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Hi Timrollpickering, would you know whether Ken Richards attended Heol Gam Secondary Modern School, or Bridgend Grammar School for Boys back in the 1950s? Would you have any details on his death at the relatively you age of 37? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy ( talk) 07:13, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Excellent outcome. </sarcasm> Next time you want to try and help, don't. Srobak ( talk) 13:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
By renaming and deleting the above category, the info about the specific data is lost for Wayne County! I had created the category and linked it appropriately. This change should be undone! Jllm06 ( talk) 18:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Re this. I don't think this is your fault (probably the error of the nominator), but you've told Cydebot to merge Category:Methodist church buildings established in the 19th century into Category:19th-century Lutheran church buildings. That's bad, and will require some manual fixings. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
A pair of days ago you closed a request to rename the category "South American wars of independence" to "Spanish American wars of independence", for reasons explained at the rename request. However, it is needed to rename as well Category:Battles of the South American wars of independence and Category:People of South American wars of independence. My apologies if I had to list all categories at the top of the request, perhaps you did not see them because of that. Cambalachero ( talk) 21:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello. User:Cydebot deleted Category:Redirects from pseudonym with the edit summary "Robot - Removing category Redirects from pseudonym per CFD at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 3." I don't oppose the deletion but it was never discussed in a CFD in the link provided. I skimmed over a few other days and couldn't find it there either. Do you know what went wrong? I brought it up at User talk:Cyde#Category:Redirects from pseudonym and User:Good Olfactory told me to bring it up with you. McLerristarr | Mclay1 05:14, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, is there a "how to" somewhere for admins about implementing CFD discussions? I would like to suggest checking "what links here" on deleted or renamed categories. Several times recently I have checked this and found navbox templates or portals that linked to superseded categories. I fixed these, but it would be good to make this a standard part of the procedure for CFDs. (Other XFDs would also be nice in due course!) - Fayenatic (talk) 18:46, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Because I didn't list them properly, I don't think the subcategories have been picked up for deletion by the bot. The following categories need to be filtered off pages and deleted:
I'd get the bot to do it myself, but I don't know how. Sorry to bug you. J Milburn ( talk) 23:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article John McGeady, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Giant Snowman 13:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, IMHO the decision at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 8#Category:Companies of China was regrettable. Please would you paste a copy of the deleted category page into User:Fayenatic london/Sandbox so that I can review what hierarchy links were lost altogether? I may take it to DRV. The nomination and two subsequent supportive comments were made at a point when it was not correctly placed in a couple of hierarchies; only one editor commented in favour of deletion afterwards. - Fayenatic (talk) 23:18, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Category:Former pupils of Howell's School Llandaff, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 20:14, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
In looking at some of the latest comments, there is some rather odd timing that hints of WP:CANVASS. While the notices posted by User:Ephebi about these discussions are neutral, they appear to only be posted on user talk pages of those opposed to the change based on the opinions listed. While I realize that you have commented in some of these discussions this pass, given that you have been doing most of the closings, I wonder what wisdom you might have to offer on this. My current leaning is to close the lot as a tainted discussion. I'm also concerned since some of the responses are just being added to discussions solely on the topic and not really considering the merits of individual discussions. That further suggests a negative impact to the discussion in violation of WP:CANVASS. Please respond on my talk page and copy this request there if you like. That way if I need to ask other admins for opinions, the discussion will be in one place. Thanks. Vegaswikian ( talk) 07:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi there; please stop adding school alumni categories to BLPs if you cannot provide a reference to substantiate it. Regards, Giant Snowman 13:42, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Though your edit summaries say "cat" you seem to be on a mission against the word "alumni". Any reason for the purge? Bazj ( talk) 13:58, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_African_American_women indicated that the article should be turned in a category. I know you closed Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_July_16#Category:African_American_women, so I thought it would be the best idea to ask you to delete the page, as the first person. Curb Chain ( talk) 06:42, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I recently re-created the category Category:Irish people of Jewish descent. You'll notice the link is red, because it was delted as per you discussion here. However, as you may notice there are many categories with the formula 'X people of Jewish descent'. And while you may disagree with labeling living people, or misuse of categories, being of Jewish descent can only be true or false. I agree 'sloppy application' of the 'X Jews' categories are given, but that is because of people who identify themselves as being (or not being) Jewish. With Jewish descent however, you cannot dispute the fact that one of your anncestors may have been Jewish, in the same way if your anncestor was African. Whatever a person says about themselves, giving that person a 'x of jewish descent' cat is true - because its true. You get what I mean.
More to the point - my re-creation of the Irish people of Jewish descent (if you click the red link above), is actually different from the version that was deleted July 9th. My version has a properly structured cat links (following standard cats of 'X people of Jewish descent'), it links to the 'Irish people by ethnic or national origin' and 'people of jewish descent by nationality', both of which are container categories. You will also notice that the category is no longer empty, and in fact has Bob Geldof in it.
