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Hi Primefac! I saw
your recent close of the sub judice template nomination—thanks for taking the initiative to contact WMF Legal. The fact that they've deliberately chosen not to weigh in is very much news to me. I don't think that's just a minor note
, but something that has the potential to shape the debate, as a central argument for keeping is the legal one, and if the foundation doesn't feel a need to weigh in on the question, that might shift the discussion. I also question whether the
normal no consensus -> keep model is the right path for this circumstance, since this template is giving guidance, and keeping it results in us providing guidance for which there is no consensus. I would like to at the very least have it noted in the template's documentation that there is no consensus regarding its use. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk
02:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I noticed you did fix the problem. But your edit appears as an revert. Stop making undos that are stealth fixes.
I'll restore the edit now. CapnZapp ( talk) 19:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Since
CapnZapp personally invited
Blablubbs and
Jonesey95 to a discussion on this matter, it seems appropriate to also invite
Primefac: You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia talk:Reverting § Using undo for an edit that isn't a revert.
Schazjmd
(talk)
18:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
With this edit, PrimeBOT blanked a user talk page with the edit summary of "Task 24: removal of a template following a TFD", rather than removing the 8-char templates it usually removes when doing this task. Dhtwiki ( talk) 04:43, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Hey Primefac! I noticed you deleted the revisions of a vandal on WP:AIV however you missed a few other edits by the same editor to other pages, and also a few edits by sinebot signing the user's comments that will also qualify under RD3. ― Blaze The Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
The Admin's Barnstar | |
This is the closest barnstar I could find to reward you for dealing with revdels of vandals who just went too far. There might be one that is for this purpose however it's not included in the WikiLove script I use. Again, thanks for dealing with those vandals edits that qualify for rev deletion. ― Blaze The Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC) |
Is this expected? (I've no objection; actually, I prefer it. But if it's unintentional, then I thought you'd like to know.) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:22, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
·
with ·
is something that AWB does automatically, so while it is not specifically part of the task, it falls under acceptable genfixes auto-generated by AWB.
Primefac (
talk)
11:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi @ Primefac:, Please delete this draft Draft:Roma Thapa as i accidentally created. Fade258 ( talk) 18:06, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi @ Primefac:, I was wondering if possible you could help in designing an a simple infobox, Template:Infobox TikTok personality I have tried to get it working but failed. All it needs to have is “image”, “Followers” and “Likes” and needs to work as a module in other infoboxes. Hope you can help, Thanks. TapticInfo ( talk) 15:28, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Any chance that Primebot will be doing infobox genfixes again. Specifically restoring basic indentation and spacing? There are some editors out there who have somehow convinced themselves that stripping out spaces from the infobox is a good idea (ignoring the example of Template:Infobox film or the idea that any human might ever try read the wiki markup and improve the contents).
I see that Primebot has fixed this kind of thing before (as recently as 26 July 2021) and if I thought Primebot was going to fix it again in the near future it would be very reassuring and I wouldn't need to waste time trying to communicate with an editor who refuses to even discuss it (and who's edits are factually and content-wise fairly good, it's just his stubborn insistence on stripping spacing from the markup that's causing problems). Thanks. -- 109.77.209.225 ( talk) 15:11, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi @ Primefac:, Can I use same Wikipedia user account in both mobile and desktop computer by using same IP address ? Fade258 ( talk) 12:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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I believe you already have come across this (Concerning the editor Kaizenify). I’m not sure if it was you who granted them AFC pseudo rights, but all the same I find it imperative to let you know that they are making wrong and dubious accepts at AFC as detailed in that entry. If it isn’t you who granted him the afc pseudo rights then I’m sorry for presuming wrongly. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:03, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
{{
notability}}
& {{
unreliable sources}}
to the article & that is a problematic accept if I have seen one, @
Curb Safe Charmer was the first to nab this suspicious move, and correctly moved the article back to Draftspace as it was clearly an ADMASQ, they queried
Kaizenify on why they accepted that & their excuse or rationale didn’t make much sense after which they deleted the convo. I Notice this much later and ask Kaizenify why he accepted an article & affix the aforementioned tags, like why are you accepting an article at AFC if you know the sources used are unreliable? Of course they made no response. If it was done to throw editors off his scent I don’t know. What’s interesting is I wasn’t even aware this had been discussed before by CSC who is quite meticulous, articulate and intelligent at his duties, I noticed this odd move to. So yes, that was a problematic accept.
Celestina007 (
talk)
14:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac. Is this intended? [1] — DaxServer ( talk to me) 11:49, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Sir thank you for issuing me the rights for AFC review for temporary period. If you have time, could you please look into my first day performance on AfC reviewing. In case of any negative thing you looked upon. Please tell me so that I can rectify it next time. In case of my term ends, can I be promoted to permanent active members taking into my contributions on AfC reviewing.
Thanking you,
Best Wishes,
Jyoti Roy ( talk) 04:20, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac, we've removed |slogan=
from five infoboxes with more than 30,000 combined transclusions: {{
Infobox radio station}}, {{
Infobox radio network}}, {{
Infobox broadcasting network}}, {{
Infobox television station}}, {{
Infobox television channel}}. Can PrimeBOT be run across all five to remove uses of this parameter, including blank ones? The removal discussion is
here.
Sammi Brie (she/her •
t •
c)
03:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
|web=
to |website=
on Infobox television channel. This would avoid a clobber error, as noted at
Template talk:Infobox television channel#web/website.
Sammi Brie (she/her •
t •
c)
04:17, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Dear Primefac,
I'm rather new to this, but I believe you closed the discussion on the proposed deletion of NavBox template US military utility vehicles on 16 October ?
Were you aware that the discussion on How to split the template is still ongoing ?
Does such a deletion proposal during the ongoing debate on replacing the navbox not run counter to
WP:MULTI, i.e. starting the same discussion on multiple pages ? —
Is it really fair game to propose deletion of a thing, while consensus on proper replacement has not yet been reached ??
Furthermore: you stated: "Please make sure any extant uses that are not also covered by the split templates are replaced and not just orphaned."
