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talk)
07:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Please don't do this again. Ironically given your edit summary, it was clearly both a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:POINT. You might also want to read WP:VERIFY. Dougweller ( talk) 08:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Please do not
attack other editors, as you did at
Talk:Evolution as fact and theory. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please
stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.
Dougweller (
talk)
09:50, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Please stop your
disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for
inappropriate discussion, as you did at
Talk:Evolution as fact and theory, you may be
blocked from editing. —
raeky
t
00:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Please do not remove comments from other users on an article talk page, as you did here. Please also read WP:NOTFORUM. If you have specific suggestions for the article, please pick one suggestion, and very briefly list it in a new section on the talk page. Your posts so far are way, way too long, and littered with attacks and personal comments which are entirely unnecessary. Please keep further posts to a few sentences, and keep them very focused on article improvement. Also, please provide sources for any change you wish to propose. Thank you. — Jess· Δ ♥ 23:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
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It looks like I am currently the victim of abuse from two editors engaging in "drama editing," an edit war (they are simply insulting me and then erasing my edits on a Talk section located at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evolution_as_fact_and_theory page), and are just trolling and baiting. I would like this to stop and have told them each. Their names aer Mann_jess and Raeky. You can see what they have done to my User Talk page, even. I would simply like my four suggestions to improve that Evolutionist to be considered, rather than putting up with trolls who can edit my words so easily. Any suggestions? And, can you take action against those folks to prevent them from doing this to people? Thank you. Snootcher ( talk) 03:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Drmies, I do not know who you are. You clearly have read the insults, trolling, baiting, and hostility that was done to me on both my User Talk page and the Evolution: Fact and Theory talk page, right? I am very surprised to read what you have just written to me. I have insulted no one - the Edit History is right there. I cannot believe this is how things are done at Wikipedia. This is amazing. Please stop allowing attacks against me, and please stop trying to pin stuff on me, for Heaven's sake. I did nothing to warrant this abuse. Please... read the insults on my User Talk page. I did nothing like that. And again, who are you? Snootcher ( talk) 04:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Drmies, I was being treated hostily, so I reverted their edits due to lack of etiquette and proper behavior. They kept closing and deleting my material. That is what I thought an edit war was - where someone continues to censor you, especially in a hostile fashion. If you honestly think Raeky and Mann_jess were communicating with me properly, and that somehow through their insults, trolling, baiting, and sarcasm that I was supposed to care about what they had to say to me... then I think your judgement is poor. But since you have the buttons, and Raeky and Mann_jess have you ear, I suppose there can still be a public record of what took place here these past couple of days. Seriously, none of this was handled appropriately. Read my frickin' User Talk page - look what they did to it. I can't believe you just told me to do anything besides help get rid of those creeps from the community. This is clearly an act of censorship and an act of indecency. Supporting Raeky and Mann_jess after all that... You gotta be kidding me. My appeal request is below. I'd like someone besides you to review it. I am still shocked that you would support those two abusers. Snootcher ( talk) 04:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I just think that you are not qualified for this position, Drmies. What you have written to me only emboldens the insulting folks that use this website like Raeky and Mann_jess. They are even poking fun at this conversation here right now, in fact. You are probably friends with them at some level. You have not listened to my pleas for fair treatment, as I have done nothing to warrant this behavior, nor have I engaged in the behavior that Raeky and Mann_jess have. Look at my User Talk page. How can you support that? You have made the hostility worse because you simply refuse to accept that it is happening. Wikipedia has had problems with its credibility for some time now, and it continues. I am sorry that you are not an effective administrator. It is not good for business.