I believe that all the points I have made above, counteract all of the arguements used by yourself and others to delete the (not so well maintained version) originally. Please will you allow the category to reopen in the way which was created by me? Colt .55 ( talk) 20:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I fail to see how this discussion shows a consensus to keep. I can see a 'no consensus' close, but not a keep. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:27, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you close this discussion? Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 15#Category:African American women in politics I'm not sure what you would say the consensus is, but there has been an article made for this category at African American women in politics. -- Henriettapussycat ( talk) 23:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
It would be nice if the closing admin would try to give answers to questions posed in the CfD, especially when they are about proper CfD projecdure as mine at the end of the Florida Gators track and field cats merger was. I want to know how to start nominations to split and seem to be speaking into a vacuum. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:55, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 24 still lists one query unclosed. This is the Southern Sudan politicians one (or somesuch like that). Is that going to be either closed or relisted? CycloneGU ( talk) 21:10, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Why did you merge this category?-- A wr ( talk) 22:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
In response to your comment on my deletion request, the only reason I emptied this category before nominating it is because this was a duplicate of an already-existing category, and I moved the pages to that one. - Dewelar ( talk) 22:15, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Timrollpickering, Can you Filling in references using Reflinks in article Corbin Bleu see, The same article Miley Cyrus, Please help in the coordination of the article. -- 2.91.7.113 ( talk) 03:31, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
And Corbin Bleu for article: Allowed if the article lacks reliable sources. See here in this version there are better sources article. and in this version there are no sources of YouTube, Amazon. Please help in the coordination of the article seem good. And add good sources. Thanks for the contributions. -- 2.89.89.178 ( talk) 21:13, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi I see you have just taken an interest in at least one of the cats — and you are an admin. Can you help me correct them? The name of the project is Wikipedia:WikiProject Music theory — theory with a small 't'. Unfortunately most of the cats have theory with a large 'T'. I wonder if we can make all of them consistent following the small 't'. Thanks. -- Klein zach 13:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Most of the Sheffield schools have had '(Sheffield)' changed to ', Sheffield' as a dab (which IMO looks better, as it is just what one would write) and there has been no opposition that I have noticed. I tried to do the same with Notre Dame High School (Sheffield) but Notre Dame High School, Sheffield is a redirect; so an admin is needed with magical tools. Occuli ( talk) 10:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
The Category:Beyazit's sons in Ottoman interregnum has been deleted after a discussion. You’ve closed the discussion on the 13th. Everything is fine, except that the creator wasn’t invited to the discussion. I wish next time the creator will also participate in the discussion. Cheers Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 10:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
You have closed Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 August 9#Category:History books about the Argentine Republic, but you made a mistake. The discussion was not just about that specific category, but an umbrella nomination of all the subcategories of "history books about Argentina" (with the exception of "History books about WWII", a mess that should not be deleted, but have its categorization scheme checked; which is a topic for another time and place). If you agree that there is consensus to upmerge them all as described, you should delete the other categories as well. Cambalachero ( talk) 14:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Various categories, some of which you created, have been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the categories' entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Occuli ( talk) 15:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Tim, as many of the leading lights have participated in the discussion, I would like to do a Non-Admin Closure of this Alumni CFD as "rename", but lack the ability to implement it. If it would help, I am willing to close it if you or another admin would follow it through. I always feel I'm too busy editing to get round to an RfA! - Fayenatic (talk) 12:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
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Hi Timrollpickering, I'm dropping a line just to ask... are you going to "fix" all 1300 Category-Class Connecticut articles, or just the school related ones? If you're going to do just the school ones, I'd rather they all stay the same if it's alright with you. Best, Markvs88 ( talk) 21:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Regarding these edits: [1], [2], [3], (and no doubt many others), you would save the time of vandalism patrollers if you had some sort of "standard" edit comment which explained what you are doing. Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 04:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Can you rev del
this please, it's really not nice.
