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Hi, I got reprimanded for posting a bunch of recipes on Mulsim culture of Hyderabad. I will be reverting the page so if your edits go away...I'm sorry :( User:Salmaakbar.
It's usual to list all schools, museums, universities, etc., in articles on towns; why are you deleting them? -- Phronima 19:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I just wanted to tell you of my intentions with Qaumi Tarana. I asked for it to be speedily deleted because I want to move Pak sarzamin shad bad to Qaumi Tarana as I udnerstand from several websites that Qaumi Tarana is the actual name of the national anthem and Pak sarzamin shad bad is just the first line. If you find the article Qaumi Tarana has been deleted, please don't add a restart it. Thanks. Green Giant 22:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Salam. I was cleaning up articles about Pakistan, including categories. Do we need a category Swat? I had also been adding articles in wrong hierarchies until recently, but now I know how it's supposed to work (or so I think). For example, the city Swat shouldn't be in Category:Pakistan, it should be in Category:Cities in Pakistan, which should be in Category:Pakistan. That way when you go to the Category page of Category:Pakistan, you'll find sub-categories like Cities in Pakistan, Rivers in Pakistan, Valleys in Pakistan (which btw needs more articles in it). I'm not sure how does category Swat fit in. What do you think? Discuss with Green Giant as well.
Also, we need a category about Districts in Northern Areas. The Northern Areas have a very poor categorization, I cleaned up the Category:Northern Areas and made a Category:Cities in Northern Areas, and a Category:Regions in Northern Areas (that lists places like Hunza, excluding Hunza (Karimabad) which lies under cities). But we need more Categories under Category:Northern Areas. Waqas.usman 05:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
My understanding is that the district and the city are now coterminous. Is there a separate district government from the city district government? Are the areas covered different? The situation is similar to the U.S. case of Washington, DC and the District of Columbia. Polaron 11:57, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
The concept of Muslim being brother (all for one, one for all) is not a new concept. We being Muslims believe in Khalifat, the concept created by Muhammad (PBUH) and that concept was not created in 1900 as described in the articles with names Pan-Islamism and Muslim Unity. I wish if you can help in doing major modification in Pan-Islamism and Muslim Unity articles. I do not know that what the need of these articles is when a good article of Khalifat already exists. I will really appreciate you help. --- Faisal 20:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
We're discussing what this category should be named and we'd like to know if it is intended for just Muslim people or more general lists about the religion as well. We'd appreciate your input. Thanks. -- JeffW 13:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Islamic mathematics is an established term used by historians of mathematics to refer to a certain place/period (see the article for details). Islamic mathematcians don't have to be Muslims strictly speaking, so you can't simple merge the two categories. I can't say anything about astronomy/geography/etc. with any authority, but I suspect the same applies here as well. Cheers, — Ruud 13:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Don't merge. The Television and radio stations in Pakistan must have sepearate pages. Pakistan with five regional languages and 165 million people will have hundreds of radio and television stations. The online radio stations are also becaming easier and cheaper to maintain, soon people will adding these channels also. The mass media is exploding and one page will not be enough. We must have seperate pages:
Siddiqui 12:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
-- Spasage 13:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Why are you changing from Hill stations in Pakistan to Hill stations of Pakistan? Is there a dicision taken somewhere else, which I dont know, or you want to change cat name? -- Spasage 12:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
I haved added the info about TV networks removed by Aursani and Green Giant.
Comment by in Karachi Discussion page:
Siddiqui 18:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Why you remove information about General ZI Abbasi
Hi Spasage,
I am in the process of changing the (catmore) back to (main), as i have released what I have done wrong. If you have found anymore that have the (catmore) title that should be (main|__) then do let me know.
Many thanks Fast track 19:12 09 May 2006 (UTC)
The article in anti-islam and Muslims. The tone of article reflects hate against Islam. I will really appreciate if you could contribute in that article. Read it talk page after looking at the article. I hope to get some help of yours. Best regards, --- Faisal 19:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Salam! You reverted these changes without giving any reason: [3]
I don't know why, perhaps you assumed they were bad or what, but please take a look above, the person fixed many typos, urls etc. I'll put the changes back in. I hope you'll be more careful with reverts next time so that useful edits don't get wasted :) Waqas.usman 09:16, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Stop removing word Muslim from Dr Abdus Salam's article. He was a very true Muslim, and you are NOBODY to change his status from Muslim to non-Muslim. In fact your own Islam is completely doubtful on doing such a sinful act of kufr.
