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Hi there, Qwyrxian. I'm not sure if you've been to the Paid Editor Help page lately, but earlier this week I received some good feedback on my proposed draft for the Private Equity Growth Capital Council article from an editor who's knowledgable about private equity, User:Urbanrenewal. He offered some feedback, which I |incorporated, but otherwise said it looked good to him. No other feedback has been forthcoming, so I asked Silver about what to do next, and his suggestion was to ask you to perform a histmerge. Let me know if you're game, if you think the draft is ready. Cheers, WWB Too ( talk) 02:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kraisit Agnew Vanadus ( talk | contribs) 16:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Agree with most of your edits on street art but you were perhaps over zealous on one item; shouldn't have removed the info about Ever (artist), there were blue links to follow to easily see this is an important artist and this section is definitely mentioning significant local artists from each city. The mention of his activity in Atlanta and Miami is to illustrate his international recognition. That info is also easily verifiable from blue links. Keizers ( talk) 23:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
You recently warned User:Goodbyz on his/her UTP against continuing personal attacks, [1] and removed the attack at Newt Gingrich presidential campaign here. Goodbyz has been reported at WP:EWN by another editor here. In a related thread that I started at Goodbyz's UTP, Goodbyz's last post to the thread here includes "you project your own actions [i.e., in the context, personal attacks] onto others instead of taking accountability". This seems to me to be another pretty clear PA, in disregard of the warning, but I could be wrong? Is this another PA or do you view it as just an innocuous opinion about me, and permissible on a UTP? I'd like to know one way or the other. Thanks. Writegeist ( talk) 07:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I already mentioned the reason. "the Great title must be included at end of his name you think you can change the history that's because you an administrator of wikipedia.? I will report this if you try to move the article again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avaloan ( talk • contribs) 12:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
what the hell.page has been redirected again.no indian refers to him as ashoka the great.he is simply ashoka for most. Pernoctator ( talk) 12:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I think another one has already explained the reason ,I suppose it's irreverent to mention it again and again. since non of you admins haven't made a proper action. someone has to make an action for it. Avaloan ( talk) 12:43, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
yeah no one even mentions Alexander to Alexander the great. but that's his title. Avaloan ( talk) 12:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC) it's simply the historical titles. why would someone want to change them? you want to change the history that's because it's against your propaganda.? then keep that for your personal space not in here.
here are some of references
nirmukta . com/2010/01/10/how-ashoka-the-great-gave-brahmins-the-gift-of-a-song-with-which-they-conquered-india/
imdb . com/title/tt0249371/
larryfreeman . hubpages.com/hub/Ashok-A-Short-Biography-of-Ashoka-the-Great-of-India
asianhistory . about.com/od/india/a/ashoka.htm
Avaloan (
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13:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I've requested that it be protected (either full/semi) because multiple users are not adhering to your concerns here. Jasper Deng (talk) 02:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
hi...i am really sorry for what i have done...actually this is my first time....can u please tell me how post a link for uploading an image or changing it...thank you....please do tell me if u can... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ai Ciara ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello Qwyrxian. User:Diannaa suggested you might be able to help me with this question. Many articles give Indian names with titles and things like Shri, Swamiji, etc. When copy editing, the MOS suggests to remove such titles, but I'm not sure whether use of the bare name is too discourteous in Indian culture to allow this. Could you advise, please? -- Stfg ( talk) 20:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Well, I spend so much of my time at WP:ANI that the sequence of letters has become embedded in my typing movements! Good spot. - Sitush ( talk) 02:40, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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AshLin ( talk) 06:40, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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This is enough off-topic that I didn't want to put it at Talk:Parties_in_the_European_Council#Request_for_a_3rd_opinion:_Basescu_as_PD-L_and.2For_EPP_member.3F, but just FYI: Discussion through edit summaries is not generally be accepted as sufficient discussion for DR. That's explicit at WP:DRN "Guide to the noticeboard: ... This noticeboard is not for disputes which have been carried out only through edit summaries or which have not received substantial discussion on a talk page." It's implicit at WP:3O, "Before making a request here, be sure that the issue has been thoroughly discussed on the article talk page. 3O is only for assistance in resolving disagreements that have come to a standstill." (Emphasis added.) And it's also been the in-practice standard at 3O for as long as I've worked there (since November, 2009, and I'm the third most active participant in that project). WP:MEDCAB now generally requires some other form of DR to be tried first before coming to MedCab, as does the WP:MEDCOM. No big deal, but thought you might like to know. Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 22:45, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
