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"Hózhǫ́ǫgo Nińdoohah!"
(~ may the next winter arrive for you while beauty prevails)
...Hoozdoh Hahoodzodę́ę́ʼ
Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556
> haneʼ 1 Yas Niłtʼees 2010
...by the way, whatever happened to the suggested FA-nomination for the Urumqi-riots article? maybe I missed something... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Yepp. I think the first thing that could be done about tone is trying to find synonyms for "South Korea". Sound like a national anthem-chant. Wouldn't "the country" or "it" or whatever fit in every now and then...? :P Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag, I wanted to quickly say sincere thanks for the 2 things surrounding WGB ... the barnstar, and your comment surrounding my proposal/mentoring. I'm just trying to live by my overall philosophy about Wikipedia! ( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate your heads-up about the DYK hook. Would you mind taking a look at the various alternatives proposed here and here? Any suggestions for improvement would be greatly appreciated.
Peter Isotalo 18:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I think Coffee got that. But, taking the high road, acting above board with highly disruptive new users can deflate them. I urge you to consider that in the future before getting in a jab at AN/I. [1] Wikipedia seems to throw out welcome mats to the User:John254 sock puppet creations. -- IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 19:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Rjanag. I see you around sometimes. You do great work here, though you do not need me to tell you that. I am just stopping by your talk page to ask you if there is anything wrong with " circular links"...as long as they are far enough away from their targets? They seem to come in handy to me, as in pointing readers to spots that are not as readily (or rather not as easily) visible. Flyer22 ( talk) 00:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
anchor}}
in directly at the paragraph that's about Ben & Jen. I know I clicked on the "Bennifer" link expecting to go to an article about them, and was instead brought to a long section where I couldn't even see mention of "Bennifer" without searching it carefully.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 00:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, thanks - I didn't even realize! Now, to stick my face into the screen for a piece of that cake... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 01:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjanag,
Please reply to this message at my email address which is <snip /> even if it is just to say you have no time for me.
I have edited Wikipedia in small ways about ten times. I used to have a talk page that vanished mysteriously, so I'll give you my email address until that is sorted out. Your views on what happened to my talk page are welcome, but that is not the reason I am contacting you.
I am writing this message because you are a linguist, and I am hoping you can advise me on how to find out if I've come up with an original idea in lexicography or not. If the idea is original I may want to publish a paper about it, and/or apply for a patent. I know little about applying for patents and still less about publishing academic papers. My priority right now is to find out if my idea is original, and that is why I was hoping to contact R Hartmann.
When I stumbled on your talk page, and saw that you are a linguist and fellow Wikipedian, I thought it might be worth a try to contact you for whatever advice you can give me about how to contact experts in lexicography. I am in a remote part of Thailand right now and there are not many libraries or lexicographers here.
I am an amateur linguist.
Best regards,
Squid Pro Roe 2
PS I am also straight but not narrow - love that one-liner.
222.123.178.213 ( talk) 22:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Please read my comment under Smash Record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sxyh745 ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 6 January 2010
Hello. This is not a faulty bot; [2] most of the editors it reports need prompt blocking before their vandalism succeeds. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
You are a great guy! Thanks for being so excellent and all the help you've given me. It's surprising how much I've already forgotten since the days of editing continually. I shall definately exercise my right to vanish on the old account soon. Thanks Threewords,eightletters... ( talk) 01:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
i was just gonna add the alternative:
{| class="wikitable" style="float:left; border:1px solid grey;" |- |style="text-align:center; font-size:12px; color:#9999;"|[[File:Ürümqi riots video.ogv]]<br/>Violence captured on a witness' cell phone |}
...you're too fast. :P Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
video}}
apparently used to exist and has since been
deleted, god knows why. I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the guidelines on thumb usage at
WP:CMF#Video usage, so I've posted a message at
WT:FA#Videos and asked a couple people to comment...feel free to take a look, maybe you can see something I didn't!
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 03:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)re: "Thanks for your contribution, but this nomination is supposed to be placed on the DYK nominations page, not in the template instructions themselves. I have now done it for you. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 12:54, 7 January 2010 (UTC)"
- Do you want to nominate an article for "DYK" (link: what is a DYK?)
then:
- Go to page WW
- Click XX
- Enter into the form: a, b, and c (the rest is optional)
- Review what you have done by clicking YY
- Press the button marked ZZ to submit (link: information about what then happens)
Best regards, -- Remotelysensed ( talk) 14:03, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I definitely feel like I am being called names and taunted (webhost, troll, quack, etc.) and being attacked personally about my various, and now multiplying, userpages.
Please check on how many of the 'Delete' arguments actually refer totally to the page in question without making some negative assessment of the user, Neptunerover. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 12:12, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
So you stopped me before I could finish responding to all the arguments against me. That means you win. Aren't you proud? -
Neptunerover (
talk) 12:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Lesson received. I understand now that defending myself was against the rules. It is called "feeding the trolls," and is expressly ill advised. Sorry about my feeding all the trolls. I realise now it's not all up to me. There are plenty of trolls for all of the feeders. I didn't mean to be hog. (perhaps at first, but that was just me being selfish.) I can see that you've got things under control here, and so carry on.-- Neptunerover ( talk) 00:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
The section you removed "Chinese" from in fact referred only to Written Chinese, not any of the spoken dialects. GSMR ( talk) 17:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, Neptunerover ( talk · contribs) has circumvented your close of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Neptunerover/Theory About Everything with this edit. I have reverted it. Best, Cunard ( talk) 23:20, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
You're a good cherry picker Rjanag. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 02:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I removed the report given that you reverted. It didn't seem fair to ask for him to be blocked when he couldn't self-revert. John Smith's ( talk) 01:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
The IP users are still editing without gaining consensus first. Can you step in, put it back as it was before and make it clear we're going to resolve this without editing the page (e.g. sandbox) first? John Smith's ( talk) 23:13, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm afraid you deleted more than you should have when you deleted an entire page of mine without giving adequate reasons for why you deleted everything you deleted. Please return that which should not have been deleted in your frenzy of deletion. I had something I called "another talk page" where I put Q&As from reference and help desks. I admit I accidentally moved the wrong thing there, but when I try to undo it, I still cannot get my proper page back. Please return that which you should not have deleted so that I may continue. I have more help desk answers that I need to keep in mind. If I am storing those things in a wrong manner, then could you please help me by instructing me on how I should go about storing the answers to my many questions. Thanks. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 04:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Is it acceptable for the closing administrator to take part in a deletion debate such as occurred here? -- Neptunerover ( talk) 06:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you'd deleted the page I had just created. Could you give me a link to the discussion page it was discussed to be deleted on, or give me resons for its deletion the first time it was created. Is it not notable etc. Thanks Kitchen roll ( talk) 15:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
You may be interested to know that 76.14.42.191 had the following to say about you.
As I said, here are six recent editors who support inclusion of the material, and you are the only one taking it out:
editor four, who reverted your removal, to keep: [4]
I've tried to tell him that you've already indicated you did not express support for the inclusion of the material, but I doubt he'll listen. John Smith's ( talk) 14:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey Rjanag, sorry about all the obstinance. I discovered the rule that applied to me and made sense as far as what people were complaining about without being able to explain to me what I was doing wrong. (those darn 'others') I've become email verified, and if you could send me the deleted crap, I would consider that perhaps almost too kind of you at this point, so let me know what you think. Thanks. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 17:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
You have to admit though, that question was 'suspect' from the start. I played AGF good cop and let the sock puppet show itself, and then Steve nailed it. I think the only personal attack I may have done was in labeling the sock puppet as a schizoid, and that was way after it was gone. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 07:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
( archived early) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag. I must ask you to desist from hounding and personal attacks. This has gone much too far. These are core polcies in Wikipedia and as an admin you should know better. Any further incidents and I shall have to make a formal report. NBeale ( talk) 07:23, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
( archived early) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 07:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to
attack other editors, as you did on
xkcd. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the
welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Starblueheather (
talk •
contribs) 19:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
([ http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Rjanag&diff=340776371&oldid=340772468 archived early) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 20:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello Rjanag, for some reason I don't quite understand, the "<b class="Unicode">" tag in your sig causes your name to be displayed as a blank on my computer (Firefox 3.0 on Ubuntu 8.4). Omitting the "class" attribute solves the issue for me. I don't know why this is or whether other users are affected by the same problem. Would you consider modifying the sig? Thanks, -- Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag. Thank you for taking trouble over the Nicholas Beale AfD. But as you now know, the analysis of the sources you posted, however much in good faith, contains serious errors and mis-statements and is influencing the debate, due to your hard-earned reputation as an Admin. I must respectfully ask you, per WP:BLP and your responsibilites as an Admin, to retract these errors and to do what you can to nullify the harm that they have done. Many thanks. NBeale ( talk) 10:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to add some new fields to Template:Infobox_ship_begin but I forgot where they hide the code. Any chance you could point me to the right page so I can fiddle around with a copy of the code in my sandbox? I seem to recall you helped me out with this one other time. Thanks, Gatoclass ( talk) 11:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
For the record, your deletion of Matheus Lundberg was inappropriate, we don't delete articles just because they're not in English, they should be listed at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English and either deleted if they're inappropriate, or kept for two weeks to see if someone translates it, then listed for deletion. I'm not going to say restore it, but I find it strange that as an administrator you're unaware of the accepted practices for such a situation-- Jac16888 Talk 22:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Erasing everything doesn't help with pinpointing the problem. Do certain words frighten you. Fear is very understandable. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 01:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I own a bunch of these hats, but I don't know what they are called. Doppa sounds Persian and Tubeteika definitely does not. It sounds more Turkish. I think the difference is that the Tubeteika is round and the Doppa is squarish, which I think can be folded up. I've seen them both all over Central Asia. I bet there are many different types and names, so I wouldn't merge the articles just based on name, unless someone else can verify they are the same thing. Ask User:Otebig. He studied Kazakh. He might know. User:Xhancock might also know. They are both IU graduate students. David Straub ( talk) 04:41, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I gather with this, you were attempting to make an optional title, perhaps defaulting to "Extended content" if not filled in. Unfortunately, it seems that the title is not optional. With or without substitution, it now centers {{{title}}} if no parameter is supplied.
Extended content
|
---|
Are you able to fix that so that "Extended content" continues to show if a title is not specified? I would if I could, but I'm afraid that templates are not my thing. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
|title=
parameter (since previously it only worked with a numbered parameter, e.g. {{
collapse top|Stuff}}
rather than {{
collapse top|title=stuff}}
. Anyway, I just added a pipe which should (hopefully) fix it.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 16:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I raised the issue before Beale did as I say on the talk page. Also, if you believe I have vested interest in Beale, I can send an e-mail to you to verify my real identity. Common sense is a good thing, but some tightening of the sentence to avoid future misunderstandings would make sense, don't you think? Vesal ( talk) 13:01, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
-- Epeefleche ( talk) 18:18, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah. I see what you mean. Bearian ( talk) 02:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
adminstats}}
doesn't have helpful instructions up, but basically I think you just put {{
adminstats|Bearian}}
on your userpage and then the bot will create your stats. Once your stats are created (should be at
Template:Adminstats/Bearian) then you could just copy them to
User:Rjanag/adminbars/Bearian in a fashion similar to mine.{{
adminstats|Bearian}}
on your userpage{{User:Rjanag/adminbars/core |edits= |ed= |created= |deleted= |restored= |blocked= |protected= |unprotected= |rights= |reblock= |modify= |user={{SUBPAGENAME}}}} {{show|Admin stats|{{Template:Adminstats/Bearian}}}}
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The Working Man's Barnstar |
The Working Man's Barnstar may be awarded to those who work tirelessly and endlessly on the more laborious or repetitive of Wikipedia tasks.
This barnstar is awarded to Rjanag, for his efforts in cleaning up redirects and other thankless tasks. On behalf of the Wikipedia community. Thank you. Ikip 09:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC) |
Nah, man, no problem. "These disagreements have sometimes led to violence and ethnic clashes, such as the 1997 Ghulja Incident and the 2008 Kashgar attack, as well as the more widespread 2008 Uyghur unrest preceding the Olympic Games in Beijing." No cite for that sentence. Thanks and good luck :) Aaroncrick ( talk) 21:28, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment on my talk page. It's taken ages to reply, sorry; I've been really busy as of late. I know this is taking your words more literally than meant, but when you say "it is what separates the (wo)men from the beasts" it makes me wonder if other animals that feel love actually get such feelings. I think they probably do. Apes are genetically close to us so I'm guessing they do. Something I now want to reaserch one day. :) Threewords,eightletters... ( talk) 05:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Dabomb87 ( talk) 13:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Your suggestion would be welcome as to how to present something fair and citable. There is a very caustic quote from Pullum in this Elements of Style wikipedia entry - if you look around the web, you'll see it's not necessarily shared by everyone, and indeed it is not. I have merely cited one of numerous examples of someone (who happens to be an English professor of many years, whether notable to you or not) who doesn't share it and his well-reasoned opinion as to why, followed by the numerous opinions of others in the blod entry
I am welcome to any language you can put in which accurately reflects this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.145.123 ( talk) 16:03, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Why did you remove well-referenced information with this edit? And cite some unknown Chinese phrase as the reason for doing so. What does 填鸭子 mean, by the way? If there is some reliable source for China offering a liberal education in its schools, please cite it. If you feel the information from the New York Times is over-simplified, please try to do better, but please don't remove well-sourced information. Fred Talk 22:24, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you have simply thrown a list of references to Chinese education up without pointing out any information from a reliable source which contradicts or negates the information in the Times article. Fred Talk 15:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
You are welcome to snoop around the Ministry of Education website, which contains a whole lot of materials (but it's not well-organized, so things are hard to find). For example, this summary of higher education illustrates how much they are concerned with improving teaching quality and teaching methods (which in turn reflects an interest in improving education quality, although I guess an argument could be made that they're really just interested in finding methods to cram even more knowledge into the duck without teaching critical thinking...but, in my humble opinion, that's not likely)."(2) undergraduate education should enable students to systematically master the basic theory and basic knowledge necessary for the respective discipline and specialty, master the basic skills, techniques and related know-how necessary for the respective specialty and acquire initial capability for the practical work and research work of the respective specialty;"
Just below that quote it also mentions suzhi jiaoyu, or "character education"/"all-around education". This is an important concept; if you read any Chinese articles about education you will encounter it all over the place (素质教育). Sometimes it is used to mean something that is not really the same as critical thinking (for example, improving someones' "moral character"), but often it does refer to critical thinking skills, which the government recognizes are essential if it wants to become an economic powerhouse that doesn't rely so much on exports (i.e., if they want to thrive in the consumer economy and information/services economy, rather than just in manufacturing). The very existence of such a term, and the amount it gets thrown around, is yet another bit of evidence that education is not just all about job skills. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 16:34, 28 January 2010 (UTC)"Even as American educators seek to emulate Asian pedagogy — a test-centered ethos and a rigorous focus on math, science and engineering — Chinese educators are trying to blend a Western emphasis on critical thinking, versatility and leadership into their own traditions."
Yup, I saw, I was expecting Tim to take care of it ;) It looks like there's been some other activity there, and its currently endorsed. Let me know if you need anything else from me. Nathan T 18:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello - what offense has the latest attempt to edit generated? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.144.40 ( talk) 22:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
See my latest - thanks.
So, there's no way to engage in a chat huh?
favor? close it (withdrawn) per WP:WHATEVER Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
oldafdfull}}
to the talk page). I've certainly withdrawn and closed several of my own AfDs before.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 05:59, 29 January 2010 (UTC)So, which name would you prefer? kwami ( talk) 02:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Cantonese (Yue)
) is that it doesn't even state clearly what the article is about, and it doesn't clearly distinguish it from the article about the prestige dialect (currently called Cantonese
). As I probably said in one of the other discussions, the term is parentheses is usually read as a disambiguator: i.e., in an article titled [[X (y)]]
, the interpretation is "this article is about something called X, falling under the category of y". It's not clear how "Yue" is a category that the article falls under in this sense, and it's certainly now clear how the article Cantonese
doesn't also fit here. Along the same lines, to a reader just looking at the title "Cantonese (Yue)" and not seeing the content yet, it's not immediately clear that this article is going to be about the language family and not the specific variety.Cantonese (language family)
–Cantonese (dialect)
, or Cantonese (language)
–Standard Cantonese
; other options are Yue Chinese
–Cantonese language
, Yue Chinese
–Standard Cantonese
, etc.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 15:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)Do let me know if you have any concerns about my copyedits. I am just trying to get the text to flow a little better; please feel free to revert any and all edits which you feel aren't a clear improvement. Best, -- JN 466 23:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Since I'm involved and you're more experienced with this stuff, could you take a look at the history of Special Force Online and take any admin action necessary? Shubinator ( talk) 07:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
In response to your question here, I would say yes to it. The discussion I was mentioning was at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films/Archive 26#WP:FILMRELEASE. Hope that clears it up. Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Just created Vietnamese numerals. Will expand a bit more later (I'm hungry), but might need some copyediting if possible. Thanks. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 04:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Translation from ZH is now 100% complete. Skipped the Yan Emperor stuff because I couldn't really put it into context on an English page. Plus, my Classical Chinese is still horrible. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 14:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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File:Uyghur protest Berlin, July 2009 2.jpg and
File:Uyghur protest Berlin, July 2009 3.jpg are up for deletion on Commons. This is because when you uploaded them, you said that you were sending a permission email to permissions-commonswikimedia.org, but the email was never received. The images will be deleted after 15 days unless a valid permission is received.
