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Your edits at talk:Fake News Awards have a lot of issues with formatting, threading, and your basic understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I strongly recommend that you take a break from the article until you come up to speed. Most of us start by making small edits to less controversial articles and participate in talk page discussions to help improve content before moving on to highly-controversial articles. If you are here to help us build an encyclopedia, then you will find many opportunities to improve content on any of our 6,844,249 articles. I'm happy to answer questions about how Wikipedia works, but I recommend you start by reading some of the links in the Welcome message above.- Mr X 🖋 20:44, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
@DarthBotto:
So far, I've suggested a minor edit of one single sentence, along with 3 published conservative news references to support it, to make the Fake News Awards article balanced, neutral, and politically unbiased. This can't reasonably be considered then "disruptive anarchy". Therefore, the suggestion that I leave the discussion, to work on a different Wikipedia article to gain experience, because my requests are not minor edits seems disingenuous.
Your suggestions appear to be merely attempts at censorship and diversion, to solely maintain the current Liberal bias to the Fake News Awards article intact. Which of the published references I've provided to back up my suggestions to changes, which I bet you've never actually opened or read, did you disagree with? Further, you are mistaken, because offering a balanced, neutral presentation, of the Fake News Awards article, which explains both sides of the political spectrum, and how it reacted to this news event, allowing references to published conservative media, as I was requested, is not in fact anarchy.
According to Wikipedia's definition of "reliable sources":
"Contentious material about living persons ... that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."
What the Fake News Awards page has done however, is solely permit "contentious questionable sources about living persons (the President)", and references to Liberal media, which attacked and ridiculed President Trump, from the Liberal media itself, on the grounds of their demands of Freedom of the Press, while at the same time blocked all references from Conservative media, denying it the same freedoms, by falsely claiming they're not "reliable (published) sources", which they in fact are. Next it was claimed that the conservative sources had no following, when in fact they have a larger current popular following than Liberal media, according to references I provided. This is likely due to personal political bias, on the part of the authors, to solely promote the Liberal view to the article, which is not following the Wikipedia guidelines of neutrality. Instead it's an attempt at censorship and error by omission.
It appears you're defining "disruption" as any contradiction to the Liberal opinions, expressed on the Fake News Awards Talk page, with editors who are also using it as their own personal forum, in an attempt to deny those same suggestions for changes, coming from a conservative side, as not being "neutral", in order to continue censorship.
In the coming days, I will going through my various comments on the Talk page, consolidating and removing redundancies and information that doesn't relate to the article itself, along with providing published sources to my various claims and suggestions, from conservative media. I will also be making more suggestions for changes to the article, which I believe will provide a more balanced view of the Fake News Awards news event, to all forms of readers who may view it on Wikipedia, to make it truly neutral unbiased presentation. I will also study the guidelines for proper formatting as suggested.
Suresa108 ( talk) 18:39, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
I notice that you've already deleted everything I wrote for me. Censorship wins again. Good thing I have copies.
Suresa108 ( talk) 01:00, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
I've visited WP:NOTHERE as suggested, and read the description, and it doesn't say one set of editors, who are Liberal leaning, may write inflammatory comments, and conservative leaning commentators must be censored and blocked. This seems like a personal political bias being applied. My confusion is why Volunteer Marek, and others, may write such inflammatory things "just because Trump and some crazies" and "all that you've written is garbage", and they're approved as "neutral" comments, but conservative suggestions are blocked and deleted, using the label WP:NOTHERE? It seems there's double standard being applied where one set of editors may write inflammatory and politically motived statements, and others requesting balance and neutrality are blocked? It seems as if their is a Liberal bias that's tolerated, as the standard, and all others are removed and censored? How can this possibly be considered neutral or valid? I've been warned above, but I don't understand why the warning is being interpreted in this way? Suresa108 ( talk) 13:29, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
References:
1. https://www.rt.com/news/386256-new-york-festivals-rt-awarded/
Suresa108 ( talk) 15:42, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
References:
Zerohedge claims President Obama doesn't build bridges, he also builds a border wall, to block immigration into southern Mexico, and questions the double standard?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-14/mexico-builds-wall-and-guess-who-paid-it
Snopes fact checks Zerohedge article, claiming it is "False". What's true however, is that President Obama did initially send $15 million and later an additional planned $75 million in US taxpayer funds to Mexico, along with equipment and materials, to aid the Mexican government, in blocking immigration into Mexico, across its southern border with Guatemala, as Zerohedge claimed, and the only part of the article that's actually false is the word "wall", which Snopes changes to "barrier", and that President Obama didn't directly send the money, and instead his State Department did.
https://www.snopes.com/mexico-75-million-border-wall/
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Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you enjoy the encyclopedia and want to stay. As a first step, you may wish to read the Introduction.