Puffin
Let's talk! 12:25, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello... this instruction to the bot seemed a little ill-advised. Those two categories are not equivalent. You may want to look over those changes...— Chowbok ☠ 11:22, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Would you have any interest in this important Rutabaga (please see the talk page) discussion? It seems to be going nowhere. It seems that you are interested in history and are a European, so perhaps your input would help? (Saw you at the milk article and thought you may be able to help.) Gandydancer ( talk) 00:34, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_August_8#Category:Female_pool_players needs to be relisted to gain a proper consensus, not closed. It only had !vote. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 18:09, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | → | Archive 20 |
Hi Timrollpickering, would you know whether Ken Richards attended Heol Gam Secondary Modern School, or Bridgend Grammar School for Boys back in the 1950s? Would you have any details on his death at the relatively you age of 37? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy ( talk) 07:13, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
Excellent outcome. </sarcasm> Next time you want to try and help, don't. Srobak ( talk) 13:24, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
By renaming and deleting the above category, the info about the specific data is lost for Wayne County! I had created the category and linked it appropriately. This change should be undone! Jllm06 ( talk) 18:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
Re this. I don't think this is your fault (probably the error of the nominator), but you've told Cydebot to merge Category:Methodist church buildings established in the 19th century into Category:19th-century Lutheran church buildings. That's bad, and will require some manual fixings. Good Ol’factory (talk) 04:20, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
A pair of days ago you closed a request to rename the category "South American wars of independence" to "Spanish American wars of independence", for reasons explained at the rename request. However, it is needed to rename as well Category:Battles of the South American wars of independence and Category:People of South American wars of independence. My apologies if I had to list all categories at the top of the request, perhaps you did not see them because of that. Cambalachero ( talk) 21:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
Hello. User:Cydebot deleted Category:Redirects from pseudonym with the edit summary "Robot - Removing category Redirects from pseudonym per CFD at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 3." I don't oppose the deletion but it was never discussed in a CFD in the link provided. I skimmed over a few other days and couldn't find it there either. Do you know what went wrong? I brought it up at User talk:Cyde#Category:Redirects from pseudonym and User:Good Olfactory told me to bring it up with you. McLerristarr | Mclay1 05:14, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, is there a "how to" somewhere for admins about implementing CFD discussions? I would like to suggest checking "what links here" on deleted or renamed categories. Several times recently I have checked this and found navbox templates or portals that linked to superseded categories. I fixed these, but it would be good to make this a standard part of the procedure for CFDs. (Other XFDs would also be nice in due course!) - Fayenatic (talk) 18:46, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Because I didn't list them properly, I don't think the subcategories have been picked up for deletion by the bot. The following categories need to be filtered off pages and deleted:
I'd get the bot to do it myself, but I don't know how. Sorry to bug you. J Milburn ( talk) 23:36, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute to the encyclopedia, but when you add or change content, as you did to the article John McGeady, please cite a reliable source for your addition. This helps maintain our policy of verifiability. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for how to cite sources, and the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Giant Snowman 13:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi, IMHO the decision at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 8#Category:Companies of China was regrettable. Please would you paste a copy of the deleted category page into User:Fayenatic london/Sandbox so that I can review what hierarchy links were lost altogether? I may take it to DRV. The nomination and two subsequent supportive comments were made at a point when it was not correctly placed in a couple of hierarchies; only one editor commented in favour of deletion afterwards. - Fayenatic (talk) 23:18, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Category:Former pupils of Howell's School Llandaff, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 20:14, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
In looking at some of the latest comments, there is some rather odd timing that hints of WP:CANVASS. While the notices posted by User:Ephebi about these discussions are neutral, they appear to only be posted on user talk pages of those opposed to the change based on the opinions listed. While I realize that you have commented in some of these discussions this pass, given that you have been doing most of the closings, I wonder what wisdom you might have to offer on this. My current leaning is to close the lot as a tainted discussion. I'm also concerned since some of the responses are just being added to discussions solely on the topic and not really considering the merits of individual discussions. That further suggests a negative impact to the discussion in violation of WP:CANVASS. Please respond on my talk page and copy this request there if you like. That way if I need to ask other admins for opinions, the discussion will be in one place. Thanks. Vegaswikian ( talk) 07:35, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Hi there; please stop adding school alumni categories to BLPs if you cannot provide a reference to substantiate it. Regards, Giant Snowman 13:42, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Though your edit summaries say "cat" you seem to be on a mission against the word "alumni". Any reason for the purge? Bazj ( talk) 13:58, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_African_American_women indicated that the article should be turned in a category. I know you closed Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_July_16#Category:African_American_women, so I thought it would be the best idea to ask you to delete the page, as the first person. Curb Chain ( talk) 06:42, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
I recently re-created the category Category:Irish people of Jewish descent. You'll notice the link is red, because it was delted as per you discussion here. However, as you may notice there are many categories with the formula 'X people of Jewish descent'. And while you may disagree with labeling living people, or misuse of categories, being of Jewish descent can only be true or false. I agree 'sloppy application' of the 'X Jews' categories are given, but that is because of people who identify themselves as being (or not being) Jewish. With Jewish descent however, you cannot dispute the fact that one of your anncestors may have been Jewish, in the same way if your anncestor was African. Whatever a person says about themselves, giving that person a 'x of jewish descent' cat is true - because its true. You get what I mean.
More to the point - my re-creation of the Irish people of Jewish descent (if you click the red link above), is actually different from the version that was deleted July 9th. My version has a properly structured cat links (following standard cats of 'X people of Jewish descent'), it links to the 'Irish people by ethnic or national origin' and 'people of jewish descent by nationality', both of which are container categories. You will also notice that the category is no longer empty, and in fact has Bob Geldof in it.