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If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{
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IngerAlHaosului (
talk) 13:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello Rjanag, I noticed you reverted the edits by the ip address on the Perry Meridian High School article. I was also going to revert the edits, but checked out the links provided and thought I would just try to add them in a more proper manner. Although I am not sure that it's correct, I put them as references for the subjects the ip editor tried to link to. I wasn't trying to undo your reverts, but in the process I did re-insert the links. DD2K ( talk) 01:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Did some communication happen over e-mail, or on another wiki, to warrant this user's unblock? So far, he has used his account pretty much entirely for self-promotional editing and multi-project spam, so I'm not sure what benefit there could be in unblocking him unless he's given you a clear statement of what he intends to do here. (If he has done so that's fine; I just wanted to ask.) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:18, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello Rjanag. Recently I've been trying to improve the article Economy of South Korea. I was originally working on it a couple months ago trying to clean up the heavily biased and poorly written introduction. Lately my edits continue to be reverted by user Softjuice, and just recently, user Alohahell. An excessive number of unrelated images are also in the article. I've tried to raise discussion on the discussion page, but instead get accused of vandalism. I'm not a heavy Wikipedia editor, I just stick to a few occasional topics I'm interested in and try to improve what I see that looks really poor. So perhaps I am wrong. I ask for help with you because you've worked on this article before, and it seems you've dealt with these two users before as well. So you probably know how to go about this better than I do. I also would like to note that two other former accounts (Tnaniua and Tankiona) have somewhat similar edit histories, and have both done similar reverts to this article, although they could just be entirely unrelated. Please let me know what you think, and what I should do. Anawrahta ( talk) 16:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I replied on my talk page. Ucucha 18:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Rjanag, I noticed that you warned Alohahell ( talk · contribs)'s possible copyvio images, and I totally agree with the concern. My gut feeling tells me that most of images that he uploaded do not look like taken by him. Do you know how to nominate his images for deletion in a bundle case? -- Caspian blue 04:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
"Britishizing"? LMAO Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 06:19, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Just a heads up - if an article does not pass at WP:FAC, the next peer review is supposed to wait two weeks after the close of the FAC, the idea being this gives time to address the issues which led to the article not passing at FAC. I wonder if an RfC would be better for establishing consensus on neutrality? A successful PR might only have one reviewer, but an RfC should attract many users. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 14:55, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
>> ?? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 09:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Firstly, I'm pleased to meet you. It has been great to see you working on the various Uyghur language-related articles, and I hope I will get to know you better. Secondly, I don't know if it is custom here on Wikipedia to give thanks, but I noticed you have awarded me a barnstar, so this is what I'm going to do: thank you, I'm just glad I'm able to contribute with something. -- Llonydd ( talk) 17:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I have recently expanded the article. Please look over with your expert knowledge and make any corrections needed. How many words do you count? Would it qualify now with enough prose words to qualify as a resubmitted normal DYK (not Valentine)?-- Doug Coldwell talk 19:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The article you created is not substantially different than the one that was deleted, so it cannot be used. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 20:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
我的英语不好,所以用汉语回复您。
无论如何,谢谢您。对您投的反对票,我能理解。-- ZHU Yeyi ( talk) 18:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I saw you edited the page there. The subject was created by ZHU Yeyi who is the only other one who appears to be writing the page. I've gotten the page deleted here and at the Spanish Wikipedia, and it is being considered for deletion at the French Wikipedia. Perhaps you can list the page for AFD at zh?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 05:11, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I know the policy is not about content of tables. Since this is a policy article, I am adding a few pointers of advice to the guideline. I plan to move it to a more general name, such as, wikipedia:tables. 174.3.98.236 ( talk) 08:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
[7] (Seems to be some convergence in fields of interest between us. The former linguists-student keeps creeping up in me, even though I switched to art years ago... :P) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 01:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I love how you assume things. You're a very funny user.
I'm just removing stuff that doesn't have citation and is obviously an opinionated comment by a PC gamer that has a agenda against consoles. I suggest you pay more attention. Sourside21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sourside21 ( talk • contribs) 07:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and so much for deleting this message without a response, am I right? Guess you were wrong, again... Sourside21
Rjanag, I've added a summary of the lyrics at the beginning of the "Lyrics and meaning" section. I think having a broad overview of the "storyline" will help the reader get a better feel for how the text could acquire other meanings than the literal one. Please have a look. I've adjusted some of the following content in the section accordingly, and moved the sentence on the phrase having no grammatical subject. I think it works. :) -- JN 466 11:38, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Another thing -- I've read/heard in several places that Cui Jian used to wear the the red blindfold when singing "A Piece of Red Cloth", rather than "Nothing to my Name"; specifically when performing at Tiannamen Square (e.g. [8], by Cui Jian himself, or [9]). Apart from Matusitz, none of the sources we cite seems all too definite on this point. I am wondering if Matusitz is wrong. -- JN 466 12:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I apologize for the typo: "interchangeable" should of course have been "interchangeably." I thought you'd appreciate the replacement of blogs with printed sources, for instance, and I trust that you agree there was a need for copyedits; that wasn't a very nice edit summary you left me. Please don't take me for a drive-by tagger. Thank you again. Dr Aaij ( talk) 02:45, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Rjanag. If you have a moment, can you warn Jpatokal ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) as an admin for his highly inappropriate slander including racist attack and WP:Harassment against me? At Joseon Dynasty and Emperor Gojong of the Korean Empire, a new user named Gavinhudson ( talk · contribs) inserted sources which include a commercial site that does not show anything about the book along with an unreliable source. After some discussion with the new user yesterday, the matter was well resolved between him and me.
However, the new user did not restore his edit to Joseon Dynasty and Jpatokal restored the new edit with an accusation against me of not assuming good faith. Another editor reverted his edit. The two editor did not seem to know about the discussion between me and Gavinhudson and Jpatokal reverted again (thus edit warred). Except the AGF accusation and a need for clarification about the content, I had no problem with Jpatokal's restoration. As Jpatokal opened a discussion at Talk:Joseon_Dynasty#Life_expectancy, I civilly explained the situation and my stance. However, Jpatokal suddenly visited Gavinhudson with clearly ill-faith to slander me. [10] I consider his such inappropriate canvassing is not only a personal and racist attack (liberal dose of kimchi), and WP:Harassment. I've seen the user did the same thing elsewhere. So I think a strong admonishment from an admin would prevent him from repeating such ill behavior. Thanks.-- Caspian blue 15:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at WP:ANI#User:Jpatokal - racial slur and harassment regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Jpatokal ( talk · contribs)'s disruptive personal attacks that require administrators' attention. Thank you. -- Caspian blue 04:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
The current version of the guideline has be reverted. I hope you can help me gather consensus on the disputed versions of the guideline. 174.3.98.236 ( talk) 17:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, please don't ever don't do something like this again. If you were aware enough to say "shouldn't be reproduced anywhere" then surely you're aware enough that this is not fair-use. Every-bloody-thing published at Wikipedia gets the GFDL and CC-BY licenses, but the failures will get pinned to one single editor, namely you. I'm rather surprised Rjanag, we commented together at the FAC discussion on incorporation of PD/free text but now I see you (apparently) blatantly violating copyright protection. Is this a reaction to that previous discussion? Or am I missing something? Either way, there seems to be a misunderstanding that needs to be resolved. Franamax ( talk) 00:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag - I’ve just completed drafting my first WP essay in my user space: Creating A Better List. As of yet it is not linked anywhere except through the {{Essay}} template. My ultimate objective is to move this essay to the project space, but at this point, that is premature without some feedback from fellow editors. As such I would appreciate your opinion on the essay, especially on two points. 1) Have I made any statements contradictory to WP policy or guidelines? 2) Are there additional examples that could be included to demonstrate my points more effectively?
Thanks in advance for your review and feel free to make any editorial changes you think would enhance the essay. Please provide comments here, as I am asking several editors to comment and would like to keep them all in the same place.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that you went through and added a 'section' parameter to various character templates. THis parameter doesn't seem to do anything (there's no equivalent on the underlying 'special chars' template) - what is it meant for? -- Ludwigs2 04:18, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
SpecialChars}}
as of
2 hours ago. I made it so the template would make sense in places like
Diglossia#Arabic.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 04:20, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I've struck my motion to close on grounds that you have now cited grounds for the FAR. Whatever happens, I wish you luck in pursuing the FAR. Its editors like you that help ensure that FAR standards are maintained, and for that I am grateful. TomStar81 ( Talk) 00:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag has changed the correct "athletic directors" to the incorrect "athletics directors." This is my first encounter with Rjanag. He may be British, in which case "athletics" is sometimes heard. In the United States (where I have been editing for nearly forty years) it is "athletic director." And the article title in Wikipedia is "Athletic director," so some other Wikipedia editor than Rjanag got it right. Google Search has the margin 10 to 1 in favor of "athletic" (2,560,000 to 263,000). It's equally lopsided in Google News (8,760 to 1,096). Elsewhere, Rjanag has removed my "leading American schools" -- which was a neutral, necessary, descriptive, definitive cultural shorthand -- in articles about the members of a body of, well, *leading* American schools. Again, it's a question of editorial or cultural "ear," as well as age and professional experience. "Leading schools" is an ancient term and locution, often emanating from headmasters' conferences (especially in the UK), but also often encountered in writing about schools, education, education history, in school directories, in journalism, in descriptions of school associations, and so forth. If eight of the most famous prep schools in the United States compose what Andover's "The Phillipian" has characterized as a "mirror of the Ivy League," then the innocuous phrase "group of leading American schools" is not only permissible, it is necessary, a definer, a describer, a clarifier. Rjanag may work tirelessly in Wikipedia, clearing out the undergrowth. But he doesn't know everything about everything, and in some areas he should try to learn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Micheldene ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Your very first message to me, a person unknown to you, was titled "Warring" (a concept I'd never heard of) and was itself worse than condescending. It was reactionary, bullying, preremptory and, given your howler about "athletic director," wrong. You demanded to know why I was everywhere undoing your work. I don't know about "undoing." I don't "undo" individual Wikipedia contributors. You were wrong about "athletic director" and you're wrong about the conventional, formulaic, innocuous, and often necessary phrase "leading schools." When you begin to understand that idiomatic fact, I'll change my present opinion that you're incredibly thin-skinned about editorial disagreement. (Incidentally, there isn't enough good writing in Wikipedia for you to be chasing off the professional writers you accidentally attract.) Now, let's start over, beginning with your apology for the bullying tone of that initial message to me. Micheldene ( talk) 05:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
During all my time as a patroller I have never encountered the tradition that warnings are only given "per spurt of vandalism". Could I please get an elaboration about what you are trying to achieve here? Also the account is clearly a vandalism-only account, I fail to see the constructiveness in your attempt at prolonging the existence of this account on Wikipedia. -- Saddhiyama ( talk) 16:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Your edit is being discussed here. -- NeilN talk to me 05:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Get a grip man. My edit was perfectly proper. I don't have to discuss edits with you; nobody died and made you head of the wikipedia. The edit was not even controversial except in your head.
If you bother to read WP:LEAD guideline this is the style that leads are supposed to follow wherever possible.
In fact, it's unbelievably clear policy, WP:NAD says (and I did not write this bit):
"However, sometimes, a Wikipedia article (particularly stubs) will be badly written. Its introduction will say something such as "Dog is a term for an animal with the binomial name Canis lupus." or "Dog is a word that refers to a domesticated canine.". Such articles are not dictionary articles. They are badly written encyclopedia articles, that should be cleaned up in accordance with our Guide to writing better articles. Simply replace the cumbersome phrasings such as "is a term for", "is a word that means", "refers to", with the very simple "is": "A dog is an animal with the binomial name Canis lupus." "A dog is a domesticated canine."
It's all there, you just haven't read it.- Wolfkeeper 05:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Just in case you didn't know, comments in edit summaries are seen as more problematic than comments in text because they are part of the server logs and can only be removed by WP:OVERSIGHT. This is not always appreciated, so you're not the first to be bitten by this (as I was myself). Guy ( Help!) 10:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjanag, if wiki should became a valuable resource of proved information you should also let research work have done. Who knows, that all other quoted sources are verified, if you don't let have them checked by someone. I am tired of adding my corrections to the article again and again. I cannot do more, then adding valuable sources and research. Please give me a concrete advice, proved by academics, that adding the 2 footnotes and the one sentence is incorrect. Since you mentioned my both IP addresses, yes, I am working not always on the same place, sorry, and I also do not have time for endless discussions in this so called "Talk Page". Do you really want to protect the Entropa entry from verified sources? Then I must say, I am very sorry for wiki and you should have let checked all the sources by a wiki watch man to verify all entries including footnotes. Thank you 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 15:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I think that you are holding back and censoring verified sources on Wiki entries. 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 15:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I know, that I made formal mistakes in communication, but I did not have time to check all the rules of wiki how to make entries and communicate them. I am very sorry for this, since I am a normal user and no computer freak. I cannot do more then apologize. And since all this procedure was already cosuming too much time, I think I have to give up. Thank you for your kind help and support. 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 16:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I did not think, that I have to apologize, because my intention was good, but just I did not understand all the warnings. And I did apologize before above. Now I really cannot follow this anymore, I have also other things to do. Thank you. 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 16:37, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
And I am not going to lead a public talk to someone about this anymore. It was just, that I did not have time to read carefully the instructions on how to react on the history of an article. I am sorry, but what can I do, now it's too late. And I think, I also don't know now how to use a discussion section on Wiki and doing things wrong and posting things wrong. Have a good day! 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 16:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
If a user expanded a new article (still within it's first five days) from a stub not eligible for DYK due to it's length, can that author who has the overwhelming bulk of the edits list himself as that article's author when nominating it for DYK even if he did not create that page?-- Supertouch ( talk) 23:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
|expander=
. But it doesn't really matter, the credits given out are all the same.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 23:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
For this. I never got around to updating that number, so it's good that you stepped in. Cheers, Dabomb87 ( talk) 13:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello. Please be aware that I have opened an RfC about the conduct of PCPP ( talk · contribs).-- Asdfg 12345 01:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you explain to me what is going on there? You say have protected the article due to a content dispute, and yet you have only semi-protected it. Essentially, whether intentionally or not, you have used your adminship to take sides in the content dispute (by preventing only the anonymous editor from editing). This is the reason that {{ pp-dispute}} doesn't work on semi-protected articles, I believe. In addition, you yourself seem to be one of the ones engaged in the content dispute, so it appears you shouldn't have been acting as an administrator there anyway. Dominic· t 09:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
You have mail. Cheers - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 12:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Respectfully, in the interests of our mutual understanding of what is appropriate/inappropriate, and of defending myself against your characterization in the edit summary, I'm a little confused about your characterization of my summary as "jabs" and of JB50000 as defenseless. While the infractions outlined in that RfE were part of the block, they were not the whole of the block, and I suppose because of the technicality that official warnings were required, the real last straw was for offenses that are not mentioned at the RfC, the stealth canvassing/ campaigning and the fact (not to mention temerity) that he would go so far as to ask the administrator who was telling him that he wasn't being tag-teamed against that the admin join him in tag-teaming against others. Is it not appropriate to note the further step taken that was the straw that broke the camel's back?
Would you clarify what parts of that post were these plural jabs, as opposed to a neutral summary? Respectfully, it seems like a jab at me, to suggest that my brief summary of the blockable offense of a habitual offender (again, not a recap of the whole thing, but an acknowledgement of what wasn't already a part of the RfE) was an attack on a defenseless person. As I merely encapsulated the posts at his talk page in the official block explanation, the defense would be to allege that they are untrue or unfair, and the block unwarranted, not my brief acknowledgement of them in the note here. My only characterizations that did not appear in the block itself were my positive observations of the admin (exceptional amount of goodwill and patience; helpfully).
Finally, if my wording was too much, might it not be that yours is too little?
