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Hey Spiff. I'm unsure about WP's policy on writing names in native scripts in a bio. User:keyan20 has reverted me on this article, and has stated "Her ancestors were tamils and that Only counts", while the subject herself has claimed to be from Kerala. I'm unsure of whether to revert him again. Please advise. Talkback on my profile plese - Amog | Talk • contribs 15:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
the image has been taken by my very own friend...it has been reproduced and used everywhere from orkut to facebook to every other social media page!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pranav21391 ( talk • contribs) 08:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Please don't vandalize other's articles. If you don't like an article discuss your points first on the discussion page. Your own contributions consist of two-liners. The wikipedia is not a telephone directory. Therefore please be modest and tolerant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.252.77.66 ( talk) 13:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Semi-protected it for a day, added to pending changes. Dougweller ( talk) 13:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Can you tell how talking is disruptive beahaviour???
Pran (
talk)
13:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
It is deleted instead of removing all copyright elements talk to me why??? Pran ( talk) 13:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I have a feeling that User:Babyboy33 and User:Padmalakshmisx are one and the same, sockpuppet style. BollyJeff || talk 13:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
A month back the account Mackolinson removed something from your talk page and stopped editing after that. Today while stalking your talk page, i came across User talk:Pranavkarnik92, whose talk page says "Hello! I am Mac Kolinson,from USA". Sock?-- Sodabottle ( talk) 14:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Can you tell me why you have degraded the above article to C Class? Please explain the measures that have to be take to improve the article. Please place a talkback in my talk page. R.Sivanesh ✆ 12:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
See my note on the talk page. Before I start chopping, it would be wise to get rid of what I suspect are at least a half dozen sock puppets. Drmies ( talk) 15:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shinas-- Sodabottle ( talk) 17:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
External Links: removed from Nirnayam - please remove external links from UDAY KIRANS ARTICLE ALSO ?? WHAT RU DOING SLEEPING WHEN PEOPLE ADD YOU TUBE VIDEOS IN OTHER ARTICLES)
please dont make genuine editors a constant victims of over vigilance Charmee3Apples ( talk) 20:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)).
I added this text in Mudugar article now i am confused if the Dina Mani article discusses about this community. -- CarTick ( talk) 14:26, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi fellow editor, I have noticed this editor seems to have particular WP:POV when it comes to his edits. I have tried to reason with him and it doesn't seeem to work. Any ideas? Thanks-- Sikh-History 15:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
User:Sikh-history is unnecessarily reverting my constructive edits without any discussion and is trying to push his WP:POV, I have mentioned the reasons for my edits but he reverts them just because "he thinks" they are not correct. Winston786 ( talk) 15:56, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Just curious — why did you tag this for F3 speedy deletion? The permissions template, {{ CopyrightedFreeUseProvided}}, is a standard permissions template, and it's included in the "Free images" section of Wikipedia:Template messages/File namespace. Nyttend ( talk) 02:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Three examples of usage in The Imperial Gazetteer of India
If you object to have all states as XXX State, maybe at least you could vote on these. The latter two have misinformed oppose votes, which would maybe stop a move of these. TopoChecker ( talk) 19:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
You are just not answering the question. It's like going backwards talking to you, but I'll try again... 1) Put your reading glasses on - there is no other mention of the main teacher, master and school of kundalini yoga in this article.. although there certainly should be, right? 2) how do you reconcile this page with the karma yoga page? and 3) Being that there is a huge section of people who practice Kundalini yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan, and they all call it "Kundalini yoga", then where IS the place for it in general as encyclopedic article? And finally, although this is redundant.. 4) Exactly why should this article NOT mention Yogi Bhajan in the header if that's how Kundalini Yoga teachings are popularly, and primarily recognized - being cited from every major source from the US Government [1] to other huge yoga teachers, and all sorts of other primary sources (plus a million google pages)? Sorry that I have to treat you like a child, but since you avoid it all before, please kindly answer each question fully and properly. RogerThatOne72 ( talk) 12:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
You are not even discussing what has to be deleted, I have added all the sourced material, nothing made up or fiction, all verified facts crucial to history. Religious adjectives are already there including the section u deleted my material from. Winston786 ( talk) 19:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Which part of it is POV? and hyperlinks are there to take the reader to the page regarding related to information. Winston786 ( talk) 19:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Would you please tell me, which part of it is POV and made up and i will happily revert it myself. Winston786 ( talk) 19:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I have provided the hyperlinks, which are source in a way. Religious tags are added coz India has a multi religious history, and religion plays an important part in telling it. Winston786 ( talk) 19:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Socks are reverting back Kanatonian ( talk) 20:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Please let me know if the pic "Hey_Ram.jpg" is fixed now. The film involves the association of two major professionals Kamal Haasan and Shah Rukh Khan. There is another professional Nasruddin Shah playing Gandhi n so let me know if it can be uploaded. Is there any limit to the number of pics, a user can upload?
