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Please explain why you deleted well-sourced material from Ghulam Azam's article lead. [1]. Please engage in discussion on the talk page before further deletions of referenced material.
Many thanks! Aminul802 ( talk) 22:03, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Welcome back, Soni. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:19, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I should be declining more of those that are more notability issues than formatting issues (I'm more looking on notability, actually). And, anyways, welcome back! Where have you really been? みんな空の下 ( トーク) 18:35, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Dusti *Let's talk!* 03:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, you're getting this message as you are involved in a case at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard which is currently open. Today DRN has undergone a big move resulting in individual cases on subpages as opposed to all the content on one page. This is to inform you that your case is now back on the DRN board and you will be able to 'watch' the subpage it's located on. Thanks, Cabe 6403 ( Talk• Sign) 13:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi TheOriginalSoni, how are you? Too hot in Italy....
I made this new page, she is the sister of the actress Benedicta. And she is wonderful as her sister, but I've no pictures of her, sorry.
I ask 5 minutes of your precious help to read this page if I wrote some mistake in my poor English. Thank you for your help.
Sincerely
Rei Momo ( talk) 17:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
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I didn't see that you've come back. A very very very very.........very big welcome back to you. Pratyya (Hello!) 07:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC) |
A slightly belated welcome back, as we've already interacted outside of this forum, but a welcome back nonetheless. You've been there to help me whenever I needed it (or didn't know that I needed it), and you've been a wonderful Wikipedian in general. WP is better off with you here. Thanks. the one sean 15:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello again. It is good to see the users have put a valid argument. Although it can't be proved completely whether the father granted or did not grant permission. But still since your source seems reliable I'm thinking of maybe letting this case go. However there is still one major hitch. You and other users say if the victim or the family does not want to reveal the victim's name it can't be included on Wikipedia. However till now I haven't been able to find anything that confirms this statement. If such a policy does indeed exist then you'll be able to easily provide a case. If you can provide proof that such a policy does exist then I too will favor not including the victim's name. If you do have a proof then please provide it on yours or my talk page. Thank you. TransVannian ( talk) 04:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I saw the situation on WorldTraveller101 and that you're planning to take a break and just wanted to say that I hope that you're okay. I've also sent you an off-wiki matter E-Mail. Soooo
Have a good one my IRC compiling companion. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 19:50, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I missed the conversation...I came into it about 45 minutes late. It seemed that it was over. But, what I noticed was that I could not leave a message or converse with those present. Did I miss some important instruction before signing in? It was my first visit to IRC. I think I was in the right room but no one could "hear" me. TRA! ``` Buster Seven Talk 17:14, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement is |
Cape (geography) |
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![]()
Cape of Good Hope (left) and
Cape Hangklip (right) in South Africa
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Please be bold and help improve it! |
posted by Northamerica1000 (talk) 10:06, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
I've added an opt-in section for those interested in receiving TAFI notifications on the project's main page, located here. Also, a revised notification template has been created, located at Template:TAFI weekly selections notice. Northamerica1000 (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I wanted to inform you that I'm creating a list of foreign language speaking editors, so that others find it much more easier to locate editors who speak a given language. It should be particularly useful to help deal with ESL editors and to help translate sources in other languages.
I've added your name to the list, showing you as active and willing to help with translations. I hope you don't mind this addition. Please feel free to make any changes you like to this list, as well as use this list for any purposes required. :)
Cheers,
TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 03:56, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there SONI, AL from Portugal "here",
humbled by the honour you bestowed upon me, my wikifriend. Sure thing, "list away", i will help whenever the occasion arises.
