[1] Here are some topics I've run into that have no article written for them. Most are redirects to a (vaguely) related topic, or disambiguation pages.
If you write an article (that qualifies as more than a wp:dictdef), I'll be very impressed. Drop me a note if you do. I was surprised these were not further developed:
Here are drafts of articles I'm working on. Feel free to jump in and help:
Hey, I have now moved that page for you! :) The Helpful One 09:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell me if we will be able to create Topic outline of Physics or Medicine or other subjects? -- penubag ( talk) 18:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. I just read a bit of User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge, and it's proven quite useful so far. I'm sure I'll be able to use it to my advantage in the future. Also, I think it might actually be a good idea to advertise the outlines, so the redlinks turn blue. Thoughts? – Juliancolton | Talk 13:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that is a great idea. I will bang my head and see if a good idea comes out. I'll think of something and let you know when I do. -- penubag ( talk) 04:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Sorry about that - I thought the talk page was moved also - I have The Helpful One 11:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC) OK, I've started on these tasks: On all the pages listed at User:The Transhumanist/Country outlines, please replace: The following [[topic outline]] is provided as an overview of and introduction to ''' (not including the nowiki codes) with: "The following outline is provided as an overview of and topical guide to " (not including the quotation marks, and be sure to include the space at the end)
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Hi, This is now The Helpful One 14:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I have done the ones that AWB could do for this - the job queue should run through the other pages and null edit them to remove them from the what links here (you changed the template and the transclusion needs to be force purged on each page with a null edit). Thanks, The Helpful One 10:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC) Hi again! This task is also now The Helpful One 11:03, 9 April 2009 (UTC) I'm glad you've been able to get a computer! The addon is Update Scanner [3] I've also created an subpage where you can find other nifty addons. User:Penubag/optimum toolsets You might find some other nice addons, so take a look. -- penubag ( talk) 03:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
It's been a while. Just thought I'd say hi, hope everything is going well for you...? Best, The Rambling Man ( talk) 19:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Your name is mentioned here - just thought I'd let you know! Cheers, Majorly talk 02:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC) Well done summarizing about six months of activity! – Juliancolton | Talk 02:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC) Alright, got it (for the most part). There is one part that I don't quite understand, however:
Could you explain this further? Thanks. – Juliancolton | Talk 20:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
There are a very large numder of these articles -- it is a standard format. Is there any consensus for your moving them to "Index of"? Rmhermen ( talk) 22:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I have forwarded your query to Jerem43, who is our authority on the naming of various national cuisines. -- Zlerman ( talk) 00:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC) Reply copied from User talk:Zlerman
Before somebody had commented to "keep" the article you could have had it speedily deleted, but now I would allow the discussion to continue. Happy editing, Malinaccier ( talk) 22:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you have in mind for races and other contests but awarding medallions to some really dedicated users might be a good idea. And once you show how much their work is appreciated, they will continue to put effort and work hard as well as other users who see how much the work is appreciated.-- penubag ( talk) 07:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC) Philosophical schools include: Pythogorianism, Ecocentrism, Deep Ecology, Technocentrism, Anthropocentrism, Linguistic Philosophy, Physicalism ... and others? Granitethighs ( talk) 12:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Sorry I couldn't do the other tasks - I've been away for the past couple of weeks or so. I'm doing this task with AWB at the moment, I'll leave you a message once it has been completed. Thanks, The Helpful One 13:33, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Please don't ever put up entries like you did at the Template talk page. The page was clearly not an expansion, was linked to the talk page, and was put in two different areas. Such things are a violation of WP:POINT. Ottava Rima ( talk) 19:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
LOL .. my bad. ;P — Ched : ? 21:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC) Hi TT, I'm still around, but I haven't really found the time to contribute lately besides making small tweaks here and there. I started out at a new school 7~8 months ago and I've been rather consumed by the more rigorous academics here. Feel free to take me off the volunteer list if having inactive members is an convenience (I don't know if the messages are automated) or you just want to keep the list tidy. — xDanielx T/ C\ R 21:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey adding to this, I am still around however I have been snowed under mountains of university work for a while, spending what wiki time I have over at WP:TIJ. I am planning to come back at some point in the future, however probably move me to inactive for the moment until that happens. I have been following what is happening over here however so feel free to keep posting your messages! Well I graduate the end of this year, maybe see more of me in 2010 good luck! Dex1337 ( talk) 02:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC) I'm still around, too, but haven't been active for a while. I'm having trouble keeping up with everything I need to do and want to do. I'm like the others; I'd love to still be on the list but if you would prefer it to be just for active members, feel free to take me off. Kathy ( talk) 01:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I am probably asking a silly question that is answered somewhere obvious but ... how deeply will the hierarchical structure delve? For example willl there be a hierarchical set of categories for Geography and will each of these categories in turn have a hierarchical structure if it is useful? Granitethighs ( talk) 05:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi TT. I've done a little work hunting hidden outlines and I hoped to get a little feedback on what I've done so far. I've ignored the indexes of articles that seem rather common (For example List of sexology topics) because they aren't properly outlines, but if those are also what you're looking for I could include those in my search. Perhaps a list of them should be collected to move to Wikipedia space, since they mostly function as worklists with red-linked articles and would be redundant after OOK is more complete. Cheers, Gimme danger ( talk) 21:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I haven't made up my mind about the move. However, if there is consensus in support of the move from the list of psychology topics to the index of psychology topics, you have to create an automatic redirect for the list because there are internal links from other Wikipedia entries to the list. Iss246 ( talk) 04:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm contacting yourself and some other uninvolved editors to see if you would be willng to read through an RfC at the Article Rescue Squad. It will be far from the most glamourous use of your time but it will help us see if we have reached a decision on this issue. I think the discussion has died down and concensus has been reached but another user has posited I'm misreading this. For the moment I've left my comments in the "Motion to close" and collapsed template in place but if others agree there is no consensus I'm fine removing or reworking them. The discussion itself isn't too brutal and the comments have stayed reasonably well organized so it shouldn't take long. Please read the RfC and discussion and offer your take in the "Motion to close" section. Thank you! -- Banjeboi 13:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
If you are going to move pages such as List of chess topics (and you probably shouldn't), please clean up the links to redirects that are left over: Special:WhatLinksHere/List_of_chess_topics. Especially important are links such as the
link at WP:CHESS that you broke. 165.189.101.177 ( talk) 14:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean by moving it from project space. Those talk links are really distracting. I've hidden them (see List of mathematics articles (A) for an example of another index that uses this approach), but they are still there so that the talk pages show up on recent changes results. The Transhumanist 00:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I have done this task, some pages were skipped - those without any changes. Pages that were skipped (no changes)
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Hi "Transhumanist, The." {smiles} Per the stipulations at WP:CANVASSING, I've pinged your talk page to "appropriately canvass" you wrt the deletion discussion currently taking place at " WP:Articles for deletion/Home and family blog." (Note that I've also pinged the talkpages of all of your fellow participants at last years deletion discussion at " WP:Articles for deletion/List of blogs," to ensure that my notifications are to are small number of wiki-contributors that have been neutrally selected.) I hope you'll consider taking part in our discussion. Thanks. ↜Just me, here, now … 07:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
There was a previous decision to move this to project space: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cryptography topics — Matt Crypto 14:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you always make so many radical changes without any discussion or consensus? Whether your changes are for the betterment of the project or not, it's quite uncollegial to edit in such a manner. Please don't do that again. -- Brangifer ( talk) 03:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there a draft template for basic outlines, like there was for the country pages? Or do I actually have to build Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of tropical cyclones manually? :) – Juliancolton | Talk 00:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Gimme danger ( talk) 03:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC) I have to say, I'm impressed with how quickly the outlines are evolving. My availability has declined somewhat, but I will continue to contribute to the outlines when I can. And yes, I am involved in the tropical cyclones WikiProject. This seems like such a fundamental change to the encyclopedia, and yes there are gaps, but that's where the editors come in :-) . Good job. ~ A H 1( T C U) 23:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC) I have nominated Outline of South Africa, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outline of South Africa. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Chris DHDR 12:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)Greetings, TT! I suggested that your query might be better posted on the Mathematics Ref Desk but didn't carry out the move myself, thinking that perhaps I simply don't fathom your having posted it on the Humanities RD. So, the move is up to you, while I'll just advise that it ought to be one or the other (or yet another, as I don't know anything about tree structure except this brief look just now), and not crossposted simultaneously, which doesn't give the respondents the benefit of reading each others' remarks. -- Deborahjay ( talk) 22:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC) Hi Transhumanist! Could you please clarify what you mean by "We'll definitely need the rest of the awards in place before we take the project to the next level." What do you mean by "awards in place"? Are you referring to the creation of specific topic awards such as for medicine? -- penubag ( talk) 07:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, started up user:penubag/graphics again. I finished up the math medallion just now, just waiting for the text. -- penubag ( talk) 07:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't be shy. Here they are... What are the benefits of a tree structure?The article doesn't say. I'm interested, because I need to explain the benefits in the guideline on outlines I'm writing. (Outlines are a type of tree structure). I've also asked the question at various reference desks, and these threads may help to jump start your brain on this question. :)
What benefits have you noticed? How are Wikipedia's outlines useful to you? I look forward to your answers. The Transhumanist 04:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Transhumanist, please remove me from your talk page message list. Thank you and have a nice day! Zvika ( talk) 05:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC) I had a quick browse through the Outline of Libya page, and it looks good. Will try to have another look in greater detail soon, but so far so good. Jaw101ie ( talk) 07:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I've been away for a few weeks so I've not managed to do this task yet. However, I'm back now, and I am running this task on AWB as I type this message. I will leave you another message when the task is completed. Thanks, The Helpful One 17:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
What do you think the ultimate goal should be for outlines on Wikipedia? I'm doubtful any of them will ever make FL-status, but should we build an assessment scale for the wikiproject? Just a thought. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I haven't been active on the outlines for a while now, but I understand that certain country outlines are significantly better than others? So wouldn't that mean an unfair advantage for certain country WikiProjects? -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Have retired with only infrequent small contributions made during actual wiki use since. Will definately not be participating in any projects any time soon, sorry!. └ VodkaJazz / talk ┐ 01:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey there. Julian told me to ask you if you had any more AWB work for him, and to do some of it to help his workload. So, anything? NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 03:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 04:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC) I am sorry, have retired from Wikipedia, for the time being. I may get back into it during the summer but most likely not. I have gotten to addicted to the game Combat Arms, and surfing the web, and Skype, and Twitter, hanging out with my friends, and being with my girlfriend, I don't have time for Wikipedia any more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackadam2 ( talk • contribs) 05:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
To promote work on the country outlines, maybe a contest between country WikiProjects could be run, to see which WikiProject could develop the best country outline. What do you think? (I look forward to your reply on my talk page). The Transhumanist 23:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
A WikiProject race - I like the idea - it will hopefully work not only to complete the pages but publicise them. (I noticed the pages have all been WikiProject tagged) Highfields ( talk, contribs, review) 15:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC) Ps. I've nearly finished the currency filling in task you gave me ages ago - it's been slow because I've been very busy and will be again very soon but it should be done in about a week.
