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Look at the contributions of He to Hecuba. I'd do that again. I have psychological issues with editing from an account I've fucked up with. -- Claritas § 23:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Since you approved it at AfC , you may want to comment. We don't have an established practice of notifying here, but I think we should. DGG ( talk ) 05:44, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi;
Might it not be easier if you consolidate all your likely amendment requests into one? That is, if you have anything else you'd like the committee to look at, ask now? It can then be dealt with either as an omnibus motion or as a series of motions. Roger Davies talk 18:24, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
That's very sweet of you, Rich. What came across as cool was probably just trying to keep interventions short and get on with real life! Anyway, thanks and keep up the good work. Itsmejudith ( talk) 09:04, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Fair use logo. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Fair use logo redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 17:41, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
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Best wishes for the New Year! | |
Wishing you and yours a joyous, healthful, and productive 2013! Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my retirement as FAC delegate this year, and apologies for the false alarm of my first—and hopefully last—retirement; the well wishes extended me were most kind, but I decided to return, re-committed, when another blocked sock was revealed as one of the factors aggravating the FA pages this year. Maintaining standards in featured content requires vigilance, dedication and knowledge of people like you, who are needed; reviews are always welcome at
FAC,
FAR and
TFA requests.
Somehow, somehow we never ever seem to do nothin' completely nice and easy, but here's hoping that 2013 will see a peaceful road ahead and a return to the quality and comaraderie that defines the
FA process, with the help of many dedicated Wikipedians! |
You gotta keep on and come back to Wikipedia my friend. Dudes like you are the reason dudes like me are still fighting. Ramwithaxe talk 09:58, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. That is what I wanted to do, but could not find out such a page (somehow I could not find "cwt" anywhere around...) - Nabla ( talk) 10:30, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy notice to inform you that the Arbitration Committee has proposed, and is voting on, motions that would affect you. You may comment on these motions in your statement. For the Arbitration Committee Alexandr Dmitri ( talk) 12:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
I like this one.
Rich
Farmbrough,
00:11, 5 January 2013 (UTC).
Resolved by motion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment that:
In the Rich Farmbrough case, the revised Finding of Fact 8, enacted on 28 May 2012 is vacated. Nothing in this decision constitutes an endorsement by the Committee of Rich Farmbrough's use of administrative tools to unblock his own accounts.
For the Arbitration Committee, (
X! ·
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@114 ·
01:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I've closed the discussion as userfy. The page has been moved to your userspace at User:Rich Farmbrough/QWIKI-NOWIKI. bibliomaniac 1 5 22:02, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
might wanna see this. Buggie111 ( talk) 02:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Oddly it was (as I predicted)
BLP-prdded but still A7'd. (out of process) a minute later.
Rich
Farmbrough,
03:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC).
Hi, Rich Farmbrough. Thank you for cleaning-up the Environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill article. However, there is a related discussion if the Environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill was split correctly from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and if it should be merged back there. Relevant sections for this discussion are this and this. Your comments are appreciated. Thank you. Beagel ( talk) 18:59, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
If you need to test things outside of userspace or sandboxes, then at least remove the test again afterwards. Things like this shouldn't be left around. Fram ( talk) 07:59, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Rich, you left a sandboxed template in a cleanup category last night, thought you would like to know! Love from the land of Poirot.
