You claim that the material I edited in the Littlejohn article is well-sourced and relevant; I beg to differ – all of the sources come from Johann Hari, his personal arch-enemy, and therefore could never be used in a biographical article. You speak about courtesy to Wikipedia users, but how about courtesy towards the subject of the article? As someone who comes from academic world, I can assure you this simply wouldn't pass the test.
Moreover, the Hari diatribes were further twisted. Consider the following example: "Littlejohn lives in Florida in the United States for much of the year". This statement is given the following citation: ^Johann Hari "Why does the right hate Britain so much?", The Independent, 6 August 2007. Retrieved on 21 August 2007." If one bothers to click on the link to the actual article, Hari writes: "[Littlejohn] writes many of his anti-British screeds from a gated mansion in Florida, where he spends months on end". Now, there are several problems with this quote alone, implying that Littlejohn is not really British, but it doesn't claim that he spends all his time in America. This list goes on and on.
I therefore challenge you to revise Hari vs Littlejohn polemic in a way that does not sound like a propaganda piece written by a Hari groupie, and then go onto my page criticising me of discourtesy. Eliyyahu 15:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm waiting for your answer in the talk page. Thanks. Evenfiel 02:52, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Dear Stephen, I am a university instructor. I sometimes like to contribute to wikipedia. I have prepared discussion questions for the following and published them on my blog. Many students and teachers refer to my page: Sandra Cisneros's Barbie-Q Peter Weir's The Truman Show Joyce Carol Oates's Where are you going, where have you been... etc.
However, wikipedia editors keep removing my contributions. "Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Sandra_Cisneros. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion." I think you are extremely rude. I don't think that the contributions I have been trying to make cannot be considered spamming. And I don't think I am using my blog and wikipedia as vehicles for advertising and promotion. Your explanation is unacceptable; your treatment is unfair. I spend so much time formulating questions. And all this is for non-profit purposes. Therefore, I believe that wikipedia editors should reconsider their decisions. This is unfair and I must add that I find your approach racist, too. Regards Ali Nihat Eken, Ph.D. in Educational Sciences Istanbul, Turkey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alim2007 ( talk • contribs) 18:12, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
I recently ran into a message you left on the above user's page about a vandalism entry that came from my IP. Just in case this user continues to vandalize Wikipedia, I thought I would write a message indicating that it is not me, in case someone comes to that conclusion. Cheers. -- Wolfrider 00:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Why do you keep removing my removal of the term American? He is clearly talking about people from the nation of United States, not about Americans. I also think it is very dishonest to just label my contributions as vandalism when there is a clear error in the paragraph. - Lapinmies 15:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey Stephen Burnett, I don't mind reveting vandalism on this userpage or elsewhere. If you would like me to semi-protect your userpage, let me know. Thanks, - Gilliam 09:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Please read WP:Don't bite the newbies. I was going to welcome 69.228.146.169 and use the test edits warn from Twinkle (he edited Piracy and reverted his own edit) but then saw you already did. I know it probably wasn't your intention but it sounded a little mean. You might like to use the the Test Edits Warn from Twinkle:
Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with (Optional: the page <insert page name> on) Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been
reverted or removed. Please take a look at the
welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the
sandbox. Optional Message here ~~~~
If you don't have it already I really suggest getting Twinkle, it's a program you paste into your script section of Wikipedia and adds some rollback buttons, warns and a few other things (it's for vandal-fighting). If you want to reply please do so on my talk page because I'm not good at remembering to look at other peoples. I know you like putting conversations on one page so what you could do is post it on both. Thanks! Deflagro Contribs/ Talk 19:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Stephen,
If I felt the links added no value to your visitors, I wouldn't even have made the effort. But I disagree with your viewpoint. There are several external links I can direct you on your sites that simply add no value. Yet they still appear as links. We have developed a suite of sites devoted to a particular artist, writer, thinker, or philosopher, and presenting the subject's life and works in a way interesting to readers of all ages.
If you feel these sites don't achieve this, then please give me your feedback, so we can improve our offerings.
Sincerely,
Charles Carlini —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.107.138 ( talk) 20:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stephen,
I just reverted some more minor vandalism by the user(s) at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:66.203.18.32 and noted that they have had multiple previous warnings. I am not sure how to go about blocking users, etc., so since you had put a warning on the page I thought you could help.