I take your point about addition of education details. I suppose I feel that a lot of these media personalities deliberately bury the fact that they come from a privileged background so I was trying to 'unbury' it. Perhaps this was too unsubtle. But I think the general public deserve to know where people on TV come from - and factors which helped them gain their current roles. -- Ray3zor ( talk) 21:44, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't think they are inappropriate in general. Possibly the ones in the opening paragraphs. But it is certainly not inappropriate to clarify the exact nature of someone's education. I disagree completely with your last sentence. You appear to link a good education with private schools or a privileged background. I don't know if you are familiar with the UK's education system, but our state schools over here provide a very good education too. I'm not trying to present a particular point of view. I am just clarifying the precise nature of an individual's education. -- Ray3zor ( talk) 22:39, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
We have a rumbling situation at Rajputs whereby some people keep inserting the Saini caste into a list and others keep removing it. I have been among the removers but was by no means the first to do so. I think that we have another Yadav/Yadava situation but, as I say at Talk:Rajput#Saini, the list into which the entry keeps being made is in any event not an inclusive list but rather a list in the "for example ..." style. I would appreciate it if you could just cast your eye over that thread in order to check that my comments are reasonable. If they are and if the situation then persists then I think that the next stage is going to be a trip to the dreaded WP:DRN - dreaded because trying to explain the concepts of "belief" vs "are" and modern Saini vs old Shoorsaini to people who have no prior knowledge is going to be as messy as Yadav/Yadava. - Sitush ( talk) 22:09, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I realise that this sounds wrong but the entire concept is awkward for me to appreciate and probably will be even more so for the newbies/drive-bys etc. They are A Good Thing in principle but, as various people said in the AN discussion, implementation is going to prove a challenge and I do worry about the subjective element of it, of which this particular instance is a notable example because it pretty much relies on a knowledge of past events/scenarios etc. I do not envy you or others who are tasked with that. I got a mild bollocking from C.Fred a couple of days ago and was not happy & indeed seem to have been proven correct in practice but, as with you, I know him to be a sound admin. That was pretty much the first genuine warning I have received and I'll live with it. I reckon that is pretty good going in this subject area, and my point was precisely to cause a discussion to occur rather than continued warring. - Sitush ( talk) 00:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Can I ask your expert opinion on the Prosfiction article that I stumbled across this morning. To me, it rings alarm bells. Do you think it is a hoax? — Hebrides ( talk) 12:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Did you intend to put this at Talk:Ror ? I added the article talk page header template a few hours ago. - Sitush ( talk) 07:52, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Can you have a look at this and this please? If you are online I mean. Shriram ( talk) 10:49, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello, since you recently participated in an RfC at Campaign for "santorum" neologism, I thought you might be interested in this proposal for renaming the article, or perhaps another of the rename proposals on the page. Best, Be——Critical 22:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
i agree delete all things unreliable
the german wwii plane expert 00:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
following copied from Ror is King's talk page
Dear. I just came here to warn you about the discretionary sanctions on caste articles...but I see that Sitush has already given you that link. I very strongly encourage you to read about what the sanctions means, read WP:V and WP:RS (the two key policies/guidelines that are relevant in the dispute above), and revise your editing behavior. Since you've already been warned, and now you've taken to attacking other editors (as in the comment just above this, along with calling good faith edits "vandalism")...any more, and I will have to ask that you be blocked. Qwyrxian ( talk) 07:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Qwyrxian,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name
HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar -- Jaobar ( talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Young June Sah -- Yjune.sah ( talk) 03:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
When you blocked him in September, you told him to "not continue the same disruptive behavior or I will seek approval for a significantly longer, or possibly indefinite block". He may or may not be proxying for a banned user this time, but blatant disruption from him continues. He has edit-warred with summaries like this, and even after being warned, he continues. I think there's a bigger issue here than can be resolved with more warnings or mediation on individual articles. Your advice or action on this issue is appreciated. Shrigley ( talk) 22:21, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I posted the identical message to Malik_Shabazz who deleted my addition to the Palestinian people article.
