TO SHOW VALID REFERENCES...but they delete VALID REFERENCED content from other users if it pricks their personal opinion...hope we monitor the changes that this cotery of lie mongerers propagate ...hoping for your cooperation..hope no one else has a shock of their life when misquotations are passed on as quotations!!! Ksense ( talk) 13:19, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
do you have an email? Sarvagnya 22:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the note you left here. I have another question about the form or spelling of Karṇaṭaka. In Tamil, although not meaning the same, when one writes கருநாடகம் the n there is dental, d is retroflex and "k" is pronounced g. If the word is written as Karṇaṭaka, what would the meaning (in Skt? in Kannada?)? Sanskrit and Kannada both have all the letters - dental n, retroflex n, retroflex t and d, k and g. The Kannada word for country, I believe is naadu (correct me if I'm wrong), where the first letter n is dental and the other consonant is d and not t. There appears to be too many features of linguistic incongruence here in writing Karṇaṭaka (except that that is how it is written in Sanskrit). If Srinatha says "Karnata bhasha", it is neither Karṇaṭaka bhasha nor Kannada bhasha. What are the historical evidences that Karnata bhasha refers to the Kannada bhasha and not bhasha of the Karnataka region of the empire of his days (perhaps referring to Kannada and Telugu, or simply Telugu of the Karnataka region)? Thanks-- Aadal ( talk) 21:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
A user, Sarvagnya has nominated Chola dynasty in FAR. Would you please help? Thanks.
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-- Aadal ( talk) 23:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Happy to see you save the day for Tamil. By the way, do you happen to have "Negotiations with the past : classical Tamil in contemporary Tamil"? I read the summary of this book in the French Institute of Pondicherry [5] catalogue. The summary says how "modern Tamil derives most of its vocabulary and syntax from Classical Tamil literature". If we get the actual quote inside the book, it would be helpful. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 11:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Dear Arvind, the Tamil wiki article on Bonobo was written by one Vendan Arasu (வேந்தன் அரசு இயற்பெயர் ராஜு ராஜேந்திரன்) from Ohio. I was following some trail that led to Sundar's page and then I landed here. I can't believe what will happen to Tamil-related pages on English Wiki without such wonderful contributions from you, Sundar and few other dedicated persons! Many Tamils would be grateful! When you get some time, please visit Tamil Wiki too and offer some of your valuable suggestions. Sundar had talked about you quite a few times. Regards -- C.R.Selvakumar ( talk) 20:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. We should produce the quotes from RS and get the lead rewritten in the Tamil language article. It's an eyesore now. I don't care if the dates get pushed forward or behind (after a decision by neutral people), but let this issue be resolved for once and the article look saner. Please see this discussion and help with quotes when you're back. Sorry that I'm not of much use here without access to most of those journals. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I agree that Sri Lankan Tamil nationalism needs its own page, but Indian Tamil nationalism and Sri Lankan Tamil nationalism are not two unconnected entities. There is a literature exploring the similarities and differences between the two, the extent to which the two influenced each other, and the extent to which they drew on a common past. To simply turn Tamil nationalism into a disambiguation page ignores all of this. Also note that the Tamil wikipedia itself has a substantive article at its equivalent page, ta:தமிழ்த் தேசியம். -- Arvind ( talk) 11:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. I hope you find I live up to your expectations. Best, Risker ( talk) 16:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
My source (Narasimhacharya) does not mention Gunasagarar's commentary, just Amritasagara's prosody Yapparunga.... Please tell me which source you refered to. Dineshkannambadi ( talk) 00:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks, I wasn't aware that I could do this. I've re-added the video as a thumbnail. Gary King ( talk) 16:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for providing the details of queyroz, we definitely need more statements with good sources like this. One question: is the tilde ~ really on the 'o' as you write "pataõ, Fernaõ" or rather on the 'a' "patão, Fernão"? The latter version is the one used in modern Portuguese, but I do not want to exclude that some different usage was common in former times. Jasy jatere ( talk) 07:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, the above article has undergone extensive copy editing, a final look through would be helpful. Thanks Taprobanus ( talk) 03:18, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Arvind, thanks for creating the article. Will read it and post my comments here. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 07:50, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