All best,
Conor —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Conmalone (
talk •
contribs)
20:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I got a new message saying I edited Arthur Conan Doyle's page with vandalism from my IP address and I have never even been to that page until I got the message. Is there a way to remove that from my Wiki record? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.167.132.123 ( talk) 01:58, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Dude, do you know what Internet Archive is? It is the worlds biggest open source digitization project, it is bigger than Project Gutenberg, in fact PJ often gets its scan from them (well, really the Open Content Alliance). For every article that has a PJ link there should be a corresponding IA link, IA has more texts for each author plus they are original scans with pictures, edition information and letter press. Please, this is not controversial or spam. Also, I want my home page blank, thank you. -- 71.191.36.194 18:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Page for James Fergason also vandalized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeinwap ( talk • contribs) 08:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I open Wikipedia and received a message saying I created an unconstructive criticism of Genghis Khan - I don't think so. When i looked for somewhere to protest, your name came up under the '+' drop down tag thing. I am not registered with Wikipedia, and I simply emjoy looking at stuff.
Please respond to garyroberts834@hotmail.com for any fourther clarification. Thanks.
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Genghis Khan, are considered vandalism and immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. --Hdt83 Chat 07:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I do not believe I deleted any content from the Benito Mussolini page. I don't even recall visiting that page. Please provide the text that I removed. I rarely edit any wikipedia pages, and usually that it only for grammatical errors, or to add content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.185.242.79 ( talk) 16:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Your feedback on the Johann Hari discussion page, where we are discussing horrendous vandalism by a user who calls him "a self-publicising careerist, and an especially unpleasant one at that," would be really welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.30.47 ( talk) 12:04, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Burnett:
Perhaps you do not understand how the internet functions. You see, I would estimate somewhere around 75% or so of people using the internet from their homes do not have a dedicated IP address. Every time I connect to the internet, I end up with a different IP address every time I connect. Thus, when you send nasty notes to people who vandalize articles but are identified only by IP address, as you did with recent vandalism to George Orwell, the message ends up being received by an entirely different, and innocent person. Receiving such messages just ruins my day. No doubt, I will have a completely different IP address the next time I log in so there is no reason to reply to this message. Have a nice day.
Perhaps you should read the wikipedia article on IP addresses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.163.126.215 ( talk) 21:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
As it happens, I do have a wikipedia user ID. But if happen to be connecting from an IP address used previously by someone who vandalized an article it still shows up as logging in does nothing to change my IP address. How much sense does it make to block an IP address when you know there is a better, in fact much better, than 50% chance that the people being blocked from using Wikipedia or the messages sent to "vandals" will in fact only end up blocking or being received by people completely unrelated to the vandalism. Again, perhaps you should learn the difference between a static and non static IP. The fact that there are numerous postings to your talk page from people utterly confused by messages received regarding "vandalism" committed by others only shows how this makes Wikipedia a less user-friendly reference tool.
Could you imagine how awkward it would be if you went to the reference department of your public library and were sternly scolded by the reference librarian because someone who previously sat in the same chair you are now sitting in vandalized a book and since they have no way of identifying who that person was, they just decided to take it out on you instead? Or perhaps they decided to deny entry in to the library to everybody who used a particular section of the parking lot?
It seems absurd when you apply the same logic used by wikipedia to a non electronic reference source, and it is just as absurd here.
Have a nice day —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.163.126.201 ( talk) 20:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Apologies Stephen.
This computer is shared.
Will Make sure no more "vandalism" Is carried out.
Although I take Issue with the amount of complaints of Mr Mckenzies comments on Oct 11. Last count it was over 350 (Daily Record Oct 13th)
Thank-you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.33.104 ( talk) 09:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I haven't edit any Wikipedia pages in months! the only thing I did on Wikipedia other then looking thing up is i was two articles on the same thing and said in the discussion page that they need to be merged( combined ) and that was even this week! I really have know idea what you meant by "Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted" what ever you edited wasn't posted my me and I'm the only won using this system.
I'd really like to know, what you think I'm doing or did to Wikipedia? I REALLY don't know what it is your talking about!, Thank.
66.38.139.110 18:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC) Brad_Yo
I was just trying to let someone know that the page had been vandalized. Someone wrote "PIE IS GOOD" for the plot. I figured if I made a change someone might be able to detect it, and apparently I was right, but I promise I wasn't trying to do harm. As for the Charles Dickens article, it's possible it was someone else in the household, but I am unaware of the event. Thanks for helping though, I guess next time I'll wait it out until someone else finds the mistake.
yes this is high school network in texas all computers are on the same ip so i havent been changing things other people have soto fix that im signing up so when i get on wikipedia i dont get blamed for changing stuff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.16.90.226 ( talk) 18:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I have never made any edits in Wikipedia
Stephen
An article that you have been involved in editing, Raising Malawi, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raising Malawi. Thank you. NewAtThis ( talk) 23:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
You claim that the material I edited in the Littlejohn article is well-sourced and relevant; I beg to differ – all of the sources come from Johann Hari, his personal arch-enemy, and therefore could never be used in a biographical article. You speak about courtesy to Wikipedia users, but how about courtesy towards the subject of the article? As someone who comes from academic world, I can assure you this simply wouldn't pass the test.
