FAC/EmRata | |
Sorry, didn't mean to mansplain. I hope we won't get to where you'll never speak to me again! GRuban ( talk) 20:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC) |
FYI. 166.176.59.66 ( talk) 07:01, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Diplomacy | |
For calling me out with this edit, but doing so diplomatically and with WP:AGF in mind. Also, for generally being an awesome contributor to our community, and I hope the long conversations about creating more receptive places within our community pan out. Sadads ( talk) 13:31, 4 April 2016 (UTC) |
Just curious, if you can close one or two sections, why can't you close the whole thing down? I know you've participated, but not in such as way that you'd be considered 'involved'. Plus there is an consensus at the bottom for closure. (also, why haven't any other admins shut this down yet?) Anyways, Thanks - theWOLFchild 03:19, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, User:Wikid77 here. I was on wikibreak for about 2 years and returned to see cite templates stuck on red-error messages for dates (all years before AD 100?) in 18,000 pages, and now flagging the language " Ancient Greek" as a check-language issue. I think more RfCs are needed to confirm the users want easier cites, with fewer restrictions, not more errors. Example:
{{
cite book}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (
link)Meanwhile, the French WP cite templates (see: fr:Template:Ouvrage) for 5 years have allowed title-notes as parameter "description=" (displayed after "titre=" title) and now autofix dates, without error msgs, such as changing American "June 7, 2015" into typical French "7 juin 2015" no complaints. I was planning to create a separate RfC page for each cite problem (date error, language, title description, etc.). However, should I combine all major wp:CS1 cite topics into a single RfC page or split as multiple RfCs? No hurry, I've been planning this for months. - Wikid77 ( talk) 12:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sarah, thought I would move this off the ANI page to your talk page as it was just you and me discussing this and it was kind of in the middle of a tangentially related discussion. Feel free to ping anyone else though whom you think would want to join in.
Women comprise between 8.5 and 16.1 percent of editors on the English Wikipedia.[1] This means that most articles are written by men, as are most of the content policies, including the notability and referencing policies. Those policies in turn determine which articles about women can be hosted, and frame many of the ways in which they are written.
Hi Sarah. I am writing something about this as we speak, and was looking for Pauline references to Jesus. Sources for the historicity of Jesus was a good start, and quite useful. But nowhere can I find a reference to 1 Corinthians 15:4 'he hath been raised on the third day according to the scriptures'. This is pretty famous because I am sure it is the only reference by Paul to the resurrection. I am intrigued by why it is not in an article about the historicity of Jesus. I expect because, if we regard resurrection as impossible, it cannot possibly be historical. But then later in that article it says 'Elements whose historical authenticity is disputed include the two accounts of the Nativity of Jesus, the miraculous events including the resurrection, and certain details about the crucifixion', so why isn't the well-known reference in Corinthians 15:4 included with a caveat that the historicity of the resurrection is disputed (as it is, by many)? And of course if the resurrection did occur, it would surely be 'historical'. But I won't touch the article in case it sparks off some nuclear catastrophe. Peter Damian ( talk) 19:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
There have been reverts. Extend PC or upgrade to semi? -- George Ho ( talk) 00:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi... I've submitted evidence to the Wikicology ArbCom case in which I have quoted you from ANI because I am commenting on Wikicology's response. I thought I should let you know as a courtesy. Cheers. EdChem ( talk) 14:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Books & Bytes
Issue 16, February-March 2016
by
The Interior (
talk ·
contribs),
UY Scuti (
talk ·
contribs)
The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 15:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
I see no benefit in posting it there and stirring the pot further, but I can assure you that everyone who is or ever has been on arbcom is well aware of the effects of being the target of persistent attention from weirdos. If any arb really gets so stressed at people making rude comments about them, they start lashing out and constructing conspiracy theories to account for people happening to disagree with them, arbcom is the last place they should be. Sure, this is just one more reason why Wikipedia's governance structure needs to be radically rebuilt, but until that happens the current setup is what we have. Per my comments there, I don't think they should have taken this case for other reasons, but allowing "they had it coming" as a defense is an awful precedent to set and would take Wikipedia right back to the days of the 2007 committee. ‑ Iridescent 19:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Just that. -- Jorm ( talk) 23:16, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others. The scope of this case is Gamaliel's recent actions (both administrative and otherwise), especially related to the Signpost April Fools Joke. The case will also examine the conduct of other editors who are directly involved in disputes with Gamaliel. The case is strictly intended to examine user conduct and alleged policy violations and will not examine broader topic areas. The clerks have been instructed to remove evidence which does not meet these requirements. The drafters will add additional parties as required during the case. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Evidence.