I'll watch this page for your response. Thanks for your help with my understanding of these matters, Abrazame ( talk) 01:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, just a little suggested tweak, I've noticed the string {{-}}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line--> appears right below the rest of the output, so that a lot of people ignore it and post below the string. Any chance you could leave some whitespace between the string and the rest of the output? That way I wouldn't have to keep moving the string to the right place :) Gatoclass ( talk) 11:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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The Refdesk Barnstar
Your answer was exactly what I needed; you deserve this! DRosenbach ( Talk |
Hello. Just per your warning on my talk page, I wasn't trying to "spin" anything related to my editing - as I've noted, I stopped editing on the article once I hit my third reversion. I haven't tried to defend my edits or reversions (simply saying "I want less information, he wants more"). I don't want to be a WP:DICK here, but to say you'll give me a warning instead of a block, when I've only made five edits on the article since June of last year (all of which were today - three of which were reversions and hence within 3RR) seems a bit over zealous. As I said on WP:ANI, Cliché's attitude was the reason I brought it there, the 3RR/article issues were very much a side point. Don't feel like you have to reply, just wanted to say it. Thanks! Fin © ™ 18:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
The Daily Journal no longer exists in Venezuela, therefore the Correo del Orinoco International is the only English-language newspaper in Venezuela and the first created during the Chavez administration and the XXIst Century. This is not a lie. ˜˜˜˜ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evagolinger1 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
the problem I had a few weeks ago surfaces repeatedly. the person uses a changing IP and slaps warning-templates around, bite newcomers from the get go. Now s/he reports another user at ANI, whining about Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Anti-IP_bias. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 07:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. Apparently this editor has this thing about wanting to remain an anon-IP, according to the talk page. I suspect it is so that he or she can avoid being disciplined for his or her actions. The sad thing is that this editor has done a fair amount of useful stuff on new pages and the like, but tends to throw warning tags around like a new football referee out to let everyone know he's on the field. - Realkyhick ( Talk to me) 07:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey Rjanag. I cut and pasted and then modified. I find the dyk formating confusing, to say the least. Did I mess up? Ceoil sláinte 08:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you for your careful copyedits. You probably put Adam Scriveyn to shame. Drmies ( talk) 05:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC) |
Hehehe. Thanks! rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 05:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
<--I was hoping to give you a present (by removing a cn-tag and replacing with a cite) but was unable to do so. Instead, I had to settle for this. I noticed there are two different citation formats, and I stuck with the templates I always use--I hope that's OK with you, and the article isn't consistent anyway. Happy days! Drmies ( talk) 13:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. It was just a typo mistake. Tintor2 ( talk) 15:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, do you remember last weekend when vandal/xbox fanboy Falcon9x5 came in the Ferrari Challenge (video game) article i was editing, nobody edited it since 2008 when i came up to clean it up, to add infos and then Falcon9x5 popped in the same day and removed my informations from the article starting an edit war (he did it before coming in articles i edit) then reporting me to the administrators noticeboard trying to get a ban on me so he could follow his detestable agenda. now i caught him adding negative and false claims on a playstation 3 title then removing negative but true facts in another article. this editor is known for, shorts, insignificant edits, he mostly removes informations added by other editors using his personal interpretation of WP:GAMECRUSH and following an obvious agenda. i already saw him following my contributions and reverting my edits in articles. basically he promotes the xbox360 games and gives negative view to playstation 3 games which is the rival console. for example in the Final Fantasy XIII article, he first added a 576p native resolution to the playstation 3 version -basically this means the ps3 version does not support HD 720p but a much lower quality SD 576p- here [11]. then an other editor corrected this false claim, adding xbox360 to the 576p resolution, which is a known and sourced fact. hence the ps3 version was 720p and xbox360 was 576p. so Falcon9x5 came back and removed the resolution infos -while it was him who added it in the first place as a negative aspect of the ps3 version- just because the truth was the ps3 version had actually a better quality, ps3 was 720p and xbox was 576p, then he removed the native resolution!! as simple as that, this is blatant vandalism. he does this often but now i caught him the hand in the honey pot, removing content like this is blatant vandalism, he is a vandal and an xbox360 fanboy indeed (admitedly he don't own a ps3 - but he edits ps3 article with negative infos...). (576 w/source; +eg review) - (rm unsourced 576p 360; asia release nn on en wiki; chinese trad release not for lead). thanks for holding an eye on this "editor". Cliché Online ( talk) 22:09, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Kindly note the WP:AE case above has just been filed. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 05:50, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the image file change. I hadn't realized that we couldn't use them. -- H E L LØ Ŧ H E R E 04:21, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the reminded, I myself forgot how long I have been here :D-- Truco 503 03:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Could you please assist with
User talk:Alefbe#Alefbe Deletions without discussions from bunch of articles
Thanks
Intothefire (
talk) 11:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
When you move a page, like you did at IGN, please make sure you also move the talk page. That's often difficult, because you can't automatically delete a talk page using Special:MovePage when moving a page. I fixed it now; I'm sure you'll be able to do it yourself next time. :) Ucucha 02:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your helpful input, at page Talk:No worries. Much appreciated, -- Cirt ( talk) 00:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag. Please desist from this coordinated wikihounding. I Robert May and the next edit is a vist from you - you have never edited the page AFAIK before. 2 days later your confederate SlimVirgin comes to attack the John Polkinghorne page, which she has never edited before, removing much of the information about his scientific career. When I object, you are immediately on the talk page of an article AFAIK you have never edited supporting Slim and trashing me. This is blatant hounding and COI editing. Please stop. NBeale ( talk) 10:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
( archived early)
...it appears that you also have at least one co-nom, if desired. Probably a few others that would volunteer for that too (if you want names, e-mail me!) I guess there's no better time to go through it :-) ( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 23:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Should I remove this response? I truly feel he's going down some kind of WP:SOAP path, but I'm WP:AGFing and responding politely ... ( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:15, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
You make a good point about using clinical terms. However, it seems like some characterization is in order. 'Sociopathic' has a meaning outside of a professional or clinical context and it's good English to use the word in that way. As a native speaker myself, Chigurh's lack of conscience seems to open the possibility of describing him that way accurately. (I wouldn't base anything on the book either way.) Perhaps it would be useful to propose an alternative. Sometimes the facts don't speak for themselves so we use summaries / characterizations. Thanks. -- Ring Cinema ( talk) 17:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
That would be nice but it seems that a summary is allowed. We don't have a problem saying many summary things about him (he's a man, a murderer, relentless, an embodiment of evil, etc.). I'm wondering if the line you're drawing isn't a bit artificial. 'Sociopathic' is a word in English that we should feel free to use correctly like any other. In fact, think of it this way: is there any evidence that he's not sociopathic? -- Ring Cinema ( talk) 00:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Do you consider this section to be even relevant to the main topic? I interpret this as someone trying to spread the heated dispute argument onto another article. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 00:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Back in July 2009 you moved Uyghur captives in Guantanamo to Uyghur detainees in Guantanamo. You didn't initiate a discussion of this move prior to the move. Your only explanation for your move was in your edit summary, where you asserted the previous title lapsed from WP:NPOV. I assume this was a good faith mistake, but, as I tried to explain at the requested moves page, it is actually the use of the term "detainee" that lapses from WP:NPOV. Geo Swan ( talk) 15:04, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
NativeForeigner Talk/ Contribs/ Vote! 02:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
see talk page for South Korea Kingj123 ( talk) 04:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
see what I put on talk page. I have already read the discussion in the past, actually if you have read it at all I was the participant of the discussion. Thanks. -- Kingj123 ( talk) 04:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, READ THE ARCHIVE, the new post I have just made is for new people like you.-- Kingj123 ( talk) 04:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
well I feel the same. -- Kingj123 ( talk) 04:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I assume that this is meant in a derogatory fashion? -- 194.81.33.9 ( talk) 13:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I seem to recall that you can read Japanese. Any chance you could review the "Perverted Criminal" nom at DYK suggestions? Gatoclass ( talk) 19:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm really sorry about that. I installed a package in my vector.js that doesn't work well with Chrome (my browser) and I think that's what prompted that error. I've never seen that happen before. UBER (talk) 06:16, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
see talk page-- Kingj123 ( talk) 13:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your cleanup! I've worked hard for years to make this article better, your edit was spot on, something I had not thought of and am surprised I didn't. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) ( talk) 02:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Since I might be biased here, I'm seeking your input: look at the edit history if White South African and tell me whether or not words like "spurious" are NPOV. I just gave a 3RR to [12] to Rgherbert ( talk · contribs), but don't want to revert again. thanks. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 06:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
You should honestly just delete it. It seems that ZHU Yeyi is using multiple accounts to try to sway the discussion at this point and the French Wikipedia user Yug has no idea what he is talking about.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 19:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear friend:
How to complain? 如何投诉?Comment porter plainte?
M. Ryulong systematically attacked me.
Today, he even thinks that an IP China IP and Europe are my two Sockpuppets. Thank you. -- ZHU Yeyi ( talk) 19:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
请教您,怎样投诉。投诉人身攻击 personal attack。 How to complain? Please. 如何投诉?Comment porter plainte? 谢谢。 -- ZHU Yeyi ( talk) 18:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I've sent you an email. regards, -- Quiddity ( talk) 19:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I feel responsible for bringing the invalidity of the sentence element page to your attention. It needs to go somewhere besides null or an unattainable place on someone's hard drive. I've been making amateur steps at citing sources in an attempt of saving that page. Please bear with me. I've been using other Wikipedia pages as source citing examples. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.40.202.134 ( talk) 16:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
You are a great guy! Thanks for being so excellent. Kingj123 ( talk) 02:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
... uhm ok. See talk page.-- Kingj123 ( talk) 02:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I know it's a little late but thanks for your happy birthday message on my talk page. It was really nice of you. -- Patrice58 ( talk) 13:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
How do I enter Hong Kong Government Cantonese Romanisation?? Hoising ( talk) 12:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
{{
zh}}
. You can enter it using {{
zh-full}}
instead. It would look something like this:{{zh-full | {{zh-chinese|你好}} | {{zh-hkgov|<romanization here>}} }}
Why did you delete this person's edit request? Celestra ( talk) 21:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
What is the reason? As far as I can see, their only function is to clutter up the suggestions page. Ucucha 00:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
{{-}}
, which creates a bunch of unnecessary whitespace and lengthens the page.
rʨanaɢ (
talk) 00:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Regarding Talk:Linguistics: That article has been semi-protected for almost a year (May 2009). Perhaps we could try unprotecting it? Unless Supriyya is still being a problem elsewhere...
Regarding notdict, the discussion isn't going well. I'll try my hardest to ignore it until next week, unless you advise otherwise...
Thanks again. -- Quiddity ( talk) 22:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello-
I've edited most of the viral video page now. I was working on it this morning when I realized that there are two glaring issues that need to be addressed. One is the "History" section. In it there are two consecutive paragraphs that repeat the same information, mainly about the "Dancing Baby" video. The third sentence of the second paragraph also contains the same info, namely that early viral videos were spread by email, since YouTube etc didn't yet exist. The only new info in the second paragraph refers to "Tunak Tunak Tun" and "All your base are belong to us" - two sentences.
There's also another problem, which is that there are ten (10) examples of viral videos in the lead. It's way too much for a lead. There are more examples of viral videos in the lead than in the whole article. It not only weighs the lead down with too much information but doesn't read well.
This is my suggestion. Since the lead has several examples of early viral videos, why not not pare it down to three or four good examples of viral vids (both early and later ones), and use the rest to fill out the "early history" section? It seems like the perfect answer to both problems. The excess info in the lead is exactly what the early history section needs.
Also, some of the info from the first paragraph of the history should be re-worked into the "early history" section. Why not make the first paragraph more of a brief, historical overview and save the information regarding early videos for the early history section?
I was going to do this edit but it's quite extensive, and I would need your help. I don't know enough about the videos mentioned in the lead to judge which should be moved into the early history section and which should remain where they are. I think you'd be better at judging that, since you have a better working knowledge of the subject.
I think what I'm going to do is start by integrating the two paragraphs in the history. I may have to temporarily delete the "early history" subcategory, because there will only be two sentences left once the redundant info is deleted, but I can re-create it as soon as you let me know which ones you think should be used in the early history. I'm going to copy them out and can re-insert them when I have the rest of the information that I need.
Please let me know what you think about all of this. :)
Best-
Viralvidkid ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC).
I think you are being unreasonable in deleting what I have written, when it is obviously relevant and well-referenced. You are engaging in edit wars. No me, since I have re-written substantially. You delete without giving good reasons. You can edit to improve it if you wish.
Yewhock ( talk) 05:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
May I ask you to check some of the Tibetan romanizations at 2010 Yushu earthquake? Some of them are awkwardly written in pinyin... Colipon+( Talk) 15:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't know who you are, but your edit at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (icons) is an outright fabrication that is a direct attack on my reputation and appears to have been deliberately done to discredit me. I request that you remove this and show the good manners to apologize. Handicapper ( talk) 21:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, I currently have an article on a Sparks album at FAC. Reflecting on the nomination, it's occurred to me that the article doesn't have an audio sample yet. Could you tell me how I go about creating one? Also, if you'd like to review the article, the FAC page is at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Seduction of Ingmar Bergman/archive1. Cheers, -- JN 466 10:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Just a quick note to say thank you for keeping an eye on the Eva Peron article and keeping out the nonsense people put in there. I had suggested we lock the article because the vandalism of that article is often offensively sexually explicit. Andrew Olivo Parodi ( talk) 20:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
It would be great if you could comment here if it is still open for comment. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey, trying to avoid an edit war here, let's figure this out. :)
I agree that the suicide isn't what makes it violence. Bullying is considered violence even if the bullying isn't physical. To quote from the Wikipedia article on violence... "Violence is the expression of physical or verbal force against self or other" I believe that the inclusion of the child is therefore correct. I do think that this is a somewhat less clearcut case than the other reasoning, though. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. :) -- Joe Decker ( talk) 16:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
In your last revert, you wrote, "rv: the point is, HHG redirects here, so someone typing that while looking for High Harmonic Generation might end up here instead". I agree with what you wrote but, unfortunately, that is not what the {{ dablink}} text says. It actually says:
This article is about the franchise. Several terms redirect here; see The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (disambiguation), Hitchhiker's Guide (disambiguation) and High Harmonic Generation.
And High Harmonic Generation does not redirect here. In fact, none of the three pages listed redirects here. So what the {{ dablink}} text says is wrong, and so misleading. You did not like my solution to this problem; do you have a solution? (Please respond here or on the article's Talk page.) HairyWombat ( talk) 01:43, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Good suggestion; I have incorporated it into the article. (If I was confused then others also would have been.) HairyWombat ( talk) 22:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
hi,
i'm trying to change the profile pic of leehom wang as the current one is way outdated. I have a pic that was taken by ourhome china and posted on their website. How do i upload it?
Hi,
My name is Prashant Jain. I am a new member to Wikipedia. I am a great sport lover and wish to share my part of information on Wikipedia. I have provided some information with one external link, but it seems like due to some mistake, my link has been deleted. With reference to "My Contribution" i came to know that you have removed my link.
I read and tried to follow all the link policy guidelines provided by Wikipedia, but wondering why my link has been removed, would be great if you can guide me on the same.
Looking forward for your guidance and advice on link policy.
Best Regards,
Prahsant Jain
Hi,
Thanks for your valuable suggestion, i will read the guidelines suggested by you and will write content accordingly.
Best Regards,
Prashant Jain
Thanks for your help a few days Rjanag; unfortunately, the provider of the email address I used is having some technical difficulties and I have no idea how long it's going to take before I can access those emails again (2 hours? 2 days?). I have now changed my email address here on WP to a more reliable and up-to-date address anyway; it's my username (including the numbers) at gmail.com. If it's easy, would you mind posting them over again? If it's not, don't worry, I'll wait it out, but I thought I might as well ask. Thanks, - Jarry1250 Humorous? Discuss. 16:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
sorry for the reverts, I just want the lead to be neutral and let the readers make their own decision. This seems like my own OR, so I want to tread carefully.
It seems as if one organisation has been forced to accept the documents provided (passport etc) but there is overwhelming evidence (removed files online etc) that something dodgy is going on behind the scenes. I think either both points need to be in the lead, or none.
Not everyone has accepted the Chinese side of things, there are still a lot of reliable sources who believe she was 14 not 16 and enough evidence to support their claims.
I don't want to start an investigation into this, or change the article into a witch hunt, but the lead should either reflect that the controversy is not over, or at least it should not lead people to believe that she has been proven without any doubt to be 16.
what do you think? カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! ( talk) 10:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey, that's great its at FAC, nice work! :) To be honest, I don't have opinion on the flag use - I added the reactions as they came in and flags made it easier as is the case with many other articles, so reading your comment I agree it makes it easier visually, rather than a load of text. But noting the other users concerns, it would make sense to either change them to the "link alt" thing. Bolding is fine but I think I prefer the first option, though I'm happy with either outcome. Sorry I'm not much use, I'm not really familiar with Wikipedia policies in this respect! Midway ( talk) 23:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
|work=
(from |publisher=
or |agency=
) because that seemed to be what
Template:cite news suggested. Based on my reading of it, it sounded like |agency=
is only supposed to be used for the agency that wrote and supplied the article (i.e., it's sort of a replacement for |author=
) and generally only when that differs from the newspaper/website where we found it (for example, a China Daily article that says the source is Xinhua, or something on ABC news that says the source is AP). Anyway, long story short, the italicization is probably a result of that change.Sorry about not getting back to you sooner. I didn't do much wiki editing over the break, but I've been doing way too much eding for the Haiti earthquake articles over the last week. I put together some info that could be used on this temporary page User:David_Straub/urumqiriotsedit. I think the main problem with the Urumqi riots at the moment is that it includes almost no information concerning government claims that the riots were orchestrated by a terrorist separatist group in Xinjiang. I don't believe the claims of the government, but most Chinese do. I think that adding one section that explains the views of the government by using articles from mouthpiece sources such as the China Daily would both informative and at least alleviate some of the concerns of Chinese that their views be heard. But I won't worry that this is endorsing their views. I think it is just more likely to reveal how ridiculous their claims are. Review what I put together and let me know what you think/want to do with it. I'm a little busy right now, so if you want to add some of the text to the main article, feel free to do so.
Actually, I down loaded an pirated copy of Colin Legerton's book, but I didn't read it yet. He's in CEUS. I took a class with him last year.
Take care. David Straub ( talk) 20:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the invitation to comment on that article, but, after reading it, I don't think I can suggest any meaningful improvement or offer any meaningful criticism.
Well, OK, there is this one sentence, with a reference to a paper by Dru Gladney: "China's minority policy treats Uyghurs as a 'national minority' rather than an indigenous group." I am sure Dr. Gladney's paper (which I did not look at) probably explains what is meant by these words - he is a major writer on these issues, after all. But to a casual reader this statement sounds rather cryptic. I think that to an average person an "indigenous group" simply is an "ethnic minority" that is officially recognized as having a long-term association with a certain geographic area, and is officially granted certain special rights on account of that association. One would think that the (official) status of the Weiwu'er minzu in PRC -- with the XUAR on the maps, a 维吾尔民族简史 publsihed, an official bilingualism of sorts, and the policy of appointing members of the " titular nationality" to the (possibly figurehead) leadership positions in the region -- makes them just as "officially indigenous" to the region as the Nisga'a are to the Nass River Valley or the Buryats to Buryatia. So if I were to write this, I would perhaps try to explain what Gladney's dichotomy means.
Thinking of it, the preceding sentence "Uyghurs believe their ancestors were indigenous to the area, whereas government policy considers present-day Xinjiang to have belonged to China since the Han Dynasty", with its "whereas", implies a contradiction of the two point of views, even if it does not explicitly say that there is one. I certainly can imagine some kind of 维吾尔民族简史 talking about 我国维吾尔民族 happily living in the area in 100 BC (or wherever), in such-and-such commandery of the Western Han Dynasty empire...
Please feel free to ignore these comments, or to move them to an appropriate talk page elsewhere.
On an unrelated issue: could you insert proper Uyghur letters into Musa Sayrami, Yaqub Beg, Afaq Khoja, and Muzat River, sometimes when/if you have a chance? Official bilingualism or not, my Atlas of Xinjiang certainly does not have any 少数民族文字 in it! Vmenkov ( talk) 12:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm thinking... just in case the FAC goes through... We're gonna have to find a picture that's suitable for the front-page... I don't think any of the ones we have right now are good for that... (unless you want the damn map, but that'd be kinda cheesy...) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:41, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, How can this be used for Wikipedia? Kind regards, Sarcelles ( talk) 16:54, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I have added a Vietnamese entry to match the other three examples given, but I have no idea on how to explain which variant characters are used, and how many have limited Unicode support. There are obviously characters that are more preferable to others, but most would be unable to have them displayed correctly. Do you have any idea on how I can get around this? My meddling can be found at User:Benlisquare/Sandbox2#Viet if you are interested. Cheers, -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 05:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
It's infuriating, this linkrot. The lack of archiving by those archiving sites we use, also. If we kept copies of the articles on our hard disk, at least we can still refer to them although they will no longer be available publicly. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 00:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Regarding [16]: nerdiness deserves praise, not pardon! Actually that quote is what I thought of when I read his question, too. — Knowledge Seeker দ 17:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. Zweifel ( talk) 22:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
You asked User Iqinn whether Abdul Haq (ETIM) was the same as Abdul Haq (Uyghur camp leader).