“ | By chronologically ordering the isolated moments which Tamil akam poetry, and describing how they fit into a serialised plot, the text - and in particular, Nakkiranar's commentary - related the emergent ciṟṟilakkiyam tradition to the ancient akam tradition, and thereby helped create a new approach to literature, on the basis on which a plethora of new literary forms developed in succeeding centuries. | ” |
Hello again Sundar. Sorry yet again for the long silence, things have been a little complicated at my end as well (nothing very serious, but wearying). Thank you for the pointer to ta:திணை விளக்கம். Incidentally, couldn't that article simply be merged into ta:அகத்திணை? The old texts treat purattinais are simply being the "purams" of specific akattinais (e.g., "vetchi" is said by Tolkappiyar to be "kurinchiyadhu puran"), so there really won't be anything like that level of detail as far as their mutarporul or karupporul are concerned. -- Arvind ( talk) 22:36, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
-- BorgQueen ( talk) 17:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
bamb | अपुन बम्बैया मे खिट्पिट् करता है |
Its really classy! -- KnowledgeHegemony Part2 13:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks but the article still needs a long way to go:)) Taprobanus ( talk) 02:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Peter Schalk of Uppsala University is one of the strongest proponents of the theory that the Ilam < Simhala derivation (which goes back to Robert Caldwell) is wrong. There's a long piece by him in Jean-Luc Chevillard's felicitation volume for François Gros, published by the Institut Français de Pondichéry. What is the details of this book or article so that I can get it ? Taprobanus ( talk) 12:11, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
You had participated at Talk:Indo-Aryan loanwords in Tamil yesterday. Kindly have a look at revised Indo-Aryan loanwords in Tamil vote at its AfD. Thanks for your time Kris ( talk) 23:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Arvind, loss of s/c to is not the only change I wanted to point out with that word. It was an excellent example of multiple changes, the most primary of them being the development of the retroflex l (which is called zh) in Tamil in an IA loanword, examples of which are otherwise hard to find. I dont find any serious linguist claiming that it is not a loanword, that is merely a case of ethno-nationalistic feelings playing foul. It is a shame that an academic article should thus be disrupted by those who probably have no idea themselves of what they are talking about. I dont mind leaving it out if I can find another example to show the development of zh in another IA loanword in Tamil, otherwise I might have to reuse it with the same authoritative references (or more of them) that I had cited for it, atleast DED and MU Lex. Kris ( talk) 16:32, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, when you find time, please have a look at the freshly-minted ta:மாந்தவுருபியம். If you have any suggestions relating to the scope of the article or any interesting examples, I would like to know. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 13:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Interesting! All those edits were made by one user, Lexmercatoria ( talk · contribs), who appeared on Wikipedia one day, seemingly with this single-purpose goal. A few months later, when his project had run into the sands, he suddenly disappeared, but not before giving me an award, which I have long suspected was partly tongue in cheek. Anyway, if it is still a matter of concern to you, you could check his history and attempt to guess his identity.
However, if you have time (and you certainly have the expertise) would you still like to re-write the article in an OR-free manner? An objectively written (and referenced) article will certainly help enormously, if only to deter the myriad POV-warriors who have used it to vent their discontents. The many editors who would like to see that article improve could certainly attend to the background noise, and leave you to focus on the more important things, during the re-write. Let me know what you think. Regards, Fowler&fowler «Talk» 18:39, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Hope you've recovered well.
I've added an interwiki link to ta:கழறிற்றறிவார் நாயனார் from Cheraman Perumal (Nayanar) relying on this edit. Please check whether that's valid. My Malayalam reading speed has come down due to lack of practice and I don't know enough on the subject too to confirm myself.
Regarding poetry, I have done some research on the yaappilakkaNam part, but am mostly ignorant about tinai etc. I'm certainly interested in writing on such topics with your help. I have a copy of yaapparungalakkaarigai with theLivurai (not in hand, but will bring it soon) in addition to tolkaappiyam and nannul. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 11:42, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I found a thesis on Batticaloa Tamil and I need the precise title. I tried in my local Tamil shop, but they could not provide a good English translation. Could you please help me?
tamiZHk kilLaimoZHi oliyaniyal Ayivu maTTakkaLappukkilai moZHi
ilangkaip palklaikkaZHakatti vittiyalangkaara valaakattil moZHiyiyal ciRappuk kalaippaTTuttiR kuriya paTangkañaL onnuka ivaayavukkaTTurai camaappikkappaTTuLLatu
cuTTilakkam 74464
Thanks a lot Jasy jatere ( talk) 11:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
(thamizhkkilaimozhi: tamil dialect, oliyaniyal: phonemics, Ayvu: research, mattakalappukkilaimozhi: the Batticaloa dialect).