You have made wonderful edits in that article sometime back. Now the user named Bharatveer is back. And he reverted our changes. You might need to keep that page in your watch list for reverting backs. --- Faisal 15:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Spasage,
Just like to know what you mean by your edit "Move this category to Category:Karachi District" on the Category:Karachi category. Do you mean to put all the articles in this Category:Karachi into the Category:Karachi District. Or just place the Category:Karachi in Category:Karachi District. -- User:Fast track 23:42 24 May 206 (UTC)
Which Pakistan related articles are effected. Siddiqui 13:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
hi
Your recreation of a deleted category is up for undoing at this link. If transportation is really the correct title, please state so in the discussion and vote keep. Vegaswikian 18:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
The section detailing the CIA's involvement in the coup overthrowing Bhutto is not only unverified, but it can be seen as biased by any neutral observer. Please do not keep adding it. Asad
Is the Z' Black mentioned in the Mardan article a notable fellow ? Can't find anything in google. Tintin ( talk) 05:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with the page Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Steve-o 09:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC) Spasage: If this was a legit blanking, please drop me a note on my talk page with a short reason. Thanks!
Spasage: I rvved it, because it looked like vandalism. This message was simply a request to let me know why you blanked a large portion of the article. I am yet wondering what prompted you to erase parts of the article.
Spasage: I would like to know why is it that you think it necessary to hide the truth about Jinnah and his membership in a cult. And why is it that you feel it necessary to delete my passage about Muslim League being founded by Agha Khan
Why did you restore the Need Classification section on the Salaf page? Give reasons at the discussion page.
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject so????? -- Spasage 05:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Would you like to explain this please? For starters, Matiur Rahman's wife Mili Rahman said in an interview that she along with her children were imprisoned in the air force base, rather than "taken refuge at indian embassy". I can dig up the reference.
I also provided the name of the crash cite, with the following reference:
The crash site of the T-33 was later found to be in Thatta, 40 km from the Indian border.<ref name="Banglapedia">[http://banglapedia.org/HT/R_0023.htm (Bir Srestha) Matiur Rahman's biography], [[Banglapedia]].</ref>
And, I formatted the reference section in the style of cite.php
So, I find it strange you chose to revert it without an edit summary. I only assume that you have a very good explanation of that revert, I'd like to hear that. Thanks. -- Ragib 07:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I just saw that you edited the page for Dadu Title. It was edited including one of the families history .Any specific reason you edited it back ?
Hi - I appreciate your taking the time to talk about this issue, but please try to understand that there is no nationality or citizenship known as "South Asian" or "British Indian." Iqbal himself talks of "Indian Muslims," and "India." And neither can "Indian subcontinent" be used because its just a broad geographical area that exceedes British India. I appreciate you being civil, and I assure you that I'm not trying to push an Indian nationalist POV. Rama's Arrow 06:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The page Indian is a disambiguation - we must simply add the fact that the word "Indian" was used to describe the people who lived in British India, before changing in 1947 to mean only Republic of India. And I will remove the link to India from the bios of Jinnah and Iqbal. Rama's Arrow 07:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Before 1947
India -> Indian Subcontinent Indian -> Indian, use definations.
After 1947
India -> India Indian -> Indian, use definations.
-- Spasage 07:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I hope you understand my point, THERE IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDIA OF TODAY AND INDIA BEFORE 1947. -- Spasage 05:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
This is the core situation Wikipedia cannot start referring to "partition of British India" or "British rule in Indian subcontinent" or "South Asia independence movement" because it is against conventional use, original research and neologism. We are here to write facts, not evolve different interpretations. Having said that, I completely agree that we cannot speak of Iqbal as someone who lived in the Republic of India - when we describe him as "Indian," it must be clearly understood that this refers to the British colony.
