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Hi. Any chance that you could considerably reduce the size of the church image so that there isn't an immense quantity of blank space to the left? Take it out of the infobox and use as a thumbnail? That sort of thing? -- Guillaume Tell 00:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Guillaume. The image width is governed by the infobox code, which doesn't care about the height. The problem is the portrait aspect ratio of the image. If you would like to go to the commons link on the same page and choose a different image which has a landscape format the height of the image should halve. I am intending to add some governance info to the page, so the size of the text area should increase in the near future. Scillystuff ( talk) 10:14, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
After a bit of experimentation, I've followed your suggestion, plus I added a gallery down below. What do you think? (I see that we have a couple of parts of England in common). Best. -- Guillaume Tell 11:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Very nice, I like the gallery feature to give a feel of what an area is like. The post office is a good choice for a representative picture (and does nice cream teas as well). I thought I recognised your name from other pages I have edited :) Having seen what Froxfield, Hampshire looks like I guess it will be my next wiki visit. Scillystuff ( talk) 17:24, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Good, but don't forget Itchen Stoke. I'm slowly working my way up from the bottom of the List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South East England - next stop is in Kent, after I've unleashed Henry Conybeare. (And/or York Racecourse railway station...) Seriously, though, those long infoboxes do look like overkill for tiny places like these, so a gallery is a bit of a necessity. Must visit them sometime when I'm next Dahn Sarf. -- Guillaume Tell 17:51, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry if you feel singled out, but the comment wasn't aimed at anyone in particular; sometimes the labels I do are wider than I had anticipated. It just annoys me that I try to keep the width of a diagram to about a third to half the width of the page, then go back a month later to find that it's taken over the article. Britmax ( talk) 06:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

K&A Canal pics on Commons

Thanks for your message on commons (I don't check my talk page their often). Basically I'm trying to get Kennet and Avon Canal through FAC. One of the comments there was about the quality of an image from the 1970s being poor quality, but I think it is useful to have an image showing the dereliction of the canal before restoration. So I went looking (via Geograph) I found some from the mass upload from Geograph which were on Commons but either uncategorised or in categories labelled as needing checking. I've added the K&A category to loads of them but don't know the categories on Commons well enough to get them all right, so if I've put them in both parent & child I apologise. Any help with sorting the categories out would be great.— Rod talk 16:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help. Over the past week I have been trying to categorise the K&A lock images in Berkshire and Wiltshire. Is that any help, or is there another job you would prefer I took on? Scillystuff ( talk) 18:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
That would be great. I did consider a sub cat for Claverton Pumping Station (we already have one for Crofton Pumping Station which I added some to. We have a sub cat for the K&A in Bath - should we have one for K&A in Devizes, Hungerford etc? I'm not sure whether bridges could/should be a sub cat - I noticed Bridges in Wiltshire is a category. Another approach might be to do "old" pics many of the B&W ones are from the 1970s - if you spot one of these which is really good & illustrates the poor state of the canal before the restoration was undertaken we could swap this into the Kennet and Avon Canal article to replace File:Devizeslockspreresotoration.jpg which is the one which was commented on & started me looking at the images. I'm not much of an expert on categories - particularly on Commons - so I'd be happy to follow your lead.— Rod talk 19:01, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
The thing to do is to look at other canal cats and see how they are subcategorised. For example, commons:Category:Oxford Canal has a sub-cat for locks, but not for bridges. Bridges on that canal go into commons:Category:Oxford Canal and also into one of commons:Category:Bridges in Northamptonshire, commons:Category:Bridges in Oxfordshire, commons:Category:Bridges in Warwickshire, etc., whichever is most applicable. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 19:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Following up some of those Oxford C links I did spot commons:Category:Swing bridges in England into which some of the K&A pics should go - or maybe a sub cat commons:Category:Swing bridges on the Kennet and Avon Canal which could be a sub cat of swing bridges in England & K&A as there are quite a few swing bridges on the K&A?— Rod talk 20:05, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I've created a subcat for commons:Category:Claverton Pumping Station and found 18 images to go in it. On the subject of bridges, the parent commons category of commons:Canal bridges in the United Kingdom only has one child - commons:Canal bridges in Manchester to that would be a vast exercise for the user... Scillystuff ( talk) 20:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and just to confuse matters even further, there is commons:Category:Bridges over canals in the United Kingdom Scillystuff ( talk) 20:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
More complications. Some of the K&A ones are in commons:Category:Swing bridges in the United Kingdom rather than commons:Category:Swing bridges in England. I'm going to walk away from this (at least for this evening) as it is doing my head in!— Rod talk 20:30, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, I probably should have been sleeping, but I have created commons:Category:Canal bridges on the Kennet and Avon Canal and all of the associated parents and structure. I've created commons:Category:Canal bridges in Berkshire, commons:Category:Canal bridges in Wiltshire and all of the associated parents and structure and moved commons:Category:Bridges over canals in the United Kingdom and children into the new categories. I have started to populate the child categories from the images currently in the parent categories, or those which remain uncategorised. Scillystuff ( talk) 08:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work on these. I would suggest it would be useful to put your message & the question re Canal bridge v Bridges over canals on Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Waterways to get consensus. I only got involved because of the one specific article.— Rod talk 15:01, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Don't hold your breath - about the only people who've posted at WT:UKW in recent weeks have been me and Rodw.
I can see how somebody might object to commons:Category:Canal bridges on the Kennet and Avon Canal: the word Canal is in there twice. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 15:14, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I based that one on precedent as well - commons:Category:Canal locks on the Kennet and Avon Canal and parents. However, I see your point and I also see several hours of category renaming ahead of me :) so it is now commons:Category:Bridges over the Kennet and Avon Canal Scillystuff ( talk) 12:51, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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Next time you start a complaint about me on a project page, please inform me. As you can see, most editors agree with me. And just because I'm editing fast, doesn't me I'm not checking the pages. It just doesn't take long to see that there's little to none source out of universe information. JDDJS ( talk) 23:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I didn't start a complaint about you. I described your actions and I asked for advice. A very different thing. I did exactly what is asked in the 3RR warning - "If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution." Scillystuff ( talk) 15:30, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I admit my first message was ruder than necessary, but you still should have informed me. JDDJS ( talk) 17:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
OK, I agree it would have been polite to let you know. However, I already knew what your opinion was as I had contacted you on your own talk page before posting to the project. As you had already redirected over 50 articles supported by WikiProject Television it wasn’t unreasonable to expect that you were a member, or at least watched the project talk page. You can't realistically say that "most editors agree with me" when only two have and I and Spidey104 obviously don't. WP:TVSERIES states "Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television network with a national audience." This covers every episode of CSI. It doesn’t mention having to include "out of universe information", which is why I asked where you had sourced your notability guidelines. It does mention reliable sources, which is why I said in my comments that in most cases I agreed with you. However, I can't agree with "At most, these episodes only had on sourced and useful sentence, which I'm sorry if that's lost but overall it is not a big deal." as we are supposed to add references to Wikipedia, not hide them. However, I'm not going to 3RR with you over it. I've moved the one reference that I added to an otherwise hard to reference episode and I see you have reapplied the redirect, so that's done. I am glad that there are bold editors like you on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you :) Scillystuff ( talk) 19:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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Talkback III