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Category:Project-Class Editor Retention articles, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Beeblebrox ( talk) 01:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello Rich Farmbrough, I have noticed your "Things that stayed too long" list on your user page, and thought you may like to add [1] to it. However, it stayed on WP just five days, which may not be such a long time for inclusion in your list. Best, Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Confused too. Mind explaining as your message was sort of, out of the blue. John F. Lewis ( talk) 21:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Rich,
This slipped my mind - and maybe yours too. This Bot Request page also slipped off my Watchlist, so I forgot. You offered on here to take care of this if you could. I'm in no hurry. But if you know for sure you cannot do it, is there a way to pull this request out of the archives and put it back out there. I don't know what your permission status is on these things. Thanks for offering, whether you can do it or not. — Maile ( talk) 14:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for all your tireless work. Materialscientist ( talk) 04:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC) |
Hi Rich, Merry Xmas and all that. I just saw at the top of your talkpage you say about emails possibly being filtered off as spam; I was wondering if this might have happened to my emails reminding you of that IMDb correction bot task. If so, how are you getting on with it? If not, I'd like an update anyway please. Thanks Rich. Rcsprinter (Gimme a message) No, I'm Santa Claus! @ 10:50, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Greetings! Thank you for your contributions here. I am active with WikiProject Medicine, and I contacted Alvin Seville to thank them for their edits to Category:Wikipedia backlog. I also expressed my interest in getting a page like that established for content tagged as being under WikiProject Medicine. In an ideal world, I think bots would keep project-specific backlog pages like that maintained indefinitely. I'm sorry to hear a related bot of yours was blocked. Do you think you could help me get a bot like this going? Maybe a former bot of yours could be fairly easily tweaked and then it could get community consensus to run on WikiProject backlog pages. Unfortunately, I don't have any programming skills, but I think it would be cool if I could write my own bots eventually. Biosthmors ( talk) 04:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks so much for all the work you do Kipsizoo ( talk) 11:15, 16 January 2013 (UTC) |
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You did the right thing by not moving Fram's comment to their section. Uninvolved admins clerking a case is one thing, but you were correct in thinking that you placing that in their section might have been construed as you editing someone else's section, the very error Fram made. Good call on that one. I post this here rather than the case to avoid going off on side topics there. Killer Chihuahua 13:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Instead of immediately starting an WP:AE section, I thought it better to first get your input on some edits that concern me. Over the last few months, you have made many edits that appear to be at least partially automated, with e.g. whitespace removals all over articles, the replacement of all parameters in the persondata template (from uppercase to lowercase, something which was discussed a few times already and which I thought you had said you would stop doing), repeated exact same minor errors, and so on. None of these caused serious problems though, so I left it alone.
An edit from yesterday [2] insert much more serious problems though, and the only expanation for these errors that I can reasonably think of is that you ran a script across a number of sources, and dumped the result in the article. While this is only one page, it is still using automated editing, and a return to the problems that caused the restriction in the first place.
Less serious contentwise, but typical of the use (and lack of control) of a script are the following issues:
I have stopped checking in detail after Chattisgarh, skimming the rest of the very long page seems to show similar errors all the way down.
Basically, it looks as if by using a script to generate this long page, you produced something that at first glance seems a nice piece of work, but that on closer inspection is seriously deficient, with a whole lot of entries simply missing and a lot of other, smaller errors. I'ld be glad to hear another explanation for this, which would save us the hassle of another acrimnious AE debate. Like I said, I don't see what that explanation could be, but I have been proven wrong before... Fram ( talk) 15:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Well I wanted to be the first one to wish you good luck. I have done everything I can to stop this stupidity but unfortunately they keep letting Fram do whatever he wants. I expect to be blocked myself soon because I told him what I thought of him on the discussion so I think its only a matter of time before someone blocks me for personal attacks. Of course they'll leave him be to continue his crusade against some other editor. Kumioko ( talk) 00:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Notice to administrators: In a March 2010 decision, the Committee held that "Administrators are prohibited from reversing or overturning (explicitly or in substance) any action taken by another administrator pursuant to the terms of an active arbitration remedy, and explicitly noted as being taken to enforce said remedy, except: (a) with the written authorization of the Committee, or (b) following a clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors at a community discussion noticeboard (such as WP:AN or WP:ANI). If consensus in such discussions is hard to judge or unclear, the parties should submit a request for clarification on the proper page. Any administrator that overturns an enforcement action outside of these circumstances shall be subject to appropriate sanctions, up to and including desysopping, at the discretion of the Committee."
Rich, I'm sorry to see you treated so disgracefully. I wish I knew of a solution for this aspect of Wikipedia's disfunctionality. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
User:Rich Farmbrough/blog, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rich Farmbrough/blog and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Rich Farmbrough/blog during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 17:52, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Kosh won't let it lie, and has DRV'ed it. I imagine a similar outcome will conclude there. Waste of community time and energy. The Rambling Man ( talk) 18:23, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
This message is to notify you that I have started a discussion at ANI for an interaction Ban for Fram and Rich Farmbrough. I know that you cannot participate in that discussion but I believe you can still edit here. Kumioko ( talk) 12:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Curb Chain ( talk) 09:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The reverted section by
User:Highlander should be reinstated but read "Van Heflin was helpful.... " and be cited to Let's Face It: 90 Years of Living, Loving, and Learning, Kirk Douglas, p21. (Stanwyck, apparently, ignored him for two weeks). The second sentence should not be included as it is too ephemeral. A nice note should be left for the user.