For example, in India disambiguation page:
Reason for talking with you in such detail is, people living in Pakistan and Bandledesh are as Indian as any one living in Republic of India. This is due to simple fact, that they are Indian. If some westerner sees Indian, he cant distinguish between Pakistani, Indian or Bangladeshi. He can say he is India. Also culture, history etc are similar. Variation are there due to people and their choice of living, but fundamentally they all are similar. So, again thanks for you time. Please comment. -- Spasage 07:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Disambiguation pages are not a good idea as they increase the work for both the editors as well as the readers. I have gone through the above discussion and I only see a "solution in search of a problem." It is highly uncalled for. Also, the right place to discuss this would be WT:INWNB. -- Gurubrahma 09:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Would "a _________ from unpartitioned India" do good? I know its contrived, but can't we use that for the sake of political correctness? -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 09:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
India after 1947 consists of three countries, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. When we use word India, in articles, refereeing to whole India, links are such that they bring us to present day India (Republic of India), reducing size of pre-1947 India considerably. Is it possible that when we refer to pre-1947 India we use a term which encompasses whole India not just present day India? Please comment.
I hope members from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh will take this in good spirit and find come to a good conclusion. -- Spasage 09:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Following are options:
-- Spasage 11:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
The term British India can be used only from 1858 to 1947. deeptrivia ( talk) 13:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I like the way the China situation is set up, though I think I find myself in the minority. IMO, India should discuss the historical land known as India and the current India page should be moved to Republic of India. I do agree that something must be done in order to disambiguate the term more appropriately, as the situation now is misleading. Pepsidrinka 00:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I am very pleased to read all above comments, because they are in right direction. One fact on which, we all agree is that India before partition (1947) and after (1947) partition cannot be same. So, we cannot link article to present day India (Republic of India) when discussing pre-partition India, as Ragib, User:Pepsidrinka and others pointed out correctly. So, we should have India (disambiguation) page, as China (disambiguation) have. It describes India, historically and present day Republic of India. Also, it should mention Bangladesh and Pakistan and their link with India. I hope no one will disagree with India (disambiguation), it will be a good starting point. For reference please visit America, it is some what similar to what we are discussing. Please comment on India (disambiguation). -- Spasage 05:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Spasage - sorry to convert your talkpage to the village pump! Yes the talks do look good, but I agree with Gurubrahma that the discussion should be moved to a sub-page of Portal:Asia. This Fire Burns.....Always 05:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
You excised the bulk of the article on Salafi University with the edit summary "rv unsourced". That material was sourced. If you have some other objection to the material, please don't hesitate to say what it is. But please don't say the material was unsourced, when it clearly was sourced.
Cheers. -- Geo Swan 03:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure why you reverted the "and India" as vandalism. It's a complex issue and as I understand Indian Muslims do celebrate Chand Raat because the practice existed before there was a Pakistan. Would it be more appropriate to call it "South Asian Muslims"? gren グレン 09:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, can u help me improve balochistan related pages? particularly the districts, as you may have noticed ive started allready by making infoboxes and adding pictures and maps? can u help me by creating infoboxes aswell, and i will add pictures and maps. cheers! your help would be greatly appreciated!
You wrote: "db|Who is this? Somebody wrote about himself. Unknow. Remove it without wasting time."
I don't understand why you reverted to the original form on the Zia-ul-Haq page. All the images have gotten citations.
I noticed your interest the page on List of Muslim of soldiers, in that case you may be interested in the following pages as well and might think about linking the the pages up with Muslim History and List of wars in the Islamic world.-- Tigeroo 11:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello - I see you removed the redirect at Pakistani journalists, leaving a blank article. I believe I understand that you removed it because it redirected to a category, which makes sense I think. I also see you've done a lot of work on similar articles. Do you know of any articles that Pakistani journalists could be re-directed to? If not, let me know and I will put it up for deletion. Thanks! -- AbsolutDan (talk) 13:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
please do not remove the pics on the mohajir page espacially of the 1992 operation
well experienced suggestions are always welcome and should be acted upon. No doubt about it. But it is also needed that others should try not to dictate what one should do and what not...especially if the suggestion is connected not to their contributions, but to their own freedom of speech, act and decision.
