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I hear what your saying about the reason for the protests, the way I left it was too vague. I have a suggestion for the funeral protest section, and would like to know what you think about it.
Start ->
The leader of the
Westboro Baptist Church,
Fred Phelps, protested Matthew Shepards funeral because of Mr. Shepards sexual-orientation. The Westboro Baptist Church has gained notoriety from their
anti-gay protests and
funeral picketing.
[1]
-> End
Thank you for your time.
EzPz (
talk) 17:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Honestly, I'm not sure whether that will suffice. Let's face it: Phelps didn't gain notoriety by being homophobic (or "anti-gay"); he gained it by being as outrageously homophobic as he possibly could. Including one or two of his slogans may get that point across without the risk of editorializing. Your call. (If this discussion goes any further, we should probably move it to Talk:Matthew Shepard.) Rivertorch ( talk) 18:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, led by Fred Phelps, received national attention for picketing Shepard's funeral with signs bearing homophobic slogans.
That was great, Rivertorch, thanks.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 19:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Why are you adding your curriculum vitae as a reference to various articles? Rivertorch ( talk) 09:23, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
It looks as if links to pdf files of papers you authored or co-authored have become stale and that you're substituting a link to your CV. If I'm right, that doesn't seem like a very good idea. I'd suggest instead using the {{dead link}} tag pending the files' being hosted somewhere else. Or am I misreading things? I see that you've been reverted in several places, but we really should resolve this on all of the affected articles. Rivertorch ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, the pdf versions of papers and book are available in the "vita" link I included. Check before you complain! HK
Then just fix it to the relevant PDF file. No need to write "dead link" while there is an alternative link. Be helpful to the readers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkettani ( talk • contribs) 04:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Good point: I guess it would be "from a Sayers line in" not "from a line of Sayers in"... but I've just removed the name entirely, because it's not really necessary. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 16:27, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I typed a reply at the Mount Everest page, but it's rather long and way off-topic for that article, so I'm just pasting it here, incase you're interested in my answer to your question.. whether it makes your head spin is another question.
Ah that's why it's complicated. I'm moderately anti-monarchy and profusely anti-organised religion, so I tend to support or favour the way the French Revolution and Napoleonic reform changed Europe, destroying absolutism, freeing a lot of "peasants" from poverty (due to unfair taxes), and widening the rift between the Vatican, a much needed move for secularism to succeed, because the church are as bad as royalty for keeping the poor poor, yet they get rich and have power and are corrupt; Napoleon was never anti-religious, but never allowed any homophobic, misogynistic or other bigoted religious dogma to dominate people's lives, beyond what was the status quo for the time, that is. The UK, however, kept its monarchy, its own CofE church leaders, and the problems such a system inherits. I feel proud that we won Waterloo, that's normal patriotism, I wouldn't have wanted Wellington or any more of his troops to die for anyone, but I'm saddened that the UK didn't learn from Europe that not having royalty was in many ways better. I'd cheer for America gaining Independence, as the losses in that war were small compared to the potential of a prolonged Napoleonic War had he won Waterloo – you just know that Britain would never give up or let itself be invaded and the war would have dragged on. In the end I mourn more for Napoleon's actual death in 1821 and the ideologies that died with him, he was cruelly treated in exile, and Britain quickly pushed a new fat king onto France's throne. The fact they kept fighting until they became a Republic shows how much influence the Revolution and Napoleon had for many generations. All this EU bullshit is closer to Hitler's idea of Europe than Napoleon's, we're dictated to by foreign politicians and our own governments seem powerless to prevent abuses of the system, immigration, benefit abuses, expensive legal "human rights" claims by terrorists, murderers, pedos, rapists, drug dealers, and so forth. Napoleon was far from perfect, but he understood one thing – balance.. and I'm confident that Europe would have developed a much fairer set of democratic systems come the 21st century were it not for his defeat. I also doubt WWI and II would have resulted if Napoleon had remained in power.. those wars originate from the nationalism which resulted from his defeat and warring counties becoming more paranoid about their neighbours, the British Empire which followed gradually declined after the world wars, for various reasons. It's a shame France and Britain never saw eye-to-eye, a joined French–British Empire might have done much good for the world, instead they held grudges dating back to medieval days and both lost in the end. In truth, I probably blame Britain more than I blame France but the actual politics behind everything that was going on in the world at that time is not so straight-forward. Strong leadership is sometimes needed to bring everyone together, to reassert common goals, even if it goes against the notions of a true-democracy. Ma®©usBritish{ chat} 22:16, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
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A friend notified me that various groups (some who love him, and some who hate him, all off wikipedia I hope) were claiming Mandela was an atheist even though he was a Protestant. I forgot that Mandela's article is in semi-lock so they can change it. -- Protostan ( talk) 17:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. Can you offer your opinion in this discussion regarding the better photo for an article Infobox? Thanks, and Happy Holidays. Nightscream ( talk) 23:45, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Not sure if you read it but the content i deleted included a legal threat that a user had sent the IP of another to the SPLC to sue them, and referred to the user as "homogenous kooks" or something. Admittedly I'm not an experienced user, but if that's not personal attacks and threats then I don't know why you have these rules in the first place, sorry Tátótát ( talk) 18:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
Hey Rivertorch. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.
We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.
Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:33, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I hear what your saying about the reason for the protests, the way I left it was too vague. I have a suggestion for the funeral protest section, and would like to know what you think about it.
Start ->
The leader of the
Westboro Baptist Church,
Fred Phelps, protested Matthew Shepards funeral because of Mr. Shepards sexual-orientation. The Westboro Baptist Church has gained notoriety from their
anti-gay protests and
funeral picketing.
