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Recently, the page East Turkistan Government in Exile has been redirected to the page of Anwar Yusuf Turani. Based on my research, Anwar Yusuf Turani is a figure head of the East Turkistan Independence Movement and East Turkistan Government in Exile. Anwar Yusuf Turani is not equivalent to the East Turkistan Government in Exile. In the talk page related to the deletion of this page it was noted that the government in exile was not "notable" enough to have its own page. However, I provided numerous sources and references that back the credibility of the organization. Additionally, there are many government in exiles that have their Wiki pages but are not in discussion to be deleted or even redirected, such as the Tibetan Government in Exile. Why is it that the East Tukistan Government in Exile cannot have a page on Wikipedia? As an expert on Central Asia, specializing in the Xinjiang region, I plan to write more articles about different aspects of that region. However, if the pages I create or edit are constantly deleted or redirected on the basis of not being notable even when I provide sufficient credible references and images, it discourages me to contribute through Wikipedia. Therefore, I want a measure to be taken to resolve this issue immediately--- Tewpiq 12 December 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tewpiq ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible for you to notify user:Noraton [1] of the restrictions concerning Armenian-Azerbaijani articles? Thank you. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 19:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello! it's football leb once again. i need your assist on how to do a restoration for the article "Rabih Najjar" u already moved it to User:Football leb/Rabih Najjar.i worked lately on the article and improved it based on new circumstances and i guess the problem because of which it was deleted is fixed now. thank you football leb ( talk) 17:14, 1 January 2012
An editor has asked for a deletion review of East Turkistan Government in Exile. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Tewpiq ( talk) 17:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I notice you closed the DRV. Since it is now closed, please speedy delete the "article", which consists solely of a DRV tag and an uncategorized tag Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 19:38, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I was away when it was nom'ed, as I would have copied the article as a future possible article and I would have something to work off. Could you send a copy of the Leeton Market Plaza article via email? Bidgee ( talk) 12:02, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Winter is Coming, The Wolf and the Lion, and The Pointy End are all up for GA review. Your assistance on any or all of these would be welcome. I'll be working them this weekend as well. Cheers, Jclemens ( talk) 19:27, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article.)
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Good close on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2011_December_30#Necrophilia_in_popular_culture. Bearian ( talk) 22:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks! Sandstein 12:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello Sandstein. The page for the East Turkistan Government in Exile, as seen in User:Tewpiq/East Turkistan Government in Exile, should be independent from Anwar Yusuf Turani. ETGIE is a government organization that is notable across the Turkic community. I am not trying to promote a cause or advocate the Independence of a country through Wikipedia, however I merely desire that the world know that such a government organization working towards the East Turkistan movement exists. The new page has been in WP:DRV, for about a week now and there has been no more objections towards the creation of this article. Therefore, if you are able, please restore the article. I will continue to expand upon the page by finding more references and sources. Tewpiq ( talk) 19:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sandstein, I was sorry to see you had deleted my article. The article had been completely rewritten and improved significantly since the original requests for deletion had been made. Hence many of the comments of delete were no longer relevant to the finished article. Even the original nominator of the deletion, JetBlast ( talk), left a message on my talk page to say he was sorry that it got deleted. I appreciate you have to whiz through these articles and make quick decisions, but could you please look again at the initial and final versions and reconsider? Many thanks BritAirman ( talk) 18:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help with The Pointy End, which has now passed. As of now You Win or You Die is on review and in pretty good shape, I think. Baelor is up next, and also in pretty good shape, but Fire and Blood (Game of Thrones), the last of the lot, still needs some work. Anything you can help with is appreciated! Cheers, Jclemens ( talk) 23:46, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear sandstein, i was trying to interact with you about the aticle "User:Football leb/Rabih Najjar" but it seemed that i was blocked from editing on Wikipedia for unknown reasons. please do know that new circumstances occurred to the article in question, and we was able to add reliable sources to it, what made the notability of this person no more a question, therefore please do help me restoring the article.thank you football leb ( talk) 22:18, 15 January 2012
since the problem in the first place was the lack of reliable sources,therefore the notability of this person was in question. I was able to provide new sources based on new circumstances: Rabih najjar manage to achieve lately a new personal title in an international tournament to add on his coaching career, so i documented this in the article and do not forget the progress of the article from day 1. therefore the hole changes made to the article including the sources fix the notability issue based on Wikipedia criteria, one reliable source in enough to solve the notability problem. please do consider my point of vue and release the article and if possible do check also the aricle improvement since u checked the changes i made lately, this way you can understand more my point of vue football leb ( talk) 22:39, 17 January 2012
no the wikipedia community admnitted during the debate that the Lebanese league is a fully professional league please go back to the debate history on the article before the deletion and we already have provided sources showed that rabih najjar was playing in this league and this was no more the problem, actually Hasteur who nominated the article for deletion admitted that he made a mistake by considering our league non professional, our problem was to have a source to backup our point of vue considering this player who is now a reputated coach in my country and i added to the sources already in the article another source yet this time intenational that backup my point of vue please do help and check what i told you now, i guess there's been a mistake considering this article i do really apreciate your help football leb ( talk) 22:47, 19 January 2012
no way! my unpunctuated arguments are due to the fact that I speak french and Arabic, English is my third language. i find your reply a little bit funny judging my punctuation. as for being repetitive and overly verbose, this is the only way to show my point of view and do know it's my first contributions on Wikipedia therefore i have hard time to mention the links everytime in my arguments. anyway thank you and i really respect your point of view although i don't agree with it because I'm sure that you are not aware about sports in my country and you are not interested to do so. football leb ( talk) 17:56, 20 January 2012
Hi,
You just closed a debate that I was involved in, yet a second one started about the same time is still open ( this one). Is there something weird happening, or did the relisting mean it stays open a lot longer than normal? Thanks, WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 00:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Sandstein. The following AFD discussion has been open since December 12th, having been relisted 3 times since then.
The AFD itself includes nominations for Blackfish Publishing and Death Ray (magazine). If you could be of any assistance in seeing it is closed, it would be most appreciated. Stubble boy 13:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of Hot 100 number-one singles of the 2000s (U.S.). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. It's not really a DRV of your close (I have no objections to it), it's just that I closed a very similar discussion that ended up keeping the nominated articles. So whatever we do, the fate of all three lists should be consistent. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Could you provide me the content for the deleted article List of Internet service providers in Pakistan? I'd like to merge some of the info that was deleted along with it into the article Internet in Pakistan. Thanks, Mar4d ( talk) 12:08, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
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Actually, this is interesting. It appears that we coined that expression, and that it may be entering English legal vocabulary right now. If I search Google Scholar for that phrase, I get this paper, which sources the term to -- Wikipedia. A second hit is this paper, which is about Wikipedia, and mentions the term in passing. Then there's one Korean paper, which apparently also got the term from Wikipedia. The rest of the 8 hits are Wikipedia mirrors.
So, it may well be that it's a neologism: English legal vocabulary did not have a word for the concept (although the concept itself was known allright). We just used a slightly awkward translation of the German "Panoramafreiheit", and apparently that is being picked up slowly by legal scholars.
I don't care whether the article has a {{ Neologism}} or not, but I find this etymological development highly interesting. Future etymologists will have to track the history of commons:COM:FOP to figure out who used the phrase first. Lupo 12:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I relisted East Turkistan Government in Exile on today's log. I couldn't determine how to close it and felt more discussion would be beneficial.--v/r - T P 13:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sandstein. Another user has asked me to look at Special:Contributions/Colt228cowhorses and as it also concerns their Commons uploads I thought I would ask you to take a look. Do you have time? -- John ( talk) 06:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I have revised and expanded the page for Constance Demby.
/info/en/?search=Constance_Demby
Is this ok now by wiki standards? I see that there have been some content problems Thanks for your time.
Christopher Stewart Cstewart139 ( talk) 19:08, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
We are wondering, why was listing of Kalpna Singh-Chitnis was deleted from Wikipedia? Information was verifiable from several sources. We hope, this article can be recovered and re-posted on Wikipedia for the users.
Thank you! www.kalpnasinghchitnis.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.172.76 ( talk) 22:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Sandstein - do you have access to the quality queue? If so, log in normally, then choose "ticket#" from the top far right and cut and paste the ticket number in (2011121110010362). This should pull it up for you. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 18:08, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
This was said: "and/or an exercise in advocacy on the part of Wikipedia."
here: [3]
What individuals post is not necessary a reflection on the Wiki. or that's the way I see it. The Wiki. to my knowledge did not create the article an individual did, who's motives maybe be indeterminate. I speak because the comment reflects on the Wiki directly. -- User:Warrior777 ( talk) 18:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Sandstein, your name was mentioned in the "santorum campaign" talk as an admin who is particularly versed and unbiased in the resolution of NPOV issues. There is, IMHO, a rather fundamental POV dispute within Talk:Swiftboating that has now escalated into multiple RfCs, multiple talk sections and an associated NPOV Noticeboard discussion...all in need of resolution. If you might consider taking a look (or might recommend another admin who might be interested), it would be most appreciated. Thanks for your consideration. JakeInJoisey ( talk) 04:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
You closed the AfD on this article as no consensus. I have removed the AfD template from the article for you, but it still needs a talk page template. Ladyof Shalott 21:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I found more information on the subject at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald P. Scott. Not sure if you want to take another look there. Cheers! Location ( talk) 16:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
While leaving a note on user:Johnalexwood's talk page alerting them to this discussion, I saw your message about arbitration enforcement and BLP violations. Please review the BLPN report, I suspect a topic ban is in order. Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 19:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I have started a merge discussion at Talk:Acceptance_and_commitment_therapy#Merge_discussion. As you took part in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Association for Contextual Behavioral Science, you may interested in leaving a comment. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:54, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Recently, the page East Turkistan Government in Exile has been redirected to the page of Anwar Yusuf Turani. Based on my research, Anwar Yusuf Turani is a figure head of the East Turkistan Independence Movement and East Turkistan Government in Exile. Anwar Yusuf Turani is not equivalent to the East Turkistan Government in Exile. In the talk page related to the deletion of this page it was noted that the government in exile was not "notable" enough to have its own page. However, I provided numerous sources and references that back the credibility of the organization. Additionally, there are many government in exiles that have their Wiki pages but are not in discussion to be deleted or even redirected, such as the Tibetan Government in Exile. Why is it that the East Tukistan Government in Exile cannot have a page on Wikipedia? As an expert on Central Asia, specializing in the Xinjiang region, I plan to write more articles about different aspects of that region. However, if the pages I create or edit are constantly deleted or redirected on the basis of not being notable even when I provide sufficient credible references and images, it discourages me to contribute through Wikipedia. Therefore, I want a measure to be taken to resolve this issue immediately--- Tewpiq 12 December 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tewpiq ( talk • contribs) 18:39, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Would it be possible for you to notify user:Noraton [1] of the restrictions concerning Armenian-Azerbaijani articles? Thank you. -- Kansas Bear ( talk) 19:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Hello! it's football leb once again. i need your assist on how to do a restoration for the article "Rabih Najjar" u already moved it to User:Football leb/Rabih Najjar.i worked lately on the article and improved it based on new circumstances and i guess the problem because of which it was deleted is fixed now. thank you football leb ( talk) 17:14, 1 January 2012
An editor has asked for a deletion review of East Turkistan Government in Exile. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Tewpiq ( talk) 17:57, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey, I notice you closed the DRV. Since it is now closed, please speedy delete the "article", which consists solely of a DRV tag and an uncategorized tag Purpleback pack 89≈≈≈≈ 19:38, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I was away when it was nom'ed, as I would have copied the article as a future possible article and I would have something to work off. Could you send a copy of the Leeton Market Plaza article via email? Bidgee ( talk) 12:02, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Winter is Coming, The Wolf and the Lion, and The Pointy End are all up for GA review. Your assistance on any or all of these would be welcome. I'll be working them this weekend as well. Cheers, Jclemens ( talk) 19:27, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article.)
