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Good afternoon.
I have lived in Woolston all of my life, for 40 years. I was born in Woolston, Warrington, Lancashire. I have been on the local Parish Council since 1989.
Woolston has been in Lancashire for 908 years. The mere fact that it was administered for 24 years by Cheshire County Council is neither here nor there.
When Warrington was administered by Lancashire County Council, no-one in Warrington, south of the Mersey (<22% of it's population) claimed to live anywhere but Cheshire.
Warrington has always been a town of two counties (see the borough council coat of arms that features but the wheatsheaf of Cheshire and the red rose of Lancashire.
With the proliferation of Unitary authorities, maybe it is time for what are chiefly ceremonial counties in many areas, to re-establish their traditional boundaries.
Administrational geopolitical borders change frequently whether it is for the common good or good old fashioned gerrymandering, county boundaries have NEVER changed.
Worth also mentioning on the page that Woolston was the birthplace and home of 'Old Billy', accepted widely as the only reliably aged horse to have lived over 55 years. In fact, he holds the record by in excess of 7 years, a life that included 30 years of work pulling barges on the Bridgewater Canal and in excess of 30 years in retirement, living out his last few years in a field where the Grange Sports and Social club is nowadys in Latchford, Warrington, Cheshire. Billy was born in 1760 on an undetermined date and passed away on 25-11-1822. He lived throughout the entire reign of King George III (1760-1820)and was over 62 years of age when he died. There are paintings of Old Billy from 1820, grazing in a meadow opposite the rear of St Elphin's parish church, which at the time had a dome not the spire that is visible for miles around today!
Shaun Reid Hampton BSc (Hons), MSc, PCGE, MPhil, FRGS.
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Many thanks for your response. Whilst I appreciate what you are saying, you cannot have it both ways. Warrington ceased to be adminstered by Lancashire and came out of Lancashire in 1974, when the administrative (not county) boundary changed. Surely when we ceased to be adminstered by Cheshire in 1998, we came out of Cheshire also! You cannot come out of Lancashire and not Cheshire as a result of the same process - administrative boundary changes! I am sure this would be the line of the Boundary Commission, as we have a unitary authority. Therefore Warrington is NOT in ANY administrative county at present but in county terms must revert to its' TWO ceremonial counties - Cheshire south of the Mersey and Lancashire North of the Mersey!!
Following the Wikipedia accepted logic therefore we are no more in Cheshire now, as we were in Lancashire in 1984.
Thanks
Shaun
If you, Srh27041968, wish to mention the fact that some places used to be in Lancashire, then it would be perverse for anyone to say that that would be unacceptable if it were placed in a History section, so go ahead. However, placing it in the lead as if it were the current situation would be giving it far too much weight in a position in the article which would not be the best place for it. Place it, along with adequate references (or ask for help to get the references right) in a History section, and I'm sure all will be well.
If you are a parish councillor (which I believe you said, above), then you must surely know that the Lieutenancy for Cheshire still covers Warrington even after it was made a unitary authority, which indicates that Warrington is still in the ceremonial country of Cheshire, regardless of its unitary authority status, and so that should give you enough of an idea that the advice I have given is correct, that the guidelines I have pointed you to are sensible, and that you can proceed in the way forward I have suggested. If you are not sure, then I'm sure a question to either the parish clerk (Mr D Pendleton, as indicated on this website) or the current chairman (I'm not sure who that is now) would quickly get the correct information, or would you like me to get the ball rolling on that for you? DDStretch (talk) 21:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
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DDStretch
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12:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Good afternoon.
I have lived in Woolston all of my life, for 40 years. I was born in Woolston, Warrington, Lancashire. I have been on the local Parish Council since 1989.
Woolston has been in Lancashire for 908 years. The mere fact that it was administered for 24 years by Cheshire County Council is neither here nor there.
When Warrington was administered by Lancashire County Council, no-one in Warrington, south of the Mersey (<22% of it's population) claimed to live anywhere but Cheshire.
Warrington has always been a town of two counties (see the borough council coat of arms that features but the wheatsheaf of Cheshire and the red rose of Lancashire.
With the proliferation of Unitary authorities, maybe it is time for what are chiefly ceremonial counties in many areas, to re-establish their traditional boundaries.
Administrational geopolitical borders change frequently whether it is for the common good or good old fashioned gerrymandering, county boundaries have NEVER changed.
Worth also mentioning on the page that Woolston was the birthplace and home of 'Old Billy', accepted widely as the only reliably aged horse to have lived over 55 years. In fact, he holds the record by in excess of 7 years, a life that included 30 years of work pulling barges on the Bridgewater Canal and in excess of 30 years in retirement, living out his last few years in a field where the Grange Sports and Social club is nowadys in Latchford, Warrington, Cheshire. Billy was born in 1760 on an undetermined date and passed away on 25-11-1822. He lived throughout the entire reign of King George III (1760-1820)and was over 62 years of age when he died. There are paintings of Old Billy from 1820, grazing in a meadow opposite the rear of St Elphin's parish church, which at the time had a dome not the spire that is visible for miles around today!
Shaun Reid Hampton BSc (Hons), MSc, PCGE, MPhil, FRGS.
|
Many thanks for your response. Whilst I appreciate what you are saying, you cannot have it both ways. Warrington ceased to be adminstered by Lancashire and came out of Lancashire in 1974, when the administrative (not county) boundary changed. Surely when we ceased to be adminstered by Cheshire in 1998, we came out of Cheshire also! You cannot come out of Lancashire and not Cheshire as a result of the same process - administrative boundary changes! I am sure this would be the line of the Boundary Commission, as we have a unitary authority. Therefore Warrington is NOT in ANY administrative county at present but in county terms must revert to its' TWO ceremonial counties - Cheshire south of the Mersey and Lancashire North of the Mersey!!
Following the Wikipedia accepted logic therefore we are no more in Cheshire now, as we were in Lancashire in 1984.
Thanks
Shaun
If you, Srh27041968, wish to mention the fact that some places used to be in Lancashire, then it would be perverse for anyone to say that that would be unacceptable if it were placed in a History section, so go ahead. However, placing it in the lead as if it were the current situation would be giving it far too much weight in a position in the article which would not be the best place for it. Place it, along with adequate references (or ask for help to get the references right) in a History section, and I'm sure all will be well.
If you are a parish councillor (which I believe you said, above), then you must surely know that the Lieutenancy for Cheshire still covers Warrington even after it was made a unitary authority, which indicates that Warrington is still in the ceremonial country of Cheshire, regardless of its unitary authority status, and so that should give you enough of an idea that the advice I have given is correct, that the guidelines I have pointed you to are sensible, and that you can proceed in the way forward I have suggested. If you are not sure, then I'm sure a question to either the parish clerk (Mr D Pendleton, as indicated on this website) or the current chairman (I'm not sure who that is now) would quickly get the correct information, or would you like me to get the ball rolling on that for you? DDStretch (talk) 21:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)