But are you aware, that user
Cavalryman's template {{
Post-WWII US Soft Vehicles}}
covers only 50 of the roughly 76 post‑1945 articles that were included in the now deleted navbox – orphaning some 26 of them, the way I understand it..?
And finally: I had higher hopes regarding the quality of the debate on deletion... I had expected it to respect WP:NOTDEMOCRACY, and instead focus more on sound arguments, and reasonable application of logic... — Thus, much more than just: users x and y are in favor, and only user z is against ?
I'm unsure I should bring this to your attention in this way. If I'm erroneous, would you please be willing to point me to the proper procedure to find answers to these issues ?
Thank you in advance, and with respectful regards, -- GeeTeeBee ( talk) 14:42, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
made a U-turnon what was agreed is a red herring, another delaying tactic only adopted 10 days after the TfD discussion commenced, I have clearly stated I am very open to discuss a further split [2], and I remain happy to do so.
thank you for clarifying TfD is the appropriate venue for template splitting discussions- I did not say that, nor am I trying to imply it. As I said in this parallel discussion, TFD is really for use when there is little or no participation at the venue, or there is pushback - a year or so ago there were a dozen TFDs asking for splits where there was no opposition or prior discussion, and the end result is essentially a wasted week and time spent closing TFDs with no participants. If something can be done outwith TFD, it should be done. Primefac ( talk) 07:31, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
You've expanded x2 an IP addition where there is no citation; likewise at his website - no mention where he was schooled. I'm minded to delete this entirely. Any objections?
His wikibio ( Mark Henderson (lighting designer)) is almost entirely unreferenced, and similarly no mention of schooling. The Guardian has only "...in my home town in Nottinghamshire" and BBC Gloucestershire has "Born in Mansfield...". I usually do a bit of 'before'. Thank you.-- Rocknrollmancer ( talk) 18:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Leaky caldron ( talk) 18:33, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
I have now made 100,000 edits, and I am wondering when I get the barnstar that says I that have achieved this. Davidgoodheart ( talk) 22:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
May i request to remove me in the list? I am busy in real life (new job) and shifted my focus in Path of Exile wiki so that i feel i am semi-retired in en-wikipedia. Matthew hk ( talk) 11:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
An editor was blocked on it.wiki a few months ago but remains active on en.wiki. Some IPs and a new account recently made duck-like edits to it.wiki and es.wiki. The new account also created an account on en.wiki.
More details can be found here:
May I request a checkuser? Thanks, mate! SimoneBilesStan ( talk) 23:50, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi. How to select particular set of edits from contribution history? Like you have done here. I tried selecting using dates, but it is different than the links provided by you. —usernamekiran (talk) sign the (guestbook) 06:58, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
|limit=
sets the number of edits, the |offset=
sets the timestamp of the newest diff (or earlier). If I wanted to pick the previous 25 diffs that I made yesterday, I would do https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Contributions/Primefac&offset=20211017214400&limit=25 for a result of
[4]. Note that the timestamp is YYYYMMDDhhmmss. Hope that helps.
Primefac (
talk)
07:11, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
hi why remove my edit in gbif bot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirh123 ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi sorry to bug you, could you check on IndentBot's BRFA? I'd like to run another trial. Winston ( talk) 03:12, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping. I did see that comment, but I have zero desire to interact with that particular editor, who, frankly, should have been banned a long time ago. It's impossible to have a proper debate with that group of editors (referred to in this comment I put on my userpage nearly ten years ago) – even the comment made there about East German elections template is disingenuous. Cheers, Number 5 7 09:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I've just request (and received it) permission to use the copyrighted material on the draft /info/en/?search=.NET_nanoFramework that you've deleted a few hours ago. Any chance that you can restore it so I don't have to spend (again) a couple of hours rewriting it?
Really appreciate that! Thanks, J.a.simoes ( talk) 16:28, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac,
I've asked (and received) permission to use the copyrighted text that was on the draft article /info/en/?search=.NET_nanoFramework that you've deleted a few hours ago. Any chance you can recover that and save me from spending (again) a few hours rewriting it?
Really appreciate it!
PS: this message could be repeated as I'm unsure if I really sent the first time
J.a.simoes ( talk) 16:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Sir I want to resign from the reviewer of Wikiproject:Wikipedia Article for creation because I am busy currently in my educational works. Therefore it will be difficult for me to review the drafts all the time. I would request you to remove my name from the list. I will request again once my works are done for.
Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,
-- Jyoti Roy ( talk) 09:49, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you sir. Jyoti Roy ( talk) 09:54, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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The deleted draft is a recovery from an earlier version of said page, which in turn, the page that you believed was copyrighted from, was actually the one who borrowed, to begin with. There is no infringement on my part. check the history of the actual page and compare, it's clear that I was the first. (though I have no problem with other sites using it! I just want to make sure that's absolutely clear) Thanks, and have a nice day. -- Smcupcake19 ( talk) 22:46, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello Primefac. Did you intend for the protection of the various subpages of Module:Transclusion count/data to expire after 48 hours? These seem like the kind of thing that should be permanently protected? 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 04:25, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I have written an article about Reza Tajbakhsh in the draft. Can I create it myself because I have added resources to the article and Because the article is WP:GNG compliant. Also references full covered WP:NWSRC. And the article is ready to move to WP:Mainspace.-- Modeling ( talk) 21:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2021).
Hello, I am trying to use the coordinates templates on an external wiki which does not have Lua however I have come across an obstacle. The template Template:Precision1 has been deleted, but it is used by one of the coordinates templates. Would you be able to restore it briefly so I can copy it over to the wiki I'm working on, or email me with its contents? Sorry I know this is a weird request, but I can't figure out another way to get cordinates working. Best wishes NemesisAT ( talk) 15:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello I wanted to thank you about editing a page about my dad I have a project do about military personnel and I went on Wikipedia to get some answers. About my dad and there was a watch of messed up stuff and I saw that you edit things to make it better I just wanted to say thank you for editing it. It is Joseph T guastella. :p 2601:283:487E:1890:45A:BC4F:3498:3633 ( talk) 22:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Just curious; what did I mess up? :-) WaltCip-( talk) 16:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello Primefac, hope all is well with you. I've been taking a 3-year break from Wikipedia editing so I'm back after 3 years. I remember back in 2018 when you gave me tips and advice on how to bring a draft to have a better chance of being accepted. I remember having a chat with another Wikipedia admin on the Wikimedia Community Discord Server and they agreed with the idea that one particular section of an article I noticed should be cleaned up for violating WP:NOT and then one day later after cleaning up the section of the article some random new IP address leaves a message on my talk page out of the blue saying that cleaning up the article is unnecessary and irrelevant. Considering you have much more experience on Wikipedia than me and have probably dealt with something similar at some point.