Imemadhu ( talk) 17:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
This guy is a series blp violator - he repeatedly adds insults to tamil politician pages. I have warned him, but he is not stopping. I dont think he is here for productive work. Please block him.-- Sodabottle ( talk) 17:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Might be a little early too tell with just two edits. But doesn't Pappupatel kind of remind you of Dangerpatel? Elockid (Alternate) ( Talk) 19:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
The effects of a war / conflict are quite varied and found most notably in the minds of the people involved in the conflict.The best measure of this can be found in cultural references to the war and the art that the war inspires.
Where is that aspect being covered in this Essay ? If I knew more i would have added a new sub topic, But I only know so much and that I have put into words.
On what basis was it decided that this was my opinion? I have given a wiki link to the song and the story which it inspired.I believe this to be a part of the effects of war and must be covered in this topic. Or you can throw works like the mahabharata or Troy (which have the main event as a war) out.
Please read the extract from the song Aye mere watan ke logon(link provided ""Aye Mere Watan Ke Logo" (ए मेरे वतन के लोगों) ("O! the people of my country!") is an Indian patriotic song written in Hindi by Pradeep and composed by C. Ramchandra commemorating Indian soldiers who died during the Sino-Indian War. It was famously performed live by Lata Mangeshkar in the presence of Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru at the Ramlila grounds in New Delhi on Republic Day (26 January) 1963, several months after the end of the war.[1] "
I do not know whether you live in India or not , but around here , the cultural aspect of this song is part of common lore. What I wrote "Culturally too . . . . expressed greater understanding and empathy in their being One nation with Hindi cinema songs like ae mere watan ke logon (Oh people of my nation) . . . ."
is reflected in the songs .Please look at the lyrics
koii sikh koI jaaT maraaThaa
koii gurakhaa koI madaraasii
sarahad pe maranevaalaa
har viir thaa bhaaratavaasii
translated thus
"
some were sikh, some were jaat and some maratha
some were Gurkha and some from madras
whoever died at the border
every such warrior was an Indian
"
ending with
"Victory to India, Victory to the Indian Armed Forces
"
If there is a problem with my statements on pak conflicts being an extended civil war , remove them. But to negate this cultural emotive response to this war is not done IMHO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chimesmonster ( talk • contribs) 06:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that the SPI report was added onto by some other editors:
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Padmalakshmisx/Archive
It looks like he is back again as
Special:Contributions/Legitimateuserqa. Clever name.
I think that he will never give up.
BollyJeff ||
talk
19:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I notice you have reverted the edit by me on ramachandra guha , calling it as ORIGINAL Thought.
I have posted etensively , using Mr Guha's Own words on his opinion on Hinduism and Hindu culture.ANd have also provided the link to the interview where he himself utters those words , which i reproduced.
I fail to understand your opposition!!
please help me understand How this is Original Thought!!
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 07:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 07:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
i do not ask you, per se, to post it , i meant , whether it is OK for the post to be made sans the "Hindu baiter " term .
RAA Ra Ra your Boat (
talk)
11:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
You should know that I can find several cites for the term as well, which i list below.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30636430/Gandhi-s-Ambedkar-Ramchandra-Guha
http://blog.offstumped.in/2010/02/28/historian-ramachandra-guha-takes-liberties-with-history/
" . . . While one could expect Guha, a known saffron baiter . . . ."