I saw you "rvv"-ed my latest addition to Haripur District. I added Pir Sabir Shah, who was the Chief Minister of NWFP under Nawaz Sharif government to give a balanced POV since Raja Sikander Zaman belongs to an opposite political party. If you want to keep this addition out in case it adds poitical bias, that is fine but I guess taking Raja Sikander Zaman out would be fair as well. It wasn't vandalism at all. I added most of the stuff related to Haripur and Haripur District, being a native of it and most of it is referenced and NPOV. Thanks.
LopezKahn 13:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
LopezKahn 15:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
== Muhammad Ghori changes ==
"Muhammad, like his predacessors, routinely destroyed non-muslim temples, priests and towns while his armies pillaged and raped their way across the Indus. In Bihari folklore, it is said that his invading armies often destroyed entire towns only to find valuable scrolls and manuscripts in town libraries useless as all inhabitants who could read and write in the language were slaughtered."
I noticed you deleted the line. Please read John Keay's "A history of India." The anecdote is directly from his book.
Also it is important to express Ghori's effect on the non-muslim population of the Indian sub-continent (ie. destruction of Hindu/Jain temples). If you would like to re-word it, be my guest but please do not delete that again because it happens to be a fact.
An anon ( Special:Contributions&target=82.0.153.165) has been adding "National symbols of Pakistan" to various pages. He claims that Mango is the national fruit, Rhododendron is the national flower, Khyber pass is the national pass,Dolphin is the national marine mammal, Benazir Bhutto is a national symbol of Pakistan, Lahore Resolution is the national document, and so on. It seems to me that most of these are just arbitrary designations lacking any official status. Could you clarify these? At least, Rhododendron isn't the national flower, right? (google shows Jasmine).
He also added a lot of "provincial language", "regional language" tags to Demographics of Pakistan ... please correct them if those are not the official status of the languages.
Thanks. -- Ragib 14:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Helloo Spasage. Since you are somewhat familiar with Umer Sharif, might you be able to help improve the state of this article by citing reliable sources in accordance with our WP:BLP policy, and perhaps even add a brief rating on the talk page? ;-) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 19:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
i thought people from pakistan were also called Pakis (Like when i visited the UK)
Dave , Montana VA
I wish you wouldn't slip in a precious gift so quietly! Thank you very much sir. Please accept this token from me - I was most positively impressed by your initiative and candour in the affair. Cheers, Rama's arrow 00:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
The project mentioned above could be eligible for deletion as it currently has no members. I strongly suggest that you add yourself to the membership list. Also, you might be able to clarify the goals and activities of the project by various sources, including the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide. Badbilltucker 15:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The project you created above is technically eligible for deletion if it has no current members, as is now the case. I noted that you did a lot of work on this page, and wanted to make sure that you were given the chance to keep it active before it was nominated for deletion. Badbilltucker 19:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
All the best to you and your family! Rama's arrow 00:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi - Please do me the kindness of visiting and sharing your views at Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2. I need your advice and criticism, and I would be immensely grateful if you could spare a little time on this. Thank you, Rama's arrow 15:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
When I started my second editor review, I had no idea how greatly helpful it would be to me. Here are people from across the world who I've never met or laid eyes upon, taking their personal time to think about me and offer me valuable criticism and advice. And the stuff I've learnt is more helpful in real life than just on Wikipedia. This is an experiment I will never forget. I thank you most sincerely for your kindness, for helping me be a better person. I am very much in your debt. Rama's arrow 15:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I will be proposing this page for speedy deletion after discussion. Siddiqui 03:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Just found a link on the Pakistan talk page that is asking fellow Wikipedians to join so we can start to improve Pakistani related articles, you have done alot of work with sorting out categories and articles so maybe many of us can get together to advance the work further. Check it out - Wikipedia:WikiProject/List of proposed projects -- Fast track 16:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
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I just reverted this edit, because the editor had added this text to other talk pages. I'm just explaining what I'm doing here. Graham 87 04:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
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Hi, I got reprimanded for posting a bunch of recipes on Mulsim culture of Hyderabad. I will be reverting the page so if your edits go away...I'm sorry :( User:Salmaakbar.