[1]
-> End
Thank you for your time.
EzPz (
talk) 17:36, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Honestly, I'm not sure whether that will suffice. Let's face it: Phelps didn't gain notoriety by being homophobic (or "anti-gay"); he gained it by being as outrageously homophobic as he possibly could. Including one or two of his slogans may get that point across without the risk of editorializing. Your call. (If this discussion goes any further, we should probably move it to Talk:Matthew Shepard.) Rivertorch ( talk) 18:42, 15 September 2013 (UTC)Members of the Westboro Baptist Church, led by Fred Phelps, received national attention for picketing Shepard's funeral with signs bearing homophobic slogans.
That was great, Rivertorch, thanks.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 19:12, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello. Why are you adding your curriculum vitae as a reference to various articles? Rivertorch ( talk) 09:23, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
It looks as if links to pdf files of papers you authored or co-authored have become stale and that you're substituting a link to your CV. If I'm right, that doesn't seem like a very good idea. I'd suggest instead using the {{dead link}} tag pending the files' being hosted somewhere else. Or am I misreading things? I see that you've been reverted in several places, but we really should resolve this on all of the affected articles. Rivertorch ( talk) 20:09, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
Hey, the pdf versions of papers and book are available in the "vita" link I included. Check before you complain! HK
Then just fix it to the relevant PDF file. No need to write "dead link" while there is an alternative link. Be helpful to the readers! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hkettani ( talk • contribs) 04:38, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Good point: I guess it would be "from a Sayers line in" not "from a line of Sayers in"... but I've just removed the name entirely, because it's not really necessary. - DavidWBrooks ( talk) 16:27, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. Can you offer your opinion on which photo would be better for the Rebecca Housel Infobox in this discussion? If you are unable to, I understand; you don't have to reply to this message. Thanks. Nightscream ( talk) 03:36, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I typed a reply at the Mount Everest page, but it's rather long and way off-topic for that article, so I'm just pasting it here, incase you're interested in my answer to your question.. whether it makes your head spin is another question.
Ah that's why it's complicated. I'm moderately anti-monarchy and profusely anti-organised religion, so I tend to support or favour the way the French Revolution and Napoleonic reform changed Europe, destroying absolutism, freeing a lot of "peasants" from poverty (due to unfair taxes), and widening the rift between the Vatican, a much needed move for secularism to succeed, because the church are as bad as royalty for keeping the poor poor, yet they get rich and have power and are corrupt; Napoleon was never anti-religious, but never allowed any homophobic, misogynistic or other bigoted religious dogma to dominate people's lives, beyond what was the status quo for the time, that is. The UK, however, kept its monarchy, its own CofE church leaders, and the problems such a system inherits. I feel proud that we won Waterloo, that's normal patriotism, I wouldn't have wanted Wellington or any more of his troops to die for anyone, but I'm saddened that the UK didn't learn from Europe that not having royalty was in many ways better. I'd cheer for America gaining Independence, as the losses in that war were small compared to the potential of a prolonged Napoleonic War had he won Waterloo – you just know that Britain would never give up or let itself be invaded and the war would have dragged on. In the end I mourn more for Napoleon's actual death in 1821 and the ideologies that died with him, he was cruelly treated in exile, and Britain quickly pushed a new fat king onto France's throne. The fact they kept fighting until they became a Republic shows how much influence the Revolution and Napoleon had for many generations. All this EU bullshit is closer to Hitler's idea of Europe than Napoleon's, we're dictated to by foreign politicians and our own governments seem powerless to prevent abuses of the system, immigration, benefit abuses, expensive legal "human rights" claims by terrorists, murderers, pedos, rapists, drug dealers, and so forth. Napoleon was far from perfect, but he understood one thing – balance.. and I'm confident that Europe would have developed a much fairer set of democratic systems come the 21st century were it not for his defeat. I also doubt WWI and II would have resulted if Napoleon had remained in power.. those wars originate from the nationalism which resulted from his defeat and warring counties becoming more paranoid about their neighbours, the British Empire which followed gradually declined after the world wars, for various reasons. It's a shame France and Britain never saw eye-to-eye, a joined French–British Empire might have done much good for the world, instead they held grudges dating back to medieval days and both lost in the end. In truth, I probably blame Britain more than I blame France but the actual politics behind everything that was going on in the world at that time is not so straight-forward. Strong leadership is sometimes needed to bring everyone together, to reassert common goals, even if it goes against the notions of a true-democracy. Ma®©usBritish{ chat} 22:16, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi t | c 14:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
A friend notified me that various groups (some who love him, and some who hate him, all off wikipedia I hope) were claiming Mandela was an atheist even though he was a Protestant. I forgot that Mandela's article is in semi-lock so they can change it. -- Protostan ( talk) 17:53, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Fiddle Faddle is wishing you a Merry Christmas ( quite possibly a White Christmas.
Martinevans123
Santas Grotto wishes you and yours
"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"
May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace ....
Hi. Can you offer your opinion in this discussion regarding the better photo for an article Infobox? Thanks, and Happy Holidays. Nightscream ( talk) 23:45, 26 December 2013 (UTC)
Not sure if you read it but the content i deleted included a legal threat that a user had sent the IP of another to the SPLC to sue them, and referred to the user as "homogenous kooks" or something. Admittedly I'm not an experienced user, but if that's not personal attacks and threats then I don't know why you have these rules in the first place, sorry Tátótát ( talk) 18:12, 27 December 2013 (UTC)