Thomas Joscelyn has asserted that Abdul Haq (ETIM) was the same individual who lead the Uyghur camp, and that he was the manager of a Uyghur guest house. To the best of my knowledge, all claims that the two individuals are the same can be traced to Joscelyen.
I've wondered whether we should regard Josceleyn as a WP:RS. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, a professional commentator. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, an academic who has studied politics, or military matters, or intelligence, or the law. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, someone who was a respected columnist or journalist, prior to starting to blog on the GWOT. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, a former intelligence officer.
It seems to me that he is just some guy who has taken the time to read the same documents I have. On a personal level I don't consider his conclusions any more reliable than I regard my own. Frankly, if I was a blogger I would blog in an intellectually honest manner. I'd never simply leave off from informing my readers of exculpatory information. Joscelyn does this all this time. His claim that the two Abdul Haq(s) are one individual being a case in point. While he informs his readers that some of Uyghurs reported their camp leader was named Abdul Haq he neglects to inform them that the Ugyhurs say he was killed during the American aerial bombardment, back in 2001.
On the other hand, some legitimate journalists do cite him in their articles. And he has been invited to testify before at least one US Congressional committee.
Abdul Haq is clearly a very common name. On a personal level I suspect that the several hundred, or several thousance, Uyghur exiles in the region probably included many individuals known as Abdul Haq.
Intelligence analysts have described the ETIM as a well-organized and dangerous militant group. If Abdul Haq (Uyghur camp leader) was really the 2nd in command of the ETIM, then it is hard to understand how the ETIM could have been as dangerous as intelligence analysts feared. How dangerous could the group have been if the ETIM's 2nd in command, and those he was leading, were armed with just a single AK-47?
So should Abdul Haq (ETIM) say he also lead the Uyghur camp in Nangarhar? IMO it should certainly not assert this as a fact. It should not assert this as a claim of US intelligence analysts. I have no objection to the Abdul Haq (ETIM) article stating that Thomas Joscelyn asserts he also lead the Nangarhar camp.
If this assertion is included, attributed to Josceylen, should it note that he was reported KIA in 2009, while the Nangarhar camp leader was reported KIA in 2001? I dunno. Geo Swan ( talk) 23:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I suggested some alternative hooks for the Robert Krentz DYK nomination. Would love it if you'd take another look. :-) Thanks! — Rnickel ( talk) 18:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the fixes. I saw the error with the link to .ogg, and found you fixed that too. - Stevertigo ( w | t | e) 04:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with the first revert, as I did not pay attention to what code came through subclusion. I filed a bug recently, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23388 regarding hatnote issues.
I agree with the second revert, though I will point out that the section does need expanding. Please see also recent discussion on wikien about IPA, in particular, comments negative toward IPA and, by default, in support of that Wikipedia:Pronunciation respelling key. PS: The issue with phonology vs. pronunciation is one of excess information, which is why I think there is resistance to IPA per se. - Stevertigo ( w | t | e) 04:34, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag,
Please explain in detail why you think this page is spam. You recently deleted it saying it was blatant advertising. You are incorrect in this assumption. The page accurately describes a noteworthy gym in one of the fastest growing sports in the world. If this page is spam, then every other page describing all the other noteworthy mixed martial arts facilities described in Wikipedia should be described as spam as well and also deleted.
If you have suggestions for improvement, then kindly provide them on a page that is completely factual. Otherwise, please do not try to re-delete the page or I will think you have some personal bias against the gym specifically. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmasource ( talk • contribs) 08:56, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Why did you undo my edit of The Dark Knight (film)? Your edit made the page say, "The Dark Knight is a 2008 superhero directed and co-written by Christopher Nolan." I changed it to say that it is a "2008 superhero film directed and co-written by Christopher Nolan." The movie is a "superhero film," not a "superhero.". -5- ( talk) 18:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag,
Not sure if you actually read through the updates I recently included in the page you just reverted, but there are 2 additional citations from Sherdog, the largest MMA news site in the world, and an actual newspaper article that came out last night regarding one of the fighters/trainers at The Arena. Additionally, I have included links from both Sherdog.com and Mixedmartialarts.com that list The Arena as an official team site, which is hard to do unless you are one. So kindly stop getting into an edit war and claiming there aren't 3rd party verification when there are right on the page.
Additionally, since you are the one who deleted The Arena MMA page in the first place, please read the following I wrote to another Wikipedia user who got involved in this whole deletion situation. I think if you actually take the time you read my response, as well as visit all the links I have provided in this repsonse, you will realize you are in error in attempting to delete this page. Thanks.
Benlisquare,
I apologize in advance if I am not following all protocols with your Talk page, but I am relatively new to Wikipedia and am not completely familiar with certain things like how to best communicate on the Talk pages and the different users who contribute to them. Since you clearly are an expert in this area, please help me correct whatever issues I need to do in the future.
As far as your concerns/comments, as well as those of others, I am a bit surprised. I created the page on The Arena because I am an avid follower of MMA and The Arena is one of the fastest growing MMA teams in the country and deserves inclusion in Wikipedia on these merits. Particularly given the fact that many of the MMA teams listed in Wikipedia are no longer as notable as The Arena is because the sport is so dynamic and much of the information regarding these teams and their fighters is non-current. Also, my interest in The Arena and its fighters qualifies me as a supporter of the gym/team, not as a conflict of interest.
As far as how I set up the page and what I included, I attempted to follow the format used for the other MMA team pages included in Wikipedia so The Arena MMA page would best fit in. So, if The Arena MMA page is promotional, then I imagine the other MMA team pages should be included in that category as well.
As far as verification of The Arena and its athletes...
1. The team is young and most newspapers do not cover much of MMA. In fact, I honestly do not think newspapers qualify as a reliable source for MMA info as much is reformatted from other sources. However, having said that, you can find recent mention of The Arena and its team members like Olympic Silver Medalist Stephen Abas at the following locations.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/04/07/1887820/ex-dog-abas-sets-mma-dates-at.html
Additionally, I have included several other online mentions of The Arena from sites that are more relevant to MMA such as:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=news.detail&gid=228200
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/4/2/1402864/2004-olympic-silver-medalist
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Olympic-Silver-Medalist-Abas-Signs-with-Tachi-Palace-Fights-23624
http://www.doseofmma.com/3700/rani-yahya-constrictor-bjj-hl/
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/12-Questions-for-Cris-Cyborg-Santos-22251
2. There are also numerous videos available online of various fighters representing The Arena during their fights, notably Diego Sanchez (who has The Arena logo on his shorts, shirt, and banner) during his most recent fight against BJ Penn on 12/12/2009, as well as Cris "Cyborg" Santos during her last Strikeforce title defense against Marloes Coenen on 1/30/2010. These fights can be found online. Additionally, the UFC Countdown Video Segment for Diego Sanchez that was aired nationally on Spike TV prior to the fight was conducted at The Arena and clearly showed The Arena in the segment.
3. There are also other videos available on The Arena's website itself, as well as YouTube, from third parties such as Bad Boy Brands that show fighters such as Demian Maia (UFC) and Diego Sanchez (UFC) training at The Arena. These videos can be found here at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHEXvWGfnYA&NR=1 and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy1VNA7YLWQ and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx3IXyqXiLI
Additionally, there are videos actually produced by The Arena that clearly show Fabricio Camoes (UFC), Rodrigo Nogueira (UFC), Rani Yahya (WEC), Royler Gracie (4x BJJ world champ), Joe Duarte (Bellator), etc. training at The Arena. These videos are located at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xrUSGWN0BA and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_lI8tccuxw
4. Finally, both mixedmartialarts.com (the official resource for all MMA fighter records) and sherdog.com (the largest, most recognized, and one of the oldest MMA sites in existence) has The Arena listed as an offical team. You can find the links here at:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=home.link and:
These two sites are tightly controlled and will not allow links to team sites that are not official and recognizable.
Given all this evidence that you can judge for yourself if you take the time to visit all the sites I have provided, particularly the online video locations (seeing is believing), I cannot understand how anyone could not regard The Arena MMA page as legitimate, as well as the actual gym itself.
I don't know how much the Wikipedia members who commented on the legitimacy of The Arena MMA page actually know about the sport of MMA, but there is absolutely no way these types of MMA athletes would be involved with The Arena if it was not 100% legitimate and deserving of recognition. Even independent Yelp reviewers mention this fact (see here at: http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-arena-mma-san-diego
Please let me know how to best improve the page if it actually needs to be improved given all the documentation I have just provided. Additionally, please share this information with the other Wikipedia members who made comments on the Talk Page as I am unsure how to communicate with everyone simulataneously.
Thank You,
mmasource
Mmasource ( talk) 07:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Would someone be able to reply to User talk:Benlisquare#The Arena (MMA) Page, and/or maybe propogate it so that everyone is aware of his post? I'll be rather knot-tied tonight, and won't have the time to respond. Regards, -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 07:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
告诉用户 User:Miranda1989,叫他不要轻举妄动,不要擅自移除模板。我因为一时没空,无法有时间仔细查阅内容。还有,请告诉我哪里可以找到管理员(目前常上线的),为了避免突然状况,不排除告状并封禁此人。 -- 俠刀行 ( talk) 09:58, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
User:Epeefleche/Nicholas Beale, which you userfied, has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Epeefleche/Nicholas Beale. Cunard ( talk) 00:46, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag,
Just following up on this maintenance template issue. I have listed numerous 3rd party sources that should take of any issues you had with notability, verification, etc. However, now that I'm learning about Wikipedai protocol more, I'm trying to follow it as closely as possible. Is it OK to take the template down now that there have been numerous verifiable references added to the article? Mmasource ( talk) 19:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I guess I'm still a little unclear then. On my tp, you said "Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to The Arena (MMA), without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary." I thought I clearly resolved that problem by adding numerous 3rd party verifications subsequent to WP admins viewing the article and recommending deletion bc there wasn't enough 3rd party verifications. Now there are more than a few. In fact, in reviewing the other Mixed Martial Arts team pages, I noticed I have provided more 3rd party verification sources than almost any other MMA page. Are you saying that these 3rd party verifications are not sufficient, particularly compared to the other pages in the same category. many of which use the same 3rd party verification sources i.e. sherdog.com to establish notability? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmasource ( talk • contribs) 00:46, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag,
would it make sense to write articles on mayors and deputies rather than labor camps? Kind regards, Sarcelles ( talk) 12:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I responded Tim 1357 talk 01:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello, you recently speedily deleted a page I created called Wikipedia_malamanteau_controversy, with the complaints, "Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSD A7). no independednt sources cited", however, both complaints are unmerited.
First, I clearly indicated the significance of the topic, with stats directly related to its significance:
"The page for Malamanteau received over 70,000 views[3] and 400[4] talk page edits within 24 hours of the creation of the page."
The wording of the above sentence is a bit ham handed, sure, but that alone doesn't merit deleting the page, forget speedy deletion.
Second, I also provided multiple independent sources. The Reddit page, the Askvile page, and the grok.se page are all independent from the parties involved.
Thanks, 8bit ( talk) 18:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
You are just needing to see replies on my talkpage! (couldn't resist the link)
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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
你还有留意到我之前的 翻译要求吗?最近又有人留言给你了(加上我也有),要不要解决上面的争论?误会好像越来越多。 -- 俠刀行 ( talk) 08:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag
As mentioned above, I looked into a WP:3O request that had arisen from the use of a tag and the concerns over the use of that tag: discussion here.
One of the editors has posted on my talk page.
Are you able to communicate with this user? It seems clear to me that they can not understand the comment I left at the article's talk page, nor here on your talk page.
Many thanks! TFOWR propaganda 10:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
真是欲加之罪何患无辞。
我使用的IP地址是我工作的里昂一家教学医院的IP地址,另外G.G.使用的是国内一家大学的IP地址。这些IP流量大,日夜不休很是很正常的,但是不是代理Proxy。
GG确实是我认识的人,所以他投票的时候自己把选票划掉。应该说我们没有做过分的事情。
另外牵涉到一位用户是我的一个同事,我帮助她建了她第一个条目。她不会英语,也不会来英语版,也不参与的我的条目。我们当时不知道系统自动建立了个英语版帐号。因为我的帐号比较老,英语版、法语版、汉语版都是一次一次建立的。所以我给她建立的条目加了个英语版链接。结果她的英语帐号也被封了。她根本不会来英语版,但是不知道什么时候会为了英语版的这件事情,法语版的帐号被当作马甲被封。
我已经和几位管理员联系过了。有什么好说的呢?
Ryulong曾经扬言可以把我的帐号封掉,没想到是这种方式。尤其讨厌的是还无缘无故牵涉别人。我自己倒也算了,只是对其他受害者感到非常不好意思。
此外,关于上海话拼音的事情。那套输入法其实2004年就被Linux操作系统采用了。其实这套拼音的条目也是上海话的Phonology,对读者还是有意义的。什么也不用说了,管理员说不行就是不行。
上海话和维语不同,不受法律保护。拼音市场的混乱对教学推广都造成困难,促使灭亡。这就是2007那次被删除的原因。你也看到了那套一点线外资料都没有的Long-short一直好好。实际确实是有人故意整这套方案。
最后没有什么好说的。我只能做自己力所能及的事情。
-- 83.145.72.66 ( talk) 13:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I want to create a language.Would you help me?Be a language similar to Esperanto, but it will appeal to the East..I've started creating a few words.You can look at my English Dilyaratan page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dilyaratan -- Dilyaratan ( talk) 18:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
I've got university examinations in mid-June worth 70-80% of my subject marks for my four subjects... I'll be curbing my visits to Wikipedia soon. I've got all the time in the world after that. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 10:44, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
You might note that at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to
Fort Lee High School, also introduced some extraneous text around some numerical characters. This may be due to a combination of your browser and
Skype trying to identify and highlight telephone numbers. Thank you.--
Rumping (
talk) 23:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Today I discovered that someone moved Qing Dynasty personality Dorgon to Chengzong Emperor, and does not offer any reasons for doing so. Said user did this completely out of the blue, therefore by procedural rules alone I think it's safe to move it back... however, since I don't have administrative powers, I had to come here and ask for you to kindly do this for me. I hope it's not too much trouble. :) Colipon+( Talk) 23:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Then user colipon should have directed to me, he never leaved a message on my talk page or on the articles talk he just sneaked behind the table and asked for backup,so im at best just returning the favour of his rudness. One last, i only reverted one so i think you're exagerating it calling it edit warring, hope you'll gave him the same warning.-- Andres rojas22 ( talk) 01:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
your biased-- Andres rojas22 ( talk) 01:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Go ahead ban me, ill just think how will you explain banning a guy only cus he irritated you, some administrator you are-- Andres rojas22 ( talk) 04:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
A while back I began developing the townships of Xinjiang like Anningqu and it was I who requested the map of Xinijiang for pin. I wondered if you had access to sources or a list of townships. I wanted to work towards building up a coverage of Xinijang. My friend User:John Hill has done a lot of work on historical Xinjiang and the Silk Road but much modern content of townships is actually missing. Interesting region. I just hate it when people bring politics/predujices to the wikipedia place and which motivates/drives them. I seem to have encountered a misunderstanding with your friend Seb. He accused me of inserting PRC POV into the Tibet Museum article which I had not even noticed and it was genuinely innocent. This has upset me. As a result it has left me suspicious of his own political viewpoints and his reasons for developing the Urumqi riots article as he seems very politically minded and anti-PRC. It has made me question his reasons for spending so long on the article. I do hope I am wrong and that you both genuinely have no hidden issues. The article is very good and seems to be neutral thanks to the large scale collaboration on it but what I said about the coverage in western media being less I think is worthy of mentioning. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Glad to hear that the article was not written by an Uyghur sympathizer. . But I couldn't agree more with your notion that "it would have been polite of you to notify the editors ". I'd appreciate the same from time to time... Lets not forget that I voted "support" for the Urumqi article. But what I saw happen over the Tibetan Museum which strongly implied to me a resentment of the Chinese and their propaganda by Seb, you can forgive me for suddenly being suspicious of him. The first work I saw that he did heavily was the Urumqi riots article. And I did say during the FAC how surprising it was that the article was developed so much when the Urumqi article itself is a lot poorer. Then that got me wondering why there was so much passion there in writing the article, as if it was done to identify the grievances facing the Ughyurs thats all.Everybody has a certain reason or motivation for writing an article. I just know that many people bring real world biases with them to wikipedia and implant it all over, I am very pleased to hear that neither you, Seb or the group that wrote the article do not bring their issues with them to wikipedia and try to make it neutral. Thanks for clearing that up. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Please check out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lady. Thanks. Kitfoxxe ( talk) 02:24, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
In the suggested merge of Word (language) to Word you wrote, "Any content that is worth preserving can be brought over here, but there's no need for a full-on merge." Isn't that a definition of merging? <g>
I do agree that there is no need to merge everything at Word (language), and upon closer inspection (probably something I should have undertaken before supporting the proposal; bad on me) there is only one suggestion there that is supported by reliable sources. That is the description of semantic primitives, cited to work by Goddard and what I think is a textbook by Wierzbicka. I'm not sure if this should merged to Word, but think either it could be merged or else there could be a pointer to Semantic primes either in the text or as a See also.
Given the lack of well-sourced information, I would have no problem with a redirect without merge. I'll suggest as much at Talk:Word. Cnilep ( talk) 20:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, the OTRS permission is pending since July 2009. Was the permission sent? If not, the image needs to be deleted. Regards Hekerui ( talk) 20:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
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"Hózhǫ́ǫgo Nińdoohah!"