Please add your evidence by May 2, 2016, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. This notification is being sent to those listed on the case notification list. If you do not wish to recieve further notifications, you are welcome to opt-out on that page. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:39, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
The Editor of the Week initiative has been recognizing editors since 2013 for their hard work and dedication. Editing Wikipedia can be disheartening and tedious at times; the weekly Editor of the Week award lets its recipients know that their positive behaviour and collaborative spirit is appreciated. The response from the honorees has been enthusiastic and thankful.
The list of nominees is running short, and so new nominations are needed for consideration. Have you come across someone in your editing circle who deserves a pat on the back for improving article prose regularly, making it easier to understand? Or perhaps someone has stepped in to mediate a contentious dispute, and did an excellent job. Do you know someone who hasn't received many accolades and is deserving of greater renown? Is there an editor who does lots of little tasks well, such as cleaning up citations?
Please help us thank editors who display sustained patterns of excellence, working tirelessly in the background out of the spotlight, by submitting your nomination for Editor of the Week today!
Sent on behalf of Buster Seven Talk for the Editor of the Week initiative by MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 06:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
You were involved in one of the prior WP:FAC or WP:PR discussions about Emily Ratajkowski. The current discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Emily Ratajkowski/archive4 needs more discussants. In my prior successful FACs, success has been largely based on guidance at FAC in reshaping the content that I have nominated. I would appreciate discussants interested in giving guidance such guidance.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:55, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sarah,
I trust you're fine. You asked a question here. I am here to answer your question but I'm willing to reply here or here. I used my phone to create the article. This is how I did it; I go to messages, then draft a rough version with citations. From the rough version, I drafted the final version which I planned to submit before I submitted the problematic version. I don't find it easy writing directly on main space or sandbox when using phone.
Internet data costs a lot of money here. Computers consume more data than mobile phones. I can save up to 20 USD if I only edit with my phone and not my computer. I pay for both phone data and computer data in different bills. Warm regards. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 15:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikicology, thanks for replying. I have no idea why the clerk hatted it on evidence talk, but it's better in a central location, so I'll copy this discussion to workshop talk and will ping you there. SarahSV (talk) 22:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading File:Hermann Goering 2.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 12:29, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
FAC/EmRata | |
Sorry, didn't mean to mansplain. I hope we won't get to where you'll never speak to me again! GRuban ( talk) 20:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC) |
FYI. 166.176.59.66 ( talk) 07:01, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
The Barnstar of Diplomacy | |
For calling me out with this edit, but doing so diplomatically and with WP:AGF in mind. Also, for generally being an awesome contributor to our community, and I hope the long conversations about creating more receptive places within our community pan out. Sadads ( talk) 13:31, 4 April 2016 (UTC) |
Just curious, if you can close one or two sections, why can't you close the whole thing down? I know you've participated, but not in such as way that you'd be considered 'involved'. Plus there is an consensus at the bottom for closure. (also, why haven't any other admins shut this down yet?) Anyways, Thanks - theWOLFchild 03:19, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, User:Wikid77 here. I was on wikibreak for about 2 years and returned to see cite templates stuck on red-error messages for dates (all years before AD 100?) in 18,000 pages, and now flagging the language " Ancient Greek" as a check-language issue. I think more RfCs are needed to confirm the users want easier cites, with fewer restrictions, not more errors. Example:
{{
cite book}}
: Check date values in: |date=
(
help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (
link)Meanwhile, the French WP cite templates (see: fr:Template:Ouvrage) for 5 years have allowed title-notes as parameter "description=" (displayed after "titre=" title) and now autofix dates, without error msgs, such as changing American "June 7, 2015" into typical French "7 juin 2015" no complaints. I was planning to create a separate RfC page for each cite problem (date error, language, title description, etc.). However, should I combine all major wp:CS1 cite topics into a single RfC page or split as multiple RfCs? No hurry, I've been planning this for months. - Wikid77 ( talk) 12:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sarah, thought I would move this off the ANI page to your talk page as it was just you and me discussing this and it was kind of in the middle of a tangentially related discussion. Feel free to ping anyone else though whom you think would want to join in.
Women comprise between 8.5 and 16.1 percent of editors on the English Wikipedia.[1] This means that most articles are written by men, as are most of the content policies, including the notability and referencing policies. Those policies in turn determine which articles about women can be hosted, and frame many of the ways in which they are written.