It's usual to list all schools, museums, universities, etc., in articles on towns; why are you deleting them? -- Phronima 19:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I just wanted to tell you of my intentions with Qaumi Tarana. I asked for it to be speedily deleted because I want to move Pak sarzamin shad bad to Qaumi Tarana as I udnerstand from several websites that Qaumi Tarana is the actual name of the national anthem and Pak sarzamin shad bad is just the first line. If you find the article Qaumi Tarana has been deleted, please don't add a restart it. Thanks. Green Giant 22:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Salam. I was cleaning up articles about Pakistan, including categories. Do we need a category Swat? I had also been adding articles in wrong hierarchies until recently, but now I know how it's supposed to work (or so I think). For example, the city Swat shouldn't be in Category:Pakistan, it should be in Category:Cities in Pakistan, which should be in Category:Pakistan. That way when you go to the Category page of Category:Pakistan, you'll find sub-categories like Cities in Pakistan, Rivers in Pakistan, Valleys in Pakistan (which btw needs more articles in it). I'm not sure how does category Swat fit in. What do you think? Discuss with Green Giant as well.
Also, we need a category about Districts in Northern Areas. The Northern Areas have a very poor categorization, I cleaned up the Category:Northern Areas and made a Category:Cities in Northern Areas, and a Category:Regions in Northern Areas (that lists places like Hunza, excluding Hunza (Karimabad) which lies under cities). But we need more Categories under Category:Northern Areas. Waqas.usman 05:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
My understanding is that the district and the city are now coterminous. Is there a separate district government from the city district government? Are the areas covered different? The situation is similar to the U.S. case of Washington, DC and the District of Columbia. Polaron 11:57, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
The concept of Muslim being brother (all for one, one for all) is not a new concept. We being Muslims believe in Khalifat, the concept created by Muhammad (PBUH) and that concept was not created in 1900 as described in the articles with names Pan-Islamism and Muslim Unity. I wish if you can help in doing major modification in Pan-Islamism and Muslim Unity articles. I do not know that what the need of these articles is when a good article of Khalifat already exists. I will really appreciate you help. --- Faisal 20:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
We're discussing what this category should be named and we'd like to know if it is intended for just Muslim people or more general lists about the religion as well. We'd appreciate your input. Thanks. -- JeffW 13:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Islamic mathematics is an established term used by historians of mathematics to refer to a certain place/period (see the article for details). Islamic mathematcians don't have to be Muslims strictly speaking, so you can't simple merge the two categories. I can't say anything about astronomy/geography/etc. with any authority, but I suspect the same applies here as well. Cheers, — Ruud 13:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Don't merge. The Television and radio stations in Pakistan must have sepearate pages. Pakistan with five regional languages and 165 million people will have hundreds of radio and television stations. The online radio stations are also becaming easier and cheaper to maintain, soon people will adding these channels also. The mass media is exploding and one page will not be enough. We must have seperate pages:
Siddiqui 12:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
-- Spasage 13:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Why are you changing from Hill stations in Pakistan to Hill stations of Pakistan? Is there a dicision taken somewhere else, which I dont know, or you want to change cat name? -- Spasage 12:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
I haved added the info about TV networks removed by Aursani and Green Giant.
Comment by in Karachi Discussion page:
Siddiqui 18:58, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Why you remove information about General ZI Abbasi
Hi Spasage,
I am in the process of changing the (catmore) back to (main), as i have released what I have done wrong. If you have found anymore that have the (catmore) title that should be (main|__) then do let me know.
Many thanks Fast track 19:12 09 May 2006 (UTC)
The article in anti-islam and Muslims. The tone of article reflects hate against Islam. I will really appreciate if you could contribute in that article. Read it talk page after looking at the article. I hope to get some help of yours. Best regards, --- Faisal 19:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Salam! You reverted these changes without giving any reason: [3]
I don't know why, perhaps you assumed they were bad or what, but please take a look above, the person fixed many typos, urls etc. I'll put the changes back in. I hope you'll be more careful with reverts next time so that useful edits don't get wasted :) Waqas.usman 09:16, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Stop removing word Muslim from Dr Abdus Salam's article. He was a very true Muslim, and you are NOBODY to change his status from Muslim to non-Muslim. In fact your own Islam is completely doubtful on doing such a sinful act of kufr.
