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I've stubbed the article -- the text referenced Justice Hugo Black's opinion, which, while not a copyright violation as quotes were used, is not a good basis for an original article. It's such a narrow ruling that I'm not sure it's feasible as much more than a stub at best.
A decent summary needs to be written for this case. -- ArglebargleIV ( talk) 18:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
The article was only to be underconstruction, but was not finished. The stubbing is a good action until the final version is written. The article itself was linked with references to the Justices. The stub is fine, but I might need to reference it in an upcoming case. I think that it has useful potential, and is something to look into further, albeit it is still a distant cousin of the more major historical landmarks of desegregation. The references should have been left attached rather than deleted for the purposes of notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slm1202000@yahoo.com ( talk • contribs)
References can be restored (by you, even), but the text shouldn't be. The text has to be original, but not an original synthesis of existing material. -- ArglebargleIV ( talk) 03:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
It signs your name whether you sign off or not, which is good for all involved. I do not like having this conversation over editing wars, but you need to go slower on the quick-draw. I just read your user talk, and your page is filled with comments about speediness. I left a memo, and I want to reinterate that stub was less than 12 hours old. It was good enough to be left for me to finish later and it was not without its references. I am HIGHLY offended by the suggestion of original synthesis, as my opinions had not crept into something that was obviously NOT your material or expertise. Please check the subject matter again. Oh, that's right. You deleted it... P.S. You also jumped to address my comments on your page so quickly, I also had a moment where I had to clean up the editing from the two separate pages. It would be easier to contribute anything if you did not act so quickly. This is not a blog, so please stay off the site. Drop the issue.
(First response) :
Okay, let's get a few things straight. (Not sure which of your articles you're talking about now, the Coit v. Green one or the Montgomery County one, I'll cover both.)
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I don't plan to "stay off the site" or "drop the issue", when the issue is article quality. It might help if you created a
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03:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
ArglebargeIV: I think that you are simply chosing to edit my work because I complained. I do not want you being annoyed, but I do not want you annoying me. I am glad that the history is there, but both Coit v. Green and I presume Montgomery articles are there for the purposes of being UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I specifically listed where I got information. If you want to continue this, we can get dispute resolution. Correcting your commentary may be cute, but I seriously doubt your ability to avoid creeping back in to re-edit your commentary. I am glad that you admitted part of what you wrote was wrong. However, that does not mean you need to go on a vendetta. As far as About.com, I do not know what you are talking about. If you have not noticed those subject matters, which may not be your strong suit, are dry. There are specific clear cut ways of saying what I did. It was not original research, which is the point behind Wikipedia's rules. All the information that I use is PUBLIC RECORD--not an article created. It is open to be reused, as I in no way suggest that I wrote the US Supreme Court's Opinion, especially concerning Coit v. Green. You need to read the GFDL. The other article was most definitely under construction. This is my User talk, and I can ask you to stop. As far as editing, you have once again been so fast to become tacky, I have to again correct what you are editing to merge the two.
ArglebargeIV: On the personal scale, I think that you need to go back and reread the section on where you put NOW CORRECTED as far as where you were wrong. I have other complaints, too. You were rude on the comments. If you had cut it and I had to deal with rewriting it, I would not have wasted this time speaking to someone who has not done even a small number of hours researching the merits of the cases you just deleted. As far as your sectioning, I simply placed my complaint with my name under a similar complaint. I thought your grouping was organizational, not next-in-line. I will surely keep it in mind if that occurs again, although I fully intend that it will not. Given the large number of complaints about your cutting processes, maybe you could research it a little better. Apparently, I am not the only one to see that you really kinda get out there fast, especially since you know where the history is. You could have easily foreseen that was in fact newly formed and still under construction... As far as rewriting what you wrote in the aforementioned spots, I do not intend to edit those. I will, however, correct your input on the other places, which leads me to clear up the other problem. For the record, I do not think that stubbing only primary source material is appropriate or what Wikipedia wanted. There is nothing wrong with legal cases being denoted here, and I find it offensive that you actually removed EVERY reference to the IRS from Coit v. Green. You may not be aware of it, but that is what the case was about! That was not to be a copy-cat. It was to be ACCURATE! If you are going to edit, do so nicely, tactfully, and appropriately. Read the material. Know what you are turning the article into. As far as the quotations and references go, no one in the public is served by your deletions of them. You need to go back and read what Wikipedia states about original research not being allowed, which is very important for a law case that a common man's opinion and rewrite has no place, or for original synthesis, which speaks directly to putting in your original research, which is the very thing that you did. IRS belongs in that article on Coit v. Green. It was not the landmark case on Private v. Public school debate. You may not live in the U.S. but here in America, we still have private academies. If you check the U.S. Dept. of Ed., those tend to strongly be based upon a higher influx of the Caucasian race than the public school counterparts, especially in the South. The real case laws that govern the private v. public school debate come about later than this earlier case, and as such, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that segregation without discrimination is NOT illegal. Check your facts before you rewrite court cases. There are court dockets available on the web. It was not a straight copy, so much as me rewriting what amounted to hours of research to uncover. I also spent hours working on the now deleted grammer and style... To have to put up with caterwauling because you cannot admit you were wrong is annoying.