Hi Sarah. I am writing something about this as we speak, and was looking for Pauline references to Jesus. Sources for the historicity of Jesus was a good start, and quite useful. But nowhere can I find a reference to 1 Corinthians 15:4 'he hath been raised on the third day according to the scriptures'. This is pretty famous because I am sure it is the only reference by Paul to the resurrection. I am intrigued by why it is not in an article about the historicity of Jesus. I expect because, if we regard resurrection as impossible, it cannot possibly be historical. But then later in that article it says 'Elements whose historical authenticity is disputed include the two accounts of the Nativity of Jesus, the miraculous events including the resurrection, and certain details about the crucifixion', so why isn't the well-known reference in Corinthians 15:4 included with a caveat that the historicity of the resurrection is disputed (as it is, by many)? And of course if the resurrection did occur, it would surely be 'historical'. But I won't touch the article in case it sparks off some nuclear catastrophe. Peter Damian ( talk) 19:45, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
There have been reverts. Extend PC or upgrade to semi? -- George Ho ( talk) 00:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi... I've submitted evidence to the Wikicology ArbCom case in which I have quoted you from ANI because I am commenting on Wikicology's response. I thought I should let you know as a courtesy. Cheers. EdChem ( talk) 14:13, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
Books & Bytes
Issue 16, February-March 2016
by
The Interior (
talk ·
contribs),
UY Scuti (
talk ·
contribs)
The Interior via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 15:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
I see no benefit in posting it there and stirring the pot further, but I can assure you that everyone who is or ever has been on arbcom is well aware of the effects of being the target of persistent attention from weirdos. If any arb really gets so stressed at people making rude comments about them, they start lashing out and constructing conspiracy theories to account for people happening to disagree with them, arbcom is the last place they should be. Sure, this is just one more reason why Wikipedia's governance structure needs to be radically rebuilt, but until that happens the current setup is what we have. Per my comments there, I don't think they should have taken this case for other reasons, but allowing "they had it coming" as a defense is an awful precedent to set and would take Wikipedia right back to the days of the 2007 committee. ‑ Iridescent 19:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Just that. -- Jorm ( talk) 23:16, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others. The scope of this case is Gamaliel's recent actions (both administrative and otherwise), especially related to the Signpost April Fools Joke. The case will also examine the conduct of other editors who are directly involved in disputes with Gamaliel. The case is strictly intended to examine user conduct and alleged policy violations and will not examine broader topic areas. The clerks have been instructed to remove evidence which does not meet these requirements. The drafters will add additional parties as required during the case. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Evidence.
Please add your evidence by May 2, 2016, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. This notification is being sent to those listed on the case notification list. If you do not wish to recieve further notifications, you are welcome to opt-out on that page. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 13:39, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
The Editor of the Week initiative has been recognizing editors since 2013 for their hard work and dedication. Editing Wikipedia can be disheartening and tedious at times; the weekly Editor of the Week award lets its recipients know that their positive behaviour and collaborative spirit is appreciated. The response from the honorees has been enthusiastic and thankful.
The list of nominees is running short, and so new nominations are needed for consideration. Have you come across someone in your editing circle who deserves a pat on the back for improving article prose regularly, making it easier to understand? Or perhaps someone has stepped in to mediate a contentious dispute, and did an excellent job. Do you know someone who hasn't received many accolades and is deserving of greater renown? Is there an editor who does lots of little tasks well, such as cleaning up citations?
Please help us thank editors who display sustained patterns of excellence, working tirelessly in the background out of the spotlight, by submitting your nomination for Editor of the Week today!
Sent on behalf of Buster Seven Talk for the Editor of the Week initiative by MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 06:18, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
You were involved in one of the prior WP:FAC or WP:PR discussions about Emily Ratajkowski. The current discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Emily Ratajkowski/archive4 needs more discussants. In my prior successful FACs, success has been largely based on guidance at FAC in reshaping the content that I have nominated. I would appreciate discussants interested in giving guidance such guidance.-- TonyTheTiger ( T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:55, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi Sarah,
I trust you're fine. You asked a question here. I am here to answer your question but I'm willing to reply here or here. I used my phone to create the article. This is how I did it; I go to messages, then draft a rough version with citations. From the rough version, I drafted the final version which I planned to submit before I submitted the problematic version. I don't find it easy writing directly on main space or sandbox when using phone.
Internet data costs a lot of money here. Computers consume more data than mobile phones. I can save up to 20 USD if I only edit with my phone and not my computer. I pay for both phone data and computer data in different bills. Warm regards. Wikic¤l¤gy t@lk to M£ 15:26, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Wikicology, thanks for replying. I have no idea why the clerk hatted it on evidence talk, but it's better in a central location, so I'll copy this discussion to workshop talk and will ping you there. SarahSV (talk) 22:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for uploading File:Hermann Goering 2.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 ( talk) 12:29, 28 April 2016 (UTC)