You have made wonderful edits in that article sometime back. Now the user named Bharatveer is back. And he reverted our changes. You might need to keep that page in your watch list for reverting backs. --- Faisal 15:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Spasage,
Just like to know what you mean by your edit "Move this category to Category:Karachi District" on the Category:Karachi category. Do you mean to put all the articles in this Category:Karachi into the Category:Karachi District. Or just place the Category:Karachi in Category:Karachi District. -- User:Fast track 23:42 24 May 206 (UTC)
Which Pakistan related articles are effected. Siddiqui 13:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
hi
Your recreation of a deleted category is up for undoing at this link. If transportation is really the correct title, please state so in the discussion and vote keep. Vegaswikian 18:01, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
The section detailing the CIA's involvement in the coup overthrowing Bhutto is not only unverified, but it can be seen as biased by any neutral observer. Please do not keep adding it. Asad
Is the Z' Black mentioned in the Mardan article a notable fellow ? Can't find anything in google. Tintin ( talk) 05:31, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for experimenting with the page Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman on Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Steve-o 09:07, 15 June 2006 (UTC) Spasage: If this was a legit blanking, please drop me a note on my talk page with a short reason. Thanks!
Spasage: I rvved it, because it looked like vandalism. This message was simply a request to let me know why you blanked a large portion of the article. I am yet wondering what prompted you to erase parts of the article.
Spasage: I would like to know why is it that you think it necessary to hide the truth about Jinnah and his membership in a cult. And why is it that you feel it necessary to delete my passage about Muslim League being founded by Agha Khan
Why did you restore the Need Classification section on the Salaf page? Give reasons at the discussion page.
This article or section is in need of attention from an expert on the subject so????? -- Spasage 05:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Would you like to explain this please? For starters, Matiur Rahman's wife Mili Rahman said in an interview that she along with her children were imprisoned in the air force base, rather than "taken refuge at indian embassy". I can dig up the reference.
I also provided the name of the crash cite, with the following reference:
The crash site of the T-33 was later found to be in Thatta, 40 km from the Indian border.<ref name="Banglapedia">[http://banglapedia.org/HT/R_0023.htm (Bir Srestha) Matiur Rahman's biography], [[Banglapedia]].</ref>
And, I formatted the reference section in the style of cite.php
So, I find it strange you chose to revert it without an edit summary. I only assume that you have a very good explanation of that revert, I'd like to hear that. Thanks. -- Ragib 07:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I just saw that you edited the page for Dadu Title. It was edited including one of the families history .Any specific reason you edited it back ?
Hi - I appreciate your taking the time to talk about this issue, but please try to understand that there is no nationality or citizenship known as "South Asian" or "British Indian." Iqbal himself talks of "Indian Muslims," and "India." And neither can "Indian subcontinent" be used because its just a broad geographical area that exceedes British India. I appreciate you being civil, and I assure you that I'm not trying to push an Indian nationalist POV. Rama's Arrow 06:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The page Indian is a disambiguation - we must simply add the fact that the word "Indian" was used to describe the people who lived in British India, before changing in 1947 to mean only Republic of India. And I will remove the link to India from the bios of Jinnah and Iqbal. Rama's Arrow 07:04, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Before 1947
India -> Indian Subcontinent Indian -> Indian, use definations.
After 1947
India -> India Indian -> Indian, use definations.
-- Spasage 07:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I hope you understand my point, THERE IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN INDIA OF TODAY AND INDIA BEFORE 1947. -- Spasage 05:22, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
This is the core situation Wikipedia cannot start referring to "partition of British India" or "British rule in Indian subcontinent" or "South Asia independence movement" because it is against conventional use, original research and neologism. We are here to write facts, not evolve different interpretations. Having said that, I completely agree that we cannot speak of Iqbal as someone who lived in the Republic of India - when we describe him as "Indian," it must be clearly understood that this refers to the British colony.