Would it be a wise choice just to ignore what that IP address says because the IP address that sent me that message seems to have a very limited understanding of editing articles.
Just curious as well but are you also in the Wikimedia Community Discord Server. It's a nice place to chat just like IRC where people get live help and support. Anonymous1941 ( talk) 03:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC).
The Special Barnstar | |
When I look back at my journey thus far, I can’t imagine myself making all the positive contributions to the collaborative project if you hadn’t take a chance on me. You may have forgotten but some years ago, i decided to request a perm, in order to serve the community better but all the gatekeepers who stalk perms gave a million reasons why I didn’t qualify but you nonetheless took a chance on me and look how well that turned out. Please keep being you no matter what. You are an exceptional human and a “father” figure to me. Thank you so much for taking a chance on me I’m eternally indebted to you. Celestina007 ( talk) 19:31, 12 November 2021 (UTC) |
Hi,
I added this incident and cited my sources before it was removed. I understand the grey areas with referencing a news outlet no matter how reputable. This incident however has to be added to Prior Lake's profile as they have been in the news repeatedly for racial incidents. I could add original content without citing any source but if I do that, it invalidates the content and becomes my personal opinion. How do you suggest I add this ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarrieG ( talk • contribs) 17:55, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Primefac Sure! Will do. Thanks for the feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarrieG ( talk • contribs) 19:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Why was this histmerged? It was an undiscussed cut and paste move so it should have just been redirected or deleted. There was no useful content to histmerge and the result has thrown off the attribution history. czar 05:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Hey, Primefac,
One of my routine activities is checking the broken redirects lists. Today, a couple of talk pages showed up as broken redirects (very typical) but when I looked at the template pages for the talk pages, they had speedy deletion tags and the last edits to the page were by you in September 2021 (see Template:Uw-vandal-rand1/sandbox and Template:Uw-vandal-rand1/testcases). So, have these pages been tagged for speedy deletion for over 2 months and not showing up in the CSD categories? Or did some system gremlin just tag them and the edit doesn't show up in the page history? I know that happens with maintenance categories past their due date, a speedy deletion tag appears without a bot actually adding it to the page in an edit. Curious, for non-tech minds like myself.
Oh, if you are are an admin talk page stalker, please don't delete these pages until Primefac can respond. That happens every time I report a problem at the Village Pump Tech board. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 23:06, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
{{
template sandbox notice}}
and {{
template test cases notice}}
) that automatically create CSD notices when the template the subpages belong to is deleted or non-existent.
clpo13(
talk)
00:31, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § page edit not accepted. Marchjuly ( talk) 07:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Primefac,
I'm coming to you because you and your talk page stalkers might know what to do about this one. MediaWiki talk:Apihelp-main-extended-description/sandbox and MediaWiki talk:Mobile-frontend-editor-disabled/sandbox popped up on an Orphaned talk subpage list. Originally, this was a list from 2020 of over 1000 pages that I worked on over summer 2021 and got down to a manageable size that updates weekly.
But I don't know anything about MediaWiki pages and whether or not these talk pages or their MediaWiki pages, serve any purpose or can be deleted. When I checked, no other pages link to them but, as I found out in a mistake with templates, just because no pages link to a page doesn't mean that it is doing nothing. I truly don't know where to go to ask as I couldn't even tag these MediaWiki pages for MFD discussion. Any ideas or suggestions? Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, are you able to get the 4BC Wikipedia Page Logo updated, as I can't get through wiki commons.
RoakleyTheBirb ( talk) 14:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Sir a creator of this draft, is constantly submitting this article in different naming pattern of same person. It is rejected due to not notable. Please kindly deal with this person as he has disclosed me that he was paid for the article. He didn't maintain any COI format, and still sending this article. Please look into this situation. Jyoti Roy ( talk) 09:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac! I noticed you recently lowered the protection of {{ Find sources}} and related from TPE to EC. Given that it has more than 500,000 transclusions, I was rather surprised. Could you share the request you mentioned in the summary and expand on your reasoning for granting it? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 16:13, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Can you please add the Junior Pan American Games to this template? Thank you in advance. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 22:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac!
Based on what I can tell, this would involve, say, replacing
["Zoram Nationalist Party"] = {abbrev = "", color = "#0000FF", shortname = "",},
with
["Zoram Nationalist Party"] = {abbrev = "ZNP", color = "#0000FF", shortname = "",},
I would like to help with this as I need something to do and this seems like the sort of thing that I'd like doing. I'd only add an abbreviation if there was one listed at the article or a /shortname or /abbreviation template. You are within your rights to decline this request.
YttriumShrew ( talk) 07:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Good day, Primefac,
I was just deleting some broken redirects and came upon one related to this TFD discussion which was closed and resulted in you deleting the templates involved earlier today. Following a trail, it led me to Category:Wikipedia title cleanup which is a category for pages tagged with those now deleted templates. Should it also be deleted? Or are there other existing templates that might use it? Right now, it just contains Template:Renamed. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 17:30, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
PennaRican ( talk) 18:41, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac. TTP1233 was re-added to the list of AfC reviewers 11 days ago. I came across one of their reviews and was concerned so had a look at a few more. I left them a note on their talk page but their reply didn't fill me with confidence. Some specific issues:
Their review history is here. Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 21:28, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Per you're posted outcome at TfD, and the fact it went into holding. I've changed the results back to how the WP:FOOTY project normally has them. Took a fair bit of work! You should be able to delete the template now. Regards. Govvy ( talk) 16:54, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: Renaming, Deadnaming, Blocks, UCoC & policy and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.