Rich
Farmbrough,
11:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC).
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Look at the contributions of He to Hecuba. I'd do that again. I have psychological issues with editing from an account I've fucked up with. -- Claritas § 23:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Since you approved it at AfC , you may want to comment. We don't have an established practice of notifying here, but I think we should. DGG ( talk ) 05:44, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi;
Might it not be easier if you consolidate all your likely amendment requests into one? That is, if you have anything else you'd like the committee to look at, ask now? It can then be dealt with either as an omnibus motion or as a series of motions. Roger Davies talk 18:24, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
That's very sweet of you, Rich. What came across as cool was probably just trying to keep interventions short and get on with real life! Anyway, thanks and keep up the good work. Itsmejudith ( talk) 09:04, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:Fair use logo. Since you had some involvement with the Template:Fair use logo redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Sfan00 IMG ( talk) 17:41, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
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Best wishes for the New Year! | |
Wishing you and yours a joyous, healthful, and productive 2013! Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my retirement as FAC delegate this year, and apologies for the false alarm of my first—and hopefully last—retirement; the well wishes extended me were most kind, but I decided to return, re-committed, when another blocked sock was revealed as one of the factors aggravating the FA pages this year. Maintaining standards in featured content requires vigilance, dedication and knowledge of people like you, who are needed; reviews are always welcome at
FAC,
FAR and
TFA requests.
Somehow, somehow we never ever seem to do nothin' completely nice and easy, but here's hoping that 2013 will see a peaceful road ahead and a return to the quality and comaraderie that defines the
FA process, with the help of many dedicated Wikipedians! |
You gotta keep on and come back to Wikipedia my friend. Dudes like you are the reason dudes like me are still fighting. Ramwithaxe talk 09:58, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. That is what I wanted to do, but could not find out such a page (somehow I could not find "cwt" anywhere around...) - Nabla ( talk) 10:30, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
This is a courtesy notice to inform you that the Arbitration Committee has proposed, and is voting on, motions that would affect you. You may comment on these motions in your statement. For the Arbitration Committee Alexandr Dmitri ( talk) 12:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
I like this one.
Rich
Farmbrough,
00:11, 5 January 2013 (UTC).
Resolved by motion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment that:
In the Rich Farmbrough case, the revised Finding of Fact 8, enacted on 28 May 2012 is vacated. Nothing in this decision constitutes an endorsement by the Committee of Rich Farmbrough's use of administrative tools to unblock his own accounts.
For the Arbitration Committee, (
X! ·
talk) ·
@114 ·
01:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
I've closed the discussion as userfy. The page has been moved to your userspace at User:Rich Farmbrough/QWIKI-NOWIKI. bibliomaniac 1 5 22:02, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
might wanna see this. Buggie111 ( talk) 02:00, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
Oddly it was (as I predicted)
BLP-prdded but still A7'd. (out of process) a minute later.
Rich
Farmbrough,
03:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC).
Hi, Rich Farmbrough. Thank you for cleaning-up the Environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill article. However, there is a related discussion if the Environmental impact of the Deepwater Horizon oil spill was split correctly from the Deepwater Horizon oil spill and if it should be merged back there. Relevant sections for this discussion are this and this. Your comments are appreciated. Thank you. Beagel ( talk) 18:59, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
If you need to test things outside of userspace or sandboxes, then at least remove the test again afterwards. Things like this shouldn't be left around. Fram ( talk) 07:59, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Rich, you left a sandboxed template in a cleanup category last night, thought you would like to know! Love from the land of Poirot.
