Hi Rightandright
I've reverted your good faith changes to the Norsefire infobox; my reasoning is that Susan is no longer leader at the end of the comic - he's replaced by Creedy, who in turn is killed. Fascism is a better description of Norsefire's ideology than conservatism - I'm no conservative (as you can probably tell from my user page...) but it seems slight insulting to conflate conservatism with the actions of Norsefire - Britain between 1979 and 1997 bore no relation to Norsefire's Britain ;-)
I've also re-added Alan Moore's Cassandra statement - I'm not sure why you took it out but I think it adds to the article rather than detracts.
I've not touched anything else - I agree with the rest of your edits and accept that these edits were made in good faith too.
Cheers, This flag once was red 00:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Why does it matter that Moore's commentary isn't from the comic?
It's referenced, and it helps the reader understand why Moore believed the UK in the 1990s would be as it was portrayed in V for Vendetta.
It's been in the article for a very long time, and I for one would be very opposed to removing it for such spurious reasons.
Cheers, This flag once was red 20:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Please refrain from making changes to core articles with regards to Europe. The pre-existing wording has been agreed upon for a very long time, and reflects the wording used in other commercial encyclopedias. If you wish to propose a change, please use the talk page and secure a consensus. -- Jza84 | Talk 22:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Please stop making test edits to Wikipedia, as you did to
Norsefire. It is considered
vandalism, which, under Wikipedia policy, can lead to
blocking of editing privileges. If you would like to experiment again, please use the
sandbox. --
ThinkBlue
(Hit
BLUE)
16:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
-- Jza84 | Talk 20:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an
edit war according to the reverts you have made on
United Kingdom. Note that the
three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the
three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a
consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue
dispute resolution. You are edit-warring, and given your previous history and blocks, a warning now is appropriate.
DDStretch
(talk)
12:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Please refrain from making that same, unverified edit against consensus. You wound up blocked for it before and the same will only happen again if you continue. Instead, discuss the change on the talkpage of the article: Talk:Norsefire and see if a consensus or a compromise can be reached. Thanks, ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) ( talk) 14:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
.
Hi
I've filed a suspected sock puppet report involving you at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Rightandright.
Cheers, This flag once was red 18:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
"British Nationalism" as an ideology is cited - there is a reference to support that claim. The comic - contrary to your claim - does show what's going on outside England; Norsefire are fighting the SNA in Scotland (a comparison is made with the British government fighting the Provisional IRA in Northern Ireland during the Troubles). I understand your belief in the importance of the motto "England prevails", but that's just a soundbite - comparable to a Battle of Britain fighter pilot talking about "saving England". British politicians from England have a long tradition of using England interchangeably with Britain.
Cheers, This flag once was red propaganda deeds 23:19, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Rightandright
I've reverted your good faith changes to the Norsefire infobox; my reasoning is that Susan is no longer leader at the end of the comic - he's replaced by Creedy, who in turn is killed. Fascism is a better description of Norsefire's ideology than conservatism - I'm no conservative (as you can probably tell from my user page...) but it seems slight insulting to conflate conservatism with the actions of Norsefire - Britain between 1979 and 1997 bore no relation to Norsefire's Britain ;-)
I've also re-added Alan Moore's Cassandra statement - I'm not sure why you took it out but I think it adds to the article rather than detracts.
I've not touched anything else - I agree with the rest of your edits and accept that these edits were made in good faith too.
Cheers, This flag once was red 00:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Why does it matter that Moore's commentary isn't from the comic?
It's referenced, and it helps the reader understand why Moore believed the UK in the 1990s would be as it was portrayed in V for Vendetta.
It's been in the article for a very long time, and I for one would be very opposed to removing it for such spurious reasons.
Cheers, This flag once was red 20:34, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
Please refrain from making changes to core articles with regards to Europe. The pre-existing wording has been agreed upon for a very long time, and reflects the wording used in other commercial encyclopedias. If you wish to propose a change, please use the talk page and secure a consensus. -- Jza84 | Talk 22:37, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Please stop making test edits to Wikipedia, as you did to
Norsefire. It is considered
vandalism, which, under Wikipedia policy, can lead to
blocking of editing privileges. If you would like to experiment again, please use the
sandbox. --
ThinkBlue
(Hit
BLUE)
16:58, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
-- Jza84 | Talk 20:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an
edit war according to the reverts you have made on
United Kingdom. Note that the
three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the
three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a
consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue
dispute resolution. You are edit-warring, and given your previous history and blocks, a warning now is appropriate.
DDStretch
(talk)
12:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Please refrain from making that same, unverified edit against consensus. You wound up blocked for it before and the same will only happen again if you continue. Instead, discuss the change on the talkpage of the article: Talk:Norsefire and see if a consensus or a compromise can be reached. Thanks, ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) ( talk) 14:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
.
Hi
I've filed a suspected sock puppet report involving you at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Rightandright.
Cheers, This flag once was red 18:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
"British Nationalism" as an ideology is cited - there is a reference to support that claim. The comic - contrary to your claim - does show what's going on outside England; Norsefire are fighting the SNA in Scotland (a comparison is made with the British government fighting the Provisional IRA in Northern Ireland during the Troubles). I understand your belief in the importance of the motto "England prevails", but that's just a soundbite - comparable to a Battle of Britain fighter pilot talking about "saving England". British politicians from England have a long tradition of using England interchangeably with Britain.
Cheers, This flag once was red propaganda deeds 23:19, 22 November 2008 (UTC)