Thanks, Cabayi ( talk) 12:23, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Please change the following line, because the officially used coat of arms has changed:
old:
| Nuremberg=Wappen von Nürnberg.svg
new:
| Nuremberg=DEU Nürnberg COA (klein).svg
Thank you, Doc Taxon ( talk) 17:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
A new error message has cropped up at {{
Compact election box no change}} and a couple of other places. It appears to be tied to the use of |candidate3_party_unlinked=
. The table row that holds this parameter ends up with its cell completely outside of the table, and the remaining cells are shifted to the left. Since you are doing the amazing work of migrating these templates, I figured I would drop a note here instead of trying to decipher all of the new code myself. Keep up the great work! –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
20:52, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
|candidateX_party=
and |candidateX_party_unlinked=
. Now, they're all piped in the usual {{{candidate_party|}}} manner, meaning that nothing should be passed to the subtemplate, which means when the {{{candidate_party}}} is used, it should appear as such and not as an empty space. However, it was appearing as an empty space, and the module can't handle that. I don't know why this seems to be the only place this is manifesting, but... now you know.
Primefac (
talk)
21:51, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
{{#if:{{{candidate_party|}}}|{{{candidate_party}}}}}
rather than just {{{candidate_party|}}}
(in this case, {{#if:{{{candidate_party|}}}|{{{candidate_party}}}|white}}
or something similar might be better). I wish it worked differently, and I especially wish that I could remember this tip every time I need it.... –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
23:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)Hello! Can you check regarding countries at the Olympics?. India was named British India until 1936. Vietnam was named South Vietnam until 1972. Rhodesia was named Southern Rhodesia until 1964. Surinam was named Dutch Guyana until 1975. Egypt was named the United Arab Republic until 1968. It is important that the article names correspond correctly with the names at the time and not the name after that. Yours sincerely, Sondre -- 88.89.14.227 ( talk) 22:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
you should probably remove the template: prefix when changing these. 98.230.196.188 ( talk) 15:28, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi, for the infobox country at games template, Pakistan at the Winter Olympics shows 2006 as a year competed. They did not compete in 2006, and the article redirects to another article. Is there anyway we can remove the 2006 ? Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 19:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).
Howdy. You could strip your gears doing that ;) GoodDay ( talk) 08:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I'm writing to you about this page after reading the option on Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents that lets editors skip the drama and contact a recently active administrator to help with a problem. This page has an ongoing edit war basically that's of a rather substantial nature. One editor is disputing that this person was ever a king and there's been a back and forth with him and another editor. However, this problem is not something that just manifested today. Someone from Bulgaria under the number 193.68.139.54 made a big edit of a similar nature on August 21 that has since been reverted. I suspect it's the same person but either way, this contention could go on indefinitely. I'm just watching on the sides so I'm wondering if some order could be imposed? I'm using this option because I figured it's the most appropriate one given the situation. -- Killuminator ( talk) 12:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you there, I don't mean to be a pain or put a burden on you but can you please have a word with Deancarmeli, I am honestly feel his action were wrong and I feel somewhat wiki-bullied by him. :/ Govvy ( talk) 12:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for being willing to assess those. —valereee ( talk) 20:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I often see you at TfD, when they say substitute, does that just mean transferring the information out of a template? I still feel confused by WP:SUBSTITUTE sometimes.
I also wondered what you make of this template; Template:2023 FIBA Basketball World Cup qualification (Europe) – Qualifiers matches. I was under the impression that you should avoid storing certain amounts of information in a template that belongs in an article. I have no idea what to do here as Basketball isn't really my project, I follow the sport a little bit. But at the moment feel at a loss. I was under the impression this shouldn't be done and is wrong, regards. Govvy ( talk) 23:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
{{
Party color|Not-a-party}}
→ {{
subst:party color|Not-a-party}}
→ #F8F9FA
. Sometimes there is prep-work needed on the template-side of things, for example
making a template substable, but the end result is almost always replacing a template call with the template's contents.This and this are incredibly rude and uncalled for statements. The edit came as a result of the module being actually broken at the time and depicting the wrong colour in the wrong place, which prompted me to (at least attempt) fix it, so maybe it's not the best call to accuse others of "breaking" things and, instead, to be more comprehensive in the fact that many of us are being rushed to adapt into this new situation. Indeed, you did not fully revert my edit, so it was not that wrong so as to merit that kind of response, right?
If we were going to reduce this to a "don't edit it because you'll break it" issue (which is a premise that would go against WP guidelines, btw), then I could argue, on the basis of WP:BROKE, that the sudden change from party meta/color templates (that could be easily edited by anyone) to a module that only a cherry-picked few seem able to edit and that may contain multiple flaws (faulty depiction of colours at times, missing some parties, etc.) shouldn't have been done in the first place because "that's how things get broken". There are more polite and constructive ways to explain things, and maybe the way to go here would be to get other users to learn on the correct steps for editing the module (specially considering that this change affects thousands of currently existing articles and many others to come in the future) rather than to rudely prevent anyone without a full expertise on module-editing from intervening. But hey, it's your call if you wish to attend to hundreds, if not thousands, of editing petitions each month because some issue appeared, some new party has been created requiring a new colour or whatever.
Cheers. Impru20 talk 11:37, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
I am dissapointed that you removed the light curve that I placed on the PDS 70 article. PDS 70 is a T Tauri star, a type of variable star - that's what the first sentence in the article says. To me, the most natural thing to want to know about a variable star is how its brightness varies in time. That's why I put a light curve on it. I made the plot myself using data from the data server at the Barbara A. Mikulski Archive for Space Telescopes ( https://mast.stsci.edu/portal/Mashup/Clients/Mast/Portal.html). So the image is my work, although the observations certainly are not. I'd be happy to move the image around on the page if you think it was placed in a way that harms the readability of the article. I'd be grateful to hear any suggewstion you might have about how the plot could be improoved. But I think your removal of the plot was unwarranted. PopePompus ( talk) 21:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Primefac! I saw
your recent close of the sub judice template nomination—thanks for taking the initiative to contact WMF Legal. The fact that they've deliberately chosen not to weigh in is very much news to me. I don't think that's just a minor note
, but something that has the potential to shape the debate, as a central argument for keeping is the legal one, and if the foundation doesn't feel a need to weigh in on the question, that might shift the discussion. I also question whether the
normal no consensus -> keep model is the right path for this circumstance, since this template is giving guidance, and keeping it results in us providing guidance for which there is no consensus. I would like to at the very least have it noted in the template's documentation that there is no consensus regarding its use. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk
02:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
I noticed you did fix the problem. But your edit appears as an revert. Stop making undos that are stealth fixes.