In the virtual world, without having the luxury of seeing one's bodily expression, it is only natural that it takes longer than ususal to understand ones position. your apologies accepted in the same spirit given. Docku: What up? 21:30, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Yes, this sure marks the end of an epoch. :-( May he rest in peace. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 10:15, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Quality of Turkish language FA seems to be much better, do you think we should spruce up the Tamil language article ? Taprobanus ( talk) 16:02, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Hoi. The article on Thol. Thirumavalavan had degenerated into something of a hatefest. I've taken a stab at fixing it, but Dravidian politics is really more up your alley than mine, so it'd be great if you could have a look at it as and when you have the time. -- Arvind ( talk) 23:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
I swear, i did not touch the video in any way. The video again doesn't work properly. -- Ultramegasuperstar ( talk) 13:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Vadakkan, was wondering if you could help me with something, seeing as you understand Tamil. What is the title/subject of this article,
மலையமான். Thank you for your help--
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I am putting two plants together, 600 jobs in total. It is a huge burden now. Taprobanus ( talk) 17:36, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Arvind, please rename Administrative Divisions to 'Political and Administrative Divisions'. 70.112.0.5 ( talk) 21:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
See his Wikipedia space contributions and you'll see why YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 06:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there! Would you like to offer a broad critique of History of Mysore and Coorg (1565–1760), which I've been ignoring lately. You can do so on the article talk page. A paragraph or two. Not the details, but the big picture. I'm hoping it will inspire me to get my ass in gear and attend to the article, add the footnotes etc. I mean I haven't even copyedited it in a long time. Shameful. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi Arvind. Just saw your comment at Talk:Tamil people. Please do send the article to me at the same address. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 10:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
You previously participated in a discussion regarding romanization of Bengali. It has been continued at Talk:Bengali script. Please discuss it there if you care. — AjaxSmack 01:42, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
as you appear to be knowledgeable of Indian law, could you please weigh in here. -- Like I Care 17:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Can you help find references fro Estonia–India relations? -- Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) ( talk) 17:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi Vadakkan, a number of Iyers do actually speak Sanskrit, and some do exclusively. However, I'll wait to revert until I have found a source. Pectore talk 23:14, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
could you please comment here. thanks. -- L I C 15:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell me what தலை டா நீ means?Please? Schnitzel MannGreek. 18:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
I was not aware of that, thanks for bringing it to my attention. On Google Scholar I found five hits for the word, so I thought it was fringe. I'll admit "hoax" was the wrong word in this context. Happy editing! Pectore talk 23:37, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi Arvind, I'm at the Wikimania 2009 to present a paper on Tamil Wikipedia. That's why the long absence. Had a look at your recent changes. They appear to be well-sourced and well-written. One other impact of European languages on Tamil prose is the increased use of the passive voice? (A learned user had once pointed out at the Tamil Wiki that it really makes the prose sound synthetic when we use passive voice so much in Tamil.) Your note on consonant clusters ( தமிழில் மெய்யொலிக் கூட்டம்) was interesting. Will ping you if I have more comments. -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 20:56, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
Arvind I just happened to see this as I logged in after many months. I had pointed out in Tamil Wiki and elsewhere that passive voice is gaining dangerous levels of currency and makes it sound unnatural. It is unnatural to Dravidian languages and you can see its rarity in literature and complete absence in spoken language. In literature you would find it almost exclusively in Thirukkural which as a metric exigency uses it only at the end of the kural ending it in படும். Also it is the commentators who use it profusely. Basically you will never find it in normal poems as opposed to didactics or commentaries.
As for the origins of the current trends it is squarely on those Tamil elites who have been trying to mimic English structure as they have started their speech first in English and try to match Tamil to it. Sanskrit influence would have made it show earlier over the 1500 years. Also in spite of the commentators' usage it never flourished. Continued usage of this will make Tamil less fluent and cause serious problems in the views of speakers as if its too cumbersome. You can see that in Tamil we always say "கேட்ட கேள்வி" not "கேட்கப்பட்ட கேள்வி", "இது யாரால் ஆகும்" not "யாரால் ஆக்கப்படும்". "இன்றைக்குச் சாயம் பூசுகிறது" (not "சாயம் பூசப்படுகிறது"), "நாலு நாளாக இது பண்ணுகிறது" (not பண்ணப்படுகிறது).
You can see the influence of English in non-grammatical contexts also: whereas people used to say நெருக்கடி now people use அழுத்தம் in total imitation of English pressure. Similarly மன அழுத்தம் instead of the traditional உளைச்சல் as they translate from tension instead of thinking straight in Tamil. Similarly அவனை நெருக்கு instead of current "அவனுக்கு அழுத்தம் கொடு". Note in addition that what used to be expressed succinctly with a verb now requires noun + auxiliary verb as the elite speaker first thinks of English noun tension then translate and then add a verb. That also brings to this discussion the imitation of English auxiliary verbs in place of entirely different auxiliary verbs originally in Tamil. For example: தப்பாக எடுத்துக்கொள்ளாதே is imitation of ("take it wrongly" or mistake) whereas originally it was தப்பாக நினைக்காதே.