Under the German people article. It says: "Germany had a substantial Jewish population. Only a few thousand people of Jewish origin remained in Germany after the Holocaust"
Thus it should also be said that upon the Islamic conquest of modern day Israel/Palestine the area had a Jewish majority. After the conquest and massacres such as the Safed Plunder. 1660 destruction of Tiberias, etc. etc. Israel/Palestine's indigenous Jewish population ( Old Yishuv) was down to only a few thousand people by the advent of Zionism.
If this cannot be included in the Palestinian people section, then why is an identical historical fact included in the German people section?
DionysosElysees ( talk) 06:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
That would be great. I'd like to set up a dispute. I think that people would go crazy if someone deleted what happened to the Jews of Germany or Poland in the German people or Polish people articles. I hope on Wikipedia that editors are not bias based on their views of modern politics and allow that to influence covering up historical genocides. I think it is highly appropriate to include the extermination of an indigenous population on any "---- people article. So yes, could you help me set up the dispute resolution.
DionysosElysees (
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06:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Think I did it right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Genocide_denial_in_Palestinian_related_articles
DionysosElysees ( talk) 07:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi there Qwyrxian, I've just posted a new proposed draft for an existing article ( Brian Lamb) over at WP:CO-OP's Paid Editor Help page ( here's the specific request), and I mention it here primarily because I note there your earlier stated concern that I may be over-citing my drafts. This is a project largely from the same era as my last few rewrite efforts, and it's possible that this one could have the same issues. There are a number of instances where I've provided up to three citations for a given passage, so I'd like to ask you specifically to review and offer comment. Anyway, no rush, and I'd love to have your input. Cheers, WWB Too ( talk) 05:25, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Could you place state under which deletion process you deleted CyberDefender? I see no deletion discussion, no Prod, and the article clearly was not eligible for any speedy deletion category. You could have removed the allegations, but instead deleted the article, as far as I can tell, based solely on your own personal opinion. I'm fairly certain that admins are not tasked with such actions. Could you please explain if there is something I'm missing, like an OTRS request? If not, please undelete the article, and, if you wish, take it to AfD. Qwyrxian ( talk) 03:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello! Dear, i need your help again, plz check Special Squad (2005) and Special Squad (TV series) they are about the same tv series but Special Squad (TV series) doesn't meet the requirements of a wikipedian article and already tagged to be wikify but Special Squad (2005) is created by me that's, i think, meets the wiki requirements better than Special Squad (TV series). So you are requested to check which should be deleted of them. I've not tagged any of them to be deleted at present. And one more thing, please keep in mind that i've made much efforts to create Special Squad (2005) so please decide with care if you have the right to delete and notify me about your decision, before it's came into action (if possible). Waiting for your quick response. TariButtar ( talk) 13:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I blocked the IP for the standard 3 days. Daniel Case ( talk) 05:37, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
Qwyrxian, since you have a keen interest in upholding WP:NLIST & MOS:HONORIFIC in alumni lists, why don't you have a look in to the lists in Category:Lists of Sri Lankan people by school affiliation. Your input would be most valued. Cossde ( talk) 08:18, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Where did you get the assertion of mine "that the blog coverage indicates notability"? Could you please re-read my comment there and fix your summary? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff ( talk) 11:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I had forgotten this aside from Tillotson. It is useless for the Tod article, but amusing nonetheless.