I'll restore the edit now. CapnZapp ( talk) 19:45, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Since
CapnZapp personally invited
Blablubbs and
Jonesey95 to a discussion on this matter, it seems appropriate to also invite
Primefac: You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia talk:Reverting § Using undo for an edit that isn't a revert.
Schazjmd
(talk)
18:27, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
With this edit, PrimeBOT blanked a user talk page with the edit summary of "Task 24: removal of a template following a TFD", rather than removing the 8-char templates it usually removes when doing this task. Dhtwiki ( talk) 04:43, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Hey Primefac! I noticed you deleted the revisions of a vandal on WP:AIV however you missed a few other edits by the same editor to other pages, and also a few edits by sinebot signing the user's comments that will also qualify under RD3. ― Blaze The Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:07, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
The Admin's Barnstar | |
This is the closest barnstar I could find to reward you for dealing with revdels of vandals who just went too far. There might be one that is for this purpose however it's not included in the WikiLove script I use. Again, thanks for dealing with those vandals edits that qualify for rev deletion. ― Blaze The Wolf TalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC) |
Is this expected? (I've no objection; actually, I prefer it. But if it's unintentional, then I thought you'd like to know.) WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:22, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
·
with ·
is something that AWB does automatically, so while it is not specifically part of the task, it falls under acceptable genfixes auto-generated by AWB.
Primefac (
talk)
11:00, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi @ Primefac:, Please delete this draft Draft:Roma Thapa as i accidentally created. Fade258 ( talk) 18:06, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
Hi @ Primefac:, I was wondering if possible you could help in designing an a simple infobox, Template:Infobox TikTok personality I have tried to get it working but failed. All it needs to have is “image”, “Followers” and “Likes” and needs to work as a module in other infoboxes. Hope you can help, Thanks. TapticInfo ( talk) 15:28, 5 October 2021 (UTC)
Any chance that Primebot will be doing infobox genfixes again. Specifically restoring basic indentation and spacing? There are some editors out there who have somehow convinced themselves that stripping out spaces from the infobox is a good idea (ignoring the example of Template:Infobox film or the idea that any human might ever try read the wiki markup and improve the contents).
I see that Primebot has fixed this kind of thing before (as recently as 26 July 2021) and if I thought Primebot was going to fix it again in the near future it would be very reassuring and I wouldn't need to waste time trying to communicate with an editor who refuses to even discuss it (and who's edits are factually and content-wise fairly good, it's just his stubborn insistence on stripping spacing from the markup that's causing problems). Thanks. -- 109.77.209.225 ( talk) 15:11, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi @ Primefac:, Can I use same Wikipedia user account in both mobile and desktop computer by using same IP address ? Fade258 ( talk) 12:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
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I believe you already have come across this (Concerning the editor Kaizenify). I’m not sure if it was you who granted them AFC pseudo rights, but all the same I find it imperative to let you know that they are making wrong and dubious accepts at AFC as detailed in that entry. If it isn’t you who granted him the afc pseudo rights then I’m sorry for presuming wrongly. Celestina007 ( talk) 21:03, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
{{
notability}}
& {{
unreliable sources}}
to the article & that is a problematic accept if I have seen one, @
Curb Safe Charmer was the first to nab this suspicious move, and correctly moved the article back to Draftspace as it was clearly an ADMASQ, they queried
Kaizenify on why they accepted that & their excuse or rationale didn’t make much sense after which they deleted the convo. I Notice this much later and ask Kaizenify why he accepted an article & affix the aforementioned tags, like why are you accepting an article at AFC if you know the sources used are unreliable? Of course they made no response. If it was done to throw editors off his scent I don’t know. What’s interesting is I wasn’t even aware this had been discussed before by CSC who is quite meticulous, articulate and intelligent at his duties, I noticed this odd move to. So yes, that was a problematic accept.
Celestina007 (
talk)
14:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac. Is this intended? [1] — DaxServer ( talk to me) 11:49, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Sir thank you for issuing me the rights for AFC review for temporary period. If you have time, could you please look into my first day performance on AfC reviewing. In case of any negative thing you looked upon. Please tell me so that I can rectify it next time. In case of my term ends, can I be promoted to permanent active members taking into my contributions on AfC reviewing.
Thanking you,
Best Wishes,
Jyoti Roy ( talk) 04:20, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac, we've removed |slogan=
from five infoboxes with more than 30,000 combined transclusions: {{
Infobox radio station}}, {{
Infobox radio network}}, {{
Infobox broadcasting network}}, {{
Infobox television station}}, {{
Infobox television channel}}. Can PrimeBOT be run across all five to remove uses of this parameter, including blank ones? The removal discussion is
here.
Sammi Brie (she/her •
t •
c)
03:34, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
|web=
to |website=
on Infobox television channel. This would avoid a clobber error, as noted at
Template talk:Infobox television channel#web/website.
Sammi Brie (she/her •
t •
c)
04:17, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Dear Primefac,
I'm rather new to this, but I believe you closed the discussion on the proposed deletion of NavBox template US military utility vehicles on 16 October ?
Were you aware that the discussion on How to split the template is still ongoing ?
Does such a deletion proposal during the ongoing debate on replacing the navbox not run counter to
WP:MULTI, i.e. starting the same discussion on multiple pages ? —
Is it really fair game to propose deletion of a thing, while consensus on proper replacement has not yet been reached ??
Furthermore: you stated: "Please make sure any extant uses that are not also covered by the split templates are replaced and not just orphaned."
But are you aware, that user
Cavalryman's template {{
Post-WWII US Soft Vehicles}}
covers only 50 of the roughly 76 post‑1945 articles that were included in the now deleted navbox – orphaning some 26 of them, the way I understand it..?