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/lunchbs-ramachandra-guha/355709/
"Ramachandra Guha, the popular historian who almost relishes controversy . . . "
Quoting verbatim
"
That's not true. The danger in your comment -- that idea that there was greatness in Indian or Hindu civilisation is like that the Ganga it is immortal, pure and beautiful. Like the Ganga that is polluted from source to sea, Hindu civilisation was polluted. Hindu civilisation practised the most degrading form of social behaviour called untouchability.
Hindu civilisation oppressed its women. In Hindu civilisation there was division of manual labour and mental labour.
"
IF you replace these words with say islam civilization , i am sure the word islamophobe can be easily ascribed to Mr. Guha . Yet the charecterization of Mr Guha as a hindu baiter is seemingly incorrect as per you ?
What ,If not this , give you proof ?
RAA Ra Ra your Boat (
talk)
11:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
in fact ,Mr guha has clearly utilized an opportunity to present himself as non partisan person and revealed a deep bias AGAINST the religion and civilization. And did you read the rest of the answer , I will re post that too here. " The greatness of Gandhi, Nehru and Rabindranath Tagore was that they became critics of their culture." Which would also mean , Mr Guha is a critic, a vehement critica at that who calls the whole civilization as Polluted.
"I would rephrase your question and say that as Hindus we were fortunate to have reformers like Gandhi, Ambedkar, Nehru and so on." Which should reveal to any lay person , a bias in favour of these personalities. " They pointed to the weaknesses and fault-lines within Hindu culture and civilisation. "
Which is once again a revert to his point of civilization being a "not great", and "polluted"
By the way, more Hindus vote for the Congress than the BJP so, obviously, they find something attractive in the Congress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chimesmonster ( talk • contribs) 12:27, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I have asked you before!! Is it OK if theterm is removed and the words he uttered are simply posted as his views on hinduism and Hindu civilization. For that at least is not My POV.
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 12:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Hey Spiff. I'm unsure about WP's policy on writing names in native scripts in a bio. User:keyan20 has reverted me on this article, and has stated "Her ancestors were tamils and that Only counts", while the subject herself has claimed to be from Kerala. I'm unsure of whether to revert him again. Please advise. Talkback on my profile plese - Amog | Talk • contribs 15:48, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
the image has been taken by my very own friend...it has been reproduced and used everywhere from orkut to facebook to every other social media page!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pranav21391 ( talk • contribs) 08:05, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Please don't vandalize other's articles. If you don't like an article discuss your points first on the discussion page. Your own contributions consist of two-liners. The wikipedia is not a telephone directory. Therefore please be modest and tolerant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.252.77.66 ( talk) 13:17, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Semi-protected it for a day, added to pending changes. Dougweller ( talk) 13:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Can you tell how talking is disruptive beahaviour???
Pran (
talk)
13:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
It is deleted instead of removing all copyright elements talk to me why??? Pran ( talk) 13:46, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
I have a feeling that User:Babyboy33 and User:Padmalakshmisx are one and the same, sockpuppet style. BollyJeff || talk 13:48, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
A month back the account Mackolinson removed something from your talk page and stopped editing after that. Today while stalking your talk page, i came across User talk:Pranavkarnik92, whose talk page says "Hello! I am Mac Kolinson,from USA". Sock?-- Sodabottle ( talk) 14:47, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
Can you tell me why you have degraded the above article to C Class? Please explain the measures that have to be take to improve the article. Please place a talkback in my talk page. R.Sivanesh ✆ 12:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
See my note on the talk page. Before I start chopping, it would be wise to get rid of what I suspect are at least a half dozen sock puppets. Drmies ( talk) 15:47, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shinas-- Sodabottle ( talk) 17:23, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
External Links: removed from Nirnayam - please remove external links from UDAY KIRANS ARTICLE ALSO ?? WHAT RU DOING SLEEPING WHEN PEOPLE ADD YOU TUBE VIDEOS IN OTHER ARTICLES)
please dont make genuine editors a constant victims of over vigilance Charmee3Apples ( talk) 20:07, 18 January 2011 (UTC)).