Travel to Rajasthan - though greatly increased in recent times - has a long history that began soon after the publication of the Annals, which among the more literate and assiduous was considered required reading. Its length no doubt made it daunting, and some seem to have just skimmed it. The young Rudyard Kipling, visiting in 1887, despaired of recounting the complicated history and summed up the whole of Tod in one line by saying that his book tells how for 900 years the Rajputs fought "Asiatically" (evidently the remark of a journalist in a hurry).
Is this the shortest ever precis of a book ? - Sitush ( talk) 08:14, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. When I read the information in that book, I immediately thought: "I found references! Yay!". I'm so happy the quarrel is over. -- Chiya 92 09:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Just today, in two different articles ( Singapore LIONSXII and Boon Lay Secondary School), I've seen a weird series of IP edits ( [3] and [4]), all in a short span of time, in the same IP range. Some of the edits are OK, but some are genuine vandalism. Looks weird, can we do anything about it? Lynch 7 09:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
You have decided not to allow editing biographical information in regards to college fraternity affiliation. Your dismissive attitude and remarks seem out of character for the open nature of Wikipedia. To us “frat boys” fraternity affiliation is important, the values and friendships forged during our undergraduate years often influence the rest of our lives. It is heartening to learn of brothers from other chapters and their accomplishments, I find value in this and I believe others do also. I also strongly believe that greek life can be a real benefit to our present undergraduates and that learning of the fraternity or sorority affiliation of people they may admire might lead them to join a fraternity or sorority, a decision they might not otherwise have considered. Thus it is important to allow such information. To say this information is “undue” and “really isn't important enough” is arrogant and condescending to the extreme and by not allowing such, you reveal yourself to be small-minded, narrow and prejudiced, neither inclusive nor allowing for diversity. An observation I am sure you have not considered. I hope for a favorable if not enlightened response such that I, as well as others, might continue to point out the positive aspects of greek life and identify the many men and women who have benefited from it. Thank you for you consideration. easimmons Easimmons ( talk) 10:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Please don't do this. -- dab (𒁳) 11:40, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I may need some input at User talk:Rajanaicker#Language problems if you can spare the time. If anything there is unclear then please let me know & I will try to explain better. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 07:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dravidian_peoples#Genetic_anthropology_section_needs_updating Have a good time. Nirjhara ( talk) 12:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I saw a reply put up by Omer123hussain, which said "mostly you would have given this reason in begging." I thought this was some sort of personal attack and a bad faith comment, and it meant to say that I go round Wikipedia, nagging editors to do my bidding submissively. Do you think so? Or is there any other way to interpret it? Thanks. X.One SOS 13:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Regarding Alice0000 ( talk · contribs) B music ian 08:02, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I did not realize how much I was removing. I left user talk:Alice0000 an apology (for what it's worth). Cheers! Jim1138 ( talk) 08:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
If noy copyvio, then is it a copy paste issue? The core of the article is lifted from the users bio written by someone else. If the article does pass AfD, this issue still remains.-- UnQuébécois ( talk) 12:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
oh wow basedgod you're so cool... oh an wow hi basedgod — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.6.251 ( talk) 02:11, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
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I've tagged Kali (Punjabi music) for speedy deletion, please have a look. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TariButtar ( talk • contribs)
Hi,
This is in connection with one of your edit to remove paragraph from this page Jan Lokpal Bill I have compiled that data in-conjunction with adequate references and resources.
Please also take in notice from resource http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.org/lokpal.html which I haven't mentioned it before.
I will try revised version of same paragraph again.
Thank you for your efforts to bring light on contests of this page and propelling forward to make it perfect.