And finally: I had higher hopes regarding the quality of the debate on deletion... I had expected it to respect WP:NOTDEMOCRACY, and instead focus more on sound arguments, and reasonable application of logic... — Thus, much more than just: users x and y are in favor, and only user z is against ?
I'm unsure I should bring this to your attention in this way. If I'm erroneous, would you please be willing to point me to the proper procedure to find answers to these issues ?
Thank you in advance, and with respectful regards, -- GeeTeeBee ( talk) 14:42, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
made a U-turnon what was agreed is a red herring, another delaying tactic only adopted 10 days after the TfD discussion commenced, I have clearly stated I am very open to discuss a further split [2], and I remain happy to do so.
thank you for clarifying TfD is the appropriate venue for template splitting discussions- I did not say that, nor am I trying to imply it. As I said in this parallel discussion, TFD is really for use when there is little or no participation at the venue, or there is pushback - a year or so ago there were a dozen TFDs asking for splits where there was no opposition or prior discussion, and the end result is essentially a wasted week and time spent closing TFDs with no participants. If something can be done outwith TFD, it should be done. Primefac ( talk) 07:31, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
You've expanded x2 an IP addition where there is no citation; likewise at his website - no mention where he was schooled. I'm minded to delete this entirely. Any objections?
His wikibio ( Mark Henderson (lighting designer)) is almost entirely unreferenced, and similarly no mention of schooling. The Guardian has only "...in my home town in Nottinghamshire" and BBC Gloucestershire has "Born in Mansfield...". I usually do a bit of 'before'. Thank you.-- Rocknrollmancer ( talk) 18:06, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Leaky caldron ( talk) 18:33, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
I have now made 100,000 edits, and I am wondering when I get the barnstar that says I that have achieved this. Davidgoodheart ( talk) 22:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
May i request to remove me in the list? I am busy in real life (new job) and shifted my focus in Path of Exile wiki so that i feel i am semi-retired in en-wikipedia. Matthew hk ( talk) 11:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
An editor was blocked on it.wiki a few months ago but remains active on en.wiki. Some IPs and a new account recently made duck-like edits to it.wiki and es.wiki. The new account also created an account on en.wiki.
More details can be found here:
May I request a checkuser? Thanks, mate! SimoneBilesStan ( talk) 23:50, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi. How to select particular set of edits from contribution history? Like you have done here. I tried selecting using dates, but it is different than the links provided by you. —usernamekiran (talk) sign the (guestbook) 06:58, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
|limit=
sets the number of edits, the |offset=
sets the timestamp of the newest diff (or earlier). If I wanted to pick the previous 25 diffs that I made yesterday, I would do https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Special:Contributions/Primefac&offset=20211017214400&limit=25 for a result of
[4]. Note that the timestamp is YYYYMMDDhhmmss. Hope that helps.
Primefac (
talk)
07:11, 18 October 2021 (UTC)
hi why remove my edit in gbif bot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amirh123 ( talk • contribs) 18:16, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi sorry to bug you, could you check on IndentBot's BRFA? I'd like to run another trial. Winston ( talk) 03:12, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the ping. I did see that comment, but I have zero desire to interact with that particular editor, who, frankly, should have been banned a long time ago. It's impossible to have a proper debate with that group of editors (referred to in this comment I put on my userpage nearly ten years ago) – even the comment made there about East German elections template is disingenuous. Cheers, Number 5 7 09:33, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi,
I've just request (and received it) permission to use the copyrighted material on the draft /info/en/?search=.NET_nanoFramework that you've deleted a few hours ago. Any chance that you can restore it so I don't have to spend (again) a couple of hours rewriting it?
Really appreciate that! Thanks, J.a.simoes ( talk) 16:28, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac,
I've asked (and received) permission to use the copyrighted text that was on the draft article /info/en/?search=.NET_nanoFramework that you've deleted a few hours ago. Any chance you can recover that and save me from spending (again) a few hours rewriting it?
Really appreciate it!
PS: this message could be repeated as I'm unsure if I really sent the first time
J.a.simoes ( talk) 16:34, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
Sir I want to resign from the reviewer of Wikiproject:Wikipedia Article for creation because I am busy currently in my educational works. Therefore it will be difficult for me to review the drafts all the time. I would request you to remove my name from the list. I will request again once my works are done for.
Thanking you,
Yours sincerely,
-- Jyoti Roy ( talk) 09:49, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you sir. Jyoti Roy ( talk) 09:54, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
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The deleted draft is a recovery from an earlier version of said page, which in turn, the page that you believed was copyrighted from, was actually the one who borrowed, to begin with. There is no infringement on my part. check the history of the actual page and compare, it's clear that I was the first. (though I have no problem with other sites using it! I just want to make sure that's absolutely clear) Thanks, and have a nice day. -- Smcupcake19 ( talk) 22:46, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello Primefac. Did you intend for the protection of the various subpages of Module:Transclusion count/data to expire after 48 hours? These seem like the kind of thing that should be permanently protected? 192.76.8.77 ( talk) 04:25, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I have written an article about Reza Tajbakhsh in the draft. Can I create it myself because I have added resources to the article and Because the article is WP:GNG compliant. Also references full covered WP:NWSRC. And the article is ready to move to WP:Mainspace.-- Modeling ( talk) 21:44, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hello, I am trying to use the coordinates templates on an external wiki which does not have Lua however I have come across an obstacle. The template Template:Precision1 has been deleted, but it is used by one of the coordinates templates. Would you be able to restore it briefly so I can copy it over to the wiki I'm working on, or email me with its contents? Sorry I know this is a weird request, but I can't figure out another way to get cordinates working. Best wishes NemesisAT ( talk) 15:43, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello I wanted to thank you about editing a page about my dad I have a project do about military personnel and I went on Wikipedia to get some answers. About my dad and there was a watch of messed up stuff and I saw that you edit things to make it better I just wanted to say thank you for editing it. It is Joseph T guastella. :p 2601:283:487E:1890:45A:BC4F:3498:3633 ( talk) 22:26, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
Just curious; what did I mess up? :-) WaltCip-( talk) 16:08, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello Primefac, hope all is well with you. I've been taking a 3-year break from Wikipedia editing so I'm back after 3 years. I remember back in 2018 when you gave me tips and advice on how to bring a draft to have a better chance of being accepted. I remember having a chat with another Wikipedia admin on the Wikimedia Community Discord Server and they agreed with the idea that one particular section of an article I noticed should be cleaned up for violating WP:NOT and then one day later after cleaning up the section of the article some random new IP address leaves a message on my talk page out of the blue saying that cleaning up the article is unnecessary and irrelevant. Considering you have much more experience on Wikipedia than me and have probably dealt with something similar at some point.