I added this text in Mudugar article now i am confused if the Dina Mani article discusses about this community. -- CarTick ( talk) 14:26, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi fellow editor, I have noticed this editor seems to have particular WP:POV when it comes to his edits. I have tried to reason with him and it doesn't seeem to work. Any ideas? Thanks-- Sikh-History 15:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
User:Sikh-history is unnecessarily reverting my constructive edits without any discussion and is trying to push his WP:POV, I have mentioned the reasons for my edits but he reverts them just because "he thinks" they are not correct. Winston786 ( talk) 15:56, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
Just curious — why did you tag this for F3 speedy deletion? The permissions template, {{ CopyrightedFreeUseProvided}}, is a standard permissions template, and it's included in the "Free images" section of Wikipedia:Template messages/File namespace. Nyttend ( talk) 02:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Three examples of usage in The Imperial Gazetteer of India
If you object to have all states as XXX State, maybe at least you could vote on these. The latter two have misinformed oppose votes, which would maybe stop a move of these. TopoChecker ( talk) 19:06, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
You are just not answering the question. It's like going backwards talking to you, but I'll try again... 1) Put your reading glasses on - there is no other mention of the main teacher, master and school of kundalini yoga in this article.. although there certainly should be, right? 2) how do you reconcile this page with the karma yoga page? and 3) Being that there is a huge section of people who practice Kundalini yoga as taught by Yogi Bhajan, and they all call it "Kundalini yoga", then where IS the place for it in general as encyclopedic article? And finally, although this is redundant.. 4) Exactly why should this article NOT mention Yogi Bhajan in the header if that's how Kundalini Yoga teachings are popularly, and primarily recognized - being cited from every major source from the US Government [1] to other huge yoga teachers, and all sorts of other primary sources (plus a million google pages)? Sorry that I have to treat you like a child, but since you avoid it all before, please kindly answer each question fully and properly. RogerThatOne72 ( talk) 12:45, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
You are not even discussing what has to be deleted, I have added all the sourced material, nothing made up or fiction, all verified facts crucial to history. Religious adjectives are already there including the section u deleted my material from. Winston786 ( talk) 19:26, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Which part of it is POV? and hyperlinks are there to take the reader to the page regarding related to information. Winston786 ( talk) 19:31, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Would you please tell me, which part of it is POV and made up and i will happily revert it myself. Winston786 ( talk) 19:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I have provided the hyperlinks, which are source in a way. Religious tags are added coz India has a multi religious history, and religion plays an important part in telling it. Winston786 ( talk) 19:37, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Socks are reverting back Kanatonian ( talk) 20:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Hello, Please let me know if the pic "Hey_Ram.jpg" is fixed now. The film involves the association of two major professionals Kamal Haasan and Shah Rukh Khan. There is another professional Nasruddin Shah playing Gandhi n so let me know if it can be uploaded. Is there any limit to the number of pics, a user can upload?
Imemadhu ( talk) 17:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
This guy is a series blp violator - he repeatedly adds insults to tamil politician pages. I have warned him, but he is not stopping. I dont think he is here for productive work. Please block him.-- Sodabottle ( talk) 17:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Might be a little early too tell with just two edits. But doesn't Pappupatel kind of remind you of Dangerpatel? Elockid (Alternate) ( Talk) 19:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
The effects of a war / conflict are quite varied and found most notably in the minds of the people involved in the conflict.The best measure of this can be found in cultural references to the war and the art that the war inspires.
Where is that aspect being covered in this Essay ? If I knew more i would have added a new sub topic, But I only know so much and that I have put into words.
On what basis was it decided that this was my opinion? I have given a wiki link to the song and the story which it inspired.I believe this to be a part of the effects of war and must be covered in this topic. Or you can throw works like the mahabharata or Troy (which have the main event as a war) out.