(Every little bit helps!) Just to let you know; I have added the Canada Provinces to the Outline of Knowledge. I am currently working on them trying to get them up to being legit. I need help and thought you or someone else could offer me some assistance. Thanks Burningview ( talk) 18:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Hi there, For this task - are you sure that you have given me the right sandbox? That sandbox doesn't really have any links on it - perhaps you have given me the wrong one? Thanks, The Helpful One 17:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi again, This task is now The Helpful One 19:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your commentary about the Outline of Organic Chemistry page. My original concern was due to the occasional punchy nature where often content will get deleted in the churn of creating/modifying content. This page is one of the oldest pages on Wikipedia, and its edit history shows aspects of that history as well. I still think pages of this nature get deleted from the main-line content pages of Wikipedia far too often, particularly when the content shows some age compared to the fortunately ever improving content of the rest of the project. As my comment on the talk page is already two years old, even that shows a bit of history now. Again, thank for the reply that I wasn't even expecting. That is a good pick-me-up for the day. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 15:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC) I'll help you out at -210 discovered elements ∞ what am I? 20:05, 20 May 2009 (UTC) You've got 7K more edits than I do, I don't really see how I can help! I'm also unclear how the outline of knowledge will improve over categories. I'll try looking into it a bit, but I'm not really interested in a big project right now. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 20:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Hi, I have a suggestion for the design centre-maybe you could add a section on formatting your signature-although not technically userpage-would still be very useful?! dottydotdot ( talk) 20:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I note you have been moving numerous "outline" drafts into main namespace (such as here). Note that these aren't valid article titles, unless they are discussing something known as an "outline", citing eferences establishing the notability of said "outlines". As long as "outline of X" is just a stubby fork of the "X" article, it is in violation of WP:CFORK and needs to be merged or redirected. -- dab (𒁳) 10:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
@ Skaterthealmighty: @ Skaterthealmighty: ![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 01:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Hey I saw your request on my talk page. I wanted to let you know I was not ignoring you, however I'm at Walt Disney World right now, and haven't had a chance to give you a reply. Quite a task you've taken on though that I see. When I get back on again full-time I'll make sure to drop in my $.02. Wildthing61476 ( talk) 18:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
OK I'm back from vacation and ready to throw in my $.02 here. This is a rather ambitious project, and from what I see it looks good. I know there has been discussion on WP:AN on this, but I think this is a good centralize point for people to use on various projects. As for the contest, that seems a bit trickier, while it will lead to better article being written, in my opinion at least it takes away a bit as to what Wikipedia is, being a all-volunteer project with the reward being knowledge for everyone. Wildthing61476 ( talk) 19:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Talk:Government of Nepal, which refers questions to you, discusses Outline of Nepal. So why isn't that discussion at Talk:Outline of Nepal, so its editors will see it? Government of Nepal is a new redirect to Politics of Nepal, so I would think anything on its talk page should be about the redirect. Art LaPella ( talk) 20:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Re this message, Outline of Politics of Ukraine#Government and politics of Politics of Ukraine doesn't exist; however Outline of Ukraine#Government and politics of Politics of Ukraine does and I've updated and corrected it. -- Timberframe ( talk) 21:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
The Helpful One 22:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Good morning! (or afternoon, or evening, or whatever time it is when you read this; I've never been any good working out time differences). You raised a number of points on my talk page, and so I'm here to address them. Now, it seems your product's biggest selling point is interconnectivity (oh God, I sound like I'm on The Apprentice). Every user on this encyclopedia is here to improve Wikipedia ( at least we hope so), and so, theoretically, every user would want to help with a project that coordinates most of the encyclopedia's work. In practice, however, most people just want to get on and do what they're most comfortable with. Because of this, I would recommend requesting help form the relevant WikiProject for each Outline page. If you market (there I go again) the Outline as not only a way to improve readers' knowledge about a particular subject, but also to help recruit editors for that WikiProject, I'm sure they'ld (is that a word?) be willing to help. That said, there will, of course, be a number of editors who would want to help with all aspects, and so placing an ad wouldn't hurt. I suspect that most people who would want to help with this type of project would be WikiGnomes, and so keep on the lookout for behind-the-scenes workers. Finally, a notice or two at the the Village Pump wouldn't go amiss. Stay tuned for more in this brand new series about advice for the accompanying webpage. Next time: Weebiloobil thrillingly details the improvements that could be made to User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge. Presented by: weebiloobil ( talk) 08:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
As the driving force behind the Outline of Knowledge project, this AN thread about people complaining about (and threatening to AFD/MFD) much of the project will be of great interest to you. Could you please comment there please? NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 04:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I strongly support the project, and will say so as necessary--I just commented at the VP. But I do not think posting additional notices at this point is a good idea. We should be editing current outlines before we get involved with more. DGG ( talk) 00:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, This task is now Thanks, The Helpful One 14:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Hi, I've been thinking about the matter of spreading the OoK to editors all over Wikipedia; it is quite a detailed navigation system and can definitely help users to look for what they want to find. I'm aware that this undertaking is no minor one; spreading awareness about this project across Wikipedia is not easy. Thus, I advise you to perhaps ask for help from every avilable source. The WikiAd a good place to start, if you haven't already tried it. Then there comes the arduous task of asking others to inform their acquaintances around Wikipedia. It's slow, but it works nevertheless. Finally, I suggest that you try to ask the Admins for help; they might have something up their sleeves. If all else fails, perhaps you can try the advertisement space they usually reserve for the big projects, like the pop up box they design for donations (the ones at the top of your page, during the donation periods). You can also create cards and userboxes (how do you like to search Wiki easily and hassle free??--not a good slogan, but you get the idea of what to put on the cards/userboxes) and put it on your talk page, send it to your acquaintances and ask them to send it to theirs; it's so much easier than to send a message over and over again. Plus, cards are better at grabbing people's attention, especially if it's particularly neat.
