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Happy editing! Cheers, 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 10:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
I understand that your edit to Epsilon was made in good faith but please read Wikipedia:Hatnote#Disambiguating article names that are not ambiguous. The only credible confusion is with Upsilon. You have to ask yourself is it credible that a reader would type ε but actually be looking for Є or Ԑ? On the English language Wikipedia? In other words, how would they get there?
I think that the issue is more one of means rather than ends. Yes, your are correct in believing that the different interpretations of the
glyph ⟨E⟩ (and similar letters) in Cyrillic, Greek and Latin should be identified in the article, it is just that the hatnote is the wrong place to do it, according to the
Wikipedia:Manual of Style. So I will add a "See also" section that steals two [a] line from
E (disambiguation):
and in addition
- Є є, Ukrainian Ye
- Ԑ ԑ, Reversed Ze
I trust you can see the sense of this. If not, then please ask first at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. You will get a better explanation there – maybe they might agree with you! -- 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 10:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- What? They're exactly the same.
UkroballIsGreat (
talk)
13:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- What are?
E (latin),
Е (cyrillic) and
Ε (greek) are three different letters that just happen to look alike. Sorry, I don't understand your point? --
𝕁𝕄𝔽 (
talk)
13:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Someone just edited this before me UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 13:29, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- What are?
E (latin),
Е (cyrillic) and
Ε (greek) are three different letters that just happen to look alike. Sorry, I don't understand your point? --
𝕁𝕄𝔽 (
talk)
13:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
Xeverything11. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of
your recent contributions—specifically
this edit to
Yat—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the
sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the
Teahouse or the
Help desk. Thanks.
Xeverything11 (
talk)
13:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hm, because of the Cyrillic letter Yat and the semisoft sign?
UkroballIsGreat (
talk)
13:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- If the article were called Ѣ (and if people on en.wikipedia were ever likely to search for it using the Ѣ as a search term), then yes, it would be reasonable to make the change you did. But they wouldn't, so it wasn't. Which is, I think, the essential point of what Xeverything11's message is intended to convey.
- I believe that your edit was made in good faith but when editing you need to bear in mind that this is not
Ukrainian Wikipedia (or
Russian Wikipedia) and that most readers can't easily enter characters used in those languages. Nor, I suspect, would it occur to all but a very few to even try.--
𝕁𝕄𝔽 (
talk)
13:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Look, the only difference is the length of it. UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 07:23, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Please do not introduce
links in actual articles to
draft articles, as you did to
Voiced pharyngeal fricative and
Koppa (Cyrillic). Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the
Manual of Style. These links have been removed. Thank you. -
Arjayay (
talk)
18:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
My Pants Metal. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article,
Methane, but you didn't provide a
reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to
include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at
referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on
my talk page. Thank you.
My Pants Metal (
talk)
01:46, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- oh sorry. UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 01:47, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
--WikiUser1234945--. I noticed that you made a comment on the page
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--WikiUser1234945-- (
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15:43, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Bro this is only a brick charging UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 16:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Getting Started
Tutorial
Learn everything you need to know to get started.
The Teahouse
Ask questions and get help from experienced editors.
The Task Center
Learn what Wikipedians do and discover how to help.
Tips- Don't be afraid to edit! Just find something that can be improved and make it better. Other editors will help fix any mistakes you make.
- It's normal to feel a little overwhelmed, but don't worry if you don't understand everything at first—it's fine to edit using common sense.
- If an edit you make is reverted, you can discuss the issue at the article's talk page. Be civil, and don't restore the edit unless there is consensus.
- Always use edit summaries to explain your changes.
- When adding new content to an article, always include a citation to a reliable source.
- If you wish to edit about a subject with which you are affiliated, read our conflict of interest guide and disclose your connection.
- Have fun! Your presence in the Wikipedia community is welcome.
Happy editing! Cheers, 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 10:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
I understand that your edit to Epsilon was made in good faith but please read Wikipedia:Hatnote#Disambiguating article names that are not ambiguous. The only credible confusion is with Upsilon. You have to ask yourself is it credible that a reader would type ε but actually be looking for Є or Ԑ? On the English language Wikipedia? In other words, how would they get there?
I think that the issue is more one of means rather than ends. Yes, your are correct in believing that the different interpretations of the
glyph ⟨E⟩ (and similar letters) in Cyrillic, Greek and Latin should be identified in the article, it is just that the hatnote is the wrong place to do it, according to the
Wikipedia:Manual of Style. So I will add a "See also" section that steals two [a] line from
E (disambiguation):
and in addition
- Є є, Ukrainian Ye
- Ԑ ԑ, Reversed Ze
I trust you can see the sense of this. If not, then please ask first at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. You will get a better explanation there – maybe they might agree with you! -- 𝕁𝕄𝔽 ( talk) 10:34, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- What? They're exactly the same.
UkroballIsGreat (
talk)
13:01, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- What are?
E (latin),
Е (cyrillic) and
Ε (greek) are three different letters that just happen to look alike. Sorry, I don't understand your point? --
𝕁𝕄𝔽 (
talk)
13:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Someone just edited this before me UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 13:29, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- What are?
E (latin),
Е (cyrillic) and
Ε (greek) are three different letters that just happen to look alike. Sorry, I don't understand your point? --
𝕁𝕄𝔽 (
talk)
13:27, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
Xeverything11. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of
your recent contributions—specifically
this edit to
Yat—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the
sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the
Teahouse or the
Help desk. Thanks.
Xeverything11 (
talk)
13:10, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Hm, because of the Cyrillic letter Yat and the semisoft sign?
UkroballIsGreat (
talk)
13:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- If the article were called Ѣ (and if people on en.wikipedia were ever likely to search for it using the Ѣ as a search term), then yes, it would be reasonable to make the change you did. But they wouldn't, so it wasn't. Which is, I think, the essential point of what Xeverything11's message is intended to convey.
- I believe that your edit was made in good faith but when editing you need to bear in mind that this is not
Ukrainian Wikipedia (or
Russian Wikipedia) and that most readers can't easily enter characters used in those languages. Nor, I suspect, would it occur to all but a very few to even try.--
𝕁𝕄𝔽 (
talk)
13:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Look, the only difference is the length of it. UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 07:23, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Please do not introduce
links in actual articles to
draft articles, as you did to
Voiced pharyngeal fricative and
Koppa (Cyrillic). Since a draft is not yet ready for the main article space, it is not in shape for ordinary readers, and links from articles should not go to a draft. Such links are contrary to the
Manual of Style. These links have been removed. Thank you. -
Arjayay (
talk)
18:03, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
My Pants Metal. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article,
Methane, but you didn't provide a
reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to
include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at
referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on
my talk page. Thank you.
My Pants Metal (
talk)
01:46, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
- oh sorry. UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 01:47, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
--WikiUser1234945--. I noticed that you made a comment on the page
User:Eggs12345678910 with
this edit that didn't seem very
civil, so I removed it. Wikipedia needs people like you and me to collaborate, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on
my talk page. Thank you.
--WikiUser1234945-- (
talk)
15:43, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Script U moved to draftspace
Thanks for your contributions to Script U. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it has no sources. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.
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𝕁𝕄𝔽 (
talk)
14:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Bro this is only a brick charging UkroballIsGreat ( talk) 16:23, 19 July 2024 (UTC)