Hello, Scillystuff. You have new messages at Redrose64's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

-- Redrose64 ( talk) 17:08, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

A-roads use international icon set

Hi, I have responded on my talk page, to keep the comment with your original query. Bob1960evens ( talk) 13:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Privett

Hi. Any chance that you could considerably reduce the size of the church image so that there isn't an immense quantity of blank space to the left? Take it out of the infobox and use as a thumbnail? That sort of thing? -- Guillaume Tell 00:02, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Guillaume. The image width is governed by the infobox code, which doesn't care about the height. The problem is the portrait aspect ratio of the image. If you would like to go to the commons link on the same page and choose a different image which has a landscape format the height of the image should halve. I am intending to add some governance info to the page, so the size of the text area should increase in the near future. Scillystuff ( talk) 10:14, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
After a bit of experimentation, I've followed your suggestion, plus I added a gallery down below. What do you think? (I see that we have a couple of parts of England in common). Best. -- Guillaume Tell 11:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Very nice, I like the gallery feature to give a feel of what an area is like. The post office is a good choice for a representative picture (and does nice cream teas as well). I thought I recognised your name from other pages I have edited :) Having seen what Froxfield, Hampshire looks like I guess it will be my next wiki visit. Scillystuff ( talk) 17:24, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Good, but don't forget Itchen Stoke. I'm slowly working my way up from the bottom of the List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in South East England - next stop is in Kent, after I've unleashed Henry Conybeare. (And/or York Racecourse railway station...) Seriously, though, those long infoboxes do look like overkill for tiny places like these, so a gallery is a bit of a necessity. Must visit them sometime when I'm next Dahn Sarf. -- Guillaume Tell 17:51, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Template:Peak Rail

Sorry if you feel singled out, but the comment wasn't aimed at anyone in particular; sometimes the labels I do are wider than I had anticipated. It just annoys me that I try to keep the width of a diagram to about a third to half the width of the page, then go back a month later to find that it's taken over the article. Britmax ( talk) 06:30, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

K&A Canal pics on Commons

Thanks for your message on commons (I don't check my talk page their often). Basically I'm trying to get Kennet and Avon Canal through FAC. One of the comments there was about the quality of an image from the 1970s being poor quality, but I think it is useful to have an image showing the dereliction of the canal before restoration. So I went looking (via Geograph) I found some from the mass upload from Geograph which were on Commons but either uncategorised or in categories labelled as needing checking. I've added the K&A category to loads of them but don't know the categories on Commons well enough to get them all right, so if I've put them in both parent & child I apologise. Any help with sorting the categories out would be great.— Rod talk 16:35, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help. Over the past week I have been trying to categorise the K&A lock images in Berkshire and Wiltshire. Is that any help, or is there another job you would prefer I took on? Scillystuff ( talk) 18:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
That would be great. I did consider a sub cat for Claverton Pumping Station (we already have one for Crofton Pumping Station which I added some to. We have a sub cat for the K&A in Bath - should we have one for K&A in Devizes, Hungerford etc? I'm not sure whether bridges could/should be a sub cat - I noticed Bridges in Wiltshire is a category. Another approach might be to do "old" pics many of the B&W ones are from the 1970s - if you spot one of these which is really good & illustrates the poor state of the canal before the restoration was undertaken we could swap this into the Kennet and Avon Canal article to replace File:Devizeslockspreresotoration.jpg which is the one which was commented on & started me looking at the images. I'm not much of an expert on categories - particularly on Commons - so I'd be happy to follow your lead.— Rod talk 19:01, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
The thing to do is to look at other canal cats and see how they are subcategorised. For example, commons:Category:Oxford Canal has a sub-cat for locks, but not for bridges. Bridges on that canal go into commons:Category:Oxford Canal and also into one of commons:Category:Bridges in Northamptonshire, commons:Category:Bridges in Oxfordshire, commons:Category:Bridges in Warwickshire, etc., whichever is most applicable. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 19:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Following up some of those Oxford C links I did spot commons:Category:Swing bridges in England into which some of the K&A pics should go - or maybe a sub cat commons:Category:Swing bridges on the Kennet and Avon Canal which could be a sub cat of swing bridges in England & K&A as there are quite a few swing bridges on the K&A?— Rod talk 20:05, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
I've created a subcat for commons:Category:Claverton Pumping Station and found 18 images to go in it. On the subject of bridges, the parent commons category of commons:Canal bridges in the United Kingdom only has one child - commons:Canal bridges in Manchester to that would be a vast exercise for the user... Scillystuff ( talk) 20:13, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and just to confuse matters even further, there is commons:Category:Bridges over canals in the United Kingdom Scillystuff ( talk) 20:17, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
More complications. Some of the K&A ones are in commons:Category:Swing bridges in the United Kingdom rather than commons:Category:Swing bridges in England. I'm going to walk away from this (at least for this evening) as it is doing my head in!— Rod talk 20:30, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, I probably should have been sleeping, but I have created commons:Category:Canal bridges on the Kennet and Avon Canal and all of the associated parents and structure. I've created commons:Category:Canal bridges in Berkshire, commons:Category:Canal bridges in Wiltshire and all of the associated parents and structure and moved commons:Category:Bridges over canals in the United Kingdom and children into the new categories. I have started to populate the child categories from the images currently in the parent categories, or those which remain uncategorised. Scillystuff ( talk) 08:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for all your work on these. I would suggest it would be useful to put your message & the question re Canal bridge v Bridges over canals on Wikipedia:WikiProject UK Waterways to get consensus. I only got involved because of the one specific article.— Rod talk 15:01, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Don't hold your breath - about the only people who've posted at WT:UKW in recent weeks have been me and Rodw.
I can see how somebody might object to commons:Category:Canal bridges on the Kennet and Avon Canal: the word Canal is in there twice. -- Redrose64 ( talk) 15:14, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I based that one on precedent as well - commons:Category:Canal locks on the Kennet and Avon Canal and parents. However, I see your point and I also see several hours of category renaming ahead of me :) so it is now commons:Category:Bridges over the Kennet and Avon Canal Scillystuff ( talk) 12:51, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hello

Next time you start a complaint about me on a project page, please inform me. As you can see, most editors agree with me. And just because I'm editing fast, doesn't me I'm not checking the pages. It just doesn't take long to see that there's little to none source out of universe information. JDDJS ( talk) 23:52, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I didn't start a complaint about you. I described your actions and I asked for advice. A very different thing. I did exactly what is asked in the 3RR warning - "If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss the changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution." Scillystuff ( talk) 15:30, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I admit my first message was ruder than necessary, but you still should have informed me. JDDJS ( talk) 17:44, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
OK, I agree it would have been polite to let you know. However, I already knew what your opinion was as I had contacted you on your own talk page before posting to the project. As you had already redirected over 50 articles supported by WikiProject Television it wasn’t unreasonable to expect that you were a member, or at least watched the project talk page. You can't realistically say that "most editors agree with me" when only two have and I and Spidey104 obviously don't. WP:TVSERIES states "Generally, an individual radio or television program is likely to be notable if it airs on a network of radio or television stations (either national or regional in scope), or on a cable television network with a national audience." This covers every episode of CSI. It doesn’t mention having to include "out of universe information", which is why I asked where you had sourced your notability guidelines. It does mention reliable sources, which is why I said in my comments that in most cases I agreed with you. However, I can't agree with "At most, these episodes only had on sourced and useful sentence, which I'm sorry if that's lost but overall it is not a big deal." as we are supposed to add references to Wikipedia, not hide them. However, I'm not going to 3RR with you over it. I've moved the one reference that I added to an otherwise hard to reference episode and I see you have reapplied the redirect, so that's done. I am glad that there are bold editors like you on Wikipedia, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you :) Scillystuff ( talk) 19:18, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

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