PS: Sorry for the late reply; I'm pretty busy of late and I am using an old computer now, so I try not to log in as much as possible, for fear of slowing it down. And I don't come online that often anymore either, so pardon me if my replies are a little late. I'll try to log in once a week to check on my mails, so do send me a message if you need help. I'm too lazy to archive my talk page too, so it's a little too cluttered now...sob. Anyways, peace and out. =) Hi
Bring on the AWB tasks when ready. – Juliancolton | Talk 13:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
hey Transhumanist, sorry for being so inactive all of a sudden. I'm extremely busy IRL and will continue to be until after this week. I'll reply when I get the chance. Thanks. -- penubag ( talk) 03:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC) sure... AWB work is interesting to say the least. lets me practice Regexes :). let me know ChiragPatnaik ( talk) 11:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC) Hey, I just wanted to check up on any new AWB tasks for me, as you said you had a few more for me to do. Are you still working on collating them, or did I just miss one on my talk page? Thanks, NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 20:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC) These articles have the nesting of Environment -> Ecology -> Renewable energy. Renewable energy is not a subset of ecology. Also, having articles with the title "Ecology of Country" is incorrect. Ecology does not end at a political boundary. Environmental issues and environment do however have political boundaries since environmental policy and environmental law can end at such a boundary. Cheers. -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 22:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Howdy. 2 separate issues. Do you have a person you'd suggest (or could ask), to do some AWB talkpage tagging with the {{ WikiProject Glossaries}} banner, of the articles in Category:Glossaries and Portal:Contents/List of glossaries. (and perhaps make a list of any that don't appear in both? I'm not sure how subcategories should be worked in or accounted though...) Also, some of these are coming up for deletion again (eg List of Internet-related terminology), and it'd be nice to get some of these issues ironed out, or new thoughts arrived at that don't waste(as in kill) the information. (So many discussions, so little consensus, so hard to remember where it all is, and what all the pertinent points are...:( Any ideas? -- Quiddity ( talk) 02:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC) Hmmm, at a glance, Category:Lists of terms seems to be a mix of indexes, and topic lists, and glossaries. I'll stare at this later, if you don't first. Wine and a sunny porch are calling... -- Quiddity ( talk) 02:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Please comment at that page about an AWB posting task that I did for you. Thanks, The Helpful One 09:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm currently taking a wikibreak, I will do your instructions when I get back.-- SKATER Speak. 14:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC) ![]() Message added 23:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
→ Dylan 620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 00:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC) Looking around your User-page, I'm not sure I'm the right person to adopt you - you really need specialised advice about running projects and attracting editor's attention, and I'm not really familiar with either of these. However, I am happy to give you some advice about attracting attention. Firstly, I would suggest developing a number of Project templates which can be placed on relevant articles, so that editors working on those articles can help with the project. Since your project will be involved in a number of mainstream topics, this should raise awareness significantly. I would also recommend developing a userbox for all project members, so that they can advertise their involvement in the project and so that other users can see it on their User page. If you don't want to make the userbox yourself, you could leave a note at WP:Userboxes/Ideas, or request it from a user whose userboxes you like (a number of editors, including myself, will make userboxes if requested). Similarly, you might want to develop, or ask another user to develop, an advert to gain attention. Many people display randomised ads on their User pages, but the template can be set to display one ad in particular if you want to use just your ad. Finally, you might wish to create an 'invitation' template, or even just a short message, which can be left on pages of users that you think might be interested in the project. Once all these are done, you can add them to the project page, so that new members can easily find them and help to raise awareness. Even if these measures don't increase membership, they will help spread the word about your project. I hope these ideas are useful to you, and that you find some-one more experienced to help you out. If you need any more advice, please leave another message at my Talk page and I'll do my best to help. strdst_grl (call me Stardust) 08:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Nice title ;) And by golly are your posts tl;dr much... Anyway, for your questions, sorry if this isn't exactly the length or quality of response you're looking for, but I'm rather pressed for time at the minute with exam revision and such. My main idea would be to include some kind of reward at next year's WikiCup (inclusion this year would be practically unworkable with both the stage of the contest as well as the fact that the rules have already been altered excessively and I'm sure you'll appreciate that a whole new item to score from would be a rather avoidable inclusion. As for people in particular to help out with your scheme, I'm pretty dry on idea there I'm afraid. I'd look for bot operators who are used to small repetitive edits or even some people from MILHIST who have regular (well, relatively) contests involving mass tagging and reviewing which sounds a similar process to the one you plan to undertake. I wish you the very best of luck in this endeavour - you might need it. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 10:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
This has now been The Helpful One 16:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC) Hi, I saw your post on my talk page about WP:WPOOK. I am very interested in this project, as I think the outlines will increase traffic. I do have a few ideas on how to acheive the goals which you've requested. I like how the exsisting outlines are structured, but think we could expand with a few words about each sub-topic, to give readers info about what they're looking at. The best way of advertising the OOK is of course, the main page, which I thought could be organized like portals are. Each general topic could link to the actual outline of the subject. I will help out in any way I can. I look forward to expanding the current outlines and, in time, leaving portals forever. Thank you! T-95 ( talk) 17:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello there thanks for your ask and i will be hapopoy to help you any way i can, though I am not mr perfect, i tend to try to think who is reading this article and aim it that way, and sod the recommendations. most of the time i get my way because it is not of ignorance but sense. So delioberately i have not read your project articles yet *(will do in a bit) but yeah quite happy to help, as i say i am ver picky for spelling and grammar and that kind of nonsense but more than anything i want articles to make sense and that crap can come second. anyone tells y9ou otherwise refer them to me. SimonTrew ( talk) 20:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC* Excuse me i should add i just got a new netbook and am having some trouble getting used to its little keyboard so please excuise my typing nerrors quite embarrassing! 20:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Please be aware that the adoption WikiProject is not ment to be a vehicle for canvassing (I suggest you read that guidelines thouroughly before you attempt any such thing like contacting all regular editors). I don't support your attitude of competing with Portals and "leaving them in the dust", we shouldn't be competing with our own content although there's nothing wrong with complementary work. I think you should slow down and convince people why this all is important instead of expecting that thousands of editors will start working on your project. If you seek editors to write outlines on certain topics, you can contact the relevant wikiproject. But again, don't start canvassing all wikiprojects, it's considered spam as you rightly point out. -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 21:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello there, I will try to help, even though I think you have more experience on WP than I. What May help on your WP page is to have a page which many other WP call "Outreach" SK Outreach WP Outreach, Baseball Outreach Sometimes as in the case of Baseball outreach, the page is devoted solely to the newsletter. However many of the other wikiprojects and or outreach pages also have a welcome template of some sort. I guess further to this a pattern that is developing on some WP projects is to discover who the new editors are which have an interest in their particular WP. This robot helps to identify who likes to write about Japan for example for the WP Japan project. However that would not help the WP:WPOOK as much as for instance asking the robot to keep looking for those folks who have written "Outline of foo" page already, and also including those who have written "List of Foo" pages. Then editors who already show an interest in the WP "Outline of" content could be extended a welcome. (The robot also helps with category, WP talk page banner and list classifications as well). The other pattern would be to see which editors like to edit "Outline of foo" pages, by placing "Outline of Foo" pages on outreach editors watchlist and providing a welcome to them. An "outline of Foo" should/could also be used to enhance a "Foo:portal". Many portals are using tabbed pages now, and I personally think again, that a portal would blososom if the "topic of foo" page were added to the portal as one of the portals tabbed pages. (However this page wouldn't rotate its content) Portals introduce rotating featured subject foo content, rotating featured images, rotating featured biographies, (The best of the best) and categories to the reader, and an outline tab would also introduce the reader to more about the subject foo as well... However the bad part about outlines is that if the reader goes to an outline of foo page and sees a huge tree of outlines/topices, etc, but nowhere on the outline page is the sub-topic the teacher assigned for study, then the person may rightly or wrongly assume it is not on WP and leave without doing an independent search to see if such an area was created after the topic outline was made. Perhaps a usefull template would be an incomplete outline template such as an incomplete list template which would encourage other viewers to see what is incomplete and encourage additions. (and requests) I see there is this one for a subject talk page Template:Outline of knowledge coverage, (Which could be put on soooo many subject pages) but there should be one for the main outline page or section - "incomplete outline tag" as well (unless there is one already). I see you hae already contemplated contests. Some past ideas that work sometimes are collaborations, and article (outline) improvement drives. Sometimes they work better with a newsletter. Personally I think the outline pages would help to develop WP in the same way that a list complements a category, so I hope you do well in your WP:WPOOK endeavours. A category shows what is done to date, and a list shows what is still to do, as well as what is done for an example. An outline complements navboxes, infoboxes, but in more detail as empty infobox fields are not used in an article, but they perhaps are red links (to do) in an outline. Oh my goodness this became a lo-o-o-ong reply, but I hope a nugget of it is of some help to you in some way. Maybe these things you are doing already, but I missed them, in that case I am sorry, Tried to scan through your progress thus far, and you have done a lot! (Really good job BTW) Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 01:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Sure, that would work IMO. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so my idea is this: we merge This page into the portal section. This way we don't interfere with the portals to start with, and our idea is out there. I have not requested this be on the main page yet, as to see your opinion. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. T-95 ( talk) 12:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I notice your page is getting a little long, maybe you should Archive it. I know Miszabot does it automaticly.-- SKATER Speak. 13:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought I was doing Wikipedia a service helping out with the Outlines project, and did not realize there are users on here that object to the idea of it so harshly. I appreciate the kind words and will work with you on this project. I have recruited users who have more knowledge than me on Canada's provinces to help out. I will admit that I am ignorant with the subject, but the idea went off in my head at the time to create the O of BC page because I thought it would be a good thing to have comprehensive, and great outlines for the Canadian provinces; like the U.S. states have. Thanks for the support. Burningview ( talk) 00:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Re: WP:WPOOKAlright, allow me to give you my two cents on this project. Honestly, it looks like your diving head-first one of the largest tasks I've ever seen a user attempt to do! And there's nothing wrong with that: boldness is an excellent quality to see in an editor such as yourself. You've started a WikiProject that has a pretty decent future, something that seems like it will provide a foundation for the rest of Wikipedia to branch off of. Now, you asked about a way to contact editors to help the project grow in size. Attracting editors it a difficult task, and almost all WikiProjects have some trouble doing it. Here's a few suggestions, really meant as a form of brainstorming:
I hope that this helps! Regards, The Earwig ( Talk | Editor review) 02:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea. Usually (with me) I take on the easy, but time-consuming tasks on Wikipedia like categorization; i.e. tagging articles under the scope of there respective WikiProjects related to them. Also putting template messeges at the top of articles.(Of course I'm sure you know about all of this; so no need of explaining, LOL). It is only when creative inspiration strikes me that excites me to do something greater on Wikipedia. But I will be offering my services to WOOK for the meantime. All this attention I have recieved in the past few days over an article I created; really has motivated me to get on Wikipedia more often, its alot more exciting. Burningview ( talk) 02:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
Thanks, The Helpful One 16:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Hi there, Wow! I didn't even notice that I had signed the page! Ah, it might have been because when I added the </nowiki> tag to the end of where it was supposed to be, it used my signature instead of the one that was supposed to be yours. :S I would love to do that task, but right now I need to get some sleep, perhaps tomorrow! ;) Thanks, The Helpful One 22:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Hi there, It seems that changing the template did the trick for this? Do you have any other plans for any other category renames, because I put through a bot task approval request to do the task - I've been approved for 30 trial edits, but now there's nothing to edit! The Helpful One 18:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to move categories, actually... – Juliancolton | Talk 20:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry, but as unexpected obstacles arose, i will be unable to answer your questions in a timely manner. This does not mean you need a new mentor, i will still help every 2-3 days. In about 6 business days I should fully be back. at -210 discovered elements ∞ what am I? 22:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Here? I'm pretty sure I removed about 99% of the bad links by fixing a few templates. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC) I answered the queries at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Outline_of_knowledge#Community_consensus, but not the one at Wikipedia talk:Outlines which I'm inclined to agree with. This top-of-article-notice/hatlink is a bit too much, considering the current quality of most of the outlines, and the hidden comment explanation is unnecessary (and immodestly phrased). I'd recommend we stick with links in =See also= sections, for now. Slow and steady wins the race; hasty promotion will attract more vitriol than support. Also, I've added a line with a few examples of the best work, to the lede at Wikipedia:Outlines. Feel free to change the examples/wording/placement, but let's keep a list of 3 good examples near the top of that page. -- Quiddity ( talk) 19:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC) The outlines aren't complete, but they are complete enough to be useful to readers. And what good is a table of contents hidden in the back? Tables of contents are most useful in the front. The hatnote issue is very similar to adding the "Contents" link to the sidebar. And you opposed that too, on the grounds that the system wasn't ready to be displayed. Shenme captured the essence of the situation very well:
The OOK needs editors for each of its pages, and for the essential pages it's missing. Relying on a small team to finish all of this will take decades. (Do the math). I've been on this project for almost 4 years already! So, if hatnotes will benefit readers while attracting editors to these pages, then that looks like a pretty damn good solution to me. The Transhumanist 23:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, please read this and WP:IECOLL. Please realise that Ireland related article titles are not to be touched as per the Arbcom ruling. I'd recommend you self revert you edits and wait before renaming dozens of article. MITH 00:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. SarekOfVulcan ( talk) 01:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC) Sorry for replying exclusively on my talk page but I didn't want to start a bunch of new sections. -- penubag ( talk) 18:08, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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at User:The Transhumanist/Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics – Juliancolton | Talk 01:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC) My pleasure to help, and I will be glad to continue working on them. If you ever need backup in one of these anti-outline debates be sure to ask me, they have my fullest support. Highfields ( talk, contribs, review) 11:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I will, and again thanks for the support. Your words are encouraging. Let us continue our efforts to make your vision for outlines on Wikipedia a reality. You keep up the great work yourself! That you for your lengthy message on my talk page. Unfortunately I have been on an extended Wikibreak and did not receive your message until recently. I hope you found someone else to assist you, but if you are still looking for help, please let me know. Tiggerjay ( talk) 23:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Greetings Transhumanist, I have been organizing categories under "theories" for a while now recently. I have made some proposals to move stuff around. I thought you might be interested in the discussion at WT:PHILO. You might also want to take a look at User:Gregbard/Concepts and theories (although I don't think we necessarily need another task force about it.) This is what I was talking about having a consistent format with all the isms, etcetera. Pontiff Greg Bard ( talk) 04:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC) OK, if it is hard to put outlines into the wikicup, then reverse take the wonderfulness of the wikicup and plop it into the outlines WP as its own Outlines WP contest game type thingie. I didn't even know about the wikicup, and have been involved in two separate contest type games to make editing WP fun. So invent your own outline marathon, outline extravaganza, outline fanfare, there have been some wonderful images made in connection with the outline wikiproject, perhaps there could be 2 or 3 awards given out for different objectives of the outlines contest game and set into a table or template style format like awarding a barnstar or wikilove in a template. Then it can have points awarded differently than the wikicup, and pertinent for outlines. Let folks know, Give it a future starting /ending date etc. etc. depending on what is desired for an outcome SriMesh | talk 04:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I would list everything I did but it's pretty apparent (unlike some of my other projects). Let me know what you think! -- penubag ( talk) 07:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Would it be possible to write a string of regex to replace the state-by-state find and replace selections? – Juliancolton | Talk 18:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
"For a topical guide to this subject, see Outline of games. <!--PLEASE LEAVE THIS LINE IN PLACE as it leads to the page that serves as the table of contents for this subject's coverage across Wikipedia. Thank you.-->" - has this emerged from a games-related Wikiproject somewhere, or is it your own idea? I thought the standard way of linking this sort of article was a navigation template at the side or the bottom of the article. Is there a reason why a navigation template isn't appropriate here? -- McGeddon ( talk) 23:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) 02:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC) ![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) 04:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Hey transhumanist thanks for your note on my talk page. i have left a cpouple of thoughts on the article talk page i appreciate it is early days so havent cleaned up the page at all but more than happy to sub it at the appropriate time. i was thinking that the banner should be white on purple cadburys style (that is quite global in the us they licence to hersheys) but that may be even as colours a copyright or trademark infringement i am not sure. SimonTrew ( talk) 05:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
...but I'm still trying to figure out this regex feature... – Juliancolton | Talk 14:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I forgot all about this task! I've added a request for my bot to be able to do this task, as well as category renaming here. I'll let you know when I get onto the task. Thanks, The Helpful One 16:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC) I need your opinion on a situation I've been handling for a little over a month. I came across a flame war while I was on another vandal hunting spree, after reading through it I left both
User:Kingoomieiii and the IP address
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Hi, Sorry for the late reply as I'm currently on a Wikibreak. From what I gather, WP:WPOOK shares interests with a lot of other WikiProjects. Like for example, outline of mathematics also falls under the scope of the Mathematics WikiProject, and possibally, many others as well. So the best idea would be to approach each and every relevant WikiProject, and try to get one or more active members from that project under WP:WPOOK who would be responsible for the outlines that also fall under their project. Partnering with other projects would help you gain dedicated members as well as wide spread reach. But you would have to be involved in a lot of dicussions, general concesus building and even disputes, as there may also be some conflicts. I'd still recommend you to go down this road though, as it would be the best way to accomplish your goals. UzEE 14:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC) Hmm...so it seems that there has been some riot going on with the outline. I did not expect anyone to ever oppose this nice privilege which would definitely help users a lot; if they can't understand what an outline is supposed to do, perhaps an essay regarding the topic would be good enough to clear some of their doubts, if not all. As it is, there're not too many people going against the outline (from what I understand about the report you sent me), so I think you'll have to act quickly. I'm sure you're doing everything you can do, but have you created cards? Try making one about the outline and them to everyone you can think of. Yes, even those who do not agree with the outline. Perhaps it might make them change their mind, if only a little. As for including Jimbo Wales in the awards process, I'm sure, if someone asks him, and if he's not too busy, he'll respond kindly enough. Of course, you'll have to get the contest going on first before asking him. I hope this helps. Cheers, Zachary crimsonwolf 03:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Transhumanist. I noticed you opposed my first RfA, which occurred about a year and a half ago. If you have the time, do you think you could give me an editor review and tell me what issues I still have that may hinder my chances at a successful RfA in the near future? Thanks. Tim meh !( review me) 15:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC) What exactly do you mean by "whats missing"? You mean the Canadian Provinces? Or something else? Not sure what opinion you want me to give. Burningview ( talk) 20:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Hi, I see you are undertaking some sort of tasks with the lists. for your interest the List of words having different meanings in British and American English is partially ridiculous. I posted on the talk page if you are interested in giving opinions. ~ R. T. G 21:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC) |
[1] Here are some topics I've run into that have no article written for them. Most are redirects to a (vaguely) related topic, or disambiguation pages.