This is your final warning regarding
WP:NOTFORUM, and
WP:PA. You're being increasingly hostile, and refusing to take the advice of a swath of independent editors. Please stop editing in this way immediately, and take a breather. When you come back, ask for help using the {{helpme}}
template, or consider
WP:Adoption. If this behavior continues, it's going to be escalated, and sanctions are likely. Please stop and seek help from others. —
Jess·
Δ
♥
03:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at
Evolution as fact and theory, you may be
blocked from editing without further notice. Second time you've deleted other people's comments
[1], this is your FINAL warning. —
raeky
t
03:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you use talk pages for
inappropriate discussions, as you did at
Evolution as fact and theory, you may be
blocked from editing without further notice. This also is your FINAL warning of not complying with talk page policies. —
raeky
t
03:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
______________________________
Due to your poor behavior on Wikipedia, you have been reported to ANI. This is your notice. Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
______________________________
Drmies,
You can see that I have done NOTHING like what Raeky and Mann_jess have done here. You have got to be able to see what everyone else can. Please tell me this is not some kind of joke, as I am a bit perplexed. This is all one-sided abuse here. Clearly. When you say, "Seriously, enough is enough," I am assuming that you understand my complaint here. Please affirm that you do! Snootcher ( talk) 04:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I removed your warning on User:Raeky and User:Mann jess as that is the wrong place to put them. You have not properly notified them until you put the notice on User talk:Raeky and User talk:Mann jess. Jim1138 ( talk) 04:12, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I have indeed put them on both their pages. Please check them out. Snootcher ( talk) 04:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
They have both removed the Notices. Please view their Edit History. I did what was required. Thank you. Snootcher ( talk) 04:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Drmies ( talk) 04:25, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Snootcher ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I would like to suggest improvements to the Talk page of Evolution: Fact and Theory. Why am I being barred from making those suggestions? Snootcher ( talk) 04:26, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I've reviewed your contributions, and this block was clearly justified. In fact, the duration was very lenient given that you replied to polite responses to your posts with rude comments and accusations of bad faith. As these have continued since the block was imposed, I'm extending its duration to indefinite. Please note that this is not a permanent block, but rather a block which will remain in place until you can demonstrate that you'll edit productively and treat other editors respectfully. Nick-D ( talk) 06:19, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
This is not a valid unblock-reason. Be advised that abusing the unblock-template with spurious request will eventually get this page blocked as well. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:30, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I tried to amend the wording to that appeal, but it won't let me. I need to know why these hostile people are able to censor my words, when it is clear that all I want to do is have someone introduce opposing viewpoints to the main thesis of this article at Evolution: Fact and Theory. In no way did I treat anyone like Raeky and Mann_jess did. They went over the top. This can be observed at the two places I linked for you. Reverse this, as I did nothing to deserve such hostile treatment. Snootcher ( talk) 04:39, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Like I said, I did that and it didn't work. Anyway, I don't understand why someone as abusive as Raeky or Mann_jess can delete my words or even close my subsection, and why I cannot undo that. This is all very one-sided, so reprimanding me makes me question your judgement. I provided four suggestions to improve the article, and they were deleted/closed/whatever. I undid that because there was no good reason to do so, and it was all done very inappropriately from two abusive users. I know you read what they have said and done. I did nothing like that. I am asking for someone to review the blocking of my account because this clearly makes no sense. I did not bring what Raeky and Mann_jess did to me upon myself. I did not treat them as they treated me. Why are you allowing them to abuse me? This is why I am asking for an appeal and for you to monitor that talk page. I want to make four Suggestions to Improve This Article without being abused. That is not too much to ask, and hence the reason why I reported the infractions. Please deal with Raeky and Mann_jess so that they do not treat people like this. Look at my User Talk page for Heaven's sake. After someone reviews this blocking, then I guess we are done here. Do this right, please. I can't believe you let people like Raeky and Mann_jess do that to people. Snootcher ( talk) 04:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Snootcher ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Part of my Unblock Appeal was that my User Talk page be cleared of the insulting remarks of Raeky and Mann_jess and also that I am instructed on how to block them from contacting me. Go ahead with your poor judgement decision; I am only requesting here that you carry out the closing of this case with those requests in mind. Snootcher ( talk) 06:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not an unblock request; also WP:NOTTHEM. You can remove comments from your talk page however you wish; what you cannot do is remove declined unblock requests. Anything else you can remove as you see fit. You can't "block" anybody from commenting on your page; you can state that you do not wish for them to post on your page, however. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:12, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Snootcher, I've given you genuinely helpful advice, and worded it as nicely as I can. However, since it's clear you aren't interested in having me post further, I don't plan to return to your talk page. You're more than welcome to clear all the comments on your talk page if you wish, including mine. Just hit "edit", and then remove anything you want. All you have to do is leave the current block notice visible. Good luck. — Jess· Δ ♥ 15:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have told you that you can remove virtually anything from your talk page. It's assumed that when you remove material that you've read it. Although archiving (see Help:Archiving a talk page is preferred, you can just delete it. There are a few things that can't be removed, see WP:REMOVED. Dougweller ( talk) 05:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. The following links will help you begin editing on Wikipedia:
The Wikipedia tutorial is a good place to start learning about Wikipedia. If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. By the way, you can sign your name on Talk and discussion pages using four tildes, like this: ~~~~ (the software will replace them with your signature and the date). Again, welcome!