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I'm sorry, I'm using the Huggle anti-vandalism tool, and I'll admit I'm new at it. However, in order for me fully help you with your problem, you're going to need to tell me which article it is I made the mistake on. Thanks. - Adun12 ( talk) 05:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
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Regards your recent edits to Hep C, "a 2008 article in the NEJM" isn't an accurate source. Can you find the article on pubmed or google scholar? It can then be integrated using citation templates. If you get a PMID number from pubmed, all you need to do is plug the number into {{ cite pmid}} (using this markup - <ref>{{cite pmid | 1234567 }}</ref>) and you will get a footnote pointing to the citation. As is, I am very tempted to remove the information per WP:PROVEIT, "that article from that journal" being a pet peeve of mine :) WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 12:29, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
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Welcome!
Hello, Slm1202000@yahoo.com, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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ArglebargleIV (
talk)
03:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I've stubbed the article -- the text referenced Justice Hugo Black's opinion, which, while not a copyright violation as quotes were used, is not a good basis for an original article. It's such a narrow ruling that I'm not sure it's feasible as much more than a stub at best.
A decent summary needs to be written for this case. -- ArglebargleIV ( talk) 18:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
The article was only to be underconstruction, but was not finished. The stubbing is a good action until the final version is written. The article itself was linked with references to the Justices. The stub is fine, but I might need to reference it in an upcoming case. I think that it has useful potential, and is something to look into further, albeit it is still a distant cousin of the more major historical landmarks of desegregation. The references should have been left attached rather than deleted for the purposes of notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slm1202000@yahoo.com ( talk • contribs)
References can be restored (by you, even), but the text shouldn't be. The text has to be original, but not an original synthesis of existing material. -- ArglebargleIV ( talk) 03:26, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
It signs your name whether you sign off or not, which is good for all involved. I do not like having this conversation over editing wars, but you need to go slower on the quick-draw. I just read your user talk, and your page is filled with comments about speediness. I left a memo, and I want to reinterate that stub was less than 12 hours old. It was good enough to be left for me to finish later and it was not without its references. I am HIGHLY offended by the suggestion of original synthesis, as my opinions had not crept into something that was obviously NOT your material or expertise. Please check the subject matter again. Oh, that's right. You deleted it... P.S. You also jumped to address my comments on your page so quickly, I also had a moment where I had to clean up the editing from the two separate pages. It would be easier to contribute anything if you did not act so quickly. This is not a blog, so please stay off the site. Drop the issue.
(First response) :
Okay, let's get a few things straight. (Not sure which of your articles you're talking about now, the Coit v. Green one or the Montgomery County one, I'll cover both.)