If you write an article (that qualifies as more than a wp:dictdef), I'll be very impressed. Drop me a note if you do. I was surprised these were not further developed:
Here are drafts of articles I'm working on. Feel free to jump in and help:
Hey, I have now moved that page for you! :) The Helpful One 09:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Can you tell me if we will be able to create Topic outline of Physics or Medicine or other subjects? -- penubag ( talk) 18:28, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. I just read a bit of User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge, and it's proven quite useful so far. I'm sure I'll be able to use it to my advantage in the future. Also, I think it might actually be a good idea to advertise the outlines, so the redlinks turn blue. Thoughts? – Juliancolton | Talk 13:44, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that is a great idea. I will bang my head and see if a good idea comes out. I'll think of something and let you know when I do. -- penubag ( talk) 04:53, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Sorry about that - I thought the talk page was moved also - I have The Helpful One 11:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC) OK, I've started on these tasks: On all the pages listed at User:The Transhumanist/Country outlines, please replace: The following [[topic outline]] is provided as an overview of and introduction to ''' (not including the nowiki codes) with: "The following outline is provided as an overview of and topical guide to " (not including the quotation marks, and be sure to include the space at the end)
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Hi, This is now The Helpful One 14:59, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I have done the ones that AWB could do for this - the job queue should run through the other pages and null edit them to remove them from the what links here (you changed the template and the transclusion needs to be force purged on each page with a null edit). Thanks, The Helpful One 10:54, 9 April 2009 (UTC) Hi again! This task is also now The Helpful One 11:03, 9 April 2009 (UTC) I'm glad you've been able to get a computer! The addon is Update Scanner [3] I've also created an subpage where you can find other nifty addons. User:Penubag/optimum toolsets You might find some other nice addons, so take a look. -- penubag ( talk) 03:16, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
It's been a while. Just thought I'd say hi, hope everything is going well for you...? Best, The Rambling Man ( talk) 19:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Your name is mentioned here - just thought I'd let you know! Cheers, Majorly talk 02:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC) Well done summarizing about six months of activity! – Juliancolton | Talk 02:56, 12 April 2009 (UTC) Alright, got it (for the most part). There is one part that I don't quite understand, however:
Could you explain this further? Thanks. – Juliancolton | Talk 20:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
There are a very large numder of these articles -- it is a standard format. Is there any consensus for your moving them to "Index of"? Rmhermen ( talk) 22:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
I have forwarded your query to Jerem43, who is our authority on the naming of various national cuisines. -- Zlerman ( talk) 00:30, 14 April 2009 (UTC) Reply copied from User talk:Zlerman
Before somebody had commented to "keep" the article you could have had it speedily deleted, but now I would allow the discussion to continue. Happy editing, Malinaccier ( talk) 22:09, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you have in mind for races and other contests but awarding medallions to some really dedicated users might be a good idea. And once you show how much their work is appreciated, they will continue to put effort and work hard as well as other users who see how much the work is appreciated.-- penubag ( talk) 07:23, 17 April 2009 (UTC) Philosophical schools include: Pythogorianism, Ecocentrism, Deep Ecology, Technocentrism, Anthropocentrism, Linguistic Philosophy, Physicalism ... and others? Granitethighs ( talk) 12:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Sorry I couldn't do the other tasks - I've been away for the past couple of weeks or so. I'm doing this task with AWB at the moment, I'll leave you a message once it has been completed. Thanks, The Helpful One 13:33, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Please don't ever put up entries like you did at the Template talk page. The page was clearly not an expansion, was linked to the talk page, and was put in two different areas. Such things are a violation of WP:POINT. Ottava Rima ( talk) 19:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
LOL .. my bad. ;P — Ched : ? 21:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC) Hi TT, I'm still around, but I haven't really found the time to contribute lately besides making small tweaks here and there. I started out at a new school 7~8 months ago and I've been rather consumed by the more rigorous academics here. Feel free to take me off the volunteer list if having inactive members is an convenience (I don't know if the messages are automated) or you just want to keep the list tidy. — xDanielx T/ C\ R 21:13, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Hey adding to this, I am still around however I have been snowed under mountains of university work for a while, spending what wiki time I have over at WP:TIJ. I am planning to come back at some point in the future, however probably move me to inactive for the moment until that happens. I have been following what is happening over here however so feel free to keep posting your messages! Well I graduate the end of this year, maybe see more of me in 2010 good luck! Dex1337 ( talk) 02:59, 20 April 2009 (UTC) I'm still around, too, but haven't been active for a while. I'm having trouble keeping up with everything I need to do and want to do. I'm like the others; I'd love to still be on the list but if you would prefer it to be just for active members, feel free to take me off. Kathy ( talk) 01:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I am probably asking a silly question that is answered somewhere obvious but ... how deeply will the hierarchical structure delve? For example willl there be a hierarchical set of categories for Geography and will each of these categories in turn have a hierarchical structure if it is useful? Granitethighs ( talk) 05:02, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi TT. I've done a little work hunting hidden outlines and I hoped to get a little feedback on what I've done so far. I've ignored the indexes of articles that seem rather common (For example List of sexology topics) because they aren't properly outlines, but if those are also what you're looking for I could include those in my search. Perhaps a list of them should be collected to move to Wikipedia space, since they mostly function as worklists with red-linked articles and would be redundant after OOK is more complete. Cheers, Gimme danger ( talk) 21:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I haven't made up my mind about the move. However, if there is consensus in support of the move from the list of psychology topics to the index of psychology topics, you have to create an automatic redirect for the list because there are internal links from other Wikipedia entries to the list. Iss246 ( talk) 04:51, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm contacting yourself and some other uninvolved editors to see if you would be willng to read through an RfC at the Article Rescue Squad. It will be far from the most glamourous use of your time but it will help us see if we have reached a decision on this issue. I think the discussion has died down and concensus has been reached but another user has posited I'm misreading this. For the moment I've left my comments in the "Motion to close" and collapsed template in place but if others agree there is no consensus I'm fine removing or reworking them. The discussion itself isn't too brutal and the comments have stayed reasonably well organized so it shouldn't take long. Please read the RfC and discussion and offer your take in the "Motion to close" section. Thank you! -- Banjeboi 13:11, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
If you are going to move pages such as List of chess topics (and you probably shouldn't), please clean up the links to redirects that are left over: Special:WhatLinksHere/List_of_chess_topics. Especially important are links such as the
link at WP:CHESS that you broke. 165.189.101.177 ( talk) 14:27, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
I see what you mean by moving it from project space. Those talk links are really distracting. I've hidden them (see List of mathematics articles (A) for an example of another index that uses this approach), but they are still there so that the talk pages show up on recent changes results. The Transhumanist 00:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I have done this task, some pages were skipped - those without any changes. Pages that were skipped (no changes)
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Hi "Transhumanist, The." {smiles} Per the stipulations at WP:CANVASSING, I've pinged your talk page to "appropriately canvass" you wrt the deletion discussion currently taking place at " WP:Articles for deletion/Home and family blog." (Note that I've also pinged the talkpages of all of your fellow participants at last years deletion discussion at " WP:Articles for deletion/List of blogs," to ensure that my notifications are to are small number of wiki-contributors that have been neutrally selected.) I hope you'll consider taking part in our discussion. Thanks. ↜Just me, here, now … 07:25, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
There was a previous decision to move this to project space: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cryptography topics — Matt Crypto 14:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Do you always make so many radical changes without any discussion or consensus? Whether your changes are for the betterment of the project or not, it's quite uncollegial to edit in such a manner. Please don't do that again. -- Brangifer ( talk) 03:35, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there a draft template for basic outlines, like there was for the country pages? Or do I actually have to build Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of tropical cyclones manually? :) – Juliancolton | Talk 00:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Gimme danger ( talk) 03:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC) I have to say, I'm impressed with how quickly the outlines are evolving. My availability has declined somewhat, but I will continue to contribute to the outlines when I can. And yes, I am involved in the tropical cyclones WikiProject. This seems like such a fundamental change to the encyclopedia, and yes there are gaps, but that's where the editors come in :-) . Good job. ~ A H 1( T C U) 23:17, 10 May 2009 (UTC) I have nominated Outline of South Africa, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Outline of South Africa. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Chris DHDR 12:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)Greetings, TT! I suggested that your query might be better posted on the Mathematics Ref Desk but didn't carry out the move myself, thinking that perhaps I simply don't fathom your having posted it on the Humanities RD. So, the move is up to you, while I'll just advise that it ought to be one or the other (or yet another, as I don't know anything about tree structure except this brief look just now), and not crossposted simultaneously, which doesn't give the respondents the benefit of reading each others' remarks. -- Deborahjay ( talk) 22:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC) Hi Transhumanist! Could you please clarify what you mean by "We'll definitely need the rest of the awards in place before we take the project to the next level." What do you mean by "awards in place"? Are you referring to the creation of specific topic awards such as for medicine? -- penubag ( talk) 07:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, started up user:penubag/graphics again. I finished up the math medallion just now, just waiting for the text. -- penubag ( talk) 07:47, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Don't be shy. Here they are... What are the benefits of a tree structure?The article doesn't say. I'm interested, because I need to explain the benefits in the guideline on outlines I'm writing. (Outlines are a type of tree structure). I've also asked the question at various reference desks, and these threads may help to jump start your brain on this question. :)
What benefits have you noticed? How are Wikipedia's outlines useful to you? I look forward to your answers. The Transhumanist 04:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi Transhumanist, please remove me from your talk page message list. Thank you and have a nice day! Zvika ( talk) 05:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC) I had a quick browse through the Outline of Libya page, and it looks good. Will try to have another look in greater detail soon, but so far so good. Jaw101ie ( talk) 07:26, 17 May 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I've been away for a few weeks so I've not managed to do this task yet. However, I'm back now, and I am running this task on AWB as I type this message. I will leave you another message when the task is completed. Thanks, The Helpful One 17:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
What do you think the ultimate goal should be for outlines on Wikipedia? I'm doubtful any of them will ever make FL-status, but should we build an assessment scale for the wikiproject? Just a thought. – Juliancolton | Talk 18:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I haven't been active on the outlines for a while now, but I understand that certain country outlines are significantly better than others? So wouldn't that mean an unfair advantage for certain country WikiProjects? -- Patar knight - chat/ contributions 01:03, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Have retired with only infrequent small contributions made during actual wiki use since. Will definately not be participating in any projects any time soon, sorry!. └ VodkaJazz / talk ┐ 01:08, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Hey there. Julian told me to ask you if you had any more AWB work for him, and to do some of it to help his workload. So, anything? NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 03:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 04:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC) I am sorry, have retired from Wikipedia, for the time being. I may get back into it during the summer but most likely not. I have gotten to addicted to the game Combat Arms, and surfing the web, and Skype, and Twitter, hanging out with my friends, and being with my girlfriend, I don't have time for Wikipedia any more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackadam2 ( talk • contribs) 05:32, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
To promote work on the country outlines, maybe a contest between country WikiProjects could be run, to see which WikiProject could develop the best country outline. What do you think? (I look forward to your reply on my talk page). The Transhumanist 23:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
A WikiProject race - I like the idea - it will hopefully work not only to complete the pages but publicise them. (I noticed the pages have all been WikiProject tagged) Highfields ( talk, contribs, review) 15:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC) Ps. I've nearly finished the currency filling in task you gave me ages ago - it's been slow because I've been very busy and will be again very soon but it should be done in about a week.