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to
talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should
sign your posts by typing four
tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You could also click on the signature button
or
located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you. --
SineBot (
talk)
07:18, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Please don't do this again. Ironically given your edit summary, it was clearly both a violation of WP:NPOV and WP:POINT. You might also want to read WP:VERIFY. Dougweller ( talk) 08:58, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Please do not
attack other editors, as you did at
Talk:Evolution as fact and theory. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please
stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.
Dougweller (
talk)
09:50, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Please stop your
disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for
inappropriate discussion, as you did at
Talk:Evolution as fact and theory, you may be
blocked from editing. —
raeky
t
00:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Please do not remove comments from other users on an article talk page, as you did here. Please also read WP:NOTFORUM. If you have specific suggestions for the article, please pick one suggestion, and very briefly list it in a new section on the talk page. Your posts so far are way, way too long, and littered with attacks and personal comments which are entirely unnecessary. Please keep further posts to a few sentences, and keep them very focused on article improvement. Also, please provide sources for any change you wish to propose. Thank you. — Jess· Δ ♥ 23:58, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
![]() | This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
It looks like I am currently the victim of abuse from two editors engaging in "drama editing," an edit war (they are simply insulting me and then erasing my edits on a Talk section located at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evolution_as_fact_and_theory page), and are just trolling and baiting. I would like this to stop and have told them each. Their names aer Mann_jess and Raeky. You can see what they have done to my User Talk page, even. I would simply like my four suggestions to improve that Evolutionist to be considered, rather than putting up with trolls who can edit my words so easily. Any suggestions? And, can you take action against those folks to prevent them from doing this to people? Thank you. Snootcher ( talk) 03:28, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Drmies, I do not know who you are. You clearly have read the insults, trolling, baiting, and hostility that was done to me on both my User Talk page and the Evolution: Fact and Theory talk page, right? I am very surprised to read what you have just written to me. I have insulted no one - the Edit History is right there. I cannot believe this is how things are done at Wikipedia. This is amazing. Please stop allowing attacks against me, and please stop trying to pin stuff on me, for Heaven's sake. I did nothing to warrant this abuse. Please... read the insults on my User Talk page. I did nothing like that. And again, who are you? Snootcher ( talk) 04:43, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Drmies, I was being treated hostily, so I reverted their edits due to lack of etiquette and proper behavior. They kept closing and deleting my material. That is what I thought an edit war was - where someone continues to censor you, especially in a hostile fashion. If you honestly think Raeky and Mann_jess were communicating with me properly, and that somehow through their insults, trolling, baiting, and sarcasm that I was supposed to care about what they had to say to me... then I think your judgement is poor. But since you have the buttons, and Raeky and Mann_jess have you ear, I suppose there can still be a public record of what took place here these past couple of days. Seriously, none of this was handled appropriately. Read my frickin' User Talk page - look what they did to it. I can't believe you just told me to do anything besides help get rid of those creeps from the community. This is clearly an act of censorship and an act of indecency. Supporting Raeky and Mann_jess after all that... You gotta be kidding me. My appeal request is below. I'd like someone besides you to review it. I am still shocked that you would support those two abusers. Snootcher ( talk) 04:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I just think that you are not qualified for this position, Drmies. What you have written to me only emboldens the insulting folks that use this website like Raeky and Mann_jess. They are even poking fun at this conversation here right now, in fact. You are probably friends with them at some level. You have not listened to my pleas for fair treatment, as I have done nothing to warrant this behavior, nor have I engaged in the behavior that Raeky and Mann_jess have. Look at my User Talk page. How can you support that? You have made the hostility worse because you simply refuse to accept that it is happening. Wikipedia has had problems with its credibility for some time now, and it continues. I am sorry that you are not an effective administrator. It is not good for business.