The Admin's Barnstar | |
Good close on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2011_December_30#Necrophilia_in_popular_culture. Bearian ( talk) 22:14, 9 January 2012 (UTC) |
Thanks! Sandstein 12:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello Sandstein. The page for the East Turkistan Government in Exile, as seen in User:Tewpiq/East Turkistan Government in Exile, should be independent from Anwar Yusuf Turani. ETGIE is a government organization that is notable across the Turkic community. I am not trying to promote a cause or advocate the Independence of a country through Wikipedia, however I merely desire that the world know that such a government organization working towards the East Turkistan movement exists. The new page has been in WP:DRV, for about a week now and there has been no more objections towards the creation of this article. Therefore, if you are able, please restore the article. I will continue to expand upon the page by finding more references and sources. Tewpiq ( talk) 19:18, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sandstein, I was sorry to see you had deleted my article. The article had been completely rewritten and improved significantly since the original requests for deletion had been made. Hence many of the comments of delete were no longer relevant to the finished article. Even the original nominator of the deletion, JetBlast ( talk), left a message on my talk page to say he was sorry that it got deleted. I appreciate you have to whiz through these articles and make quick decisions, but could you please look again at the initial and final versions and reconsider? Many thanks BritAirman ( talk) 18:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help with The Pointy End, which has now passed. As of now You Win or You Die is on review and in pretty good shape, I think. Baelor is up next, and also in pretty good shape, but Fire and Blood (Game of Thrones), the last of the lot, still needs some work. Anything you can help with is appreciated! Cheers, Jclemens ( talk) 23:46, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Dear sandstein, i was trying to interact with you about the aticle "User:Football leb/Rabih Najjar" but it seemed that i was blocked from editing on Wikipedia for unknown reasons. please do know that new circumstances occurred to the article in question, and we was able to add reliable sources to it, what made the notability of this person no more a question, therefore please do help me restoring the article.thank you football leb ( talk) 22:18, 15 January 2012
since the problem in the first place was the lack of reliable sources,therefore the notability of this person was in question. I was able to provide new sources based on new circumstances: Rabih najjar manage to achieve lately a new personal title in an international tournament to add on his coaching career, so i documented this in the article and do not forget the progress of the article from day 1. therefore the hole changes made to the article including the sources fix the notability issue based on Wikipedia criteria, one reliable source in enough to solve the notability problem. please do consider my point of vue and release the article and if possible do check also the aricle improvement since u checked the changes i made lately, this way you can understand more my point of vue football leb ( talk) 22:39, 17 January 2012
no the wikipedia community admnitted during the debate that the Lebanese league is a fully professional league please go back to the debate history on the article before the deletion and we already have provided sources showed that rabih najjar was playing in this league and this was no more the problem, actually Hasteur who nominated the article for deletion admitted that he made a mistake by considering our league non professional, our problem was to have a source to backup our point of vue considering this player who is now a reputated coach in my country and i added to the sources already in the article another source yet this time intenational that backup my point of vue please do help and check what i told you now, i guess there's been a mistake considering this article i do really apreciate your help football leb ( talk) 22:47, 19 January 2012
no way! my unpunctuated arguments are due to the fact that I speak french and Arabic, English is my third language. i find your reply a little bit funny judging my punctuation. as for being repetitive and overly verbose, this is the only way to show my point of view and do know it's my first contributions on Wikipedia therefore i have hard time to mention the links everytime in my arguments. anyway thank you and i really respect your point of view although i don't agree with it because I'm sure that you are not aware about sports in my country and you are not interested to do so. football leb ( talk) 17:56, 20 January 2012
Hi,
You just closed a debate that I was involved in, yet a second one started about the same time is still open ( this one). Is there something weird happening, or did the relisting mean it stays open a lot longer than normal? Thanks, WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules: simple/ complex 00:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Sandstein. The following AFD discussion has been open since December 12th, having been relisted 3 times since then.
The AFD itself includes nominations for Blackfish Publishing and Death Ray (magazine). If you could be of any assistance in seeing it is closed, it would be most appreciated. Stubble boy 13:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of Hot 100 number-one singles of the 2000s (U.S.). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. It's not really a DRV of your close (I have no objections to it), it's just that I closed a very similar discussion that ended up keeping the nominated articles. So whatever we do, the fate of all three lists should be consistent. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Could you provide me the content for the deleted article List of Internet service providers in Pakistan? I'd like to merge some of the info that was deleted along with it into the article Internet in Pakistan. Thanks, Mar4d ( talk) 12:08, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
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Actually, this is interesting. It appears that we coined that expression, and that it may be entering English legal vocabulary right now. If I search Google Scholar for that phrase, I get this paper, which sources the term to -- Wikipedia. A second hit is this paper, which is about Wikipedia, and mentions the term in passing. Then there's one Korean paper, which apparently also got the term from Wikipedia. The rest of the 8 hits are Wikipedia mirrors.
So, it may well be that it's a neologism: English legal vocabulary did not have a word for the concept (although the concept itself was known allright). We just used a slightly awkward translation of the German "Panoramafreiheit", and apparently that is being picked up slowly by legal scholars.
I don't care whether the article has a {{ Neologism}} or not, but I find this etymological development highly interesting. Future etymologists will have to track the history of commons:COM:FOP to figure out who used the phrase first. Lupo 12:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I just wanted to let you know that I relisted East Turkistan Government in Exile on today's log. I couldn't determine how to close it and felt more discussion would be beneficial.--v/r - T P 13:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sandstein. Another user has asked me to look at Special:Contributions/Colt228cowhorses and as it also concerns their Commons uploads I thought I would ask you to take a look. Do you have time? -- John ( talk) 06:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I have revised and expanded the page for Constance Demby.
/info/en/?search=Constance_Demby
Is this ok now by wiki standards? I see that there have been some content problems Thanks for your time.
Christopher Stewart Cstewart139 ( talk) 19:08, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
We are wondering, why was listing of Kalpna Singh-Chitnis was deleted from Wikipedia? Information was verifiable from several sources. We hope, this article can be recovered and re-posted on Wikipedia for the users.
Thank you! www.kalpnasinghchitnis.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.187.172.76 ( talk) 22:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Sandstein - do you have access to the quality queue? If so, log in normally, then choose "ticket#" from the top far right and cut and paste the ticket number in (2011121110010362). This should pull it up for you. -- Jezebel'sPonyo bons mots 18:08, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
This was said: "and/or an exercise in advocacy on the part of Wikipedia."
here: [3]
What individuals post is not necessary a reflection on the Wiki. or that's the way I see it. The Wiki. to my knowledge did not create the article an individual did, who's motives maybe be indeterminate. I speak because the comment reflects on the Wiki directly. -- User:Warrior777 ( talk) 18:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Sandstein, your name was mentioned in the "santorum campaign" talk as an admin who is particularly versed and unbiased in the resolution of NPOV issues. There is, IMHO, a rather fundamental POV dispute within Talk:Swiftboating that has now escalated into multiple RfCs, multiple talk sections and an associated NPOV Noticeboard discussion...all in need of resolution. If you might consider taking a look (or might recommend another admin who might be interested), it would be most appreciated. Thanks for your consideration. JakeInJoisey ( talk) 04:28, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
You closed the AfD on this article as no consensus. I have removed the AfD template from the article for you, but it still needs a talk page template. Ladyof Shalott 21:40, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
I found more information on the subject at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald P. Scott. Not sure if you want to take another look there. Cheers! Location ( talk) 16:27, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
While leaving a note on user:Johnalexwood's talk page alerting them to this discussion, I saw your message about arbitration enforcement and BLP violations. Please review the BLPN report, I suspect a topic ban is in order. Delicious carbuncle ( talk) 19:40, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
I have started a merge discussion at Talk:Acceptance_and_commitment_therapy#Merge_discussion. As you took part in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Association for Contextual Behavioral Science, you may interested in leaving a comment. SilkTork ✔Tea time 09:54, 31 January 2012 (UTC)