Happy weekend, keep it up -- AL ( talk) 13:54, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
I think you forgot the Bengali.-- Pratyya (Hello!) 13:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
![]() | Did you know ... that since you expressed an opinion on the GA/DYK proposal last year, we invite you to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the matter? Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Regards, Gilderien Chat| What I've done 23:03, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
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Hello OriginalSoni. At DRN you recently said that consensus is more important than verification and which would mean even correct and verifiable edits can be removed by consensus. However I have never seen this rule anywhere that consensus can even remove verifiable and significant content. Not only that the info.of the name os very significant. If such a thing does exist than it should have been written somewhere in Wikipedia policies. If it can be proved such a thing does exist then I'm ready to retract my claims completely and even ready to apologize. That is if there is such a rule anywhere on Wikipedia that a consensus can stop verifable and significant content from being added. I've asked users multiple times to give a proof for this statement however they haven't. The unverifiability of this rule or proof is the reason I'm still continuing the discussion. TransVannian ( talk) 04:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:::You say that every other article uses the names of the people involved, but Bitti Mohanty, Ajmer rape case, Jhabua nuns rape case, Jalgaon rape case, and Vachathi case don't name the rape victims. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 00:43, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Consensus does not override policy as policy is supposedly the consensus of everyone in Wikipedia compared to a smaller local consensus no? 217.34.224.89 ( talk) 10:27, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on Today's Articles For Improvement for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 02:01, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, I would love to be adopted. Evildoer187 ( talk) 07:39, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Prabash and I need some help. Can you help us? Miss Bono [zootalk] 14:31, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
AutomaticStrikeout ? 23:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
This is Ajayupai95 here. I just wanted you to know that my 6 months are up and I would like to get back on Wikipedia. Can you please help me to do so, because my account doesn't even allow me to make edits even on my Talkpage. Thanks a lot for everything that you have done! Please help me this one time as well! :)
Regards, Ajayupai95 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.210.97 ( talk) 04:19, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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I miss you around :'( Miss Bono [zootalk] 18:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Did I do this correctly? AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
...for the rescues at The Hall of Fame...and good luck at school! ``` Buster Seven Talk 21:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
|
Hi there, sorry for the delay in letting you know, but I stopped working on it. It's simply too complex once you start thinking about historic rates. And basically all the use-cases so far have been historic in one way or other. Income, revenue, the cost of something and so on is always based on a figure given at one specific time. The only use-cases I've managed to come up with so far where we don't deal with historic rates in any way shape or form is a plain listing of currencies, where the figures aren't actually used for anything else than to indicate how much 100 NOK is in USD. And as far as I can tell, the potential for using such a template wrong is just too big.
Historic rates are a real issue here; if I had 1000 USD in 1950 and want to convert to NOK, how do I do it. Do I convert the 1950-USD to 1950-NOK, and then calculate to 2013-NOK based on inflation, or do I calculate the 1950-USD to 2013-USD and then to 2013-NOK? My guess is the first option, but that'll also require historic rates _and_ historic inflation rates for all countries. Which makes everything even more complex.
In addition, there is also a question of server-load on the toolserver which would host such a tool. The CPU-cost of converting a single currency isn't that large, but multiply by a thousand (or more) and you're looking at some potential issues when it comes to hardware and capacity. There is also a cost issue when we want to get the historic rates for all currencies, and even if we get the whole shebang the service I used offered, we're still stuck with rates no earlier than 1946 (if I remember correctly).
I'll be happy to create a tool for doing conversions, but someone else has to figure out the exact use cases and the constraints it'll have to work with. The tool itself is likely to be fairly easy to create, but it does require quite a lot of source-material and a good plan before it can be created. I'll be on IRC sometime tomorrow around 8am-12am (CET) if you want to talk a little further on it. Bjelleklang - talk 20:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk)
08:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Please help me for "Akçay, İnebolu" issues. Thanks in advance... — Preceding unsigned comment added by ELocked ( talk • contribs) 21:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi TheOriginalSoni, how are you? Here summer is ending...
I made this new page now, I ask 5-6 minutes of your time to see if I wrote well and to correct my mistakes, please. It's a song I like too much.
Thanks a lot for your help
Rei Momo ( talk) 21:11, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dennis Toeppen is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis Toeppen until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)
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Please explain why you deleted well-sourced material from Ghulam Azam's article lead. [1]. Please engage in discussion on the talk page before further deletions of referenced material.