For example, in India disambiguation page:
Reason for talking with you in such detail is, people living in Pakistan and Bandledesh are as Indian as any one living in Republic of India. This is due to simple fact, that they are Indian. If some westerner sees Indian, he cant distinguish between Pakistani, Indian or Bangladeshi. He can say he is India. Also culture, history etc are similar. Variation are there due to people and their choice of living, but fundamentally they all are similar. So, again thanks for you time. Please comment. -- Spasage 07:49, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Disambiguation pages are not a good idea as they increase the work for both the editors as well as the readers. I have gone through the above discussion and I only see a "solution in search of a problem." It is highly uncalled for. Also, the right place to discuss this would be WT:INWNB. -- Gurubrahma 09:00, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Would "a _________ from unpartitioned India" do good? I know its contrived, but can't we use that for the sake of political correctness? -- Sundar \ talk \ contribs 09:07, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
India after 1947 consists of three countries, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. When we use word India, in articles, refereeing to whole India, links are such that they bring us to present day India (Republic of India), reducing size of pre-1947 India considerably. Is it possible that when we refer to pre-1947 India we use a term which encompasses whole India not just present day India? Please comment.
I hope members from Pakistan, India and Bangladesh will take this in good spirit and find come to a good conclusion. -- Spasage 09:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
Following are options:
-- Spasage 11:31, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
The term British India can be used only from 1858 to 1947. deeptrivia ( talk) 13:14, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I like the way the China situation is set up, though I think I find myself in the minority. IMO, India should discuss the historical land known as India and the current India page should be moved to Republic of India. I do agree that something must be done in order to disambiguate the term more appropriately, as the situation now is misleading. Pepsidrinka 00:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I am very pleased to read all above comments, because they are in right direction. One fact on which, we all agree is that India before partition (1947) and after (1947) partition cannot be same. So, we cannot link article to present day India (Republic of India) when discussing pre-partition India, as Ragib, User:Pepsidrinka and others pointed out correctly. So, we should have India (disambiguation) page, as China (disambiguation) have. It describes India, historically and present day Republic of India. Also, it should mention Bangladesh and Pakistan and their link with India. I hope no one will disagree with India (disambiguation), it will be a good starting point. For reference please visit America, it is some what similar to what we are discussing. Please comment on India (disambiguation). -- Spasage 05:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Spasage - sorry to convert your talkpage to the village pump! Yes the talks do look good, but I agree with Gurubrahma that the discussion should be moved to a sub-page of Portal:Asia. This Fire Burns.....Always 05:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
You excised the bulk of the article on Salafi University with the edit summary "rv unsourced". That material was sourced. If you have some other objection to the material, please don't hesitate to say what it is. But please don't say the material was unsourced, when it clearly was sourced.
Cheers. -- Geo Swan 03:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure why you reverted the "and India" as vandalism. It's a complex issue and as I understand Indian Muslims do celebrate Chand Raat because the practice existed before there was a Pakistan. Would it be more appropriate to call it "South Asian Muslims"? gren グレン 09:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, can u help me improve balochistan related pages? particularly the districts, as you may have noticed ive started allready by making infoboxes and adding pictures and maps? can u help me by creating infoboxes aswell, and i will add pictures and maps. cheers! your help would be greatly appreciated!
You wrote: "db|Who is this? Somebody wrote about himself. Unknow. Remove it without wasting time."
I don't understand why you reverted to the original form on the Zia-ul-Haq page. All the images have gotten citations.
I noticed your interest the page on List of Muslim of soldiers, in that case you may be interested in the following pages as well and might think about linking the the pages up with Muslim History and List of wars in the Islamic world.-- Tigeroo 11:46, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello - I see you removed the redirect at Pakistani journalists, leaving a blank article. I believe I understand that you removed it because it redirected to a category, which makes sense I think. I also see you've done a lot of work on similar articles. Do you know of any articles that Pakistani journalists could be re-directed to? If not, let me know and I will put it up for deletion. Thanks! -- AbsolutDan (talk) 13:04, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
please do not remove the pics on the mohajir page espacially of the 1992 operation
well experienced suggestions are always welcome and should be acted upon. No doubt about it. But it is also needed that others should try not to dictate what one should do and what not...especially if the suggestion is connected not to their contributions, but to their own freedom of speech, act and decision.