(Every little bit helps!) Just to let you know; I have added the Canada Provinces to the Outline of Knowledge. I am currently working on them trying to get them up to being legit. I need help and thought you or someone else could offer me some assistance. Thanks Burningview ( talk) 18:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Hi there, For this task - are you sure that you have given me the right sandbox? That sandbox doesn't really have any links on it - perhaps you have given me the wrong one? Thanks, The Helpful One 17:05, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi again, This task is now The Helpful One 19:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate your commentary about the Outline of Organic Chemistry page. My original concern was due to the occasional punchy nature where often content will get deleted in the churn of creating/modifying content. This page is one of the oldest pages on Wikipedia, and its edit history shows aspects of that history as well. I still think pages of this nature get deleted from the main-line content pages of Wikipedia far too often, particularly when the content shows some age compared to the fortunately ever improving content of the rest of the project. As my comment on the talk page is already two years old, even that shows a bit of history now. Again, thank for the reply that I wasn't even expecting. That is a good pick-me-up for the day. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 15:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC) I'll help you out at -210 discovered elements ∞ what am I? 20:05, 20 May 2009 (UTC) You've got 7K more edits than I do, I don't really see how I can help! I'm also unclear how the outline of knowledge will improve over categories. I'll try looking into it a bit, but I'm not really interested in a big project right now. WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 20:28, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Hi, I have a suggestion for the design centre-maybe you could add a section on formatting your signature-although not technically userpage-would still be very useful?! dottydotdot ( talk) 20:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
I note you have been moving numerous "outline" drafts into main namespace (such as here). Note that these aren't valid article titles, unless they are discussing something known as an "outline", citing eferences establishing the notability of said "outlines". As long as "outline of X" is just a stubby fork of the "X" article, it is in violation of WP:CFORK and needs to be merged or redirected. -- dab (𒁳) 10:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
@ Skaterthealmighty: @ Skaterthealmighty: ![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 01:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Hey I saw your request on my talk page. I wanted to let you know I was not ignoring you, however I'm at Walt Disney World right now, and haven't had a chance to give you a reply. Quite a task you've taken on though that I see. When I get back on again full-time I'll make sure to drop in my $.02. Wildthing61476 ( talk) 18:56, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
OK I'm back from vacation and ready to throw in my $.02 here. This is a rather ambitious project, and from what I see it looks good. I know there has been discussion on WP:AN on this, but I think this is a good centralize point for people to use on various projects. As for the contest, that seems a bit trickier, while it will lead to better article being written, in my opinion at least it takes away a bit as to what Wikipedia is, being a all-volunteer project with the reward being knowledge for everyone. Wildthing61476 ( talk) 19:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Talk:Government of Nepal, which refers questions to you, discusses Outline of Nepal. So why isn't that discussion at Talk:Outline of Nepal, so its editors will see it? Government of Nepal is a new redirect to Politics of Nepal, so I would think anything on its talk page should be about the redirect. Art LaPella ( talk) 20:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Re this message, Outline of Politics of Ukraine#Government and politics of Politics of Ukraine doesn't exist; however Outline of Ukraine#Government and politics of Politics of Ukraine does and I've updated and corrected it. -- Timberframe ( talk) 21:36, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
The Helpful One 22:19, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Good morning! (or afternoon, or evening, or whatever time it is when you read this; I've never been any good working out time differences). You raised a number of points on my talk page, and so I'm here to address them. Now, it seems your product's biggest selling point is interconnectivity (oh God, I sound like I'm on The Apprentice). Every user on this encyclopedia is here to improve Wikipedia ( at least we hope so), and so, theoretically, every user would want to help with a project that coordinates most of the encyclopedia's work. In practice, however, most people just want to get on and do what they're most comfortable with. Because of this, I would recommend requesting help form the relevant WikiProject for each Outline page. If you market (there I go again) the Outline as not only a way to improve readers' knowledge about a particular subject, but also to help recruit editors for that WikiProject, I'm sure they'ld (is that a word?) be willing to help. That said, there will, of course, be a number of editors who would want to help with all aspects, and so placing an ad wouldn't hurt. I suspect that most people who would want to help with this type of project would be WikiGnomes, and so keep on the lookout for behind-the-scenes workers. Finally, a notice or two at the the Village Pump wouldn't go amiss. Stay tuned for more in this brand new series about advice for the accompanying webpage. Next time: Weebiloobil thrillingly details the improvements that could be made to User:The Transhumanist/Outline of knowledge. Presented by: weebiloobil ( talk) 08:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
As the driving force behind the Outline of Knowledge project, this AN thread about people complaining about (and threatening to AFD/MFD) much of the project will be of great interest to you. Could you please comment there please? NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 04:04, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I strongly support the project, and will say so as necessary--I just commented at the VP. But I do not think posting additional notices at this point is a good idea. We should be editing current outlines before we get involved with more. DGG ( talk) 00:01, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, This task is now Thanks, The Helpful One 14:53, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Hi, I've been thinking about the matter of spreading the OoK to editors all over Wikipedia; it is quite a detailed navigation system and can definitely help users to look for what they want to find. I'm aware that this undertaking is no minor one; spreading awareness about this project across Wikipedia is not easy. Thus, I advise you to perhaps ask for help from every avilable source. The WikiAd a good place to start, if you haven't already tried it. Then there comes the arduous task of asking others to inform their acquaintances around Wikipedia. It's slow, but it works nevertheless. Finally, I suggest that you try to ask the Admins for help; they might have something up their sleeves. If all else fails, perhaps you can try the advertisement space they usually reserve for the big projects, like the pop up box they design for donations (the ones at the top of your page, during the donation periods). You can also create cards and userboxes (how do you like to search Wiki easily and hassle free??--not a good slogan, but you get the idea of what to put on the cards/userboxes) and put it on your talk page, send it to your acquaintances and ask them to send it to theirs; it's so much easier than to send a message over and over again. Plus, cards are better at grabbing people's attention, especially if it's particularly neat.