Many thanks! Aminul802 ( talk) 22:03, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Welcome back, Soni. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:19, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I should be declining more of those that are more notability issues than formatting issues (I'm more looking on notability, actually). And, anyways, welcome back! Where have you really been? みんな空の下 ( トーク) 18:35, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
Dusti *Let's talk!* 03:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there, you're getting this message as you are involved in a case at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard which is currently open. Today DRN has undergone a big move resulting in individual cases on subpages as opposed to all the content on one page. This is to inform you that your case is now back on the DRN board and you will be able to 'watch' the subpage it's located on. Thanks, Cabe 6403 ( Talk• Sign) 13:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi TheOriginalSoni, how are you? Too hot in Italy....
I made this new page, she is the sister of the actress Benedicta. And she is wonderful as her sister, but I've no pictures of her, sorry.
I ask 5 minutes of your precious help to read this page if I wrote some mistake in my poor English. Thank you for your help.
Sincerely
Rei Momo ( talk) 17:35, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
|
I didn't see that you've come back. A very very very very.........very big welcome back to you. Pratyya (Hello!) 07:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC) |
A slightly belated welcome back, as we've already interacted outside of this forum, but a welcome back nonetheless. You've been there to help me whenever I needed it (or didn't know that I needed it), and you've been a wonderful Wikipedian in general. WP is better off with you here. Thanks. the one sean 15:27, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
Hello again. It is good to see the users have put a valid argument. Although it can't be proved completely whether the father granted or did not grant permission. But still since your source seems reliable I'm thinking of maybe letting this case go. However there is still one major hitch. You and other users say if the victim or the family does not want to reveal the victim's name it can't be included on Wikipedia. However till now I haven't been able to find anything that confirms this statement. If such a policy does indeed exist then you'll be able to easily provide a case. If you can provide proof that such a policy does exist then I too will favor not including the victim's name. If you do have a proof then please provide it on yours or my talk page. Thank you. TransVannian ( talk) 04:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
I saw the situation on WorldTraveller101 and that you're planning to take a break and just wanted to say that I hope that you're okay. I've also sent you an off-wiki matter E-Mail. Soooo
Have a good one my IRC compiling companion. MM (Report findings) (Past espionage) 19:50, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
Sorry I missed the conversation...I came into it about 45 minutes late. It seemed that it was over. But, what I noticed was that I could not leave a message or converse with those present. Did I miss some important instruction before signing in? It was my first visit to IRC. I think I was in the right room but no one could "hear" me. TRA! ``` Buster Seven Talk 17:14, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement is |
Cape (geography) |
---|
![]()
Cape of Good Hope (left) and
Cape Hangklip (right) in South Africa
|
Please be bold and help improve it! |
posted by Northamerica1000 (talk) 10:06, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
I've added an opt-in section for those interested in receiving TAFI notifications on the project's main page, located here. Also, a revised notification template has been created, located at Template:TAFI weekly selections notice. Northamerica1000 (talk) 04:11, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
I wanted to inform you that I'm creating a list of foreign language speaking editors, so that others find it much more easier to locate editors who speak a given language. It should be particularly useful to help deal with ESL editors and to help translate sources in other languages.
I've added your name to the list, showing you as active and willing to help with translations. I hope you don't mind this addition. Please feel free to make any changes you like to this list, as well as use this list for any purposes required. :)
Cheers,
TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 03:56, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Hi there SONI, AL from Portugal "here",
humbled by the honour you bestowed upon me, my wikifriend. Sure thing, "list away", i will help whenever the occasion arises.