(~ may the next winter arrive for you while beauty prevails)
...Hoozdoh Hahoodzodę́ę́ʼ
Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556
> haneʼ 1 Yas Niłtʼees 2010
...by the way, whatever happened to the suggested FA-nomination for the Urumqi-riots article? maybe I missed something... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 04:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Yepp. I think the first thing that could be done about tone is trying to find synonyms for "South Korea". Sound like a national anthem-chant. Wouldn't "the country" or "it" or whatever fit in every now and then...? :P Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 12:15, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag, I wanted to quickly say sincere thanks for the 2 things surrounding WGB ... the barnstar, and your comment surrounding my proposal/mentoring. I'm just trying to live by my overall philosophy about Wikipedia! ( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:39, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate your heads-up about the DYK hook. Would you mind taking a look at the various alternatives proposed here and here? Any suggestions for improvement would be greatly appreciated.
Peter Isotalo 18:00, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
I think Coffee got that. But, taking the high road, acting above board with highly disruptive new users can deflate them. I urge you to consider that in the future before getting in a jab at AN/I. [1] Wikipedia seems to throw out welcome mats to the User:John254 sock puppet creations. -- IP69.226.103.13 | Talk about me. 19:56, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Rjanag. I see you around sometimes. You do great work here, though you do not need me to tell you that. I am just stopping by your talk page to ask you if there is anything wrong with " circular links"...as long as they are far enough away from their targets? They seem to come in handy to me, as in pointing readers to spots that are not as readily (or rather not as easily) visible. Flyer22 ( talk) 00:44, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
anchor}}
in directly at the paragraph that's about Ben & Jen. I know I clicked on the "Bennifer" link expecting to go to an article about them, and was instead brought to a long section where I couldn't even see mention of "Bennifer" without searching it carefully.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 00:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Wow, thanks - I didn't even realize! Now, to stick my face into the screen for a piece of that cake... -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 01:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjanag,
Please reply to this message at my email address which is <snip /> even if it is just to say you have no time for me.
I have edited Wikipedia in small ways about ten times. I used to have a talk page that vanished mysteriously, so I'll give you my email address until that is sorted out. Your views on what happened to my talk page are welcome, but that is not the reason I am contacting you.
I am writing this message because you are a linguist, and I am hoping you can advise me on how to find out if I've come up with an original idea in lexicography or not. If the idea is original I may want to publish a paper about it, and/or apply for a patent. I know little about applying for patents and still less about publishing academic papers. My priority right now is to find out if my idea is original, and that is why I was hoping to contact R Hartmann.
When I stumbled on your talk page, and saw that you are a linguist and fellow Wikipedian, I thought it might be worth a try to contact you for whatever advice you can give me about how to contact experts in lexicography. I am in a remote part of Thailand right now and there are not many libraries or lexicographers here.
I am an amateur linguist.
Best regards,
Squid Pro Roe 2
PS I am also straight but not narrow - love that one-liner.
222.123.178.213 ( talk) 22:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Please read my comment under Smash Record. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sxyh745 ( talk • contribs) 14:54, 6 January 2010
Hello. This is not a faulty bot; [2] most of the editors it reports need prompt blocking before their vandalism succeeds. -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
You are a great guy! Thanks for being so excellent and all the help you've given me. It's surprising how much I've already forgotten since the days of editing continually. I shall definately exercise my right to vanish on the old account soon. Thanks Threewords,eightletters... ( talk) 01:14, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
i was just gonna add the alternative:
{| class="wikitable" style="float:left; border:1px solid grey;" |- |style="text-align:center; font-size:12px; color:#9999;"|[[File:Ürümqi riots video.ogv]]<br/>Violence captured on a witness' cell phone |}
...you're too fast. :P Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:37, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
video}}
apparently used to exist and has since been
deleted, god knows why. I'm having a bit of trouble understanding the guidelines on thumb usage at
WP:CMF#Video usage, so I've posted a message at
WT:FA#Videos and asked a couple people to comment...feel free to take a look, maybe you can see something I didn't!
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 03:43, 7 January 2010 (UTC)re: "Thanks for your contribution, but this nomination is supposed to be placed on the DYK nominations page, not in the template instructions themselves. I have now done it for you. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 12:54, 7 January 2010 (UTC)"
- Do you want to nominate an article for "DYK" (link: what is a DYK?)
then:
- Go to page WW
- Click XX
- Enter into the form: a, b, and c (the rest is optional)
- Review what you have done by clicking YY
- Press the button marked ZZ to submit (link: information about what then happens)
Best regards, -- Remotelysensed ( talk) 14:03, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I definitely feel like I am being called names and taunted (webhost, troll, quack, etc.) and being attacked personally about my various, and now multiplying, userpages.
Please check on how many of the 'Delete' arguments actually refer totally to the page in question without making some negative assessment of the user, Neptunerover. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 12:12, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
So you stopped me before I could finish responding to all the arguments against me. That means you win. Aren't you proud? -
Neptunerover (
talk) 12:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Lesson received. I understand now that defending myself was against the rules. It is called "feeding the trolls," and is expressly ill advised. Sorry about my feeding all the trolls. I realise now it's not all up to me. There are plenty of trolls for all of the feeders. I didn't mean to be hog. (perhaps at first, but that was just me being selfish.) I can see that you've got things under control here, and so carry on.-- Neptunerover ( talk) 00:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
The section you removed "Chinese" from in fact referred only to Written Chinese, not any of the spoken dialects. GSMR ( talk) 17:55, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, Neptunerover ( talk · contribs) has circumvented your close of Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Neptunerover/Theory About Everything with this edit. I have reverted it. Best, Cunard ( talk) 23:20, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
You're a good cherry picker Rjanag. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 02:44, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
I removed the report given that you reverted. It didn't seem fair to ask for him to be blocked when he couldn't self-revert. John Smith's ( talk) 01:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
The IP users are still editing without gaining consensus first. Can you step in, put it back as it was before and make it clear we're going to resolve this without editing the page (e.g. sandbox) first? John Smith's ( talk) 23:13, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm afraid you deleted more than you should have when you deleted an entire page of mine without giving adequate reasons for why you deleted everything you deleted. Please return that which should not have been deleted in your frenzy of deletion. I had something I called "another talk page" where I put Q&As from reference and help desks. I admit I accidentally moved the wrong thing there, but when I try to undo it, I still cannot get my proper page back. Please return that which you should not have deleted so that I may continue. I have more help desk answers that I need to keep in mind. If I am storing those things in a wrong manner, then could you please help me by instructing me on how I should go about storing the answers to my many questions. Thanks. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 04:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Is it acceptable for the closing administrator to take part in a deletion debate such as occurred here? -- Neptunerover ( talk) 06:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you'd deleted the page I had just created. Could you give me a link to the discussion page it was discussed to be deleted on, or give me resons for its deletion the first time it was created. Is it not notable etc. Thanks Kitchen roll ( talk) 15:33, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
You may be interested to know that 76.14.42.191 had the following to say about you.
As I said, here are six recent editors who support inclusion of the material, and you are the only one taking it out:
editor four, who reverted your removal, to keep: [4]
I've tried to tell him that you've already indicated you did not express support for the inclusion of the material, but I doubt he'll listen. John Smith's ( talk) 14:11, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey Rjanag, sorry about all the obstinance. I discovered the rule that applied to me and made sense as far as what people were complaining about without being able to explain to me what I was doing wrong. (those darn 'others') I've become email verified, and if you could send me the deleted crap, I would consider that perhaps almost too kind of you at this point, so let me know what you think. Thanks. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 17:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
You have to admit though, that question was 'suspect' from the start. I played AGF good cop and let the sock puppet show itself, and then Steve nailed it. I think the only personal attack I may have done was in labeling the sock puppet as a schizoid, and that was way after it was gone. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 07:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
( archived early) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag. I must ask you to desist from hounding and personal attacks. This has gone much too far. These are core polcies in Wikipedia and as an admin you should know better. Any further incidents and I shall have to make a formal report. NBeale ( talk) 07:23, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
( archived early) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 07:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to
attack other editors, as you did on
xkcd. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the
welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
Starblueheather (
talk •
contribs) 19:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
([ http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Rjanag&diff=340776371&oldid=340772468 archived early) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 20:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello Rjanag, for some reason I don't quite understand, the "<b class="Unicode">" tag in your sig causes your name to be displayed as a blank on my computer (Firefox 3.0 on Ubuntu 8.4). Omitting the "class" attribute solves the issue for me. I don't know why this is or whether other users are affected by the same problem. Would you consider modifying the sig? Thanks, -- Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:03, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag. Thank you for taking trouble over the Nicholas Beale AfD. But as you now know, the analysis of the sources you posted, however much in good faith, contains serious errors and mis-statements and is influencing the debate, due to your hard-earned reputation as an Admin. I must respectfully ask you, per WP:BLP and your responsibilites as an Admin, to retract these errors and to do what you can to nullify the harm that they have done. Many thanks. NBeale ( talk) 10:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to add some new fields to Template:Infobox_ship_begin but I forgot where they hide the code. Any chance you could point me to the right page so I can fiddle around with a copy of the code in my sandbox? I seem to recall you helped me out with this one other time. Thanks, Gatoclass ( talk) 11:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
For the record, your deletion of Matheus Lundberg was inappropriate, we don't delete articles just because they're not in English, they should be listed at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English and either deleted if they're inappropriate, or kept for two weeks to see if someone translates it, then listed for deletion. I'm not going to say restore it, but I find it strange that as an administrator you're unaware of the accepted practices for such a situation-- Jac16888 Talk 22:12, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Erasing everything doesn't help with pinpointing the problem. Do certain words frighten you. Fear is very understandable. -- Neptunerover ( talk) 01:54, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
I own a bunch of these hats, but I don't know what they are called. Doppa sounds Persian and Tubeteika definitely does not. It sounds more Turkish. I think the difference is that the Tubeteika is round and the Doppa is squarish, which I think can be folded up. I've seen them both all over Central Asia. I bet there are many different types and names, so I wouldn't merge the articles just based on name, unless someone else can verify they are the same thing. Ask User:Otebig. He studied Kazakh. He might know. User:Xhancock might also know. They are both IU graduate students. David Straub ( talk) 04:41, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I gather with this, you were attempting to make an optional title, perhaps defaulting to "Extended content" if not filled in. Unfortunately, it seems that the title is not optional. With or without substitution, it now centers {{{title}}} if no parameter is supplied.
Extended content
|
---|
Are you able to fix that so that "Extended content" continues to show if a title is not specified? I would if I could, but I'm afraid that templates are not my thing. -- Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
|title=
parameter (since previously it only worked with a numbered parameter, e.g. {{
collapse top|Stuff}}
rather than {{
collapse top|title=stuff}}
. Anyway, I just added a pipe which should (hopefully) fix it.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 16:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I raised the issue before Beale did as I say on the talk page. Also, if you believe I have vested interest in Beale, I can send an e-mail to you to verify my real identity. Common sense is a good thing, but some tightening of the sentence to avoid future misunderstandings would make sense, don't you think? Vesal ( talk) 13:01, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
-- Epeefleche ( talk) 18:18, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah. I see what you mean. Bearian ( talk) 02:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
adminstats}}
doesn't have helpful instructions up, but basically I think you just put {{
adminstats|Bearian}}
on your userpage and then the bot will create your stats. Once your stats are created (should be at
Template:Adminstats/Bearian) then you could just copy them to
User:Rjanag/adminbars/Bearian in a fashion similar to mine.{{
adminstats|Bearian}}
on your userpage{{User:Rjanag/adminbars/core |edits= |ed= |created= |deleted= |restored= |blocked= |protected= |unprotected= |rights= |reblock= |modify= |user={{SUBPAGENAME}}}} {{show|Admin stats|{{Template:Adminstats/Bearian}}}}
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The Working Man's Barnstar may be awarded to those who work tirelessly and endlessly on the more laborious or repetitive of Wikipedia tasks.
This barnstar is awarded to Rjanag, for his efforts in cleaning up redirects and other thankless tasks. On behalf of the Wikipedia community. Thank you. Ikip 09:40, 24 January 2010 (UTC) |
Nah, man, no problem. "These disagreements have sometimes led to violence and ethnic clashes, such as the 1997 Ghulja Incident and the 2008 Kashgar attack, as well as the more widespread 2008 Uyghur unrest preceding the Olympic Games in Beijing." No cite for that sentence. Thanks and good luck :) Aaroncrick ( talk) 21:28, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment on my talk page. It's taken ages to reply, sorry; I've been really busy as of late. I know this is taking your words more literally than meant, but when you say "it is what separates the (wo)men from the beasts" it makes me wonder if other animals that feel love actually get such feelings. I think they probably do. Apes are genetically close to us so I'm guessing they do. Something I now want to reaserch one day. :) Threewords,eightletters... ( talk) 05:41, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Dabomb87 ( talk) 13:31, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Your suggestion would be welcome as to how to present something fair and citable. There is a very caustic quote from Pullum in this Elements of Style wikipedia entry - if you look around the web, you'll see it's not necessarily shared by everyone, and indeed it is not. I have merely cited one of numerous examples of someone (who happens to be an English professor of many years, whether notable to you or not) who doesn't share it and his well-reasoned opinion as to why, followed by the numerous opinions of others in the blod entry
I am welcome to any language you can put in which accurately reflects this point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.145.123 ( talk) 16:03, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Why did you remove well-referenced information with this edit? And cite some unknown Chinese phrase as the reason for doing so. What does 填鸭子 mean, by the way? If there is some reliable source for China offering a liberal education in its schools, please cite it. If you feel the information from the New York Times is over-simplified, please try to do better, but please don't remove well-sourced information. Fred Talk 22:24, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you have simply thrown a list of references to Chinese education up without pointing out any information from a reliable source which contradicts or negates the information in the Times article. Fred Talk 15:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
You are welcome to snoop around the Ministry of Education website, which contains a whole lot of materials (but it's not well-organized, so things are hard to find). For example, this summary of higher education illustrates how much they are concerned with improving teaching quality and teaching methods (which in turn reflects an interest in improving education quality, although I guess an argument could be made that they're really just interested in finding methods to cram even more knowledge into the duck without teaching critical thinking...but, in my humble opinion, that's not likely)."(2) undergraduate education should enable students to systematically master the basic theory and basic knowledge necessary for the respective discipline and specialty, master the basic skills, techniques and related know-how necessary for the respective specialty and acquire initial capability for the practical work and research work of the respective specialty;"
Just below that quote it also mentions suzhi jiaoyu, or "character education"/"all-around education". This is an important concept; if you read any Chinese articles about education you will encounter it all over the place (素质教育). Sometimes it is used to mean something that is not really the same as critical thinking (for example, improving someones' "moral character"), but often it does refer to critical thinking skills, which the government recognizes are essential if it wants to become an economic powerhouse that doesn't rely so much on exports (i.e., if they want to thrive in the consumer economy and information/services economy, rather than just in manufacturing). The very existence of such a term, and the amount it gets thrown around, is yet another bit of evidence that education is not just all about job skills. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 16:34, 28 January 2010 (UTC)"Even as American educators seek to emulate Asian pedagogy — a test-centered ethos and a rigorous focus on math, science and engineering — Chinese educators are trying to blend a Western emphasis on critical thinking, versatility and leadership into their own traditions."
Yup, I saw, I was expecting Tim to take care of it ;) It looks like there's been some other activity there, and its currently endorsed. Let me know if you need anything else from me. Nathan T 18:20, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
Hello - what offense has the latest attempt to edit generated? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.144.40 ( talk) 22:35, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
See my latest - thanks.
So, there's no way to engage in a chat huh?
favor? close it (withdrawn) per WP:WHATEVER Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 05:23, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
{{
oldafdfull}}
to the talk page). I've certainly withdrawn and closed several of my own AfDs before.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 05:59, 29 January 2010 (UTC)So, which name would you prefer? kwami ( talk) 02:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Cantonese (Yue)
) is that it doesn't even state clearly what the article is about, and it doesn't clearly distinguish it from the article about the prestige dialect (currently called Cantonese
). As I probably said in one of the other discussions, the term is parentheses is usually read as a disambiguator: i.e., in an article titled [[X (y)]]
, the interpretation is "this article is about something called X, falling under the category of y". It's not clear how "Yue" is a category that the article falls under in this sense, and it's certainly now clear how the article Cantonese
doesn't also fit here. Along the same lines, to a reader just looking at the title "Cantonese (Yue)" and not seeing the content yet, it's not immediately clear that this article is going to be about the language family and not the specific variety.Cantonese (language family)
–Cantonese (dialect)
, or Cantonese (language)
–Standard Cantonese
; other options are Yue Chinese
–Cantonese language
, Yue Chinese
–Standard Cantonese
, etc.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 15:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)Do let me know if you have any concerns about my copyedits. I am just trying to get the text to flow a little better; please feel free to revert any and all edits which you feel aren't a clear improvement. Best, -- JN 466 23:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Since I'm involved and you're more experienced with this stuff, could you take a look at the history of Special Force Online and take any admin action necessary? Shubinator ( talk) 07:32, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
In response to your question here, I would say yes to it. The discussion I was mentioning was at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films/Archive 26#WP:FILMRELEASE. Hope that clears it up. Sjones23 ( talk - contributions) 19:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
Just created Vietnamese numerals. Will expand a bit more later (I'm hungry), but might need some copyediting if possible. Thanks. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 04:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Translation from ZH is now 100% complete. Skipped the Yan Emperor stuff because I couldn't really put it into context on an English page. Plus, my Classical Chinese is still horrible. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 14:18, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
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Hello Rjanag, I noticed you reverted the edits by the ip address on the Perry Meridian High School article. I was also going to revert the edits, but checked out the links provided and thought I would just try to add them in a more proper manner. Although I am not sure that it's correct, I put them as references for the subjects the ip editor tried to link to. I wasn't trying to undo your reverts, but in the process I did re-insert the links. DD2K ( talk) 01:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Did some communication happen over e-mail, or on another wiki, to warrant this user's unblock? So far, he has used his account pretty much entirely for self-promotional editing and multi-project spam, so I'm not sure what benefit there could be in unblocking him unless he's given you a clear statement of what he intends to do here. (If he has done so that's fine; I just wanted to ask.) rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 01:18, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello Rjanag. Recently I've been trying to improve the article Economy of South Korea. I was originally working on it a couple months ago trying to clean up the heavily biased and poorly written introduction. Lately my edits continue to be reverted by user Softjuice, and just recently, user Alohahell. An excessive number of unrelated images are also in the article. I've tried to raise discussion on the discussion page, but instead get accused of vandalism. I'm not a heavy Wikipedia editor, I just stick to a few occasional topics I'm interested in and try to improve what I see that looks really poor. So perhaps I am wrong. I ask for help with you because you've worked on this article before, and it seems you've dealt with these two users before as well. So you probably know how to go about this better than I do. I also would like to note that two other former accounts (Tnaniua and Tankiona) have somewhat similar edit histories, and have both done similar reverts to this article, although they could just be entirely unrelated. Please let me know what you think, and what I should do. Anawrahta ( talk) 16:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
I replied on my talk page. Ucucha 18:08, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Rjanag, I noticed that you warned Alohahell ( talk · contribs)'s possible copyvio images, and I totally agree with the concern. My gut feeling tells me that most of images that he uploaded do not look like taken by him. Do you know how to nominate his images for deletion in a bundle case? -- Caspian blue 04:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
"Britishizing"? LMAO Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 06:19, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Just a heads up - if an article does not pass at WP:FAC, the next peer review is supposed to wait two weeks after the close of the FAC, the idea being this gives time to address the issues which led to the article not passing at FAC. I wonder if an RfC would be better for establishing consensus on neutrality? A successful PR might only have one reviewer, but an RfC should attract many users. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 14:55, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
>> ?? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 09:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Firstly, I'm pleased to meet you. It has been great to see you working on the various Uyghur language-related articles, and I hope I will get to know you better. Secondly, I don't know if it is custom here on Wikipedia to give thanks, but I noticed you have awarded me a barnstar, so this is what I'm going to do: thank you, I'm just glad I'm able to contribute with something. -- Llonydd ( talk) 17:51, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I have recently expanded the article. Please look over with your expert knowledge and make any corrections needed. How many words do you count? Would it qualify now with enough prose words to qualify as a resubmitted normal DYK (not Valentine)?-- Doug Coldwell talk 19:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
The article you created is not substantially different than the one that was deleted, so it cannot be used. rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 20:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
我的英语不好,所以用汉语回复您。
无论如何,谢谢您。对您投的反对票,我能理解。-- ZHU Yeyi ( talk) 18:28, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
I saw you edited the page there. The subject was created by ZHU Yeyi who is the only other one who appears to be writing the page. I've gotten the page deleted here and at the Spanish Wikipedia, and it is being considered for deletion at the French Wikipedia. Perhaps you can list the page for AFD at zh?— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 05:11, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I know the policy is not about content of tables. Since this is a policy article, I am adding a few pointers of advice to the guideline. I plan to move it to a more general name, such as, wikipedia:tables. 174.3.98.236 ( talk) 08:56, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
[7] (Seems to be some convergence in fields of interest between us. The former linguists-student keeps creeping up in me, even though I switched to art years ago... :P) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 01:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
I love how you assume things. You're a very funny user.