Randombytes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randombytes ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
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Hi there, Qwyrxian. I'm not sure if you've been to the Paid Editor Help page lately, but earlier this week I received some good feedback on my proposed draft for the Private Equity Growth Capital Council article from an editor who's knowledgable about private equity, User:Urbanrenewal. He offered some feedback, which I |incorporated, but otherwise said it looked good to him. No other feedback has been forthcoming, so I asked Silver about what to do next, and his suggestion was to ask you to perform a histmerge. Let me know if you're game, if you think the draft is ready. Cheers, WWB Too ( talk) 02:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
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see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kraisit Agnew Vanadus ( talk | contribs) 16:26, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
Agree with most of your edits on street art but you were perhaps over zealous on one item; shouldn't have removed the info about Ever (artist), there were blue links to follow to easily see this is an important artist and this section is definitely mentioning significant local artists from each city. The mention of his activity in Atlanta and Miami is to illustrate his international recognition. That info is also easily verifiable from blue links. Keizers ( talk) 23:34, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
You recently warned User:Goodbyz on his/her UTP against continuing personal attacks, [1] and removed the attack at Newt Gingrich presidential campaign here. Goodbyz has been reported at WP:EWN by another editor here. In a related thread that I started at Goodbyz's UTP, Goodbyz's last post to the thread here includes "you project your own actions [i.e., in the context, personal attacks] onto others instead of taking accountability". This seems to me to be another pretty clear PA, in disregard of the warning, but I could be wrong? Is this another PA or do you view it as just an innocuous opinion about me, and permissible on a UTP? I'd like to know one way or the other. Thanks. Writegeist ( talk) 07:52, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I already mentioned the reason. "the Great title must be included at end of his name you think you can change the history that's because you an administrator of wikipedia.? I will report this if you try to move the article again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avaloan ( talk • contribs) 12:23, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
what the hell.page has been redirected again.no indian refers to him as ashoka the great.he is simply ashoka for most. Pernoctator ( talk) 12:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I think another one has already explained the reason ,I suppose it's irreverent to mention it again and again. since non of you admins haven't made a proper action. someone has to make an action for it. Avaloan ( talk) 12:43, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
yeah no one even mentions Alexander to Alexander the great. but that's his title. Avaloan ( talk) 12:49, 5 February 2012 (UTC) it's simply the historical titles. why would someone want to change them? you want to change the history that's because it's against your propaganda.? then keep that for your personal space not in here.
here are some of references
nirmukta . com/2010/01/10/how-ashoka-the-great-gave-brahmins-the-gift-of-a-song-with-which-they-conquered-india/
imdb . com/title/tt0249371/
larryfreeman . hubpages.com/hub/Ashok-A-Short-Biography-of-Ashoka-the-Great-of-India
asianhistory . about.com/od/india/a/ashoka.htm
Avaloan (
talk)
13:18, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I've requested that it be protected (either full/semi) because multiple users are not adhering to your concerns here. Jasper Deng (talk) 02:43, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
hi...i am really sorry for what i have done...actually this is my first time....can u please tell me how post a link for uploading an image or changing it...thank you....please do tell me if u can... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ai Ciara ( talk • contribs) 15:39, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello Qwyrxian. User:Diannaa suggested you might be able to help me with this question. Many articles give Indian names with titles and things like Shri, Swamiji, etc. When copy editing, the MOS suggests to remove such titles, but I'm not sure whether use of the bare name is too discourteous in Indian culture to allow this. Could you advise, please? -- Stfg ( talk) 20:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Well, I spend so much of my time at WP:ANI that the sequence of letters has become embedded in my typing movements! Good spot. - Sitush ( talk) 02:40, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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AshLin ( talk) 06:40, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I have commented at User_talk:Salvio_giuliano#Sanctions template, where Salvio has reported that his uw template is now moved out of userspace. - Sitush ( talk) 00:45, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