Moreover, the Hari diatribes were further twisted. Consider the following example: "Littlejohn lives in Florida in the United States for much of the year". This statement is given the following citation: ^Johann Hari "Why does the right hate Britain so much?", The Independent, 6 August 2007. Retrieved on 21 August 2007." If one bothers to click on the link to the actual article, Hari writes: "[Littlejohn] writes many of his anti-British screeds from a gated mansion in Florida, where he spends months on end". Now, there are several problems with this quote alone, implying that Littlejohn is not really British, but it doesn't claim that he spends all his time in America. This list goes on and on.
I therefore challenge you to revise Hari vs Littlejohn polemic in a way that does not sound like a propaganda piece written by a Hari groupie, and then go onto my page criticising me of discourtesy. Eliyyahu 15:38, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I'm waiting for your answer in the talk page. Thanks. Evenfiel 02:52, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Dear Stephen, I am a university instructor. I sometimes like to contribute to wikipedia. I have prepared discussion questions for the following and published them on my blog. Many students and teachers refer to my page: Sandra Cisneros's Barbie-Q Peter Weir's The Truman Show Joyce Carol Oates's Where are you going, where have you been... etc.
However, wikipedia editors keep removing my contributions. "Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Sandra_Cisneros. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion." I think you are extremely rude. I don't think that the contributions I have been trying to make cannot be considered spamming. And I don't think I am using my blog and wikipedia as vehicles for advertising and promotion. Your explanation is unacceptable; your treatment is unfair. I spend so much time formulating questions. And all this is for non-profit purposes. Therefore, I believe that wikipedia editors should reconsider their decisions. This is unfair and I must add that I find your approach racist, too. Regards Ali Nihat Eken, Ph.D. in Educational Sciences Istanbul, Turkey —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alim2007 ( talk • contribs) 18:12, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
I recently ran into a message you left on the above user's page about a vandalism entry that came from my IP. Just in case this user continues to vandalize Wikipedia, I thought I would write a message indicating that it is not me, in case someone comes to that conclusion. Cheers. -- Wolfrider 00:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Why do you keep removing my removal of the term American? He is clearly talking about people from the nation of United States, not about Americans. I also think it is very dishonest to just label my contributions as vandalism when there is a clear error in the paragraph. - Lapinmies 15:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Hey Stephen Burnett, I don't mind reveting vandalism on this userpage or elsewhere. If you would like me to semi-protect your userpage, let me know. Thanks, - Gilliam 09:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
Please read WP:Don't bite the newbies. I was going to welcome 69.228.146.169 and use the test edits warn from Twinkle (he edited Piracy and reverted his own edit) but then saw you already did. I know it probably wasn't your intention but it sounded a little mean. You might like to use the the Test Edits Warn from Twinkle:
Welcome, and thank you for experimenting with (Optional: the page <insert page name> on) Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been
reverted or removed. Please take a look at the
welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment further, please use the
sandbox. Optional Message here ~~~~
If you don't have it already I really suggest getting Twinkle, it's a program you paste into your script section of Wikipedia and adds some rollback buttons, warns and a few other things (it's for vandal-fighting). If you want to reply please do so on my talk page because I'm not good at remembering to look at other peoples. I know you like putting conversations on one page so what you could do is post it on both. Thanks! Deflagro Contribs/ Talk 19:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Stephen,
If I felt the links added no value to your visitors, I wouldn't even have made the effort. But I disagree with your viewpoint. There are several external links I can direct you on your sites that simply add no value. Yet they still appear as links. We have developed a suite of sites devoted to a particular artist, writer, thinker, or philosopher, and presenting the subject's life and works in a way interesting to readers of all ages.
If you feel these sites don't achieve this, then please give me your feedback, so we can improve our offerings.
Sincerely,
Charles Carlini —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.107.138 ( talk) 20:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi Stephen,
I just reverted some more minor vandalism by the user(s) at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:66.203.18.32 and noted that they have had multiple previous warnings. I am not sure how to go about blocking users, etc., so since you had put a warning on the page I thought you could help.