I saw you "rvv"-ed my latest addition to Haripur District. I added Pir Sabir Shah, who was the Chief Minister of NWFP under Nawaz Sharif government to give a balanced POV since Raja Sikander Zaman belongs to an opposite political party. If you want to keep this addition out in case it adds poitical bias, that is fine but I guess taking Raja Sikander Zaman out would be fair as well. It wasn't vandalism at all. I added most of the stuff related to Haripur and Haripur District, being a native of it and most of it is referenced and NPOV. Thanks.
LopezKahn 13:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
LopezKahn 15:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
== Muhammad Ghori changes ==
"Muhammad, like his predacessors, routinely destroyed non-muslim temples, priests and towns while his armies pillaged and raped their way across the Indus. In Bihari folklore, it is said that his invading armies often destroyed entire towns only to find valuable scrolls and manuscripts in town libraries useless as all inhabitants who could read and write in the language were slaughtered."
I noticed you deleted the line. Please read John Keay's "A history of India." The anecdote is directly from his book.
Also it is important to express Ghori's effect on the non-muslim population of the Indian sub-continent (ie. destruction of Hindu/Jain temples). If you would like to re-word it, be my guest but please do not delete that again because it happens to be a fact.
An anon ( Special:Contributions&target=82.0.153.165) has been adding "National symbols of Pakistan" to various pages. He claims that Mango is the national fruit, Rhododendron is the national flower, Khyber pass is the national pass,Dolphin is the national marine mammal, Benazir Bhutto is a national symbol of Pakistan, Lahore Resolution is the national document, and so on. It seems to me that most of these are just arbitrary designations lacking any official status. Could you clarify these? At least, Rhododendron isn't the national flower, right? (google shows Jasmine).
He also added a lot of "provincial language", "regional language" tags to Demographics of Pakistan ... please correct them if those are not the official status of the languages.
Thanks. -- Ragib 14:40, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Helloo Spasage. Since you are somewhat familiar with Umer Sharif, might you be able to help improve the state of this article by citing reliable sources in accordance with our WP:BLP policy, and perhaps even add a brief rating on the talk page? ;-) Can't sleep, clown will eat me 19:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
i thought people from pakistan were also called Pakis (Like when i visited the UK)
Dave , Montana VA
I wish you wouldn't slip in a precious gift so quietly! Thank you very much sir. Please accept this token from me - I was most positively impressed by your initiative and candour in the affair. Cheers, Rama's arrow 00:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
The project mentioned above could be eligible for deletion as it currently has no members. I strongly suggest that you add yourself to the membership list. Also, you might be able to clarify the goals and activities of the project by various sources, including the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide. Badbilltucker 15:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
The project you created above is technically eligible for deletion if it has no current members, as is now the case. I noted that you did a lot of work on this page, and wanted to make sure that you were given the chance to keep it active before it was nominated for deletion. Badbilltucker 19:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
All the best to you and your family! Rama's arrow 00:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi - Please do me the kindness of visiting and sharing your views at Wikipedia:Editor review/Rama's Arrow 2. I need your advice and criticism, and I would be immensely grateful if you could spare a little time on this. Thank you, Rama's arrow 15:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
When I started my second editor review, I had no idea how greatly helpful it would be to me. Here are people from across the world who I've never met or laid eyes upon, taking their personal time to think about me and offer me valuable criticism and advice. And the stuff I've learnt is more helpful in real life than just on Wikipedia. This is an experiment I will never forget. I thank you most sincerely for your kindness, for helping me be a better person. I am very much in your debt. Rama's arrow 15:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I will be proposing this page for speedy deletion after discussion. Siddiqui 03:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Just found a link on the Pakistan talk page that is asking fellow Wikipedians to join so we can start to improve Pakistani related articles, you have done alot of work with sorting out categories and articles so maybe many of us can get together to advance the work further. Check it out - Wikipedia:WikiProject/List of proposed projects -- Fast track 16:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
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I just reverted this edit, because the editor had added this text to other talk pages. I'm just explaining what I'm doing here. Graham 87 04:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
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