I'm just removing stuff that doesn't have citation and is obviously an opinionated comment by a PC gamer that has a agenda against consoles. I suggest you pay more attention. Sourside21 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sourside21 ( talk • contribs) 07:25, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and so much for deleting this message without a response, am I right? Guess you were wrong, again... Sourside21
Rjanag, I've added a summary of the lyrics at the beginning of the "Lyrics and meaning" section. I think having a broad overview of the "storyline" will help the reader get a better feel for how the text could acquire other meanings than the literal one. Please have a look. I've adjusted some of the following content in the section accordingly, and moved the sentence on the phrase having no grammatical subject. I think it works. :) -- JN 466 11:38, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Another thing -- I've read/heard in several places that Cui Jian used to wear the the red blindfold when singing "A Piece of Red Cloth", rather than "Nothing to my Name"; specifically when performing at Tiannamen Square (e.g. [8], by Cui Jian himself, or [9]). Apart from Matusitz, none of the sources we cite seems all too definite on this point. I am wondering if Matusitz is wrong. -- JN 466 12:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your help. I apologize for the typo: "interchangeable" should of course have been "interchangeably." I thought you'd appreciate the replacement of blogs with printed sources, for instance, and I trust that you agree there was a need for copyedits; that wasn't a very nice edit summary you left me. Please don't take me for a drive-by tagger. Thank you again. Dr Aaij ( talk) 02:45, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi, Rjanag. If you have a moment, can you warn Jpatokal ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) as an admin for his highly inappropriate slander including racist attack and WP:Harassment against me? At Joseon Dynasty and Emperor Gojong of the Korean Empire, a new user named Gavinhudson ( talk · contribs) inserted sources which include a commercial site that does not show anything about the book along with an unreliable source. After some discussion with the new user yesterday, the matter was well resolved between him and me.
However, the new user did not restore his edit to Joseon Dynasty and Jpatokal restored the new edit with an accusation against me of not assuming good faith. Another editor reverted his edit. The two editor did not seem to know about the discussion between me and Gavinhudson and Jpatokal reverted again (thus edit warred). Except the AGF accusation and a need for clarification about the content, I had no problem with Jpatokal's restoration. As Jpatokal opened a discussion at Talk:Joseon_Dynasty#Life_expectancy, I civilly explained the situation and my stance. However, Jpatokal suddenly visited Gavinhudson with clearly ill-faith to slander me. [10] I consider his such inappropriate canvassing is not only a personal and racist attack (liberal dose of kimchi), and WP:Harassment. I've seen the user did the same thing elsewhere. So I think a strong admonishment from an admin would prevent him from repeating such ill behavior. Thanks.-- Caspian blue 15:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at WP:ANI#User:Jpatokal - racial slur and harassment regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Jpatokal ( talk · contribs)'s disruptive personal attacks that require administrators' attention. Thank you. -- Caspian blue 04:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
The current version of the guideline has be reverted. I hope you can help me gather consensus on the disputed versions of the guideline. 174.3.98.236 ( talk) 17:03, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, please don't ever don't do something like this again. If you were aware enough to say "shouldn't be reproduced anywhere" then surely you're aware enough that this is not fair-use. Every-bloody-thing published at Wikipedia gets the GFDL and CC-BY licenses, but the failures will get pinned to one single editor, namely you. I'm rather surprised Rjanag, we commented together at the FAC discussion on incorporation of PD/free text but now I see you (apparently) blatantly violating copyright protection. Is this a reaction to that previous discussion? Or am I missing something? Either way, there seems to be a misunderstanding that needs to be resolved. Franamax ( talk) 00:42, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag - I’ve just completed drafting my first WP essay in my user space: Creating A Better List. As of yet it is not linked anywhere except through the {{Essay}} template. My ultimate objective is to move this essay to the project space, but at this point, that is premature without some feedback from fellow editors. As such I would appreciate your opinion on the essay, especially on two points. 1) Have I made any statements contradictory to WP policy or guidelines? 2) Are there additional examples that could be included to demonstrate my points more effectively?
Thanks in advance for your review and feel free to make any editorial changes you think would enhance the essay. Please provide comments here, as I am asking several editors to comment and would like to keep them all in the same place.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:37, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I noticed that you went through and added a 'section' parameter to various character templates. THis parameter doesn't seem to do anything (there's no equivalent on the underlying 'special chars' template) - what is it meant for? -- Ludwigs2 04:18, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
{{
SpecialChars}}
as of
2 hours ago. I made it so the template would make sense in places like
Diglossia#Arabic.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 04:20, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I've struck my motion to close on grounds that you have now cited grounds for the FAR. Whatever happens, I wish you luck in pursuing the FAR. Its editors like you that help ensure that FAR standards are maintained, and for that I am grateful. TomStar81 ( Talk) 00:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag has changed the correct "athletic directors" to the incorrect "athletics directors." This is my first encounter with Rjanag. He may be British, in which case "athletics" is sometimes heard. In the United States (where I have been editing for nearly forty years) it is "athletic director." And the article title in Wikipedia is "Athletic director," so some other Wikipedia editor than Rjanag got it right. Google Search has the margin 10 to 1 in favor of "athletic" (2,560,000 to 263,000). It's equally lopsided in Google News (8,760 to 1,096). Elsewhere, Rjanag has removed my "leading American schools" -- which was a neutral, necessary, descriptive, definitive cultural shorthand -- in articles about the members of a body of, well, *leading* American schools. Again, it's a question of editorial or cultural "ear," as well as age and professional experience. "Leading schools" is an ancient term and locution, often emanating from headmasters' conferences (especially in the UK), but also often encountered in writing about schools, education, education history, in school directories, in journalism, in descriptions of school associations, and so forth. If eight of the most famous prep schools in the United States compose what Andover's "The Phillipian" has characterized as a "mirror of the Ivy League," then the innocuous phrase "group of leading American schools" is not only permissible, it is necessary, a definer, a describer, a clarifier. Rjanag may work tirelessly in Wikipedia, clearing out the undergrowth. But he doesn't know everything about everything, and in some areas he should try to learn. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Micheldene ( talk • contribs) 04:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Your very first message to me, a person unknown to you, was titled "Warring" (a concept I'd never heard of) and was itself worse than condescending. It was reactionary, bullying, preremptory and, given your howler about "athletic director," wrong. You demanded to know why I was everywhere undoing your work. I don't know about "undoing." I don't "undo" individual Wikipedia contributors. You were wrong about "athletic director" and you're wrong about the conventional, formulaic, innocuous, and often necessary phrase "leading schools." When you begin to understand that idiomatic fact, I'll change my present opinion that you're incredibly thin-skinned about editorial disagreement. (Incidentally, there isn't enough good writing in Wikipedia for you to be chasing off the professional writers you accidentally attract.) Now, let's start over, beginning with your apology for the bullying tone of that initial message to me. Micheldene ( talk) 05:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
During all my time as a patroller I have never encountered the tradition that warnings are only given "per spurt of vandalism". Could I please get an elaboration about what you are trying to achieve here? Also the account is clearly a vandalism-only account, I fail to see the constructiveness in your attempt at prolonging the existence of this account on Wikipedia. -- Saddhiyama ( talk) 16:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
Your edit is being discussed here. -- NeilN talk to me 05:39, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Get a grip man. My edit was perfectly proper. I don't have to discuss edits with you; nobody died and made you head of the wikipedia. The edit was not even controversial except in your head.
If you bother to read WP:LEAD guideline this is the style that leads are supposed to follow wherever possible.
In fact, it's unbelievably clear policy, WP:NAD says (and I did not write this bit):
"However, sometimes, a Wikipedia article (particularly stubs) will be badly written. Its introduction will say something such as "Dog is a term for an animal with the binomial name Canis lupus." or "Dog is a word that refers to a domesticated canine.". Such articles are not dictionary articles. They are badly written encyclopedia articles, that should be cleaned up in accordance with our Guide to writing better articles. Simply replace the cumbersome phrasings such as "is a term for", "is a word that means", "refers to", with the very simple "is": "A dog is an animal with the binomial name Canis lupus." "A dog is a domesticated canine."
It's all there, you just haven't read it.- Wolfkeeper 05:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Just in case you didn't know, comments in edit summaries are seen as more problematic than comments in text because they are part of the server logs and can only be removed by WP:OVERSIGHT. This is not always appreciated, so you're not the first to be bitten by this (as I was myself). Guy ( Help!) 10:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Dear Rjanag, if wiki should became a valuable resource of proved information you should also let research work have done. Who knows, that all other quoted sources are verified, if you don't let have them checked by someone. I am tired of adding my corrections to the article again and again. I cannot do more, then adding valuable sources and research. Please give me a concrete advice, proved by academics, that adding the 2 footnotes and the one sentence is incorrect. Since you mentioned my both IP addresses, yes, I am working not always on the same place, sorry, and I also do not have time for endless discussions in this so called "Talk Page". Do you really want to protect the Entropa entry from verified sources? Then I must say, I am very sorry for wiki and you should have let checked all the sources by a wiki watch man to verify all entries including footnotes. Thank you 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 15:50, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I think that you are holding back and censoring verified sources on Wiki entries. 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 15:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I know, that I made formal mistakes in communication, but I did not have time to check all the rules of wiki how to make entries and communicate them. I am very sorry for this, since I am a normal user and no computer freak. I cannot do more then apologize. And since all this procedure was already cosuming too much time, I think I have to give up. Thank you for your kind help and support. 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 16:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I did not think, that I have to apologize, because my intention was good, but just I did not understand all the warnings. And I did apologize before above. Now I really cannot follow this anymore, I have also other things to do. Thank you. 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 16:37, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
And I am not going to lead a public talk to someone about this anymore. It was just, that I did not have time to read carefully the instructions on how to react on the history of an article. I am sorry, but what can I do, now it's too late. And I think, I also don't know now how to use a discussion section on Wiki and doing things wrong and posting things wrong. Have a good day! 85.127.163.176 ( talk) 16:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
If a user expanded a new article (still within it's first five days) from a stub not eligible for DYK due to it's length, can that author who has the overwhelming bulk of the edits list himself as that article's author when nominating it for DYK even if he did not create that page?-- Supertouch ( talk) 23:41, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
|expander=
. But it doesn't really matter, the credits given out are all the same.
rʨanaɢ
talk/
contribs 23:56, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
For this. I never got around to updating that number, so it's good that you stepped in. Cheers, Dabomb87 ( talk) 13:26, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
Hello. Please be aware that I have opened an RfC about the conduct of PCPP ( talk · contribs).-- Asdfg 12345 01:13, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Can you explain to me what is going on there? You say have protected the article due to a content dispute, and yet you have only semi-protected it. Essentially, whether intentionally or not, you have used your adminship to take sides in the content dispute (by preventing only the anonymous editor from editing). This is the reason that {{ pp-dispute}} doesn't work on semi-protected articles, I believe. In addition, you yourself seem to be one of the ones engaged in the content dispute, so it appears you shouldn't have been acting as an administrator there anyway. Dominic· t 09:01, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
You have mail. Cheers - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 12:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Respectfully, in the interests of our mutual understanding of what is appropriate/inappropriate, and of defending myself against your characterization in the edit summary, I'm a little confused about your characterization of my summary as "jabs" and of JB50000 as defenseless. While the infractions outlined in that RfE were part of the block, they were not the whole of the block, and I suppose because of the technicality that official warnings were required, the real last straw was for offenses that are not mentioned at the RfC, the stealth canvassing/ campaigning and the fact (not to mention temerity) that he would go so far as to ask the administrator who was telling him that he wasn't being tag-teamed against that the admin join him in tag-teaming against others. Is it not appropriate to note the further step taken that was the straw that broke the camel's back?
Would you clarify what parts of that post were these plural jabs, as opposed to a neutral summary? Respectfully, it seems like a jab at me, to suggest that my brief summary of the blockable offense of a habitual offender (again, not a recap of the whole thing, but an acknowledgement of what wasn't already a part of the RfE) was an attack on a defenseless person. As I merely encapsulated the posts at his talk page in the official block explanation, the defense would be to allege that they are untrue or unfair, and the block unwarranted, not my brief acknowledgement of them in the note here. My only characterizations that did not appear in the block itself were my positive observations of the admin (exceptional amount of goodwill and patience; helpfully).
Finally, if my wording was too much, might it not be that yours is too little?