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This is enough off-topic that I didn't want to put it at Talk:Parties_in_the_European_Council#Request_for_a_3rd_opinion:_Basescu_as_PD-L_and.2For_EPP_member.3F, but just FYI: Discussion through edit summaries is not generally be accepted as sufficient discussion for DR. That's explicit at WP:DRN "Guide to the noticeboard: ... This noticeboard is not for disputes which have been carried out only through edit summaries or which have not received substantial discussion on a talk page." It's implicit at WP:3O, "Before making a request here, be sure that the issue has been thoroughly discussed on the article talk page. 3O is only for assistance in resolving disagreements that have come to a standstill." (Emphasis added.) And it's also been the in-practice standard at 3O for as long as I've worked there (since November, 2009, and I'm the third most active participant in that project). WP:MEDCAB now generally requires some other form of DR to be tried first before coming to MedCab, as does the WP:MEDCOM. No big deal, but thought you might like to know. Best regards, TransporterMan ( TALK) 22:45, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
I take your point about addition of education details. I suppose I feel that a lot of these media personalities deliberately bury the fact that they come from a privileged background so I was trying to 'unbury' it. Perhaps this was too unsubtle. But I think the general public deserve to know where people on TV come from - and factors which helped them gain their current roles. -- Ray3zor ( talk) 21:44, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I don't think they are inappropriate in general. Possibly the ones in the opening paragraphs. But it is certainly not inappropriate to clarify the exact nature of someone's education. I disagree completely with your last sentence. You appear to link a good education with private schools or a privileged background. I don't know if you are familiar with the UK's education system, but our state schools over here provide a very good education too. I'm not trying to present a particular point of view. I am just clarifying the precise nature of an individual's education. -- Ray3zor ( talk) 22:39, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
We have a rumbling situation at Rajputs whereby some people keep inserting the Saini caste into a list and others keep removing it. I have been among the removers but was by no means the first to do so. I think that we have another Yadav/Yadava situation but, as I say at Talk:Rajput#Saini, the list into which the entry keeps being made is in any event not an inclusive list but rather a list in the "for example ..." style. I would appreciate it if you could just cast your eye over that thread in order to check that my comments are reasonable. If they are and if the situation then persists then I think that the next stage is going to be a trip to the dreaded WP:DRN - dreaded because trying to explain the concepts of "belief" vs "are" and modern Saini vs old Shoorsaini to people who have no prior knowledge is going to be as messy as Yadav/Yadava. - Sitush ( talk) 22:09, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
I realise that this sounds wrong but the entire concept is awkward for me to appreciate and probably will be even more so for the newbies/drive-bys etc. They are A Good Thing in principle but, as various people said in the AN discussion, implementation is going to prove a challenge and I do worry about the subjective element of it, of which this particular instance is a notable example because it pretty much relies on a knowledge of past events/scenarios etc. I do not envy you or others who are tasked with that. I got a mild bollocking from C.Fred a couple of days ago and was not happy & indeed seem to have been proven correct in practice but, as with you, I know him to be a sound admin. That was pretty much the first genuine warning I have received and I'll live with it. I reckon that is pretty good going in this subject area, and my point was precisely to cause a discussion to occur rather than continued warring. - Sitush ( talk) 00:24, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Can I ask your expert opinion on the Prosfiction article that I stumbled across this morning. To me, it rings alarm bells. Do you think it is a hoax? — Hebrides ( talk) 12:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Did you intend to put this at Talk:Ror ? I added the article talk page header template a few hours ago. - Sitush ( talk) 07:52, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Can you have a look at this and this please? If you are online I mean. Shriram ( talk) 10:49, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello, since you recently participated in an RfC at Campaign for "santorum" neologism, I thought you might be interested in this proposal for renaming the article, or perhaps another of the rename proposals on the page. Best, Be——Critical 22:09, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
i agree delete all things unreliable
the german wwii plane expert 00:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
following copied from Ror is King's talk page
Dear. I just came here to warn you about the discretionary sanctions on caste articles...but I see that Sitush has already given you that link. I very strongly encourage you to read about what the sanctions means, read WP:V and WP:RS (the two key policies/guidelines that are relevant in the dispute above), and revise your editing behavior. Since you've already been warned, and now you've taken to attacking other editors (as in the comment just above this, along with calling good faith edits "vandalism")...any more, and I will have to ask that you be blocked. Qwyrxian ( talk) 07:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Dear Qwyrxian,
My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.