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Your edits at talk:Fake News Awards have a lot of issues with formatting, threading, and your basic understanding of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I strongly recommend that you take a break from the article until you come up to speed. Most of us start by making small edits to less controversial articles and participate in talk page discussions to help improve content before moving on to highly-controversial articles. If you are here to help us build an encyclopedia, then you will find many opportunities to improve content on any of our 6,844,249 articles. I'm happy to answer questions about how Wikipedia works, but I recommend you start by reading some of the links in the Welcome message above.- Mr X 🖋 20:44, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
@DarthBotto:
So far, I've suggested a minor edit of one single sentence, along with 3 published conservative news references to support it, to make the Fake News Awards article balanced, neutral, and politically unbiased. This can't reasonably be considered then "disruptive anarchy". Therefore, the suggestion that I leave the discussion, to work on a different Wikipedia article to gain experience, because my requests are not minor edits seems disingenuous.
Your suggestions appear to be merely attempts at censorship and diversion, to solely maintain the current Liberal bias to the Fake News Awards article intact. Which of the published references I've provided to back up my suggestions to changes, which I bet you've never actually opened or read, did you disagree with? Further, you are mistaken, because offering a balanced, neutral presentation, of the Fake News Awards article, which explains both sides of the political spectrum, and how it reacted to this news event, allowing references to published conservative media, as I was requested, is not in fact anarchy.
According to Wikipedia's definition of "reliable sources":
"Contentious material about living persons ... that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."
What the Fake News Awards page has done however, is solely permit "contentious questionable sources about living persons (the President)", and references to Liberal media, which attacked and ridiculed President Trump, from the Liberal media itself, on the grounds of their demands of Freedom of the Press, while at the same time blocked all references from Conservative media, denying it the same freedoms, by falsely claiming they're not "reliable (published) sources", which they in fact are. Next it was claimed that the conservative sources had no following, when in fact they have a larger current popular following than Liberal media, according to references I provided. This is likely due to personal political bias, on the part of the authors, to solely promote the Liberal view to the article, which is not following the Wikipedia guidelines of neutrality. Instead it's an attempt at censorship and error by omission.
It appears you're defining "disruption" as any contradiction to the Liberal opinions, expressed on the Fake News Awards Talk page, with editors who are also using it as their own personal forum, in an attempt to deny those same suggestions for changes, coming from a conservative side, as not being "neutral", in order to continue censorship.
In the coming days, I will going through my various comments on the Talk page, consolidating and removing redundancies and information that doesn't relate to the article itself, along with providing published sources to my various claims and suggestions, from conservative media. I will also be making more suggestions for changes to the article, which I believe will provide a more balanced view of the Fake News Awards news event, to all forms of readers who may view it on Wikipedia, to make it truly neutral unbiased presentation. I will also study the guidelines for proper formatting as suggested.
Suresa108 ( talk) 18:39, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
I notice that you've already deleted everything I wrote for me. Censorship wins again. Good thing I have copies.
Suresa108 ( talk) 01:00, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
I've visited WP:NOTHERE as suggested, and read the description, and it doesn't say one set of editors, who are Liberal leaning, may write inflammatory comments, and conservative leaning commentators must be censored and blocked. This seems like a personal political bias being applied. My confusion is why Volunteer Marek, and others, may write such inflammatory things "just because Trump and some crazies" and "all that you've written is garbage", and they're approved as "neutral" comments, but conservative suggestions are blocked and deleted, using the label WP:NOTHERE? It seems there's double standard being applied where one set of editors may write inflammatory and politically motived statements, and others requesting balance and neutrality are blocked? It seems as if their is a Liberal bias that's tolerated, as the standard, and all others are removed and censored? How can this possibly be considered neutral or valid? I've been warned above, but I don't understand why the warning is being interpreted in this way? Suresa108 ( talk) 13:29, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
References:
1. https://www.rt.com/news/386256-new-york-festivals-rt-awarded/
Suresa108 ( talk) 15:42, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
References:
Zerohedge claims President Obama doesn't build bridges, he also builds a border wall, to block immigration into southern Mexico, and questions the double standard?
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-14/mexico-builds-wall-and-guess-who-paid-it
Snopes fact checks Zerohedge article, claiming it is "False". What's true however, is that President Obama did initially send $15 million and later an additional planned $75 million in US taxpayer funds to Mexico, along with equipment and materials, to aid the Mexican government, in blocking immigration into Mexico, across its southern border with Guatemala, as Zerohedge claimed, and the only part of the article that's actually false is the word "wall", which Snopes changes to "barrier", and that President Obama didn't directly send the money, and instead his State Department did.
https://www.snopes.com/mexico-75-million-border-wall/
Hello! Suresa108,
you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the
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