I believe that all the points I have made above, counteract all of the arguements used by yourself and others to delete the (not so well maintained version) originally. Please will you allow the category to reopen in the way which was created by me? Colt .55 ( talk) 20:59, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
I fail to see how this discussion shows a consensus to keep. I can see a 'no consensus' close, but not a keep. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:27, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Can you close this discussion? Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 15#Category:African American women in politics I'm not sure what you would say the consensus is, but there has been an article made for this category at African American women in politics. -- Henriettapussycat ( talk) 23:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
It would be nice if the closing admin would try to give answers to questions posed in the CfD, especially when they are about proper CfD projecdure as mine at the end of the Florida Gators track and field cats merger was. I want to know how to start nominations to split and seem to be speaking into a vacuum. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 20:55, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 July 24 still lists one query unclosed. This is the Southern Sudan politicians one (or somesuch like that). Is that going to be either closed or relisted? CycloneGU ( talk) 21:10, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Why did you merge this category?-- A wr ( talk) 22:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
In response to your comment on my deletion request, the only reason I emptied this category before nominating it is because this was a duplicate of an already-existing category, and I moved the pages to that one. - Dewelar ( talk) 22:15, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello Timrollpickering, Can you Filling in references using Reflinks in article Corbin Bleu see, The same article Miley Cyrus, Please help in the coordination of the article. -- 2.91.7.113 ( talk) 03:31, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
And Corbin Bleu for article: Allowed if the article lacks reliable sources. See here in this version there are better sources article. and in this version there are no sources of YouTube, Amazon. Please help in the coordination of the article seem good. And add good sources. Thanks for the contributions. -- 2.89.89.178 ( talk) 21:13, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi I see you have just taken an interest in at least one of the cats — and you are an admin. Can you help me correct them? The name of the project is Wikipedia:WikiProject Music theory — theory with a small 't'. Unfortunately most of the cats have theory with a large 'T'. I wonder if we can make all of them consistent following the small 't'. Thanks. -- Klein zach 13:40, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
Most of the Sheffield schools have had '(Sheffield)' changed to ', Sheffield' as a dab (which IMO looks better, as it is just what one would write) and there has been no opposition that I have noticed. I tried to do the same with Notre Dame High School (Sheffield) but Notre Dame High School, Sheffield is a redirect; so an admin is needed with magical tools. Occuli ( talk) 10:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
The Category:Beyazit's sons in Ottoman interregnum has been deleted after a discussion. You’ve closed the discussion on the 13th. Everything is fine, except that the creator wasn’t invited to the discussion. I wish next time the creator will also participate in the discussion. Cheers Nedim Ardoğa ( talk) 10:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
You have closed Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 August 9#Category:History books about the Argentine Republic, but you made a mistake. The discussion was not just about that specific category, but an umbrella nomination of all the subcategories of "history books about Argentina" (with the exception of "History books about WWII", a mess that should not be deleted, but have its categorization scheme checked; which is a topic for another time and place). If you agree that there is consensus to upmerge them all as described, you should delete the other categories as well. Cambalachero ( talk) 14:50, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Various categories, some of which you created, have been nominated for renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the categories' entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Occuli ( talk) 15:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Hi Tim, as many of the leading lights have participated in the discussion, I would like to do a Non-Admin Closure of this Alumni CFD as "rename", but lack the ability to implement it. If it would help, I am willing to close it if you or another admin would follow it through. I always feel I'm too busy editing to get round to an RfA! - Fayenatic (talk) 12:56, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
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Justin (koavf)❤
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Hi Timrollpickering, I'm dropping a line just to ask... are you going to "fix" all 1300 Category-Class Connecticut articles, or just the school related ones? If you're going to do just the school ones, I'd rather they all stay the same if it's alright with you. Best, Markvs88 ( talk) 21:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Regarding these edits: [1], [2], [3], (and no doubt many others), you would save the time of vandalism patrollers if you had some sort of "standard" edit comment which explained what you are doing. Cheers, Pdfpdf ( talk) 04:42, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Can you rev del
this please, it's really not nice.
Puffin
Let's talk! 12:25, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Hello... this instruction to the bot seemed a little ill-advised. Those two categories are not equivalent. You may want to look over those changes...— Chowbok ☠ 11:22, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Would you have any interest in this important Rutabaga (please see the talk page) discussion? It seems to be going nowhere. It seems that you are interested in history and are a European, so perhaps your input would help? (Saw you at the milk article and thought you may be able to help.) Gandydancer ( talk) 00:34, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2011_August_8#Category:Female_pool_players needs to be relisted to gain a proper consensus, not closed. It only had !vote. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 18:09, 23 August 2011 (UTC)