Please read the extract from the song Aye mere watan ke logon(link provided ""Aye Mere Watan Ke Logo" (ए मेरे वतन के लोगों) ("O! the people of my country!") is an Indian patriotic song written in Hindi by Pradeep and composed by C. Ramchandra commemorating Indian soldiers who died during the Sino-Indian War. It was famously performed live by Lata Mangeshkar in the presence of Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru at the Ramlila grounds in New Delhi on Republic Day (26 January) 1963, several months after the end of the war.[1] "
I do not know whether you live in India or not , but around here , the cultural aspect of this song is part of common lore. What I wrote "Culturally too . . . . expressed greater understanding and empathy in their being One nation with Hindi cinema songs like ae mere watan ke logon (Oh people of my nation) . . . ."
is reflected in the songs .Please look at the lyrics
koii sikh koI jaaT maraaThaa
koii gurakhaa koI madaraasii
sarahad pe maranevaalaa
har viir thaa bhaaratavaasii
translated thus
"
some were sikh, some were jaat and some maratha
some were Gurkha and some from madras
whoever died at the border
every such warrior was an Indian
"
ending with
"Victory to India, Victory to the Indian Armed Forces
"
If there is a problem with my statements on pak conflicts being an extended civil war , remove them. But to negate this cultural emotive response to this war is not done IMHO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chimesmonster ( talk • contribs) 06:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I noticed that the SPI report was added onto by some other editors:
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Padmalakshmisx/Archive
It looks like he is back again as
Special:Contributions/Legitimateuserqa. Clever name.
I think that he will never give up.
BollyJeff ||
talk
19:22, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I notice you have reverted the edit by me on ramachandra guha , calling it as ORIGINAL Thought.
I have posted etensively , using Mr Guha's Own words on his opinion on Hinduism and Hindu culture.ANd have also provided the link to the interview where he himself utters those words , which i reproduced.
I fail to understand your opposition!!
please help me understand How this is Original Thought!!
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 07:15, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 07:23, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
i do not ask you, per se, to post it , i meant , whether it is OK for the post to be made sans the "Hindu baiter " term .
RAA Ra Ra your Boat (
talk)
11:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
You should know that I can find several cites for the term as well, which i list below.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30636430/Gandhi-s-Ambedkar-Ramchandra-Guha
http://blog.offstumped.in/2010/02/28/historian-ramachandra-guha-takes-liberties-with-history/
" . . . While one could expect Guha, a known saffron baiter . . . ."
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/lunchbs-ramachandra-guha/355709/
"Ramachandra Guha, the popular historian who almost relishes controversy . . . "
Quoting verbatim
"
That's not true. The danger in your comment -- that idea that there was greatness in Indian or Hindu civilisation is like that the Ganga it is immortal, pure and beautiful. Like the Ganga that is polluted from source to sea, Hindu civilisation was polluted. Hindu civilisation practised the most degrading form of social behaviour called untouchability.
Hindu civilisation oppressed its women. In Hindu civilisation there was division of manual labour and mental labour.
"
IF you replace these words with say islam civilization , i am sure the word islamophobe can be easily ascribed to Mr. Guha . Yet the charecterization of Mr Guha as a hindu baiter is seemingly incorrect as per you ?
What ,If not this , give you proof ?
RAA Ra Ra your Boat (
talk)
11:29, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
in fact ,Mr guha has clearly utilized an opportunity to present himself as non partisan person and revealed a deep bias AGAINST the religion and civilization. And did you read the rest of the answer , I will re post that too here. " The greatness of Gandhi, Nehru and Rabindranath Tagore was that they became critics of their culture." Which would also mean , Mr Guha is a critic, a vehement critica at that who calls the whole civilization as Polluted.
"I would rephrase your question and say that as Hindus we were fortunate to have reformers like Gandhi, Ambedkar, Nehru and so on." Which should reveal to any lay person , a bias in favour of these personalities. " They pointed to the weaknesses and fault-lines within Hindu culture and civilisation. "
Which is once again a revert to his point of civilization being a "not great", and "polluted"
By the way, more Hindus vote for the Congress than the BJP so, obviously, they find something attractive in the Congress. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chimesmonster ( talk • contribs) 12:27, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
I have asked you before!! Is it OK if theterm is removed and the words he uttered are simply posted as his views on hinduism and Hindu civilization. For that at least is not My POV.
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 12:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
RAA Ra Ra your Boat ( talk) 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)