I'll watch this page for your response. Thanks for your help with my understanding of these matters, Abrazame ( talk) 01:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, just a little suggested tweak, I've noticed the string {{-}}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line--> appears right below the rest of the output, so that a lot of people ignore it and post below the string. Any chance you could leave some whitespace between the string and the rest of the output? That way I wouldn't have to keep moving the string to the right place :) Gatoclass ( talk) 11:59, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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The Refdesk Barnstar
Your answer was exactly what I needed; you deserve this! DRosenbach ( Talk |
Hello. Just per your warning on my talk page, I wasn't trying to "spin" anything related to my editing - as I've noted, I stopped editing on the article once I hit my third reversion. I haven't tried to defend my edits or reversions (simply saying "I want less information, he wants more"). I don't want to be a WP:DICK here, but to say you'll give me a warning instead of a block, when I've only made five edits on the article since June of last year (all of which were today - three of which were reversions and hence within 3RR) seems a bit over zealous. As I said on WP:ANI, Cliché's attitude was the reason I brought it there, the 3RR/article issues were very much a side point. Don't feel like you have to reply, just wanted to say it. Thanks! Fin © ™ 18:38, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
The Daily Journal no longer exists in Venezuela, therefore the Correo del Orinoco International is the only English-language newspaper in Venezuela and the first created during the Chavez administration and the XXIst Century. This is not a lie. ˜˜˜˜ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Evagolinger1 ( talk • contribs) 19:03, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
the problem I had a few weeks ago surfaces repeatedly. the person uses a changing IP and slaps warning-templates around, bite newcomers from the get go. Now s/he reports another user at ANI, whining about Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Anti-IP_bias. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 07:24, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your input. Apparently this editor has this thing about wanting to remain an anon-IP, according to the talk page. I suspect it is so that he or she can avoid being disciplined for his or her actions. The sad thing is that this editor has done a fair amount of useful stuff on new pages and the like, but tends to throw warning tags around like a new football referee out to let everyone know he's on the field. - Realkyhick ( Talk to me) 07:36, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Hey Rjanag. I cut and pasted and then modified. I find the dyk formating confusing, to say the least. Did I mess up? Ceoil sláinte 08:41, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you for your careful copyedits. You probably put Adam Scriveyn to shame. Drmies ( talk) 05:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC) |
Hehehe. Thanks! rʨanaɢ talk/ contribs 05:31, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
<--I was hoping to give you a present (by removing a cn-tag and replacing with a cite) but was unable to do so. Instead, I had to settle for this. I noticed there are two different citation formats, and I stuck with the templates I always use--I hope that's OK with you, and the article isn't consistent anyway. Happy days! Drmies ( talk) 13:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. It was just a typo mistake. Tintor2 ( talk) 15:25, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi, do you remember last weekend when vandal/xbox fanboy Falcon9x5 came in the Ferrari Challenge (video game) article i was editing, nobody edited it since 2008 when i came up to clean it up, to add infos and then Falcon9x5 popped in the same day and removed my informations from the article starting an edit war (he did it before coming in articles i edit) then reporting me to the administrators noticeboard trying to get a ban on me so he could follow his detestable agenda. now i caught him adding negative and false claims on a playstation 3 title then removing negative but true facts in another article. this editor is known for, shorts, insignificant edits, he mostly removes informations added by other editors using his personal interpretation of WP:GAMECRUSH and following an obvious agenda. i already saw him following my contributions and reverting my edits in articles. basically he promotes the xbox360 games and gives negative view to playstation 3 games which is the rival console. for example in the Final Fantasy XIII article, he first added a 576p native resolution to the playstation 3 version -basically this means the ps3 version does not support HD 720p but a much lower quality SD 576p- here [11]. then an other editor corrected this false claim, adding xbox360 to the 576p resolution, which is a known and sourced fact. hence the ps3 version was 720p and xbox360 was 576p. so Falcon9x5 came back and removed the resolution infos -while it was him who added it in the first place as a negative aspect of the ps3 version- just because the truth was the ps3 version had actually a better quality, ps3 was 720p and xbox was 576p, then he removed the native resolution!! as simple as that, this is blatant vandalism. he does this often but now i caught him the hand in the honey pot, removing content like this is blatant vandalism, he is a vandal and an xbox360 fanboy indeed (admitedly he don't own a ps3 - but he edits ps3 article with negative infos...). (576 w/source; +eg review) - (rm unsourced 576p 360; asia release nn on en wiki; chinese trad release not for lead). thanks for holding an eye on this "editor". Cliché Online ( talk) 22:09, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Kindly note the WP:AE case above has just been filed. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 05:50, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the image file change. I hadn't realized that we couldn't use them. -- H E L LØ Ŧ H E R E 04:21, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the reminded, I myself forgot how long I have been here :D-- Truco 503 03:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Could you please assist with
User talk:Alefbe#Alefbe Deletions without discussions from bunch of articles
Thanks
Intothefire (
talk) 11:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
When you move a page, like you did at IGN, please make sure you also move the talk page. That's often difficult, because you can't automatically delete a talk page using Special:MovePage when moving a page. I fixed it now; I'm sure you'll be able to do it yourself next time. :) Ucucha 02:39, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your helpful input, at page Talk:No worries. Much appreciated, -- Cirt ( talk) 00:39, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag. Please desist from this coordinated wikihounding. I Robert May and the next edit is a vist from you - you have never edited the page AFAIK before. 2 days later your confederate SlimVirgin comes to attack the John Polkinghorne page, which she has never edited before, removing much of the information about his scientific career. When I object, you are immediately on the talk page of an article AFAIK you have never edited supporting Slim and trashing me. This is blatant hounding and COI editing. Please stop. NBeale ( talk) 10:26, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
( archived early)
...it appears that you also have at least one co-nom, if desired. Probably a few others that would volunteer for that too (if you want names, e-mail me!) I guess there's no better time to go through it :-) ( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 23:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
Should I remove this response? I truly feel he's going down some kind of WP:SOAP path, but I'm WP:AGFing and responding politely ... ( talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:15, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
You make a good point about using clinical terms. However, it seems like some characterization is in order. 'Sociopathic' has a meaning outside of a professional or clinical context and it's good English to use the word in that way. As a native speaker myself, Chigurh's lack of conscience seems to open the possibility of describing him that way accurately. (I wouldn't base anything on the book either way.) Perhaps it would be useful to propose an alternative. Sometimes the facts don't speak for themselves so we use summaries / characterizations. Thanks. -- Ring Cinema ( talk) 17:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
That would be nice but it seems that a summary is allowed. We don't have a problem saying many summary things about him (he's a man, a murderer, relentless, an embodiment of evil, etc.). I'm wondering if the line you're drawing isn't a bit artificial. 'Sociopathic' is a word in English that we should feel free to use correctly like any other. In fact, think of it this way: is there any evidence that he's not sociopathic? -- Ring Cinema ( talk) 00:01, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Do you consider this section to be even relevant to the main topic? I interpret this as someone trying to spread the heated dispute argument onto another article. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 00:24, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Back in July 2009 you moved Uyghur captives in Guantanamo to Uyghur detainees in Guantanamo. You didn't initiate a discussion of this move prior to the move. Your only explanation for your move was in your edit summary, where you asserted the previous title lapsed from WP:NPOV. I assume this was a good faith mistake, but, as I tried to explain at the requested moves page, it is actually the use of the term "detainee" that lapses from WP:NPOV. Geo Swan ( talk) 15:04, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
NativeForeigner Talk/ Contribs/ Vote! 02:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
see talk page for South Korea Kingj123 ( talk) 04:24, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
see what I put on talk page. I have already read the discussion in the past, actually if you have read it at all I was the participant of the discussion. Thanks. -- Kingj123 ( talk) 04:39, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, READ THE ARCHIVE, the new post I have just made is for new people like you.-- Kingj123 ( talk) 04:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
well I feel the same. -- Kingj123 ( talk) 04:46, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I assume that this is meant in a derogatory fashion? -- 194.81.33.9 ( talk) 13:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I seem to recall that you can read Japanese. Any chance you could review the "Perverted Criminal" nom at DYK suggestions? Gatoclass ( talk) 19:30, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm really sorry about that. I installed a package in my vector.js that doesn't work well with Chrome (my browser) and I think that's what prompted that error. I've never seen that happen before. UBER (talk) 06:16, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
see talk page-- Kingj123 ( talk) 13:30, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your cleanup! I've worked hard for years to make this article better, your edit was spot on, something I had not thought of and am surprised I didn't. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) ( talk) 02:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
Since I might be biased here, I'm seeking your input: look at the edit history if White South African and tell me whether or not words like "spurious" are NPOV. I just gave a 3RR to [12] to Rgherbert ( talk · contribs), but don't want to revert again. thanks. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 06:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
You should honestly just delete it. It seems that ZHU Yeyi is using multiple accounts to try to sway the discussion at this point and the French Wikipedia user Yug has no idea what he is talking about.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龙) 19:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Dear friend:
How to complain? 如何投诉?Comment porter plainte?
M. Ryulong systematically attacked me.
Today, he even thinks that an IP China IP and Europe are my two Sockpuppets. Thank you. -- ZHU Yeyi ( talk) 19:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
请教您,怎样投诉。投诉人身攻击 personal attack。 How to complain? Please. 如何投诉?Comment porter plainte? 谢谢。 -- ZHU Yeyi ( talk) 18:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
I've sent you an email. regards, -- Quiddity ( talk) 19:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
I feel responsible for bringing the invalidity of the sentence element page to your attention. It needs to go somewhere besides null or an unattainable place on someone's hard drive. I've been making amateur steps at citing sources in an attempt of saving that page. Please bear with me. I've been using other Wikipedia pages as source citing examples. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.40.202.134 ( talk) 16:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
You are a great guy! Thanks for being so excellent. Kingj123 ( talk) 02:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
... uhm ok. See talk page.-- Kingj123 ( talk) 02:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
I know it's a little late but thanks for your happy birthday message on my talk page. It was really nice of you. -- Patrice58 ( talk) 13:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
How do I enter Hong Kong Government Cantonese Romanisation?? Hoising ( talk) 12:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
{{
zh}}
. You can enter it using {{
zh-full}}
instead. It would look something like this:{{zh-full | {{zh-chinese|你好}} | {{zh-hkgov|<romanization here>}} }}
Why did you delete this person's edit request? Celestra ( talk) 21:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
What is the reason? As far as I can see, their only function is to clutter up the suggestions page. Ucucha 00:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
{{-}}
, which creates a bunch of unnecessary whitespace and lengthens the page.
rʨanaɢ (
talk) 00:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi. Regarding Talk:Linguistics: That article has been semi-protected for almost a year (May 2009). Perhaps we could try unprotecting it? Unless Supriyya is still being a problem elsewhere...
Regarding notdict, the discussion isn't going well. I'll try my hardest to ignore it until next week, unless you advise otherwise...
Thanks again. -- Quiddity ( talk) 22:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
Hello-
I've edited most of the viral video page now. I was working on it this morning when I realized that there are two glaring issues that need to be addressed. One is the "History" section. In it there are two consecutive paragraphs that repeat the same information, mainly about the "Dancing Baby" video. The third sentence of the second paragraph also contains the same info, namely that early viral videos were spread by email, since YouTube etc didn't yet exist. The only new info in the second paragraph refers to "Tunak Tunak Tun" and "All your base are belong to us" - two sentences.
There's also another problem, which is that there are ten (10) examples of viral videos in the lead. It's way too much for a lead. There are more examples of viral videos in the lead than in the whole article. It not only weighs the lead down with too much information but doesn't read well.
This is my suggestion. Since the lead has several examples of early viral videos, why not not pare it down to three or four good examples of viral vids (both early and later ones), and use the rest to fill out the "early history" section? It seems like the perfect answer to both problems. The excess info in the lead is exactly what the early history section needs.
Also, some of the info from the first paragraph of the history should be re-worked into the "early history" section. Why not make the first paragraph more of a brief, historical overview and save the information regarding early videos for the early history section?
I was going to do this edit but it's quite extensive, and I would need your help. I don't know enough about the videos mentioned in the lead to judge which should be moved into the early history section and which should remain where they are. I think you'd be better at judging that, since you have a better working knowledge of the subject.
I think what I'm going to do is start by integrating the two paragraphs in the history. I may have to temporarily delete the "early history" subcategory, because there will only be two sentences left once the redundant info is deleted, but I can re-create it as soon as you let me know which ones you think should be used in the early history. I'm going to copy them out and can re-insert them when I have the rest of the information that I need.
Please let me know what you think about all of this. :)
Best-
Viralvidkid ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC).
I think you are being unreasonable in deleting what I have written, when it is obviously relevant and well-referenced. You are engaging in edit wars. No me, since I have re-written substantially. You delete without giving good reasons. You can edit to improve it if you wish.
Yewhock ( talk) 05:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
May I ask you to check some of the Tibetan romanizations at 2010 Yushu earthquake? Some of them are awkwardly written in pinyin... Colipon+( Talk) 15:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
I don't know who you are, but your edit at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (icons) is an outright fabrication that is a direct attack on my reputation and appears to have been deliberately done to discredit me. I request that you remove this and show the good manners to apologize. Handicapper ( talk) 21:07, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, I currently have an article on a Sparks album at FAC. Reflecting on the nomination, it's occurred to me that the article doesn't have an audio sample yet. Could you tell me how I go about creating one? Also, if you'd like to review the article, the FAC page is at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/The Seduction of Ingmar Bergman/archive1. Cheers, -- JN 466 10:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
Just a quick note to say thank you for keeping an eye on the Eva Peron article and keeping out the nonsense people put in there. I had suggested we lock the article because the vandalism of that article is often offensively sexually explicit. Andrew Olivo Parodi ( talk) 20:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
It would be great if you could comment here if it is still open for comment. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:21, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey, trying to avoid an edit war here, let's figure this out. :)
I agree that the suicide isn't what makes it violence. Bullying is considered violence even if the bullying isn't physical. To quote from the Wikipedia article on violence... "Violence is the expression of physical or verbal force against self or other" I believe that the inclusion of the child is therefore correct. I do think that this is a somewhat less clearcut case than the other reasoning, though. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. :) -- Joe Decker ( talk) 16:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
In your last revert, you wrote, "rv: the point is, HHG redirects here, so someone typing that while looking for High Harmonic Generation might end up here instead". I agree with what you wrote but, unfortunately, that is not what the {{ dablink}} text says. It actually says:
This article is about the franchise. Several terms redirect here; see The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (disambiguation), Hitchhiker's Guide (disambiguation) and High Harmonic Generation.
And High Harmonic Generation does not redirect here. In fact, none of the three pages listed redirects here. So what the {{ dablink}} text says is wrong, and so misleading. You did not like my solution to this problem; do you have a solution? (Please respond here or on the article's Talk page.) HairyWombat ( talk) 01:43, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Good suggestion; I have incorporated it into the article. (If I was confused then others also would have been.) HairyWombat ( talk) 22:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
hi,
i'm trying to change the profile pic of leehom wang as the current one is way outdated. I have a pic that was taken by ourhome china and posted on their website. How do i upload it?
Hi,
My name is Prashant Jain. I am a new member to Wikipedia. I am a great sport lover and wish to share my part of information on Wikipedia. I have provided some information with one external link, but it seems like due to some mistake, my link has been deleted. With reference to "My Contribution" i came to know that you have removed my link.
I read and tried to follow all the link policy guidelines provided by Wikipedia, but wondering why my link has been removed, would be great if you can guide me on the same.
Looking forward for your guidance and advice on link policy.
Best Regards,
Prahsant Jain
Hi,
Thanks for your valuable suggestion, i will read the guidelines suggested by you and will write content accordingly.
Best Regards,
Prashant Jain
Thanks for your help a few days Rjanag; unfortunately, the provider of the email address I used is having some technical difficulties and I have no idea how long it's going to take before I can access those emails again (2 hours? 2 days?). I have now changed my email address here on WP to a more reliable and up-to-date address anyway; it's my username (including the numbers) at gmail.com. If it's easy, would you mind posting them over again? If it's not, don't worry, I'll wait it out, but I thought I might as well ask. Thanks, - Jarry1250 Humorous? Discuss. 16:22, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
sorry for the reverts, I just want the lead to be neutral and let the readers make their own decision. This seems like my own OR, so I want to tread carefully.
It seems as if one organisation has been forced to accept the documents provided (passport etc) but there is overwhelming evidence (removed files online etc) that something dodgy is going on behind the scenes. I think either both points need to be in the lead, or none.
Not everyone has accepted the Chinese side of things, there are still a lot of reliable sources who believe she was 14 not 16 and enough evidence to support their claims.
I don't want to start an investigation into this, or change the article into a witch hunt, but the lead should either reflect that the controversy is not over, or at least it should not lead people to believe that she has been proven without any doubt to be 16.
what do you think? カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! ( talk) 10:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Hey, that's great its at FAC, nice work! :) To be honest, I don't have opinion on the flag use - I added the reactions as they came in and flags made it easier as is the case with many other articles, so reading your comment I agree it makes it easier visually, rather than a load of text. But noting the other users concerns, it would make sense to either change them to the "link alt" thing. Bolding is fine but I think I prefer the first option, though I'm happy with either outcome. Sorry I'm not much use, I'm not really familiar with Wikipedia policies in this respect! Midway ( talk) 23:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
|work=
(from |publisher=
or |agency=
) because that seemed to be what
Template:cite news suggested. Based on my reading of it, it sounded like |agency=
is only supposed to be used for the agency that wrote and supplied the article (i.e., it's sort of a replacement for |author=
) and generally only when that differs from the newspaper/website where we found it (for example, a China Daily article that says the source is Xinhua, or something on ABC news that says the source is AP). Anyway, long story short, the italicization is probably a result of that change.Sorry about not getting back to you sooner. I didn't do much wiki editing over the break, but I've been doing way too much eding for the Haiti earthquake articles over the last week. I put together some info that could be used on this temporary page User:David_Straub/urumqiriotsedit. I think the main problem with the Urumqi riots at the moment is that it includes almost no information concerning government claims that the riots were orchestrated by a terrorist separatist group in Xinjiang. I don't believe the claims of the government, but most Chinese do. I think that adding one section that explains the views of the government by using articles from mouthpiece sources such as the China Daily would both informative and at least alleviate some of the concerns of Chinese that their views be heard. But I won't worry that this is endorsing their views. I think it is just more likely to reveal how ridiculous their claims are. Review what I put together and let me know what you think/want to do with it. I'm a little busy right now, so if you want to add some of the text to the main article, feel free to do so.
Actually, I down loaded an pirated copy of Colin Legerton's book, but I didn't read it yet. He's in CEUS. I took a class with him last year.
Take care. David Straub ( talk) 20:49, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the invitation to comment on that article, but, after reading it, I don't think I can suggest any meaningful improvement or offer any meaningful criticism.
Well, OK, there is this one sentence, with a reference to a paper by Dru Gladney: "China's minority policy treats Uyghurs as a 'national minority' rather than an indigenous group." I am sure Dr. Gladney's paper (which I did not look at) probably explains what is meant by these words - he is a major writer on these issues, after all. But to a casual reader this statement sounds rather cryptic. I think that to an average person an "indigenous group" simply is an "ethnic minority" that is officially recognized as having a long-term association with a certain geographic area, and is officially granted certain special rights on account of that association. One would think that the (official) status of the Weiwu'er minzu in PRC -- with the XUAR on the maps, a 维吾尔民族简史 publsihed, an official bilingualism of sorts, and the policy of appointing members of the " titular nationality" to the (possibly figurehead) leadership positions in the region -- makes them just as "officially indigenous" to the region as the Nisga'a are to the Nass River Valley or the Buryats to Buryatia. So if I were to write this, I would perhaps try to explain what Gladney's dichotomy means.
Thinking of it, the preceding sentence "Uyghurs believe their ancestors were indigenous to the area, whereas government policy considers present-day Xinjiang to have belonged to China since the Han Dynasty", with its "whereas", implies a contradiction of the two point of views, even if it does not explicitly say that there is one. I certainly can imagine some kind of 维吾尔民族简史 talking about 我国维吾尔民族 happily living in the area in 100 BC (or wherever), in such-and-such commandery of the Western Han Dynasty empire...
Please feel free to ignore these comments, or to move them to an appropriate talk page elsewhere.
On an unrelated issue: could you insert proper Uyghur letters into Musa Sayrami, Yaqub Beg, Afaq Khoja, and Muzat River, sometimes when/if you have a chance? Official bilingualism or not, my Atlas of Xinjiang certainly does not have any 少数民族文字 in it! Vmenkov ( talk) 12:05, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I'm thinking... just in case the FAC goes through... We're gonna have to find a picture that's suitable for the front-page... I don't think any of the ones we have right now are good for that... (unless you want the damn map, but that'd be kinda cheesy...) Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:41, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag, How can this be used for Wikipedia? Kind regards, Sarcelles ( talk) 16:54, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I have added a Vietnamese entry to match the other three examples given, but I have no idea on how to explain which variant characters are used, and how many have limited Unicode support. There are obviously characters that are more preferable to others, but most would be unable to have them displayed correctly. Do you have any idea on how I can get around this? My meddling can be found at User:Benlisquare/Sandbox2#Viet if you are interested. Cheers, -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 05:10, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
It's infuriating, this linkrot. The lack of archiving by those archiving sites we use, also. If we kept copies of the articles on our hard disk, at least we can still refer to them although they will no longer be available publicly. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 00:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
Regarding [16]: nerdiness deserves praise, not pardon! Actually that quote is what I thought of when I read his question, too. — Knowledge Seeker দ 17:47, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough. Zweifel ( talk) 22:02, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
You asked User Iqinn whether Abdul Haq (ETIM) was the same as Abdul Haq (Uyghur camp leader).