(Second response) :
I don't plan to "stay off the site" or "drop the issue", when the issue is article quality. It might help if you created a
personal sandbox to create an article in, and try not to go so heavy on the unmarked quotes. --
ArglebargleIV (
talk)
03:48, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
ArglebargeIV: I think that you are simply chosing to edit my work because I complained. I do not want you being annoyed, but I do not want you annoying me. I am glad that the history is there, but both Coit v. Green and I presume Montgomery articles are there for the purposes of being UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I specifically listed where I got information. If you want to continue this, we can get dispute resolution. Correcting your commentary may be cute, but I seriously doubt your ability to avoid creeping back in to re-edit your commentary. I am glad that you admitted part of what you wrote was wrong. However, that does not mean you need to go on a vendetta. As far as About.com, I do not know what you are talking about. If you have not noticed those subject matters, which may not be your strong suit, are dry. There are specific clear cut ways of saying what I did. It was not original research, which is the point behind Wikipedia's rules. All the information that I use is PUBLIC RECORD--not an article created. It is open to be reused, as I in no way suggest that I wrote the US Supreme Court's Opinion, especially concerning Coit v. Green. You need to read the GFDL. The other article was most definitely under construction. This is my User talk, and I can ask you to stop. As far as editing, you have once again been so fast to become tacky, I have to again correct what you are editing to merge the two.
ArglebargeIV: On the personal scale, I think that you need to go back and reread the section on where you put NOW CORRECTED as far as where you were wrong. I have other complaints, too. You were rude on the comments. If you had cut it and I had to deal with rewriting it, I would not have wasted this time speaking to someone who has not done even a small number of hours researching the merits of the cases you just deleted. As far as your sectioning, I simply placed my complaint with my name under a similar complaint. I thought your grouping was organizational, not next-in-line. I will surely keep it in mind if that occurs again, although I fully intend that it will not. Given the large number of complaints about your cutting processes, maybe you could research it a little better. Apparently, I am not the only one to see that you really kinda get out there fast, especially since you know where the history is. You could have easily foreseen that was in fact newly formed and still under construction... As far as rewriting what you wrote in the aforementioned spots, I do not intend to edit those. I will, however, correct your input on the other places, which leads me to clear up the other problem. For the record, I do not think that stubbing only primary source material is appropriate or what Wikipedia wanted. There is nothing wrong with legal cases being denoted here, and I find it offensive that you actually removed EVERY reference to the IRS from Coit v. Green. You may not be aware of it, but that is what the case was about! That was not to be a copy-cat. It was to be ACCURATE! If you are going to edit, do so nicely, tactfully, and appropriately. Read the material. Know what you are turning the article into. As far as the quotations and references go, no one in the public is served by your deletions of them. You need to go back and read what Wikipedia states about original research not being allowed, which is very important for a law case that a common man's opinion and rewrite has no place, or for original synthesis, which speaks directly to putting in your original research, which is the very thing that you did. IRS belongs in that article on Coit v. Green. It was not the landmark case on Private v. Public school debate. You may not live in the U.S. but here in America, we still have private academies. If you check the U.S. Dept. of Ed., those tend to strongly be based upon a higher influx of the Caucasian race than the public school counterparts, especially in the South. The real case laws that govern the private v. public school debate come about later than this earlier case, and as such, the U.S. Supreme Court decided that segregation without discrimination is NOT illegal. Check your facts before you rewrite court cases. There are court dockets available on the web. It was not a straight copy, so much as me rewriting what amounted to hours of research to uncover. I also spent hours working on the now deleted grammer and style... To have to put up with caterwauling because you cannot admit you were wrong is annoying.
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Adun12 (
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05:22, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I'm using the Huggle anti-vandalism tool, and I'll admit I'm new at it. However, in order for me fully help you with your problem, you're going to need to tell me which article it is I made the mistake on. Thanks. - Adun12 ( talk) 05:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Siemaszko.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the file description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.
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Thank you for uploading File:Siemaszko.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.
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Regards your recent edits to Hep C, "a 2008 article in the NEJM" isn't an accurate source. Can you find the article on pubmed or google scholar? It can then be integrated using citation templates. If you get a PMID number from pubmed, all you need to do is plug the number into {{ cite pmid}} (using this markup - <ref>{{cite pmid | 1234567 }}</ref>) and you will get a footnote pointing to the citation. As is, I am very tempted to remove the information per WP:PROVEIT, "that article from that journal" being a pet peeve of mine :) WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 12:29, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
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