--
Category:Project-Class Editor Retention articles, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Beeblebrox ( talk) 01:52, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello Rich Farmbrough, I have noticed your "Things that stayed too long" list on your user page, and thought you may like to add [1] to it. However, it stayed on WP just five days, which may not be such a long time for inclusion in your list. Best, Toccata quarta ( talk) 09:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Confused too. Mind explaining as your message was sort of, out of the blue. John F. Lewis ( talk) 21:02, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
--
Hi Rich,
This slipped my mind - and maybe yours too. This Bot Request page also slipped off my Watchlist, so I forgot. You offered on here to take care of this if you could. I'm in no hurry. But if you know for sure you cannot do it, is there a way to pull this request out of the archives and put it back out there. I don't know what your permission status is on these things. Thanks for offering, whether you can do it or not. — Maile ( talk) 14:21, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar | |
Thanks for all your tireless work. Materialscientist ( talk) 04:17, 13 January 2013 (UTC) |
Hi Rich, Merry Xmas and all that. I just saw at the top of your talkpage you say about emails possibly being filtered off as spam; I was wondering if this might have happened to my emails reminding you of that IMDb correction bot task. If so, how are you getting on with it? If not, I'd like an update anyway please. Thanks Rich. Rcsprinter (Gimme a message) No, I'm Santa Claus! @ 10:50, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Greetings! Thank you for your contributions here. I am active with WikiProject Medicine, and I contacted Alvin Seville to thank them for their edits to Category:Wikipedia backlog. I also expressed my interest in getting a page like that established for content tagged as being under WikiProject Medicine. In an ideal world, I think bots would keep project-specific backlog pages like that maintained indefinitely. I'm sorry to hear a related bot of yours was blocked. Do you think you could help me get a bot like this going? Maybe a former bot of yours could be fairly easily tweaked and then it could get community consensus to run on WikiProject backlog pages. Unfortunately, I don't have any programming skills, but I think it would be cool if I could write my own bots eventually. Biosthmors ( talk) 04:02, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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The Editor's Barnstar |
Thanks so much for all the work you do Kipsizoo ( talk) 11:15, 16 January 2013 (UTC) |
|}
You did the right thing by not moving Fram's comment to their section. Uninvolved admins clerking a case is one thing, but you were correct in thinking that you placing that in their section might have been construed as you editing someone else's section, the very error Fram made. Good call on that one. I post this here rather than the case to avoid going off on side topics there. Killer Chihuahua 13:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Instead of immediately starting an WP:AE section, I thought it better to first get your input on some edits that concern me. Over the last few months, you have made many edits that appear to be at least partially automated, with e.g. whitespace removals all over articles, the replacement of all parameters in the persondata template (from uppercase to lowercase, something which was discussed a few times already and which I thought you had said you would stop doing), repeated exact same minor errors, and so on. None of these caused serious problems though, so I left it alone.
An edit from yesterday [2] insert much more serious problems though, and the only expanation for these errors that I can reasonably think of is that you ran a script across a number of sources, and dumped the result in the article. While this is only one page, it is still using automated editing, and a return to the problems that caused the restriction in the first place.
Less serious contentwise, but typical of the use (and lack of control) of a script are the following issues:
I have stopped checking in detail after Chattisgarh, skimming the rest of the very long page seems to show similar errors all the way down.
Basically, it looks as if by using a script to generate this long page, you produced something that at first glance seems a nice piece of work, but that on closer inspection is seriously deficient, with a whole lot of entries simply missing and a lot of other, smaller errors. I'ld be glad to hear another explanation for this, which would save us the hassle of another acrimnious AE debate. Like I said, I don't see what that explanation could be, but I have been proven wrong before... Fram ( talk) 15:52, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Well I wanted to be the first one to wish you good luck. I have done everything I can to stop this stupidity but unfortunately they keep letting Fram do whatever he wants. I expect to be blocked myself soon because I told him what I thought of him on the discussion so I think its only a matter of time before someone blocks me for personal attacks. Of course they'll leave him be to continue his crusade against some other editor. Kumioko ( talk) 00:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
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Rich, I'm sorry to see you treated so disgracefully. I wish I knew of a solution for this aspect of Wikipedia's disfunctionality. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:39, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
User:Rich Farmbrough/blog, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rich Farmbrough/blog and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Rich Farmbrough/blog during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ... 17:52, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Kosh won't let it lie, and has DRV'ed it. I imagine a similar outcome will conclude there. Waste of community time and energy. The Rambling Man ( talk) 18:23, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
This message is to notify you that I have started a discussion at ANI for an interaction Ban for Fram and Rich Farmbrough. I know that you cannot participate in that discussion but I believe you can still edit here. Kumioko ( talk) 12:11, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Curb Chain ( talk) 09:06, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
The reverted section by
User:Highlander should be reinstated but read "Van Heflin was helpful.... " and be cited to Let's Face It: 90 Years of Living, Loving, and Learning, Kirk Douglas, p21. (Stanwyck, apparently, ignored him for two weeks). The second sentence should not be included as it is too ephemeral. A nice note should be left for the user.
Rich
Farmbrough,
11:27, 28 January 2013 (UTC).
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