So a few things about the interviews:
Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name
HERE instead.
If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.
Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Obar -- Jaobar ( talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Young June Sah -- Yjune.sah ( talk) 03:39, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
When you blocked him in September, you told him to "not continue the same disruptive behavior or I will seek approval for a significantly longer, or possibly indefinite block". He may or may not be proxying for a banned user this time, but blatant disruption from him continues. He has edit-warred with summaries like this, and even after being warned, he continues. I think there's a bigger issue here than can be resolved with more warnings or mediation on individual articles. Your advice or action on this issue is appreciated. Shrigley ( talk) 22:21, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
I posted the identical message to Malik_Shabazz who deleted my addition to the Palestinian people article.
Under the German people article. It says: "Germany had a substantial Jewish population. Only a few thousand people of Jewish origin remained in Germany after the Holocaust"
Thus it should also be said that upon the Islamic conquest of modern day Israel/Palestine the area had a Jewish majority. After the conquest and massacres such as the Safed Plunder. 1660 destruction of Tiberias, etc. etc. Israel/Palestine's indigenous Jewish population ( Old Yishuv) was down to only a few thousand people by the advent of Zionism.
If this cannot be included in the Palestinian people section, then why is an identical historical fact included in the German people section?
DionysosElysees ( talk) 06:25, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
That would be great. I'd like to set up a dispute. I think that people would go crazy if someone deleted what happened to the Jews of Germany or Poland in the German people or Polish people articles. I hope on Wikipedia that editors are not bias based on their views of modern politics and allow that to influence covering up historical genocides. I think it is highly appropriate to include the extermination of an indigenous population on any "---- people article. So yes, could you help me set up the dispute resolution.
DionysosElysees (
talk)
06:36, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Think I did it right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Genocide_denial_in_Palestinian_related_articles
DionysosElysees ( talk) 07:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi there Qwyrxian, I've just posted a new proposed draft for an existing article ( Brian Lamb) over at WP:CO-OP's Paid Editor Help page ( here's the specific request), and I mention it here primarily because I note there your earlier stated concern that I may be over-citing my drafts. This is a project largely from the same era as my last few rewrite efforts, and it's possible that this one could have the same issues. There are a number of instances where I've provided up to three citations for a given passage, so I'd like to ask you specifically to review and offer comment. Anyway, no rush, and I'd love to have your input. Cheers, WWB Too ( talk) 05:25, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Could you place state under which deletion process you deleted CyberDefender? I see no deletion discussion, no Prod, and the article clearly was not eligible for any speedy deletion category. You could have removed the allegations, but instead deleted the article, as far as I can tell, based solely on your own personal opinion. I'm fairly certain that admins are not tasked with such actions. Could you please explain if there is something I'm missing, like an OTRS request? If not, please undelete the article, and, if you wish, take it to AfD. Qwyrxian ( talk) 03:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello! Dear, i need your help again, plz check Special Squad (2005) and Special Squad (TV series) they are about the same tv series but Special Squad (TV series) doesn't meet the requirements of a wikipedian article and already tagged to be wikify but Special Squad (2005) is created by me that's, i think, meets the wiki requirements better than Special Squad (TV series). So you are requested to check which should be deleted of them. I've not tagged any of them to be deleted at present. And one more thing, please keep in mind that i've made much efforts to create Special Squad (2005) so please decide with care if you have the right to delete and notify me about your decision, before it's came into action (if possible). Waiting for your quick response. TariButtar ( talk) 13:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I blocked the IP for the standard 3 days. Daniel Case ( talk) 05:37, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
Qwyrxian, since you have a keen interest in upholding WP:NLIST & MOS:HONORIFIC in alumni lists, why don't you have a look in to the lists in Category:Lists of Sri Lankan people by school affiliation. Your input would be most valued. Cossde ( talk) 08:18, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Where did you get the assertion of mine "that the blog coverage indicates notability"? Could you please re-read my comment there and fix your summary? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff ( talk) 11:39, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I had forgotten this aside from Tillotson. It is useless for the Tod article, but amusing nonetheless.