Happy weekend, keep it up -- AL ( talk) 13:54, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
I think you forgot the Bengali.-- Pratyya (Hello!) 13:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
![]() | Did you know ... that since you expressed an opinion on the GA/DYK proposal last year, we invite you to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the matter? Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Regards, Gilderien Chat| What I've done 23:03, 28 July 2013 (UTC) |
|
Hello OriginalSoni. At DRN you recently said that consensus is more important than verification and which would mean even correct and verifiable edits can be removed by consensus. However I have never seen this rule anywhere that consensus can even remove verifiable and significant content. Not only that the info.of the name os very significant. If such a thing does exist than it should have been written somewhere in Wikipedia policies. If it can be proved such a thing does exist then I'm ready to retract my claims completely and even ready to apologize. That is if there is such a rule anywhere on Wikipedia that a consensus can stop verifable and significant content from being added. I've asked users multiple times to give a proof for this statement however they haven't. The unverifiability of this rule or proof is the reason I'm still continuing the discussion. TransVannian ( talk) 04:07, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
:::You say that every other article uses the names of the people involved, but Bitti Mohanty, Ajmer rape case, Jhabua nuns rape case, Jalgaon rape case, and Vachathi case don't name the rape victims. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 00:43, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
Consensus does not override policy as policy is supposedly the consensus of everyone in Wikipedia compared to a smaller local consensus no? 217.34.224.89 ( talk) 10:27, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on Today's Articles For Improvement for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 02:01, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply. Yes, I would love to be adopted. Evildoer187 ( talk) 07:39, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
Prabash and I need some help. Can you help us? Miss Bono [zootalk] 14:31, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
AutomaticStrikeout ? 23:34, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi,
This is Ajayupai95 here. I just wanted you to know that my 6 months are up and I would like to get back on Wikipedia. Can you please help me to do so, because my account doesn't even allow me to make edits even on my Talkpage. Thanks a lot for everything that you have done! Please help me this one time as well! :)
Regards, Ajayupai95 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.210.97 ( talk) 04:19, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
![]() | Hello! Due to a security update to the wiki software, older versions of STiki are no longer functional. You've been identified as a user of STiki, and are kindly asked to upgrade to the current version at Wikipedia:STiki#Download before continuing with use of the tool. Continuing to use older versions will be detrimental to the STiki project. Please see Wikipedia talk:STiki#Errors for a discussion of this issue or to respond to this message. Thank you! 04:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC) |
I miss you around :'( Miss Bono [zootalk] 18:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Did I do this correctly? AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
...for the rescues at The Hall of Fame...and good luck at school! ``` Buster Seven Talk 21:10, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
|
Hi there, sorry for the delay in letting you know, but I stopped working on it. It's simply too complex once you start thinking about historic rates. And basically all the use-cases so far have been historic in one way or other. Income, revenue, the cost of something and so on is always based on a figure given at one specific time. The only use-cases I've managed to come up with so far where we don't deal with historic rates in any way shape or form is a plain listing of currencies, where the figures aren't actually used for anything else than to indicate how much 100 NOK is in USD. And as far as I can tell, the potential for using such a template wrong is just too big.
Historic rates are a real issue here; if I had 1000 USD in 1950 and want to convert to NOK, how do I do it. Do I convert the 1950-USD to 1950-NOK, and then calculate to 2013-NOK based on inflation, or do I calculate the 1950-USD to 2013-USD and then to 2013-NOK? My guess is the first option, but that'll also require historic rates _and_ historic inflation rates for all countries. Which makes everything even more complex.
In addition, there is also a question of server-load on the toolserver which would host such a tool. The CPU-cost of converting a single currency isn't that large, but multiply by a thousand (or more) and you're looking at some potential issues when it comes to hardware and capacity. There is also a cost issue when we want to get the historic rates for all currencies, and even if we get the whole shebang the service I used offered, we're still stuck with rates no earlier than 1946 (if I remember correctly).
I'll be happy to create a tool for doing conversions, but someone else has to figure out the exact use cases and the constraints it'll have to work with. The tool itself is likely to be fairly easy to create, but it does require quite a lot of source-material and a good plan before it can be created. I'll be on IRC sometime tomorrow around 8am-12am (CET) if you want to talk a little further on it. Bjelleklang - talk 20:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC Reviewer permission.
Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (
talk)
08:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Please help me for "Akçay, İnebolu" issues. Thanks in advance... — Preceding unsigned comment added by ELocked ( talk • contribs) 21:04, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi TheOriginalSoni, how are you? Here summer is ending...
I made this new page now, I ask 5-6 minutes of your time to see if I wrote well and to correct my mistakes, please. It's a song I like too much.
Thanks a lot for your help
Rei Momo ( talk) 21:11, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dennis Toeppen is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis Toeppen until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. CorporateM ( Talk) 14:14, 17 September 2013 (UTC)