Hope this helps.
perichandra1 14:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perichandra1 ( talk • contribs)
Thanks, Periannan Chandrasekar and Sundar. I agree very strongly with what you say, and have a lot of thoughts about this - the problem of style in Tamil in particular is something I've been grappling with for a couple of years. We have guests visiting us this weekend, so I'll reply in detail next week. -- Arvind ( talk) 20:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Can you check the transliteration I added at Iyengar and add the IPA pronounciation guide, if possible ? Regards. Abecedare ( talk) 02:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Abecedare ( talk) 04:20, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Can you take a look at some of the incoming links that were changed from Vatteluttu to Grantha? Along with the AfD, User:HumanFrailty, changed links on pages including Burmese script, Lao script, Thai alphabet, Khmer script, Bhattiprolu script etc. However, my script knowledge isn't exactly half as good as it should be to figure out of these changes were correct or not. Figured you might be able to provide the right answer. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff Calvin‡ Hobbes 16:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
All the issues (except additional alt-text that I will be adding in bits and pieces during the day) have now been dealt with. I welcome comments from you at the FAC review or on the article talk page. Thanks! Fowler&fowler «Talk» 15:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I created a possible new template at User:Vinay84/Template:Middle kingdoms of India DO you know how to put up a notice for replacement so that a lot of people discuss the possible replacement? -- Vinay84 ( talk) 04:24, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
You must be a prominent person among academicians. I saw many users leave messages in your talk page and asking advices. You must be an academician in social sciences (or in linguistics). And the issues which have been discussed or you have contributed have always been some valuable issues. Unless you are a Wikipedia administrator, for the academic honesty, it would be better if you could tell something about you and of your publications etc. So many learners, researchers etc. may appreciate such information. Doesn't it? Nevill Fernando ( talk) 02:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Arvind, can you take a look at this edit. I reverted an unreferenced edit once, and the user and I had a discussion when I said anything should be referenced. He added a reference to this but nothing in the statement is supported by the ref, it's pure synthesis IMO, but I'd like another opinion. I haven't found any other reference to it, and the Tamil bell article doesn't support the add either. One more ref was added subsequently to the museum, which was more commentary, nothing else. I checked with Abecedare and he suggested I check with you. cheers. - Spaceman Spiff 00:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
The page was moved from the former title to the latter a couple of days back by a relatively new user. Going through the article, I'm not sure which one is the correct title. The article is an FA using the former title. Your opinion? cheers. - Spaceman Spiff 16:15, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
I've taken a bash at redoing the lead as an interim step. Could you (plural) have a look and "please do the needful" -- Arvind ( talk) 18:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Dear Aravind,
Do you mean to say that other kingdoms such as those of the Chalukyas and the Hoysalas were bigger and hence were empires and not that of the Cholas... surely there is something wrong here...
Also the recent wholesale changes made by Mr. Vadakkan with support from you have removed some of the changes approved especially with regard to the list of important and great Kings of the Cholas when there was a dispute over this article primarily between me and user Dinesh Kannambadi. The names of other important kings like Vikrama Chola, Kulottunga III etc. have been removed and what seemed to have happened was over a harmless enquiry there was a discussion among a limited group and the changes seem to have been made wholesale.
Already I have given a request to change the name of this article to Chola empire and have backed with reliable source and quote from K.A.Nilakanta Sastri's book. Please see my request and intention and the source quoted on the Chola Dynasty talk page. Yes, I am new to Wiki and do not know how to put up a request for change of title of a wiki article. I never received any help from any quarter... Instead of guiding new users, now this kind of bulldozing is occuring. Pls. remember on the Western Chalukya page all their claims especially the controversial portion on Tailapa-II and Satyasraya having defeated Rajendra Chola and Raja Raja Chola are simply based on a single source, the book by Suryanath Kamat. In contrast there are at least five claims either to the contrary by other sources. Pls. do go over the archive page where the dispute resolution took place and there was a proper well informed decision to back my claim about inclusion of some Chola kings among the important and great ones of the Chola dynasty.
Yes I am a new and inexperienced user. But at least people like me should be involved in discussions.
Do reply. Thanks
Srirangam99 ( talk) 10:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply Arvind, what about this question that I raised earlier?
Do you mean to say that other kingdoms such as those of the Chalukyas and the Hoysalas were bigger and hence were empires and not that of the Cholas... surely there is something wrong here...
Srirangam99 ( talk) 12:33, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
Could there be a re-think pls.?
Srirangam99 ( talk) 08:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
I would like to nominate R. K. Narayan for Featured Article status and would like your opinion on the article, and how it can be improved to meet the FA criteria. Can you provide feedback at Wikipedia:Peer review/R. K. Narayan/archive1? cheers. - Spaceman Spiff 04:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)