This is your final warning regarding
WP:NOTFORUM, and
WP:PA. You're being increasingly hostile, and refusing to take the advice of a swath of independent editors. Please stop editing in this way immediately, and take a breather. When you come back, ask for help using the {{helpme}}
template, or consider
WP:Adoption. If this behavior continues, it's going to be escalated, and sanctions are likely. Please stop and seek help from others. —
Jess·
Δ
♥
03:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at
Evolution as fact and theory, you may be
blocked from editing without further notice. Second time you've deleted other people's comments
[1], this is your FINAL warning. —
raeky
t
03:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
This is your last warning. The next time you use talk pages for
inappropriate discussions, as you did at
Evolution as fact and theory, you may be
blocked from editing without further notice. This also is your FINAL warning of not complying with talk page policies. —
raeky
t
03:47, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
______________________________
Due to your poor behavior on Wikipedia, you have been reported to ANI. This is your notice. Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
______________________________
Drmies,
You can see that I have done NOTHING like what Raeky and Mann_jess have done here. You have got to be able to see what everyone else can. Please tell me this is not some kind of joke, as I am a bit perplexed. This is all one-sided abuse here. Clearly. When you say, "Seriously, enough is enough," I am assuming that you understand my complaint here. Please affirm that you do! Snootcher ( talk) 04:46, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I removed your warning on User:Raeky and User:Mann jess as that is the wrong place to put them. You have not properly notified them until you put the notice on User talk:Raeky and User talk:Mann jess. Jim1138 ( talk) 04:12, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I have indeed put them on both their pages. Please check them out. Snootcher ( talk) 04:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
They have both removed the Notices. Please view their Edit History. I did what was required. Thank you. Snootcher ( talk) 04:23, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
{{
unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
, but you should read the
guide to appealing blocks first.During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Drmies ( talk) 04:25, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Snootcher ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I would like to suggest improvements to the Talk page of Evolution: Fact and Theory. Why am I being barred from making those suggestions? Snootcher ( talk) 04:26, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I've reviewed your contributions, and this block was clearly justified. In fact, the duration was very lenient given that you replied to polite responses to your posts with rude comments and accusations of bad faith. As these have continued since the block was imposed, I'm extending its duration to indefinite. Please note that this is not a permanent block, but rather a block which will remain in place until you can demonstrate that you'll edit productively and treat other editors respectfully. Nick-D ( talk) 06:19, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
This is not a valid unblock-reason. Be advised that abusing the unblock-template with spurious request will eventually get this page blocked as well. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:30, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I tried to amend the wording to that appeal, but it won't let me. I need to know why these hostile people are able to censor my words, when it is clear that all I want to do is have someone introduce opposing viewpoints to the main thesis of this article at Evolution: Fact and Theory. In no way did I treat anyone like Raeky and Mann_jess did. They went over the top. This can be observed at the two places I linked for you. Reverse this, as I did nothing to deserve such hostile treatment. Snootcher ( talk) 04:39, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Like I said, I did that and it didn't work. Anyway, I don't understand why someone as abusive as Raeky or Mann_jess can delete my words or even close my subsection, and why I cannot undo that. This is all very one-sided, so reprimanding me makes me question your judgement. I provided four suggestions to improve the article, and they were deleted/closed/whatever. I undid that because there was no good reason to do so, and it was all done very inappropriately from two abusive users. I know you read what they have said and done. I did nothing like that. I am asking for someone to review the blocking of my account because this clearly makes no sense. I did not bring what Raeky and Mann_jess did to me upon myself. I did not treat them as they treated me. Why are you allowing them to abuse me? This is why I am asking for an appeal and for you to monitor that talk page. I want to make four Suggestions to Improve This Article without being abused. That is not too much to ask, and hence the reason why I reported the infractions. Please deal with Raeky and Mann_jess so that they do not treat people like this. Look at my User Talk page for Heaven's sake. After someone reviews this blocking, then I guess we are done here. Do this right, please. I can't believe you let people like Raeky and Mann_jess do that to people. Snootcher ( talk) 04:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Snootcher ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
Part of my Unblock Appeal was that my User Talk page be cleared of the insulting remarks of Raeky and Mann_jess and also that I am instructed on how to block them from contacting me. Go ahead with your poor judgement decision; I am only requesting here that you carry out the closing of this case with those requests in mind. Snootcher ( talk) 06:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Not an unblock request; also WP:NOTTHEM. You can remove comments from your talk page however you wish; what you cannot do is remove declined unblock requests. Anything else you can remove as you see fit. You can't "block" anybody from commenting on your page; you can state that you do not wish for them to post on your page, however. - The Bushranger One ping only 07:12, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Snootcher, I've given you genuinely helpful advice, and worded it as nicely as I can. However, since it's clear you aren't interested in having me post further, I don't plan to return to your talk page. You're more than welcome to clear all the comments on your talk page if you wish, including mine. Just hit "edit", and then remove anything you want. All you have to do is leave the current block notice visible. Good luck. — Jess· Δ ♥ 15:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have told you that you can remove virtually anything from your talk page. It's assumed that when you remove material that you've read it. Although archiving (see Help:Archiving a talk page is preferred, you can just delete it. There are a few things that can't be removed, see WP:REMOVED. Dougweller ( talk) 05:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)