Would it be a wise choice just to ignore what that IP address says because the IP address that sent me that message seems to have a very limited understanding of editing articles.
Just curious as well but are you also in the Wikimedia Community Discord Server. It's a nice place to chat just like IRC where people get live help and support. Anonymous1941 ( talk) 03:34, 8 November 2021 (UTC).
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When I look back at my journey thus far, I can’t imagine myself making all the positive contributions to the collaborative project if you hadn’t take a chance on me. You may have forgotten but some years ago, i decided to request a perm, in order to serve the community better but all the gatekeepers who stalk perms gave a million reasons why I didn’t qualify but you nonetheless took a chance on me and look how well that turned out. Please keep being you no matter what. You are an exceptional human and a “father” figure to me. Thank you so much for taking a chance on me I’m eternally indebted to you. Celestina007 ( talk) 19:31, 12 November 2021 (UTC) |
Hi,
I added this incident and cited my sources before it was removed. I understand the grey areas with referencing a news outlet no matter how reputable. This incident however has to be added to Prior Lake's profile as they have been in the news repeatedly for racial incidents. I could add original content without citing any source but if I do that, it invalidates the content and becomes my personal opinion. How do you suggest I add this ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarrieG ( talk • contribs) 17:55, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Primefac Sure! Will do. Thanks for the feedback. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarrieG ( talk • contribs) 19:41, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Why was this histmerged? It was an undiscussed cut and paste move so it should have just been redirected or deleted. There was no useful content to histmerge and the result has thrown off the attribution history. czar 05:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Hey, Primefac,
One of my routine activities is checking the broken redirects lists. Today, a couple of talk pages showed up as broken redirects (very typical) but when I looked at the template pages for the talk pages, they had speedy deletion tags and the last edits to the page were by you in September 2021 (see Template:Uw-vandal-rand1/sandbox and Template:Uw-vandal-rand1/testcases). So, have these pages been tagged for speedy deletion for over 2 months and not showing up in the CSD categories? Or did some system gremlin just tag them and the edit doesn't show up in the page history? I know that happens with maintenance categories past their due date, a speedy deletion tag appears without a bot actually adding it to the page in an edit. Curious, for non-tech minds like myself.
Oh, if you are are an admin talk page stalker, please don't delete these pages until Primefac can respond. That happens every time I report a problem at the Village Pump Tech board. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 23:06, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
{{
template sandbox notice}}
and {{
template test cases notice}}
) that automatically create CSD notices when the template the subpages belong to is deleted or non-existent.
clpo13(
talk)
00:31, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:THQ § page edit not accepted. Marchjuly ( talk) 07:17, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Primefac,
I'm coming to you because you and your talk page stalkers might know what to do about this one. MediaWiki talk:Apihelp-main-extended-description/sandbox and MediaWiki talk:Mobile-frontend-editor-disabled/sandbox popped up on an Orphaned talk subpage list. Originally, this was a list from 2020 of over 1000 pages that I worked on over summer 2021 and got down to a manageable size that updates weekly.
But I don't know anything about MediaWiki pages and whether or not these talk pages or their MediaWiki pages, serve any purpose or can be deleted. When I checked, no other pages link to them but, as I found out in a mistake with templates, just because no pages link to a page doesn't mean that it is doing nothing. I truly don't know where to go to ask as I couldn't even tag these MediaWiki pages for MFD discussion. Any ideas or suggestions? Liz Read! Talk! 05:35, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Hello, are you able to get the 4BC Wikipedia Page Logo updated, as I can't get through wiki commons.
RoakleyTheBirb ( talk) 14:21, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Sir a creator of this draft, is constantly submitting this article in different naming pattern of same person. It is rejected due to not notable. Please kindly deal with this person as he has disclosed me that he was paid for the article. He didn't maintain any COI format, and still sending this article. Please look into this situation. Jyoti Roy ( talk) 09:33, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac! I noticed you recently lowered the protection of {{ Find sources}} and related from TPE to EC. Given that it has more than 500,000 transclusions, I was rather surprised. Could you share the request you mentioned in the summary and expand on your reasoning for granting it? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 16:13, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Can you please add the Junior Pan American Games to this template? Thank you in advance. Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 22:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac!
Based on what I can tell, this would involve, say, replacing
["Zoram Nationalist Party"] = {abbrev = "", color = "#0000FF", shortname = "",},
with
["Zoram Nationalist Party"] = {abbrev = "ZNP", color = "#0000FF", shortname = "",},
I would like to help with this as I need something to do and this seems like the sort of thing that I'd like doing. I'd only add an abbreviation if there was one listed at the article or a /shortname or /abbreviation template. You are within your rights to decline this request.
YttriumShrew ( talk) 07:32, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Good day, Primefac,
I was just deleting some broken redirects and came upon one related to this TFD discussion which was closed and resulted in you deleting the templates involved earlier today. Following a trail, it led me to Category:Wikipedia title cleanup which is a category for pages tagged with those now deleted templates. Should it also be deleted? Or are there other existing templates that might use it? Right now, it just contains Template:Renamed. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 17:30, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
PennaRican ( talk) 18:41, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Hi Primefac. TTP1233 was re-added to the list of AfC reviewers 11 days ago. I came across one of their reviews and was concerned so had a look at a few more. I left them a note on their talk page but their reply didn't fill me with confidence. Some specific issues:
Their review history is here. Curb Safe Charmer ( talk) 21:28, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Per you're posted outcome at TfD, and the fact it went into holding. I've changed the results back to how the WP:FOOTY project normally has them. Took a fair bit of work! You should be able to delete the template now. Regards. Govvy ( talk) 16:54, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: Renaming, Deadnaming, Blocks, UCoC & policy and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.