Travel to Rajasthan - though greatly increased in recent times - has a long history that began soon after the publication of the Annals, which among the more literate and assiduous was considered required reading. Its length no doubt made it daunting, and some seem to have just skimmed it. The young Rudyard Kipling, visiting in 1887, despaired of recounting the complicated history and summed up the whole of Tod in one line by saying that his book tells how for 900 years the Rajputs fought "Asiatically" (evidently the remark of a journalist in a hurry).
Is this the shortest ever precis of a book ? - Sitush ( talk) 08:14, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome. When I read the information in that book, I immediately thought: "I found references! Yay!". I'm so happy the quarrel is over. -- Chiya 92 09:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Just today, in two different articles ( Singapore LIONSXII and Boon Lay Secondary School), I've seen a weird series of IP edits ( [3] and [4]), all in a short span of time, in the same IP range. Some of the edits are OK, but some are genuine vandalism. Looks weird, can we do anything about it? Lynch 7 09:55, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
You have decided not to allow editing biographical information in regards to college fraternity affiliation. Your dismissive attitude and remarks seem out of character for the open nature of Wikipedia. To us “frat boys” fraternity affiliation is important, the values and friendships forged during our undergraduate years often influence the rest of our lives. It is heartening to learn of brothers from other chapters and their accomplishments, I find value in this and I believe others do also. I also strongly believe that greek life can be a real benefit to our present undergraduates and that learning of the fraternity or sorority affiliation of people they may admire might lead them to join a fraternity or sorority, a decision they might not otherwise have considered. Thus it is important to allow such information. To say this information is “undue” and “really isn't important enough” is arrogant and condescending to the extreme and by not allowing such, you reveal yourself to be small-minded, narrow and prejudiced, neither inclusive nor allowing for diversity. An observation I am sure you have not considered. I hope for a favorable if not enlightened response such that I, as well as others, might continue to point out the positive aspects of greek life and identify the many men and women who have benefited from it. Thank you for you consideration. easimmons Easimmons ( talk) 10:02, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Please don't do this. -- dab (𒁳) 11:40, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I may need some input at User talk:Rajanaicker#Language problems if you can spare the time. If anything there is unclear then please let me know & I will try to explain better. Thanks. - Sitush ( talk) 07:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dravidian_peoples#Genetic_anthropology_section_needs_updating Have a good time. Nirjhara ( talk) 12:34, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I saw a reply put up by Omer123hussain, which said "mostly you would have given this reason in begging." I thought this was some sort of personal attack and a bad faith comment, and it meant to say that I go round Wikipedia, nagging editors to do my bidding submissively. Do you think so? Or is there any other way to interpret it? Thanks. X.One SOS 13:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Regarding Alice0000 ( talk · contribs) B music ian 08:02, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up. I did not realize how much I was removing. I left user talk:Alice0000 an apology (for what it's worth). Cheers! Jim1138 ( talk) 08:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
If noy copyvio, then is it a copy paste issue? The core of the article is lifted from the users bio written by someone else. If the article does pass AfD, this issue still remains.-- UnQuébécois ( talk) 12:03, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
oh wow basedgod you're so cool... oh an wow hi basedgod — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.6.251 ( talk) 02:11, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
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I've tagged Kali (Punjabi music) for speedy deletion, please have a look. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TariButtar ( talk • contribs)
Hi,
This is in connection with one of your edit to remove paragraph from this page Jan Lokpal Bill I have compiled that data in-conjunction with adequate references and resources.
Please also take in notice from resource http://www.indiaagainstcorruption.org/lokpal.html which I haven't mentioned it before.
I will try revised version of same paragraph again.
Thank you for your efforts to bring light on contests of this page and propelling forward to make it perfect.
Randombytes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Randombytes ( talk • contribs) 12:02, 24 February 2012 (UTC)