All best,
Conor —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Conmalone (
talk •
contribs)
20:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
I got a new message saying I edited Arthur Conan Doyle's page with vandalism from my IP address and I have never even been to that page until I got the message. Is there a way to remove that from my Wiki record? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.167.132.123 ( talk) 01:58, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
Dude, do you know what Internet Archive is? It is the worlds biggest open source digitization project, it is bigger than Project Gutenberg, in fact PJ often gets its scan from them (well, really the Open Content Alliance). For every article that has a PJ link there should be a corresponding IA link, IA has more texts for each author plus they are original scans with pictures, edition information and letter press. Please, this is not controversial or spam. Also, I want my home page blank, thank you. -- 71.191.36.194 18:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
Page for James Fergason also vandalized. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeinwap ( talk • contribs) 08:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I open Wikipedia and received a message saying I created an unconstructive criticism of Genghis Khan - I don't think so. When i looked for somewhere to protest, your name came up under the '+' drop down tag thing. I am not registered with Wikipedia, and I simply emjoy looking at stuff.
Please respond to garyroberts834@hotmail.com for any fourther clarification. Thanks.
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Genghis Khan, are considered vandalism and immediately reverted. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. --Hdt83 Chat 07:32, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
I do not believe I deleted any content from the Benito Mussolini page. I don't even recall visiting that page. Please provide the text that I removed. I rarely edit any wikipedia pages, and usually that it only for grammatical errors, or to add content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.185.242.79 ( talk) 16:35, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Your feedback on the Johann Hari discussion page, where we are discussing horrendous vandalism by a user who calls him "a self-publicising careerist, and an especially unpleasant one at that," would be really welcome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.30.47 ( talk) 12:04, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Mr. Burnett:
Perhaps you do not understand how the internet functions. You see, I would estimate somewhere around 75% or so of people using the internet from their homes do not have a dedicated IP address. Every time I connect to the internet, I end up with a different IP address every time I connect. Thus, when you send nasty notes to people who vandalize articles but are identified only by IP address, as you did with recent vandalism to George Orwell, the message ends up being received by an entirely different, and innocent person. Receiving such messages just ruins my day. No doubt, I will have a completely different IP address the next time I log in so there is no reason to reply to this message. Have a nice day.
Perhaps you should read the wikipedia article on IP addresses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.163.126.215 ( talk) 21:59, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
As it happens, I do have a wikipedia user ID. But if happen to be connecting from an IP address used previously by someone who vandalized an article it still shows up as logging in does nothing to change my IP address. How much sense does it make to block an IP address when you know there is a better, in fact much better, than 50% chance that the people being blocked from using Wikipedia or the messages sent to "vandals" will in fact only end up blocking or being received by people completely unrelated to the vandalism. Again, perhaps you should learn the difference between a static and non static IP. The fact that there are numerous postings to your talk page from people utterly confused by messages received regarding "vandalism" committed by others only shows how this makes Wikipedia a less user-friendly reference tool.
Could you imagine how awkward it would be if you went to the reference department of your public library and were sternly scolded by the reference librarian because someone who previously sat in the same chair you are now sitting in vandalized a book and since they have no way of identifying who that person was, they just decided to take it out on you instead? Or perhaps they decided to deny entry in to the library to everybody who used a particular section of the parking lot?
It seems absurd when you apply the same logic used by wikipedia to a non electronic reference source, and it is just as absurd here.
Have a nice day —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.163.126.201 ( talk) 20:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Apologies Stephen.
This computer is shared.
Will Make sure no more "vandalism" Is carried out.
Although I take Issue with the amount of complaints of Mr Mckenzies comments on Oct 11. Last count it was over 350 (Daily Record Oct 13th)
Thank-you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.33.104 ( talk) 09:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
I haven't edit any Wikipedia pages in months! the only thing I did on Wikipedia other then looking thing up is i was two articles on the same thing and said in the discussion page that they need to be merged( combined ) and that was even this week! I really have know idea what you meant by "Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted" what ever you edited wasn't posted my me and I'm the only won using this system.
I'd really like to know, what you think I'm doing or did to Wikipedia? I REALLY don't know what it is your talking about!, Thank.
66.38.139.110 18:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC) Brad_Yo
I was just trying to let someone know that the page had been vandalized. Someone wrote "PIE IS GOOD" for the plot. I figured if I made a change someone might be able to detect it, and apparently I was right, but I promise I wasn't trying to do harm. As for the Charles Dickens article, it's possible it was someone else in the household, but I am unaware of the event. Thanks for helping though, I guess next time I'll wait it out until someone else finds the mistake.
yes this is high school network in texas all computers are on the same ip so i havent been changing things other people have soto fix that im signing up so when i get on wikipedia i dont get blamed for changing stuff —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.16.90.226 ( talk) 18:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I have never made any edits in Wikipedia
Stephen
An article that you have been involved in editing, Raising Malawi, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raising Malawi. Thank you. NewAtThis ( talk) 23:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)