Thanks, Cabayi ( talk) 12:23, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi! Please change the following line, because the officially used coat of arms has changed:
old:
| Nuremberg=Wappen von Nürnberg.svg
new:
| Nuremberg=DEU Nürnberg COA (klein).svg
Thank you, Doc Taxon ( talk) 17:29, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
A new error message has cropped up at {{
Compact election box no change}} and a couple of other places. It appears to be tied to the use of |candidate3_party_unlinked=
. The table row that holds this parameter ends up with its cell completely outside of the table, and the remaining cells are shifted to the left. Since you are doing the amazing work of migrating these templates, I figured I would drop a note here instead of trying to decipher all of the new code myself. Keep up the great work! –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
20:52, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
|candidateX_party=
and |candidateX_party_unlinked=
. Now, they're all piped in the usual {{{candidate_party|}}} manner, meaning that nothing should be passed to the subtemplate, which means when the {{{candidate_party}}} is used, it should appear as such and not as an empty space. However, it was appearing as an empty space, and the module can't handle that. I don't know why this seems to be the only place this is manifesting, but... now you know.
Primefac (
talk)
21:51, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
{{#if:{{{candidate_party|}}}|{{{candidate_party}}}}}
rather than just {{{candidate_party|}}}
(in this case, {{#if:{{{candidate_party|}}}|{{{candidate_party}}}|white}}
or something similar might be better). I wish it worked differently, and I especially wish that I could remember this tip every time I need it.... –
Jonesey95 (
talk)
23:35, 1 December 2021 (UTC)Hello! Can you check regarding countries at the Olympics?. India was named British India until 1936. Vietnam was named South Vietnam until 1972. Rhodesia was named Southern Rhodesia until 1964. Surinam was named Dutch Guyana until 1975. Egypt was named the United Arab Republic until 1968. It is important that the article names correspond correctly with the names at the time and not the name after that. Yours sincerely, Sondre -- 88.89.14.227 ( talk) 22:12, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
you should probably remove the template: prefix when changing these. 98.230.196.188 ( talk) 15:28, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
Hi, for the infobox country at games template, Pakistan at the Winter Olympics shows 2006 as a year competed. They did not compete in 2006, and the article redirects to another article. Is there anyway we can remove the 2006 ? Sportsfan 1234 ( talk) 19:57, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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Howdy. You could strip your gears doing that ;) GoodDay ( talk) 08:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I'm writing to you about this page after reading the option on Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents that lets editors skip the drama and contact a recently active administrator to help with a problem. This page has an ongoing edit war basically that's of a rather substantial nature. One editor is disputing that this person was ever a king and there's been a back and forth with him and another editor. However, this problem is not something that just manifested today. Someone from Bulgaria under the number 193.68.139.54 made a big edit of a similar nature on August 21 that has since been reverted. I suspect it's the same person but either way, this contention could go on indefinitely. I'm just watching on the sides so I'm wondering if some order could be imposed? I'm using this option because I figured it's the most appropriate one given the situation. -- Killuminator ( talk) 12:01, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you there, I don't mean to be a pain or put a burden on you but can you please have a word with Deancarmeli, I am honestly feel his action were wrong and I feel somewhat wiki-bullied by him. :/ Govvy ( talk) 12:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for being willing to assess those. —valereee ( talk) 20:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
I often see you at TfD, when they say substitute, does that just mean transferring the information out of a template? I still feel confused by WP:SUBSTITUTE sometimes.
I also wondered what you make of this template; Template:2023 FIBA Basketball World Cup qualification (Europe) – Qualifiers matches. I was under the impression that you should avoid storing certain amounts of information in a template that belongs in an article. I have no idea what to do here as Basketball isn't really my project, I follow the sport a little bit. But at the moment feel at a loss. I was under the impression this shouldn't be done and is wrong, regards. Govvy ( talk) 23:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
{{
Party color|Not-a-party}}
→ {{
subst:party color|Not-a-party}}
→ #F8F9FA
. Sometimes there is prep-work needed on the template-side of things, for example
making a template substable, but the end result is almost always replacing a template call with the template's contents.This and this are incredibly rude and uncalled for statements. The edit came as a result of the module being actually broken at the time and depicting the wrong colour in the wrong place, which prompted me to (at least attempt) fix it, so maybe it's not the best call to accuse others of "breaking" things and, instead, to be more comprehensive in the fact that many of us are being rushed to adapt into this new situation. Indeed, you did not fully revert my edit, so it was not that wrong so as to merit that kind of response, right?
If we were going to reduce this to a "don't edit it because you'll break it" issue (which is a premise that would go against WP guidelines, btw), then I could argue, on the basis of WP:BROKE, that the sudden change from party meta/color templates (that could be easily edited by anyone) to a module that only a cherry-picked few seem able to edit and that may contain multiple flaws (faulty depiction of colours at times, missing some parties, etc.) shouldn't have been done in the first place because "that's how things get broken". There are more polite and constructive ways to explain things, and maybe the way to go here would be to get other users to learn on the correct steps for editing the module (specially considering that this change affects thousands of currently existing articles and many others to come in the future) rather than to rudely prevent anyone without a full expertise on module-editing from intervening. But hey, it's your call if you wish to attend to hundreds, if not thousands, of editing petitions each month because some issue appeared, some new party has been created requiring a new colour or whatever.
Cheers. Impru20 talk 11:37, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
I am dissapointed that you removed the light curve that I placed on the PDS 70 article. PDS 70 is a T Tauri star, a type of variable star - that's what the first sentence in the article says. To me, the most natural thing to want to know about a variable star is how its brightness varies in time. That's why I put a light curve on it. I made the plot myself using data from the data server at the Barbara A. Mikulski Archive for Space Telescopes ( https://mast.stsci.edu/portal/Mashup/Clients/Mast/Portal.html). So the image is my work, although the observations certainly are not. I'd be happy to move the image around on the page if you think it was placed in a way that harms the readability of the article. I'd be grateful to hear any suggewstion you might have about how the plot could be improoved. But I think your removal of the plot was unwarranted. PopePompus ( talk) 21:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC)