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Hi Tim
Given your edits on universities, I thought you might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities. Warofdreams 15:53, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
User Mark McCaghrey adds:
Thank for your correction regarding Campus Universities not being Red Brick Unversities. I was just about to make the correction myself (as the orginal author) having done a bit more reading about the subject on Wikipedia) but have replaced the reference as they are often refered to as Red Brick even if this is not strictly accurate.
However I want to dispute your deletion of my reference to public/private schools (and also the main public school article). I think the terms are used synonymously and is particularly pertitant to a discussion about higher education. As an ex-public school boy who did not go to Oxbridge I know the bias towards Oxbridge from Public schools, but also am descendents who faced the bias from the other direction.
Is there a form of words which you would be happy with to include the reference to public schools?
Tim - fancy starting the University of London Union article?
Tim -- nice to see the Category:Alumni of the University of London and Category:Lecturers of the University of London pages. However, I do worry slightly about using lecturers in the title. I deliberately called Category:UCL academics academics as a more inclusive word (on the grounds that academic encompasses researchers, and also points to the role of a lecturer or professor as both a person who lectures and a person who researches -- obviously we do not tend to say faculty in the UK). -- stochata 22:30, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Tim. It looks like you set up Category:Alumni of the University of Nottingham and Category:Lecturers of the University of Nottingham categories. I've cracked on with populating the alumni category, but I felt that 'lecturers' wasn't perhaps the best term for the other list. I think 'academics' would be broader / more inclusive. I think I would like to change this, but I thought I would give you a nod first so as not to cause offence! Thanks. Jamse 18:38, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I should read before I write! I've noticed now that stochata has made a similar point about University of London Lecturers. Searching via Category:People by university affiliation - UK I can spot a few others that are in the same form. I guess it would be helpful to obtain a consensus on which form is preferable and adopt that across the institutions. My preference is for 'academic' rather than lecturer, as it appears is stochata's. Do you have a specific preference for 'lecturer', or was that just what you happened to use on the day? Thanks. Jamse 18:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Tim - some advice might be appreciated on how to approach/combine King's College London, GKT School of Medicine and King's College School of Medicine and Dentistry. GKT no longer exists, the medical school is styled as per the GKT talk page describes but the College is very keen on integrating its faculities. Institute of Psychiatry is the most separate at present, hence probably warrants its own page, but should a level of continuity be applied? -- Coffeelover 21:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
From: Edward VIII of the United Kingdom: (although in Ireland his abdication did not take effect until the next day).
Are you sure you don't mean Northern Ireland? The Republic of Ireland, as the name suggests, has been a republic since 1915 and is not under the rule of the United Kingdom. -- Graham :) 12:52, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
It only became a Republic in 1949. And I did mean that, the North was and is part of the United Kingdom and so was covered by the same legislation as the rest of the UK. Timrollpickering 12:75 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if you could fill in the gaps we have currently in leaders of the house of lords. Currently there's some big holes in the 1930s (1931-1935,1938-1940,1940-1941), and some other holes in the 18th century. Oh, and I wasn't too sure if Lord Lansdowne was the leader in Russell's first ministry - that was a kind of educated guess. john 23:21, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to make of your edits to Stafford Cripps.
Adam 03:04, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Why would a Labour Party member who objected to MacDonald's policies in 1931 have quit the Labour Party? The whole Labour Party objected to MacDonald's policies and kicked him out. john 05:14, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
He quit before MacDonald did his deal with Baldwin and got expelled. Adam 05:18, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The Times (October 29, 1931) reveals that Tim is right on all counts and my original source (Colliers) was wrong. "Trust not to encyclopedias." Adam 10:59, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I don't see your name on the Talk:Rail transport in the United Kingdom/Alternate naming schemes voting roll... -- Tagishsimon
I think you should stop changing links for the Conservative party, while the name of the page is under discussion. Mintguy (T) 11:55, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
So what exactly was the point in moving 'Birmingham New Street Station' to 'Birmingham New Street railway station' I've never heard it called that before nor any other of the Birmingham stations. Is there any need to add 'railway' to the title of a station unless it is being disambiguated from a bus station or something? G-Man 22:23, 16 May 2004 (UTC)
I see you just created East Antrim (constituency). Are you sure you don't want to make that just East Antrim? As I write this, there is no article with that title, but there is an article that tries to link to it. See also County Antrim. - dcljr 17:40, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Help yourself, they're GFDL'd.
I can't help thinking that describing constituencies is a bit like painting the Forth Bridge - they will mostly change around 2009.
-- Keith Edkins 19:05, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Tim,
Do you have any idea of Bob McCartney's (N Down) party label between his first election in 1995 to the NI forum election in 1996?
David Boothroyd claims that he used the 'UK Unionist' label for ballot access and founded the party a year later. He wrote:
He sought election as a 'United Kingdom Unionist'. [...] In May 1996 he and his supporters formed the United Kingdom Unionist Party.
Nicholas Whyte writes that he used the UKUP name all along:
Robert McCartney soon declared himself as the candidate of the newly formed UK Unionist Party...
I've been unsure for a while. At List of UK by-elections currently has him as UKUP. - iHoshie 06:30, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Hi!
This is a message to let you know that there is now a UK-specific Wikipedia community page at Wikipedia:UK wikipedians' notice board. It would be great if you could come and get involved! -- Graham ☺ | Talk 22:51, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I notice that you were the one who added the theory about Captain Scarlet actually being a Mysteron deserter to the page. Where exactly does this theory come from? -- Antaeus Feldspar 05:07, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hehe it is in the first episode as I recall (and we are going into the dim and distant depths of my childhood here). Both he and Captain Black were captured and recruited by the Mysterons but Scarlet somehow escaped the clutches of the Mysterons whilst retaining his powers. Sjc 05:09, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
In reply to your question to Lord Emsworth, the 1st Baron Runciman was simply Walter Runciman, like his son. Walter Runciman, 1st Baron Runciman would be a better place for him than Walter Runciman (father), though. (Perhaps the creation of the Viscountcy before the inheritance of the Barony could be mentioned in the text of the article, as it explains the presence of "of Doxford" in the title.) Proteus (Talk) 11:28, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
(I have not responded because Proteus has already done so. -- Emsworth 23:56, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC))
I notice you have Earl De La Warr as the first hereditary peer to join the Labour Party. I have been doing a lot of research on the early history of the Labour Party in the House of Lords recently. It seems that there was no Labour organisation in the House until the first Labour Government was formed in 1924, but that prior to this point there were six Peers who had in some way supported the Labour Party.
Earl De La Warr, who was born in 1901 and succeeded to the title in 1915, supported the Labour Party from his late adolescence. However, reading the attendance list in the Lords Journals shows he attended only to take his seat on coming of age and to take the oath on the opening of the new Parliament, before he was appointed as a Minister in 1924. His maiden speech was his first from the front bench.
The Earl Russell was a Fabian and a member of the ILP from at least 1919.
The Earl of Kimberley had sent a message of support to the Labour candidate in South Norfolk in the 1918 general election and again in a 1920 byelection (earning him the nickname The Labour Earl in the newspapers). He was re-elected as a Labour candidate to Norfolk County Council in 1922. I would guess he was a party member from about 1920.
Viscount Haldane had spoken in support of Labour candidates in the 1923 general election, but until then had been a supporter of Asquith and the Liberal Party.
Lord Parmoor supported the Labour policy on peace in 1923 general election. The statement in "The British Labour Party" in the biography of his son Stafford Cripps that Parmoor had joined the party in 1921 would appear to be inaccurate from a reading of his memoirs, which state that he had no contact until after the 1923 election.
The 1st Earl of Loreburn (who died on 30th November 1923) had, according to the Oxford DNB, voted for Labour candidate in local election (possibly in 1922).
Is there anything you can add on the matter? I am linking in with a group which is doing more serious research on the history of the Labour Peers. Dbiv 14:15, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I see you've been busy with constituencies. Soemone recently created Parliamentary Constituencies of the UK Parliament which I just moved to United Kingdom Parliamentary Constituencies. I see we already have a category. I have a list of MPs for Lewes going back to 1298, which I got from the library a few weeks ago. It appears that it is possible to obtain complete lists from http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=2218&CATLN=3&accessmethod=5. Mintguy (T) 03:45, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
It would appear that your sources are correct. The first six Earls Winterton were all named Edward Turnour; I seem to have forgotten to enter one of them in (this problem has been rectified). -- Emsworth 17:43, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I'd like your opinion at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. Thanks. Chameleon 12:21, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...
using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. So far over 90% of people who have responded have done this.
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. It's important to know, even if you choose to do anything so I don't keep asking. -- Ram-Man ( comment| talk) 14:39, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
I've just reverted your change to Andrew Hunter's party affiliation on MPs elected in the UK general election, 2001. Whilst I've seen the news coverage of his move (eg [2]), Parliament's website still lists his as an Independent Conservative [3], and I think it's probably best to use that as the most appropriate source. — OwenBlacker 01:52, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
Regarding succession, I went and created Template:Succession box three to three. There's a full list of such boxes over at Template_talk:Succession box. Best, Mackensen (talk) 17:37, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I've gone and hacked away at Neville Chamberlain a bit -- cleared up some grammar issues. I still need to have a conversation with the word choices (there's a lot of "initially" and "whilst" showing up), but it's somewhat more streamlined now and I don't think I lost any important information. Since you listed it for peer review, I'd appreciate your input. Madame Sosostris 07:23, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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Hi Tim
Given your edits on universities, I thought you might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities. Warofdreams 15:53, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)
User Mark McCaghrey adds:
Thank for your correction regarding Campus Universities not being Red Brick Unversities. I was just about to make the correction myself (as the orginal author) having done a bit more reading about the subject on Wikipedia) but have replaced the reference as they are often refered to as Red Brick even if this is not strictly accurate.
However I want to dispute your deletion of my reference to public/private schools (and also the main public school article). I think the terms are used synonymously and is particularly pertitant to a discussion about higher education. As an ex-public school boy who did not go to Oxbridge I know the bias towards Oxbridge from Public schools, but also am descendents who faced the bias from the other direction.
Is there a form of words which you would be happy with to include the reference to public schools?
Tim - fancy starting the University of London Union article?
Tim -- nice to see the Category:Alumni of the University of London and Category:Lecturers of the University of London pages. However, I do worry slightly about using lecturers in the title. I deliberately called Category:UCL academics academics as a more inclusive word (on the grounds that academic encompasses researchers, and also points to the role of a lecturer or professor as both a person who lectures and a person who researches -- obviously we do not tend to say faculty in the UK). -- stochata 22:30, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Tim. It looks like you set up Category:Alumni of the University of Nottingham and Category:Lecturers of the University of Nottingham categories. I've cracked on with populating the alumni category, but I felt that 'lecturers' wasn't perhaps the best term for the other list. I think 'academics' would be broader / more inclusive. I think I would like to change this, but I thought I would give you a nod first so as not to cause offence! Thanks. Jamse 18:38, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I should read before I write! I've noticed now that stochata has made a similar point about University of London Lecturers. Searching via Category:People by university affiliation - UK I can spot a few others that are in the same form. I guess it would be helpful to obtain a consensus on which form is preferable and adopt that across the institutions. My preference is for 'academic' rather than lecturer, as it appears is stochata's. Do you have a specific preference for 'lecturer', or was that just what you happened to use on the day? Thanks. Jamse 18:46, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi Tim - some advice might be appreciated on how to approach/combine King's College London, GKT School of Medicine and King's College School of Medicine and Dentistry. GKT no longer exists, the medical school is styled as per the GKT talk page describes but the College is very keen on integrating its faculities. Institute of Psychiatry is the most separate at present, hence probably warrants its own page, but should a level of continuity be applied? -- Coffeelover 21:21, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
From: Edward VIII of the United Kingdom: (although in Ireland his abdication did not take effect until the next day).
Are you sure you don't mean Northern Ireland? The Republic of Ireland, as the name suggests, has been a republic since 1915 and is not under the rule of the United Kingdom. -- Graham :) 12:52, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
It only became a Republic in 1949. And I did mean that, the North was and is part of the United Kingdom and so was covered by the same legislation as the rest of the UK. Timrollpickering 12:75 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if you could fill in the gaps we have currently in leaders of the house of lords. Currently there's some big holes in the 1930s (1931-1935,1938-1940,1940-1941), and some other holes in the 18th century. Oh, and I wasn't too sure if Lord Lansdowne was the leader in Russell's first ministry - that was a kind of educated guess. john 23:21, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to make of your edits to Stafford Cripps.
Adam 03:04, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Why would a Labour Party member who objected to MacDonald's policies in 1931 have quit the Labour Party? The whole Labour Party objected to MacDonald's policies and kicked him out. john 05:14, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
He quit before MacDonald did his deal with Baldwin and got expelled. Adam 05:18, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)
The Times (October 29, 1931) reveals that Tim is right on all counts and my original source (Colliers) was wrong. "Trust not to encyclopedias." Adam 10:59, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I don't see your name on the Talk:Rail transport in the United Kingdom/Alternate naming schemes voting roll... -- Tagishsimon
I think you should stop changing links for the Conservative party, while the name of the page is under discussion. Mintguy (T) 11:55, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
So what exactly was the point in moving 'Birmingham New Street Station' to 'Birmingham New Street railway station' I've never heard it called that before nor any other of the Birmingham stations. Is there any need to add 'railway' to the title of a station unless it is being disambiguated from a bus station or something? G-Man 22:23, 16 May 2004 (UTC)
I see you just created East Antrim (constituency). Are you sure you don't want to make that just East Antrim? As I write this, there is no article with that title, but there is an article that tries to link to it. See also County Antrim. - dcljr 17:40, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Help yourself, they're GFDL'd.
I can't help thinking that describing constituencies is a bit like painting the Forth Bridge - they will mostly change around 2009.
-- Keith Edkins 19:05, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Tim,
Do you have any idea of Bob McCartney's (N Down) party label between his first election in 1995 to the NI forum election in 1996?
David Boothroyd claims that he used the 'UK Unionist' label for ballot access and founded the party a year later. He wrote:
He sought election as a 'United Kingdom Unionist'. [...] In May 1996 he and his supporters formed the United Kingdom Unionist Party.
Nicholas Whyte writes that he used the UKUP name all along:
Robert McCartney soon declared himself as the candidate of the newly formed UK Unionist Party...
I've been unsure for a while. At List of UK by-elections currently has him as UKUP. - iHoshie 06:30, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Hi!
This is a message to let you know that there is now a UK-specific Wikipedia community page at Wikipedia:UK wikipedians' notice board. It would be great if you could come and get involved! -- Graham ☺ | Talk 22:51, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I notice that you were the one who added the theory about Captain Scarlet actually being a Mysteron deserter to the page. Where exactly does this theory come from? -- Antaeus Feldspar 05:07, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Hehe it is in the first episode as I recall (and we are going into the dim and distant depths of my childhood here). Both he and Captain Black were captured and recruited by the Mysterons but Scarlet somehow escaped the clutches of the Mysterons whilst retaining his powers. Sjc 05:09, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
In reply to your question to Lord Emsworth, the 1st Baron Runciman was simply Walter Runciman, like his son. Walter Runciman, 1st Baron Runciman would be a better place for him than Walter Runciman (father), though. (Perhaps the creation of the Viscountcy before the inheritance of the Barony could be mentioned in the text of the article, as it explains the presence of "of Doxford" in the title.) Proteus (Talk) 11:28, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
(I have not responded because Proteus has already done so. -- Emsworth 23:56, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC))
I notice you have Earl De La Warr as the first hereditary peer to join the Labour Party. I have been doing a lot of research on the early history of the Labour Party in the House of Lords recently. It seems that there was no Labour organisation in the House until the first Labour Government was formed in 1924, but that prior to this point there were six Peers who had in some way supported the Labour Party.
Earl De La Warr, who was born in 1901 and succeeded to the title in 1915, supported the Labour Party from his late adolescence. However, reading the attendance list in the Lords Journals shows he attended only to take his seat on coming of age and to take the oath on the opening of the new Parliament, before he was appointed as a Minister in 1924. His maiden speech was his first from the front bench.
The Earl Russell was a Fabian and a member of the ILP from at least 1919.
The Earl of Kimberley had sent a message of support to the Labour candidate in South Norfolk in the 1918 general election and again in a 1920 byelection (earning him the nickname The Labour Earl in the newspapers). He was re-elected as a Labour candidate to Norfolk County Council in 1922. I would guess he was a party member from about 1920.
Viscount Haldane had spoken in support of Labour candidates in the 1923 general election, but until then had been a supporter of Asquith and the Liberal Party.
Lord Parmoor supported the Labour policy on peace in 1923 general election. The statement in "The British Labour Party" in the biography of his son Stafford Cripps that Parmoor had joined the party in 1921 would appear to be inaccurate from a reading of his memoirs, which state that he had no contact until after the 1923 election.
The 1st Earl of Loreburn (who died on 30th November 1923) had, according to the Oxford DNB, voted for Labour candidate in local election (possibly in 1922).
Is there anything you can add on the matter? I am linking in with a group which is doing more serious research on the history of the Labour Peers. Dbiv 14:15, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I see you've been busy with constituencies. Soemone recently created Parliamentary Constituencies of the UK Parliament which I just moved to United Kingdom Parliamentary Constituencies. I see we already have a category. I have a list of MPs for Lewes going back to 1298, which I got from the library a few weeks ago. It appears that it is possible to obtain complete lists from http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=2218&CATLN=3&accessmethod=5. Mintguy (T) 03:45, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
It would appear that your sources are correct. The first six Earls Winterton were all named Edward Turnour; I seem to have forgotten to enter one of them in (this problem has been rectified). -- Emsworth 17:43, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I'd like your opinion at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration. Thanks. Chameleon 12:21, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...
using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. So far over 90% of people who have responded have done this.
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
OR
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. It's important to know, even if you choose to do anything so I don't keep asking. -- Ram-Man ( comment| talk) 14:39, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)
I've just reverted your change to Andrew Hunter's party affiliation on MPs elected in the UK general election, 2001. Whilst I've seen the news coverage of his move (eg [2]), Parliament's website still lists his as an Independent Conservative [3], and I think it's probably best to use that as the most appropriate source. — OwenBlacker 01:52, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
Regarding succession, I went and created Template:Succession box three to three. There's a full list of such boxes over at Template_talk:Succession box. Best, Mackensen (talk) 17:37, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I've gone and hacked away at Neville Chamberlain a bit -- cleared up some grammar issues. I still need to have a conversation with the word choices (there's a lot of "initially" and "whilst" showing up), but it's somewhat more streamlined now and I don't think I lost any important information. Since you listed it for peer review, I'd appreciate your input. Madame Sosostris 07:23, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)