PS: Sorry for the late reply; I'm pretty busy of late and I am using an old computer now, so I try not to log in as much as possible, for fear of slowing it down. And I don't come online that often anymore either, so pardon me if my replies are a little late. I'll try to log in once a week to check on my mails, so do send me a message if you need help. I'm too lazy to archive my talk page too, so it's a little too cluttered now...sob. Anyways, peace and out. =) Hi
Bring on the AWB tasks when ready. – Juliancolton | Talk 13:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
hey Transhumanist, sorry for being so inactive all of a sudden. I'm extremely busy IRL and will continue to be until after this week. I'll reply when I get the chance. Thanks. -- penubag ( talk) 03:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC) sure... AWB work is interesting to say the least. lets me practice Regexes :). let me know ChiragPatnaik ( talk) 11:45, 28 May 2009 (UTC) Hey, I just wanted to check up on any new AWB tasks for me, as you said you had a few more for me to do. Are you still working on collating them, or did I just miss one on my talk page? Thanks, NW ( Talk) ( How am I doing?) 20:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC) These articles have the nesting of Environment -> Ecology -> Renewable energy. Renewable energy is not a subset of ecology. Also, having articles with the title "Ecology of Country" is incorrect. Ecology does not end at a political boundary. Environmental issues and environment do however have political boundaries since environmental policy and environmental law can end at such a boundary. Cheers. -- Alan Liefting ( talk) - 22:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Howdy. 2 separate issues. Do you have a person you'd suggest (or could ask), to do some AWB talkpage tagging with the {{ WikiProject Glossaries}} banner, of the articles in Category:Glossaries and Portal:Contents/List of glossaries. (and perhaps make a list of any that don't appear in both? I'm not sure how subcategories should be worked in or accounted though...) Also, some of these are coming up for deletion again (eg List of Internet-related terminology), and it'd be nice to get some of these issues ironed out, or new thoughts arrived at that don't waste(as in kill) the information. (So many discussions, so little consensus, so hard to remember where it all is, and what all the pertinent points are...:( Any ideas? -- Quiddity ( talk) 02:03, 29 May 2009 (UTC) Hmmm, at a glance, Category:Lists of terms seems to be a mix of indexes, and topic lists, and glossaries. I'll stare at this later, if you don't first. Wine and a sunny porch are calling... -- Quiddity ( talk) 02:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, Please comment at that page about an AWB posting task that I did for you. Thanks, The Helpful One 09:49, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm currently taking a wikibreak, I will do your instructions when I get back.-- SKATER Speak. 14:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC) ![]() Message added 23:57, 31 May 2009 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
→ Dylan 620 (Toolbox Alpha, Beta) 00:26, 1 June 2009 (UTC) Looking around your User-page, I'm not sure I'm the right person to adopt you - you really need specialised advice about running projects and attracting editor's attention, and I'm not really familiar with either of these. However, I am happy to give you some advice about attracting attention. Firstly, I would suggest developing a number of Project templates which can be placed on relevant articles, so that editors working on those articles can help with the project. Since your project will be involved in a number of mainstream topics, this should raise awareness significantly. I would also recommend developing a userbox for all project members, so that they can advertise their involvement in the project and so that other users can see it on their User page. If you don't want to make the userbox yourself, you could leave a note at WP:Userboxes/Ideas, or request it from a user whose userboxes you like (a number of editors, including myself, will make userboxes if requested). Similarly, you might want to develop, or ask another user to develop, an advert to gain attention. Many people display randomised ads on their User pages, but the template can be set to display one ad in particular if you want to use just your ad. Finally, you might wish to create an 'invitation' template, or even just a short message, which can be left on pages of users that you think might be interested in the project. Once all these are done, you can add them to the project page, so that new members can easily find them and help to raise awareness. Even if these measures don't increase membership, they will help spread the word about your project. I hope these ideas are useful to you, and that you find some-one more experienced to help you out. If you need any more advice, please leave another message at my Talk page and I'll do my best to help. strdst_grl (call me Stardust) 08:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Nice title ;) And by golly are your posts tl;dr much... Anyway, for your questions, sorry if this isn't exactly the length or quality of response you're looking for, but I'm rather pressed for time at the minute with exam revision and such. My main idea would be to include some kind of reward at next year's WikiCup (inclusion this year would be practically unworkable with both the stage of the contest as well as the fact that the rules have already been altered excessively and I'm sure you'll appreciate that a whole new item to score from would be a rather avoidable inclusion. As for people in particular to help out with your scheme, I'm pretty dry on idea there I'm afraid. I'd look for bot operators who are used to small repetitive edits or even some people from MILHIST who have regular (well, relatively) contests involving mass tagging and reviewing which sounds a similar process to the one you plan to undertake. I wish you the very best of luck in this endeavour - you might need it. weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 10:19, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
This has now been The Helpful One 16:49, 1 June 2009 (UTC) Hi, I saw your post on my talk page about WP:WPOOK. I am very interested in this project, as I think the outlines will increase traffic. I do have a few ideas on how to acheive the goals which you've requested. I like how the exsisting outlines are structured, but think we could expand with a few words about each sub-topic, to give readers info about what they're looking at. The best way of advertising the OOK is of course, the main page, which I thought could be organized like portals are. Each general topic could link to the actual outline of the subject. I will help out in any way I can. I look forward to expanding the current outlines and, in time, leaving portals forever. Thank you! T-95 ( talk) 17:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello there thanks for your ask and i will be hapopoy to help you any way i can, though I am not mr perfect, i tend to try to think who is reading this article and aim it that way, and sod the recommendations. most of the time i get my way because it is not of ignorance but sense. So delioberately i have not read your project articles yet *(will do in a bit) but yeah quite happy to help, as i say i am ver picky for spelling and grammar and that kind of nonsense but more than anything i want articles to make sense and that crap can come second. anyone tells y9ou otherwise refer them to me. SimonTrew ( talk) 20:15, 1 June 2009 (UTC* Excuse me i should add i just got a new netbook and am having some trouble getting used to its little keyboard so please excuise my typing nerrors quite embarrassing! 20:18, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Please be aware that the adoption WikiProject is not ment to be a vehicle for canvassing (I suggest you read that guidelines thouroughly before you attempt any such thing like contacting all regular editors). I don't support your attitude of competing with Portals and "leaving them in the dust", we shouldn't be competing with our own content although there's nothing wrong with complementary work. I think you should slow down and convince people why this all is important instead of expecting that thousands of editors will start working on your project. If you seek editors to write outlines on certain topics, you can contact the relevant wikiproject. But again, don't start canvassing all wikiprojects, it's considered spam as you rightly point out. -- Steven Fruitsmaak ( Reply) 21:00, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello there, I will try to help, even though I think you have more experience on WP than I. What May help on your WP page is to have a page which many other WP call "Outreach" SK Outreach WP Outreach, Baseball Outreach Sometimes as in the case of Baseball outreach, the page is devoted solely to the newsletter. However many of the other wikiprojects and or outreach pages also have a welcome template of some sort. I guess further to this a pattern that is developing on some WP projects is to discover who the new editors are which have an interest in their particular WP. This robot helps to identify who likes to write about Japan for example for the WP Japan project. However that would not help the WP:WPOOK as much as for instance asking the robot to keep looking for those folks who have written "Outline of foo" page already, and also including those who have written "List of Foo" pages. Then editors who already show an interest in the WP "Outline of" content could be extended a welcome. (The robot also helps with category, WP talk page banner and list classifications as well). The other pattern would be to see which editors like to edit "Outline of foo" pages, by placing "Outline of Foo" pages on outreach editors watchlist and providing a welcome to them. An "outline of Foo" should/could also be used to enhance a "Foo:portal". Many portals are using tabbed pages now, and I personally think again, that a portal would blososom if the "topic of foo" page were added to the portal as one of the portals tabbed pages. (However this page wouldn't rotate its content) Portals introduce rotating featured subject foo content, rotating featured images, rotating featured biographies, (The best of the best) and categories to the reader, and an outline tab would also introduce the reader to more about the subject foo as well... However the bad part about outlines is that if the reader goes to an outline of foo page and sees a huge tree of outlines/topices, etc, but nowhere on the outline page is the sub-topic the teacher assigned for study, then the person may rightly or wrongly assume it is not on WP and leave without doing an independent search to see if such an area was created after the topic outline was made. Perhaps a usefull template would be an incomplete outline template such as an incomplete list template which would encourage other viewers to see what is incomplete and encourage additions. (and requests) I see there is this one for a subject talk page Template:Outline of knowledge coverage, (Which could be put on soooo many subject pages) but there should be one for the main outline page or section - "incomplete outline tag" as well (unless there is one already). I see you hae already contemplated contests. Some past ideas that work sometimes are collaborations, and article (outline) improvement drives. Sometimes they work better with a newsletter. Personally I think the outline pages would help to develop WP in the same way that a list complements a category, so I hope you do well in your WP:WPOOK endeavours. A category shows what is done to date, and a list shows what is still to do, as well as what is done for an example. An outline complements navboxes, infoboxes, but in more detail as empty infobox fields are not used in an article, but they perhaps are red links (to do) in an outline. Oh my goodness this became a lo-o-o-ong reply, but I hope a nugget of it is of some help to you in some way. Maybe these things you are doing already, but I missed them, in that case I am sorry, Tried to scan through your progress thus far, and you have done a lot! (Really good job BTW) Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 01:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Sure, that would work IMO. – Juliancolton | Talk 03:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok, so my idea is this: we merge This page into the portal section. This way we don't interfere with the portals to start with, and our idea is out there. I have not requested this be on the main page yet, as to see your opinion. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. T-95 ( talk) 12:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I notice your page is getting a little long, maybe you should Archive it. I know Miszabot does it automaticly.-- SKATER Speak. 13:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought I was doing Wikipedia a service helping out with the Outlines project, and did not realize there are users on here that object to the idea of it so harshly. I appreciate the kind words and will work with you on this project. I have recruited users who have more knowledge than me on Canada's provinces to help out. I will admit that I am ignorant with the subject, but the idea went off in my head at the time to create the O of BC page because I thought it would be a good thing to have comprehensive, and great outlines for the Canadian provinces; like the U.S. states have. Thanks for the support. Burningview ( talk) 00:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Re: WP:WPOOKAlright, allow me to give you my two cents on this project. Honestly, it looks like your diving head-first one of the largest tasks I've ever seen a user attempt to do! And there's nothing wrong with that: boldness is an excellent quality to see in an editor such as yourself. You've started a WikiProject that has a pretty decent future, something that seems like it will provide a foundation for the rest of Wikipedia to branch off of. Now, you asked about a way to contact editors to help the project grow in size. Attracting editors it a difficult task, and almost all WikiProjects have some trouble doing it. Here's a few suggestions, really meant as a form of brainstorming:
I hope that this helps! Regards, The Earwig ( Talk | Editor review) 02:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
I have no idea. Usually (with me) I take on the easy, but time-consuming tasks on Wikipedia like categorization; i.e. tagging articles under the scope of there respective WikiProjects related to them. Also putting template messeges at the top of articles.(Of course I'm sure you know about all of this; so no need of explaining, LOL). It is only when creative inspiration strikes me that excites me to do something greater on Wikipedia. But I will be offering my services to WOOK for the meantime. All this attention I have recieved in the past few days over an article I created; really has motivated me to get on Wikipedia more often, its alot more exciting. Burningview ( talk) 02:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi there,
Thanks, The Helpful One 16:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Hi there, Wow! I didn't even notice that I had signed the page! Ah, it might have been because when I added the </nowiki> tag to the end of where it was supposed to be, it used my signature instead of the one that was supposed to be yours. :S I would love to do that task, but right now I need to get some sleep, perhaps tomorrow! ;) Thanks, The Helpful One 22:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Hi there, It seems that changing the template did the trick for this? Do you have any other plans for any other category renames, because I put through a bot task approval request to do the task - I've been approved for 30 trial edits, but now there's nothing to edit! The Helpful One 18:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to move categories, actually... – Juliancolton | Talk 20:49, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
I am sorry, but as unexpected obstacles arose, i will be unable to answer your questions in a timely manner. This does not mean you need a new mentor, i will still help every 2-3 days. In about 6 business days I should fully be back. at -210 discovered elements ∞ what am I? 22:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Here? I'm pretty sure I removed about 99% of the bad links by fixing a few templates. – Juliancolton | Talk 00:45, 5 June 2009 (UTC) I answered the queries at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Outline_of_knowledge#Community_consensus, but not the one at Wikipedia talk:Outlines which I'm inclined to agree with. This top-of-article-notice/hatlink is a bit too much, considering the current quality of most of the outlines, and the hidden comment explanation is unnecessary (and immodestly phrased). I'd recommend we stick with links in =See also= sections, for now. Slow and steady wins the race; hasty promotion will attract more vitriol than support. Also, I've added a line with a few examples of the best work, to the lede at Wikipedia:Outlines. Feel free to change the examples/wording/placement, but let's keep a list of 3 good examples near the top of that page. -- Quiddity ( talk) 19:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC) The outlines aren't complete, but they are complete enough to be useful to readers. And what good is a table of contents hidden in the back? Tables of contents are most useful in the front. The hatnote issue is very similar to adding the "Contents" link to the sidebar. And you opposed that too, on the grounds that the system wasn't ready to be displayed. Shenme captured the essence of the situation very well:
The OOK needs editors for each of its pages, and for the essential pages it's missing. Relying on a small team to finish all of this will take decades. (Do the math). I've been on this project for almost 4 years already! So, if hatnotes will benefit readers while attracting editors to these pages, then that looks like a pretty damn good solution to me. The Transhumanist 23:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi, please read this and WP:IECOLL. Please realise that Ireland related article titles are not to be touched as per the Arbcom ruling. I'd recommend you self revert you edits and wait before renaming dozens of article. MITH 00:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
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at User:The Transhumanist/Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics – Juliancolton | Talk 01:26, 7 June 2009 (UTC) My pleasure to help, and I will be glad to continue working on them. If you ever need backup in one of these anti-outline debates be sure to ask me, they have my fullest support. Highfields ( talk, contribs, review) 11:08, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I will, and again thanks for the support. Your words are encouraging. Let us continue our efforts to make your vision for outlines on Wikipedia a reality. You keep up the great work yourself! That you for your lengthy message on my talk page. Unfortunately I have been on an extended Wikibreak and did not receive your message until recently. I hope you found someone else to assist you, but if you are still looking for help, please let me know. Tiggerjay ( talk) 23:29, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Greetings Transhumanist, I have been organizing categories under "theories" for a while now recently. I have made some proposals to move stuff around. I thought you might be interested in the discussion at WT:PHILO. You might also want to take a look at User:Gregbard/Concepts and theories (although I don't think we necessarily need another task force about it.) This is what I was talking about having a consistent format with all the isms, etcetera. Pontiff Greg Bard ( talk) 04:09, 9 June 2009 (UTC) OK, if it is hard to put outlines into the wikicup, then reverse take the wonderfulness of the wikicup and plop it into the outlines WP as its own Outlines WP contest game type thingie. I didn't even know about the wikicup, and have been involved in two separate contest type games to make editing WP fun. So invent your own outline marathon, outline extravaganza, outline fanfare, there have been some wonderful images made in connection with the outline wikiproject, perhaps there could be 2 or 3 awards given out for different objectives of the outlines contest game and set into a table or template style format like awarding a barnstar or wikilove in a template. Then it can have points awarded differently than the wikicup, and pertinent for outlines. Let folks know, Give it a future starting /ending date etc. etc. depending on what is desired for an outcome SriMesh | talk 04:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I would list everything I did but it's pretty apparent (unlike some of my other projects). Let me know what you think! -- penubag ( talk) 07:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Would it be possible to write a string of regex to replace the state-by-state find and replace selections? – Juliancolton | Talk 18:35, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
"For a topical guide to this subject, see Outline of games. <!--PLEASE LEAVE THIS LINE IN PLACE as it leads to the page that serves as the table of contents for this subject's coverage across Wikipedia. Thank you.-->" - has this emerged from a games-related Wikiproject somewhere, or is it your own idea? I thought the standard way of linking this sort of article was a navigation template at the side or the bottom of the article. Is there a reason why a navigation template isn't appropriate here? -- McGeddon ( talk) 23:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) 02:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC) ![]() You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. NW ( Talk) 04:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Hey transhumanist thanks for your note on my talk page. i have left a cpouple of thoughts on the article talk page i appreciate it is early days so havent cleaned up the page at all but more than happy to sub it at the appropriate time. i was thinking that the banner should be white on purple cadburys style (that is quite global in the us they licence to hersheys) but that may be even as colours a copyright or trademark infringement i am not sure. SimonTrew ( talk) 05:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
...but I'm still trying to figure out this regex feature... – Juliancolton | Talk 14:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC) Hi there, I forgot all about this task! I've added a request for my bot to be able to do this task, as well as category renaming here. I'll let you know when I get onto the task. Thanks, The Helpful One 16:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC) I need your opinion on a situation I've been handling for a little over a month. I came across a flame war while I was on another vandal hunting spree, after reading through it I left both
User:Kingoomieiii and the IP address
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User:Spooky873. I soon got into an
Hi, Sorry for the late reply as I'm currently on a Wikibreak. From what I gather, WP:WPOOK shares interests with a lot of other WikiProjects. Like for example, outline of mathematics also falls under the scope of the Mathematics WikiProject, and possibally, many others as well. So the best idea would be to approach each and every relevant WikiProject, and try to get one or more active members from that project under WP:WPOOK who would be responsible for the outlines that also fall under their project. Partnering with other projects would help you gain dedicated members as well as wide spread reach. But you would have to be involved in a lot of dicussions, general concesus building and even disputes, as there may also be some conflicts. I'd still recommend you to go down this road though, as it would be the best way to accomplish your goals. UzEE 14:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC) Hmm...so it seems that there has been some riot going on with the outline. I did not expect anyone to ever oppose this nice privilege which would definitely help users a lot; if they can't understand what an outline is supposed to do, perhaps an essay regarding the topic would be good enough to clear some of their doubts, if not all. As it is, there're not too many people going against the outline (from what I understand about the report you sent me), so I think you'll have to act quickly. I'm sure you're doing everything you can do, but have you created cards? Try making one about the outline and them to everyone you can think of. Yes, even those who do not agree with the outline. Perhaps it might make them change their mind, if only a little. As for including Jimbo Wales in the awards process, I'm sure, if someone asks him, and if he's not too busy, he'll respond kindly enough. Of course, you'll have to get the contest going on first before asking him. I hope this helps. Cheers, Zachary crimsonwolf 03:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Transhumanist. I noticed you opposed my first RfA, which occurred about a year and a half ago. If you have the time, do you think you could give me an editor review and tell me what issues I still have that may hinder my chances at a successful RfA in the near future? Thanks. Tim meh !( review me) 15:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC) What exactly do you mean by "whats missing"? You mean the Canadian Provinces? Or something else? Not sure what opinion you want me to give. Burningview ( talk) 20:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Hi, I see you are undertaking some sort of tasks with the lists. for your interest the List of words having different meanings in British and American English is partially ridiculous. I posted on the talk page if you are interested in giving opinions. ~ R. T. G 21:13, 12 June 2009 (UTC) |