Thomas Joscelyn has asserted that Abdul Haq (ETIM) was the same individual who lead the Uyghur camp, and that he was the manager of a Uyghur guest house. To the best of my knowledge, all claims that the two individuals are the same can be traced to Joscelyen.
I've wondered whether we should regard Josceleyn as a WP:RS. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, a professional commentator. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, an academic who has studied politics, or military matters, or intelligence, or the law. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, someone who was a respected columnist or journalist, prior to starting to blog on the GWOT. He is not, to the best of my knowledge, a former intelligence officer.
It seems to me that he is just some guy who has taken the time to read the same documents I have. On a personal level I don't consider his conclusions any more reliable than I regard my own. Frankly, if I was a blogger I would blog in an intellectually honest manner. I'd never simply leave off from informing my readers of exculpatory information. Joscelyn does this all this time. His claim that the two Abdul Haq(s) are one individual being a case in point. While he informs his readers that some of Uyghurs reported their camp leader was named Abdul Haq he neglects to inform them that the Ugyhurs say he was killed during the American aerial bombardment, back in 2001.
On the other hand, some legitimate journalists do cite him in their articles. And he has been invited to testify before at least one US Congressional committee.
Abdul Haq is clearly a very common name. On a personal level I suspect that the several hundred, or several thousance, Uyghur exiles in the region probably included many individuals known as Abdul Haq.
Intelligence analysts have described the ETIM as a well-organized and dangerous militant group. If Abdul Haq (Uyghur camp leader) was really the 2nd in command of the ETIM, then it is hard to understand how the ETIM could have been as dangerous as intelligence analysts feared. How dangerous could the group have been if the ETIM's 2nd in command, and those he was leading, were armed with just a single AK-47?
So should Abdul Haq (ETIM) say he also lead the Uyghur camp in Nangarhar? IMO it should certainly not assert this as a fact. It should not assert this as a claim of US intelligence analysts. I have no objection to the Abdul Haq (ETIM) article stating that Thomas Joscelyn asserts he also lead the Nangarhar camp.
If this assertion is included, attributed to Josceylen, should it note that he was reported KIA in 2009, while the Nangarhar camp leader was reported KIA in 2001? I dunno. Geo Swan ( talk) 23:05, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
I suggested some alternative hooks for the Robert Krentz DYK nomination. Would love it if you'd take another look. :-) Thanks! — Rnickel ( talk) 18:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the fixes. I saw the error with the link to .ogg, and found you fixed that too. - Stevertigo ( w | t | e) 04:01, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with the first revert, as I did not pay attention to what code came through subclusion. I filed a bug recently, https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23388 regarding hatnote issues.
I agree with the second revert, though I will point out that the section does need expanding. Please see also recent discussion on wikien about IPA, in particular, comments negative toward IPA and, by default, in support of that Wikipedia:Pronunciation respelling key. PS: The issue with phonology vs. pronunciation is one of excess information, which is why I think there is resistance to IPA per se. - Stevertigo ( w | t | e) 04:34, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag,
Please explain in detail why you think this page is spam. You recently deleted it saying it was blatant advertising. You are incorrect in this assumption. The page accurately describes a noteworthy gym in one of the fastest growing sports in the world. If this page is spam, then every other page describing all the other noteworthy mixed martial arts facilities described in Wikipedia should be described as spam as well and also deleted.
If you have suggestions for improvement, then kindly provide them on a page that is completely factual. Otherwise, please do not try to re-delete the page or I will think you have some personal bias against the gym specifically. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmasource ( talk • contribs) 08:56, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Why did you undo my edit of The Dark Knight (film)? Your edit made the page say, "The Dark Knight is a 2008 superhero directed and co-written by Christopher Nolan." I changed it to say that it is a "2008 superhero film directed and co-written by Christopher Nolan." The movie is a "superhero film," not a "superhero.". -5- ( talk) 18:24, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag,
Not sure if you actually read through the updates I recently included in the page you just reverted, but there are 2 additional citations from Sherdog, the largest MMA news site in the world, and an actual newspaper article that came out last night regarding one of the fighters/trainers at The Arena. Additionally, I have included links from both Sherdog.com and Mixedmartialarts.com that list The Arena as an official team site, which is hard to do unless you are one. So kindly stop getting into an edit war and claiming there aren't 3rd party verification when there are right on the page.
Additionally, since you are the one who deleted The Arena MMA page in the first place, please read the following I wrote to another Wikipedia user who got involved in this whole deletion situation. I think if you actually take the time you read my response, as well as visit all the links I have provided in this repsonse, you will realize you are in error in attempting to delete this page. Thanks.
Benlisquare,
I apologize in advance if I am not following all protocols with your Talk page, but I am relatively new to Wikipedia and am not completely familiar with certain things like how to best communicate on the Talk pages and the different users who contribute to them. Since you clearly are an expert in this area, please help me correct whatever issues I need to do in the future.
As far as your concerns/comments, as well as those of others, I am a bit surprised. I created the page on The Arena because I am an avid follower of MMA and The Arena is one of the fastest growing MMA teams in the country and deserves inclusion in Wikipedia on these merits. Particularly given the fact that many of the MMA teams listed in Wikipedia are no longer as notable as The Arena is because the sport is so dynamic and much of the information regarding these teams and their fighters is non-current. Also, my interest in The Arena and its fighters qualifies me as a supporter of the gym/team, not as a conflict of interest.
As far as how I set up the page and what I included, I attempted to follow the format used for the other MMA team pages included in Wikipedia so The Arena MMA page would best fit in. So, if The Arena MMA page is promotional, then I imagine the other MMA team pages should be included in that category as well.
As far as verification of The Arena and its athletes...
1. The team is young and most newspapers do not cover much of MMA. In fact, I honestly do not think newspapers qualify as a reliable source for MMA info as much is reformatted from other sources. However, having said that, you can find recent mention of The Arena and its team members like Olympic Silver Medalist Stephen Abas at the following locations.
http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/04/07/1887820/ex-dog-abas-sets-mma-dates-at.html
Additionally, I have included several other online mentions of The Arena from sites that are more relevant to MMA such as:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=news.detail&gid=228200
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/4/2/1402864/2004-olympic-silver-medalist
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Olympic-Silver-Medalist-Abas-Signs-with-Tachi-Palace-Fights-23624
http://www.doseofmma.com/3700/rani-yahya-constrictor-bjj-hl/
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/12-Questions-for-Cris-Cyborg-Santos-22251
2. There are also numerous videos available online of various fighters representing The Arena during their fights, notably Diego Sanchez (who has The Arena logo on his shorts, shirt, and banner) during his most recent fight against BJ Penn on 12/12/2009, as well as Cris "Cyborg" Santos during her last Strikeforce title defense against Marloes Coenen on 1/30/2010. These fights can be found online. Additionally, the UFC Countdown Video Segment for Diego Sanchez that was aired nationally on Spike TV prior to the fight was conducted at The Arena and clearly showed The Arena in the segment.
3. There are also other videos available on The Arena's website itself, as well as YouTube, from third parties such as Bad Boy Brands that show fighters such as Demian Maia (UFC) and Diego Sanchez (UFC) training at The Arena. These videos can be found here at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHEXvWGfnYA&NR=1 and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy1VNA7YLWQ and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx3IXyqXiLI
Additionally, there are videos actually produced by The Arena that clearly show Fabricio Camoes (UFC), Rodrigo Nogueira (UFC), Rani Yahya (WEC), Royler Gracie (4x BJJ world champ), Joe Duarte (Bellator), etc. training at The Arena. These videos are located at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xrUSGWN0BA and: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_lI8tccuxw
4. Finally, both mixedmartialarts.com (the official resource for all MMA fighter records) and sherdog.com (the largest, most recognized, and one of the oldest MMA sites in existence) has The Arena listed as an offical team. You can find the links here at:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=home.link and:
These two sites are tightly controlled and will not allow links to team sites that are not official and recognizable.
Given all this evidence that you can judge for yourself if you take the time to visit all the sites I have provided, particularly the online video locations (seeing is believing), I cannot understand how anyone could not regard The Arena MMA page as legitimate, as well as the actual gym itself.
I don't know how much the Wikipedia members who commented on the legitimacy of The Arena MMA page actually know about the sport of MMA, but there is absolutely no way these types of MMA athletes would be involved with The Arena if it was not 100% legitimate and deserving of recognition. Even independent Yelp reviewers mention this fact (see here at: http://www.yelp.com/biz/the-arena-mma-san-diego
Please let me know how to best improve the page if it actually needs to be improved given all the documentation I have just provided. Additionally, please share this information with the other Wikipedia members who made comments on the Talk Page as I am unsure how to communicate with everyone simulataneously.
Thank You,
mmasource
Mmasource ( talk) 07:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
Would someone be able to reply to User talk:Benlisquare#The Arena (MMA) Page, and/or maybe propogate it so that everyone is aware of his post? I'll be rather knot-tied tonight, and won't have the time to respond. Regards, -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 07:53, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
告诉用户 User:Miranda1989,叫他不要轻举妄动,不要擅自移除模板。我因为一时没空,无法有时间仔细查阅内容。还有,请告诉我哪里可以找到管理员(目前常上线的),为了避免突然状况,不排除告状并封禁此人。 -- 俠刀行 ( talk) 09:58, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
User:Epeefleche/Nicholas Beale, which you userfied, has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Epeefleche/Nicholas Beale. Cunard ( talk) 00:46, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Rjanag,
Just following up on this maintenance template issue. I have listed numerous 3rd party sources that should take of any issues you had with notability, verification, etc. However, now that I'm learning about Wikipedai protocol more, I'm trying to follow it as closely as possible. Is it OK to take the template down now that there have been numerous verifiable references added to the article? Mmasource ( talk) 19:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I guess I'm still a little unclear then. On my tp, you said "Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to The Arena (MMA), without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary." I thought I clearly resolved that problem by adding numerous 3rd party verifications subsequent to WP admins viewing the article and recommending deletion bc there wasn't enough 3rd party verifications. Now there are more than a few. In fact, in reviewing the other Mixed Martial Arts team pages, I noticed I have provided more 3rd party verification sources than almost any other MMA page. Are you saying that these 3rd party verifications are not sufficient, particularly compared to the other pages in the same category. many of which use the same 3rd party verification sources i.e. sherdog.com to establish notability? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmasource ( talk • contribs) 00:46, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag,
would it make sense to write articles on mayors and deputies rather than labor camps? Kind regards, Sarcelles ( talk) 12:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I responded Tim 1357 talk 01:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello, you recently speedily deleted a page I created called Wikipedia_malamanteau_controversy, with the complaints, "Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSD A7). no independednt sources cited", however, both complaints are unmerited.
First, I clearly indicated the significance of the topic, with stats directly related to its significance:
"The page for Malamanteau received over 70,000 views[3] and 400[4] talk page edits within 24 hours of the creation of the page."
The wording of the above sentence is a bit ham handed, sure, but that alone doesn't merit deleting the page, forget speedy deletion.
Second, I also provided multiple independent sources. The Reddit page, the Askvile page, and the grok.se page are all independent from the parties involved.
Thanks, 8bit ( talk) 18:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
You are just needing to see replies on my talkpage! (couldn't resist the link)
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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
你还有留意到我之前的 翻译要求吗?最近又有人留言给你了(加上我也有),要不要解决上面的争论?误会好像越来越多。 -- 俠刀行 ( talk) 08:23, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi Rjanag
As mentioned above, I looked into a WP:3O request that had arisen from the use of a tag and the concerns over the use of that tag: discussion here.
One of the editors has posted on my talk page.
Are you able to communicate with this user? It seems clear to me that they can not understand the comment I left at the article's talk page, nor here on your talk page.
Many thanks! TFOWR propaganda 10:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
真是欲加之罪何患无辞。
我使用的IP地址是我工作的里昂一家教学医院的IP地址,另外G.G.使用的是国内一家大学的IP地址。这些IP流量大,日夜不休很是很正常的,但是不是代理Proxy。
GG确实是我认识的人,所以他投票的时候自己把选票划掉。应该说我们没有做过分的事情。
另外牵涉到一位用户是我的一个同事,我帮助她建了她第一个条目。她不会英语,也不会来英语版,也不参与的我的条目。我们当时不知道系统自动建立了个英语版帐号。因为我的帐号比较老,英语版、法语版、汉语版都是一次一次建立的。所以我给她建立的条目加了个英语版链接。结果她的英语帐号也被封了。她根本不会来英语版,但是不知道什么时候会为了英语版的这件事情,法语版的帐号被当作马甲被封。
我已经和几位管理员联系过了。有什么好说的呢?
Ryulong曾经扬言可以把我的帐号封掉,没想到是这种方式。尤其讨厌的是还无缘无故牵涉别人。我自己倒也算了,只是对其他受害者感到非常不好意思。
此外,关于上海话拼音的事情。那套输入法其实2004年就被Linux操作系统采用了。其实这套拼音的条目也是上海话的Phonology,对读者还是有意义的。什么也不用说了,管理员说不行就是不行。
上海话和维语不同,不受法律保护。拼音市场的混乱对教学推广都造成困难,促使灭亡。这就是2007那次被删除的原因。你也看到了那套一点线外资料都没有的Long-short一直好好。实际确实是有人故意整这套方案。
最后没有什么好说的。我只能做自己力所能及的事情。
-- 83.145.72.66 ( talk) 13:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I want to create a language.Would you help me?Be a language similar to Esperanto, but it will appeal to the East..I've started creating a few words.You can look at my English Dilyaratan page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dilyaratan -- Dilyaratan ( talk) 18:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
I've got university examinations in mid-June worth 70-80% of my subject marks for my four subjects... I'll be curbing my visits to Wikipedia soon. I've got all the time in the world after that. -- 李博杰 | — Talk contribs email 10:44, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
You might note that at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to
Fort Lee High School, also introduced some extraneous text around some numerical characters. This may be due to a combination of your browser and
Skype trying to identify and highlight telephone numbers. Thank you.--
Rumping (
talk) 23:27, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Today I discovered that someone moved Qing Dynasty personality Dorgon to Chengzong Emperor, and does not offer any reasons for doing so. Said user did this completely out of the blue, therefore by procedural rules alone I think it's safe to move it back... however, since I don't have administrative powers, I had to come here and ask for you to kindly do this for me. I hope it's not too much trouble. :) Colipon+( Talk) 23:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Then user colipon should have directed to me, he never leaved a message on my talk page or on the articles talk he just sneaked behind the table and asked for backup,so im at best just returning the favour of his rudness. One last, i only reverted one so i think you're exagerating it calling it edit warring, hope you'll gave him the same warning.-- Andres rojas22 ( talk) 01:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
your biased-- Andres rojas22 ( talk) 01:33, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Go ahead ban me, ill just think how will you explain banning a guy only cus he irritated you, some administrator you are-- Andres rojas22 ( talk) 04:06, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
A while back I began developing the townships of Xinjiang like Anningqu and it was I who requested the map of Xinijiang for pin. I wondered if you had access to sources or a list of townships. I wanted to work towards building up a coverage of Xinijang. My friend User:John Hill has done a lot of work on historical Xinjiang and the Silk Road but much modern content of townships is actually missing. Interesting region. I just hate it when people bring politics/predujices to the wikipedia place and which motivates/drives them. I seem to have encountered a misunderstanding with your friend Seb. He accused me of inserting PRC POV into the Tibet Museum article which I had not even noticed and it was genuinely innocent. This has upset me. As a result it has left me suspicious of his own political viewpoints and his reasons for developing the Urumqi riots article as he seems very politically minded and anti-PRC. It has made me question his reasons for spending so long on the article. I do hope I am wrong and that you both genuinely have no hidden issues. The article is very good and seems to be neutral thanks to the large scale collaboration on it but what I said about the coverage in western media being less I think is worthy of mentioning. Dr. Blofeld White cat 18:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Glad to hear that the article was not written by an Uyghur sympathizer. . But I couldn't agree more with your notion that "it would have been polite of you to notify the editors ". I'd appreciate the same from time to time... Lets not forget that I voted "support" for the Urumqi article. But what I saw happen over the Tibetan Museum which strongly implied to me a resentment of the Chinese and their propaganda by Seb, you can forgive me for suddenly being suspicious of him. The first work I saw that he did heavily was the Urumqi riots article. And I did say during the FAC how surprising it was that the article was developed so much when the Urumqi article itself is a lot poorer. Then that got me wondering why there was so much passion there in writing the article, as if it was done to identify the grievances facing the Ughyurs thats all.Everybody has a certain reason or motivation for writing an article. I just know that many people bring real world biases with them to wikipedia and implant it all over, I am very pleased to hear that neither you, Seb or the group that wrote the article do not bring their issues with them to wikipedia and try to make it neutral. Thanks for clearing that up. Dr. Blofeld White cat 19:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Please check out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lady. Thanks. Kitfoxxe ( talk) 02:24, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
In the suggested merge of Word (language) to Word you wrote, "Any content that is worth preserving can be brought over here, but there's no need for a full-on merge." Isn't that a definition of merging? <g>
I do agree that there is no need to merge everything at Word (language), and upon closer inspection (probably something I should have undertaken before supporting the proposal; bad on me) there is only one suggestion there that is supported by reliable sources. That is the description of semantic primitives, cited to work by Goddard and what I think is a textbook by Wierzbicka. I'm not sure if this should merged to Word, but think either it could be merged or else there could be a pointer to Semantic primes either in the text or as a See also.
Given the lack of well-sourced information, I would have no problem with a redirect without merge. I'll suggest as much at Talk:Word. Cnilep ( talk) 20:38, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi, the OTRS permission is pending since July 2009. Was the permission sent? If not, the image needs to be deleted. Regards Hekerui ( talk) 20:12, 31 May 2010 (UTC)