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AdamBiswanger1
13:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Answering here, since the page is now gone: the whole page was a copyright violation, from a couple of different websites, so I've deleted it instead of transwiki'ing it to the German wikipedia. Just letting you know since you commented on the talk page. - Bobet 17:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
You say you are not a meanie. But you joined your friends in a "mob" hunt on my article before I could finish it. there are so many admins against it, nothing I can do will save it. I am not sure how to put more info that these monsters will find acceptable.
To me you're all just hatemongers.
But at least good old "Neo" will have some new material to do art with. He said he's already drawing a pic of Wikipedia with a nazi symbol on it trying to "erase" his character "Nyrva".
He pointed out to me a lot of things on here (like the movies I mentioned) that have no real notability either, but because they are big time "Hollywood" and not an underground artist, they can get ON this site.
You have a LOT of stuff that isn't "notable" on here.
In fact, I saw a news byte a year ago how some kids got in trouble at their school for using Wikipedia, and the info they used was not correct. So your site is nothing more than an elitist club that only allows what you people who RUN it say.
Prove me wrong! If this article is deleted, you make a martyr out of me, and make me RIGHT!
I won't bother trying to get other stuff on your elitist site if you erase this!
Have fun, haters!!
(sorry but you and your friends on that "discussion" page are all just haters to me!)
Witaku ( talk) 01:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Please tell me if it makes any sence to continue and put work in this article by reading and answering my talk on the talk page of the article. I would be most greatful to you!! -- Bufi ( talk) 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, your offer is more than friendly. My question is: do you have any hopes that I can ever proof the importance of the article? I have very bad experiance in that, that´s why i really stopped whriting in the german Wikipedia,-- Bufi ( talk) 17:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
"we would be overwhelmed" i take for an ironic remark? I think your answer helps me to wait until "Life from the inside" gets more attention in different media so by that I could proove importance. But if it never does I will always "Die Finger davon lassen" (Let it Be). Thank you very much for all the help you gave me, of course, I made it all too fast. It was only a trial and I admit that I know, that Wikipedia doesnt like trials. Greetings to Brittain, -- Bufi ( talk) 18:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Comment le défi vous retournent le mon édite sur l'article de Paul Byrd?!?! Vous avez-aucun sens de décence? L'homme ressemble à un porc et chacun l'appelle Pigface. N'importe qui avec la moitié d'un esprit peut voir cela. Cessez l'éditer-lutte. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faethon Ghost ( talk • contribs) 15:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Please don't americanise British English where you find it. This is an international site, and there's very clear Wikipedia guidance on the matter.-- S Marshall Talk/ Cont 01:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The article on Norma (female name) is now into a deletion notice, but instead of deleting the section entirely, somehow can somebody merge Norma (female name) under Wikipedia article Norman (name) rather than deleting Norma, because the female name Norma has connections through Norman. Also, sections require information and time and blossoming to actual articles. Neurotic heart ( talk) 17:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Dear S. Marshall, I would like to ask you if you could please be so kind as to look on that Article: I had written a section on "The interpertation of the end" that you can find in the history – Interpretation of the ending – just before it was completely removed now with the remark, that it is original research. I must admit, it is. And I know – and hate - this discussion on Wikipedia. Just could you take a short look, if you agree, that my whole passage must be deleted, just because it seems to be OR? That would be very friendly of you! -- Bufi ( talk) 18:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
S Marshall, thanks for taking the time to comment on Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. I am glad you also see how important this guideline will be, since it will determine the inclusion or exclusion of television character and television episodes. I agree with you, SoWhy, AfD hero, MichaelQSchmidt, and Townlake that it is "unnecessary rule-creep". Ikip ( talk) 14:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words! Drmies ( talk) 20:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi S (if I may ;)),
I think that such a proposal would serve WP well. I've never been involved with a WikiProject, and don't rightly know how to go about it. How would we? We could write up a draft proposal/guideline, and put that up there somewhere? And do you know if they can be speedied? I didn't find that at WP:CSD, but I also didn't see where it says that a book can't be speedied (which was mentioned in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Urban bible). One more thing: you mentioned trade journals, and WP:JOURNAL focuses explicitly on academic journals; WP:MAGAZINE does not included "journals" at all. Where does a trade journal fall? No doubt the publisher would call it 'academic,' since that has a better reputation... Hey, thanks for the Wiki smile, and I look forward to more agreement. Drmies ( talk) 18:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I can see why you want to keep the article. You believe it is a page that is appropriate to be included in the encyclopedia. The AfD that resulted in a merge was not overturned at DRV, and so still stands. seresin ( ¡? ) 20:49, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I am continuing the discussion that started on the talk page of the above article.
You suggested that I ask for mediation in the dispute with User:Skatergal. I have already done this. If you look at her talk page you will see that two admins have asked her to come to the table, but she has ignored them. As long as this discussion does not take place, the main bone of contention ( Sindhi people) will remain unresolved and protected. In turn, she will probably continue to create POV forks like this one.
Your vote was for a merge, but that cannot happen until the other article is unprotected, which is not going to happen until a discussion begins. I could get into an edit war here, but really don't feel like it. Finally, I don't feel comfortable taking the extreme step of asking for her to be banned, because she clearly is much more knowledgable on the subject than I am.
Since you stopped by, I thought I would Shanghai you and ask for an opinion. What would you do under the circumstances? Gamesmaster G-9 ( talk) 00:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Hmm...not much response to our contribution, is there? What do we do, if anything? Take care, Drmies ( talk) 03:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi S Marshall regarding Level bomber. The book "The bomber war : Arthur Harris and the Allied bomber offensive, 1939-1945" by Robin Neillands - is it the 2001 edition and at what pages are the citations? What is the name of the Price book from 1980? One of the google sources is refering to high-level bomber ie bombs released from high altitude. --Regards, Necessary Evil ( talk) 22:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I am working on an objective alternate to notability in my userspace. Please read User:A Nobody/Inclusion guidelines and offer any suggestions on its talk page, which I will consider for revision purposes. If you do not do so, no worries, but if you wish to help, it is appreciated. Best, -- A Nobody My talk 01:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Can you please check out my response at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chaotics? NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 23:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Julie Ferrier requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{
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userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.
Rtphokie (
talk)
18:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Julie Ferrier, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{ hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Rtphokie ( talk) 19:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Julie Ferrier requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{
hangon}}
to the top of
the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on
the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact
one of these admins to request that they
userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.
Rtphokie (
talk)
19:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
If you wish to continue editing this page and possibly bring it to a notable point, please follow the instructions displayed by the db tag and add {{ hangon}} to the page rather than removing the db tag.-- Rtphokie ( talk) 19:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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Welcome!
Hello, S Marshall, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Wikipedian! Please
sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out
Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}}
on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!
AdamBiswanger1
13:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Answering here, since the page is now gone: the whole page was a copyright violation, from a couple of different websites, so I've deleted it instead of transwiki'ing it to the German wikipedia. Just letting you know since you commented on the talk page. - Bobet 17:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
You say you are not a meanie. But you joined your friends in a "mob" hunt on my article before I could finish it. there are so many admins against it, nothing I can do will save it. I am not sure how to put more info that these monsters will find acceptable.
To me you're all just hatemongers.
But at least good old "Neo" will have some new material to do art with. He said he's already drawing a pic of Wikipedia with a nazi symbol on it trying to "erase" his character "Nyrva".
He pointed out to me a lot of things on here (like the movies I mentioned) that have no real notability either, but because they are big time "Hollywood" and not an underground artist, they can get ON this site.
You have a LOT of stuff that isn't "notable" on here.
In fact, I saw a news byte a year ago how some kids got in trouble at their school for using Wikipedia, and the info they used was not correct. So your site is nothing more than an elitist club that only allows what you people who RUN it say.
Prove me wrong! If this article is deleted, you make a martyr out of me, and make me RIGHT!
I won't bother trying to get other stuff on your elitist site if you erase this!
Have fun, haters!!
(sorry but you and your friends on that "discussion" page are all just haters to me!)
Witaku ( talk) 01:51, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Please tell me if it makes any sence to continue and put work in this article by reading and answering my talk on the talk page of the article. I would be most greatful to you!! -- Bufi ( talk) 17:34, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, your offer is more than friendly. My question is: do you have any hopes that I can ever proof the importance of the article? I have very bad experiance in that, that´s why i really stopped whriting in the german Wikipedia,-- Bufi ( talk) 17:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
"we would be overwhelmed" i take for an ironic remark? I think your answer helps me to wait until "Life from the inside" gets more attention in different media so by that I could proove importance. But if it never does I will always "Die Finger davon lassen" (Let it Be). Thank you very much for all the help you gave me, of course, I made it all too fast. It was only a trial and I admit that I know, that Wikipedia doesnt like trials. Greetings to Brittain, -- Bufi ( talk) 18:01, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Comment le défi vous retournent le mon édite sur l'article de Paul Byrd?!?! Vous avez-aucun sens de décence? L'homme ressemble à un porc et chacun l'appelle Pigface. N'importe qui avec la moitié d'un esprit peut voir cela. Cessez l'éditer-lutte. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faethon Ghost ( talk • contribs) 15:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Please don't americanise British English where you find it. This is an international site, and there's very clear Wikipedia guidance on the matter.-- S Marshall Talk/ Cont 01:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
The article on Norma (female name) is now into a deletion notice, but instead of deleting the section entirely, somehow can somebody merge Norma (female name) under Wikipedia article Norman (name) rather than deleting Norma, because the female name Norma has connections through Norman. Also, sections require information and time and blossoming to actual articles. Neurotic heart ( talk) 17:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Dear S. Marshall, I would like to ask you if you could please be so kind as to look on that Article: I had written a section on "The interpertation of the end" that you can find in the history – Interpretation of the ending – just before it was completely removed now with the remark, that it is original research. I must admit, it is. And I know – and hate - this discussion on Wikipedia. Just could you take a short look, if you agree, that my whole passage must be deleted, just because it seems to be OR? That would be very friendly of you! -- Bufi ( talk) 18:51, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
S Marshall, thanks for taking the time to comment on Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. I am glad you also see how important this guideline will be, since it will determine the inclusion or exclusion of television character and television episodes. I agree with you, SoWhy, AfD hero, MichaelQSchmidt, and Townlake that it is "unnecessary rule-creep". Ikip ( talk) 14:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind words! Drmies ( talk) 20:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi S (if I may ;)),
I think that such a proposal would serve WP well. I've never been involved with a WikiProject, and don't rightly know how to go about it. How would we? We could write up a draft proposal/guideline, and put that up there somewhere? And do you know if they can be speedied? I didn't find that at WP:CSD, but I also didn't see where it says that a book can't be speedied (which was mentioned in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Urban bible). One more thing: you mentioned trade journals, and WP:JOURNAL focuses explicitly on academic journals; WP:MAGAZINE does not included "journals" at all. Where does a trade journal fall? No doubt the publisher would call it 'academic,' since that has a better reputation... Hey, thanks for the Wiki smile, and I look forward to more agreement. Drmies ( talk) 18:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I can see why you want to keep the article. You believe it is a page that is appropriate to be included in the encyclopedia. The AfD that resulted in a merge was not overturned at DRV, and so still stands. seresin ( ¡? ) 20:49, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I am continuing the discussion that started on the talk page of the above article.
You suggested that I ask for mediation in the dispute with User:Skatergal. I have already done this. If you look at her talk page you will see that two admins have asked her to come to the table, but she has ignored them. As long as this discussion does not take place, the main bone of contention ( Sindhi people) will remain unresolved and protected. In turn, she will probably continue to create POV forks like this one.
Your vote was for a merge, but that cannot happen until the other article is unprotected, which is not going to happen until a discussion begins. I could get into an edit war here, but really don't feel like it. Finally, I don't feel comfortable taking the extreme step of asking for her to be banned, because she clearly is much more knowledgable on the subject than I am.
Since you stopped by, I thought I would Shanghai you and ask for an opinion. What would you do under the circumstances? Gamesmaster G-9 ( talk) 00:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Hmm...not much response to our contribution, is there? What do we do, if anything? Take care, Drmies ( talk) 03:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi S Marshall regarding Level bomber. The book "The bomber war : Arthur Harris and the Allied bomber offensive, 1939-1945" by Robin Neillands - is it the 2001 edition and at what pages are the citations? What is the name of the Price book from 1980? One of the google sources is refering to high-level bomber ie bombs released from high altitude. --Regards, Necessary Evil ( talk) 22:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello! I am working on an objective alternate to notability in my userspace. Please read User:A Nobody/Inclusion guidelines and offer any suggestions on its talk page, which I will consider for revision purposes. If you do not do so, no worries, but if you wish to help, it is appreciated. Best, -- A Nobody My talk 01:53, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi there. Can you please check out my response at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chaotics? NuclearWarfare ( Talk) 23:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Julie Ferrier requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{
hangon}}
to the top of
the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on
the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact
one of these admins to request that they
userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.
Rtphokie (
talk)
18:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Julie Ferrier, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{ hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Rtphokie ( talk) 19:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Julie Ferrier requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{
hangon}}
to the top of
the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on
the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact
one of these admins to request that they
userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you.
Rtphokie (
talk)
19:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
If you wish to continue editing this page and possibly bring it to a notable point, please follow the instructions displayed by the db tag and add {{ hangon}} to the page rather than removing the db tag.-- Rtphokie ( talk) 19:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)