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The above is just a template welcome. I suggest you read up on WP:RS which is a [[WP:PAG|guideline]. I have long thought of it as the bedrock and foundation of content and why readers should not dismiss Wikipedia articles as they often do with comments like "Anyone can edit and put anything they want" or "You can't use Wikipedia in a college essay. It's not reliable." Unlike mainstream media, everything must be sourced with reliable sources. If not, we often get rid of it ASAP--especially in the most important articles. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 02:50, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Also, I suggest you read up on WP:COI, which starts "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships." When a new editor shows up very focused on a single subject with particular content they want to add/remove, it often makes other Wikipedia editors wonder if there is WP:COI. I'm not saying you do, but just in case, I wanted to make sure you are aware of the guideline. If you do have a COI, make sure to disclose it--especially before editing an article where you have a COI. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 01:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Clearly, you want to see content added to this article vis-a-vis Tupac's purported activist activities, but worry that your efforts may be reverted. That happens. I suggest that you develop content in your Sandbox, along with properly formated references, and only when comfortable, copy all that into the article as a new section. If it gets reverted - very possible - then start a new discussion on the Talk page, invite the person who reverted you and any others with an interest, to try to reach a consensus at the Talk page as to what can be said and what are valid references. David notMD ( talk) 11:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Please remember to follow WP:BRD. If an editor reverts anything you do, discuss on talk page and try to form a WP:CONSENSUS. I'm not saying you forgot this. I just noticed that some of your work got reverted and new editors often take offense and try to revert back, which is not a good idea.-- David Tornheim ( talk) 19:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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I disagree with your reasoning and will continue to remove songwriter from the lead. Just because he wrote his own songs does not mean it was a "main occupation" of his or should be considered an occupation that he made money from. You're saying the fact other music artists don't have this in the lead of their article doesn't matter, and I also disagree. So therefore until settled by another editor, this will be considered an edit war because I will continue to remove your edits. Darrencdm1988 ( talk) 00:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
-- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Please make sure to discuss article content on the article talk page rather than the user's talk page. You seem to be in the habit of doing that with at least four different users 10 May 2024, 20 April 2024, 18 April 2024, 24 March 2024. Other editors will not know to look at those users' talk pages and know about any discussion you have had there or on your own talk page. If the editor is behaving badly and you are warning them, then one does use the user's talk page. But really you need to start with the article talk page first--in all four of those cases.
And again, I recommend you follow my advice from before: (1) Work on other articles, or you may be accused of being a WP:SPA. I guess you don't have to do this, but I think it will help you in the long-run to understand how things work here. (2) Focus on using WP:RS to ground your arguments. A long time ago, you asked for help, and I asked you to make a table of WP:RS. I don't know why you have not done this. Is it because you don't know how to make a table? -- David Tornheim ( talk) 05:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
I improved the citation you added here. I noticed it because the citation bot came in and added a two fields--article title and article date. If you have a link to an article, you can usually get a pretty good citation by using the "automatic" option for the "add a citation" selection of Visual editor toolbar. Are you using the Visual Editor ( Visual Editor help)? Doing the automatic citation is described here. (The keyboard shortcut on Windows for adding a citation is holding down these three keys simultaneously: CTRL-SHIFT-K.) I used the "automatic" citation to make the better reference that added the author's last name, author's first name, date of the article, and access date without having to copy and paste or enter any of the data by hand. Please let me know if you are able to use the "automatic" citation. It simplifies and can really speed up the tedious work of finding all the fields of a proper citation. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 12:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Pier1999, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially your edits to User talk:Binksternet. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
You may also want to complete the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit the Teahouse to ask questions or seek help. Need some ideas about what kind of things need doing? Try the Task Center.
Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or , and a volunteer should respond shortly. Again, welcome! -- David Tornheim ( talk) 02:41, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
The above is just a template welcome. I suggest you read up on WP:RS which is a [[WP:PAG|guideline]. I have long thought of it as the bedrock and foundation of content and why readers should not dismiss Wikipedia articles as they often do with comments like "Anyone can edit and put anything they want" or "You can't use Wikipedia in a college essay. It's not reliable." Unlike mainstream media, everything must be sourced with reliable sources. If not, we often get rid of it ASAP--especially in the most important articles. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 02:50, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Also, I suggest you read up on WP:COI, which starts "Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships." When a new editor shows up very focused on a single subject with particular content they want to add/remove, it often makes other Wikipedia editors wonder if there is WP:COI. I'm not saying you do, but just in case, I wanted to make sure you are aware of the guideline. If you do have a COI, make sure to disclose it--especially before editing an article where you have a COI. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 01:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Clearly, you want to see content added to this article vis-a-vis Tupac's purported activist activities, but worry that your efforts may be reverted. That happens. I suggest that you develop content in your Sandbox, along with properly formated references, and only when comfortable, copy all that into the article as a new section. If it gets reverted - very possible - then start a new discussion on the Talk page, invite the person who reverted you and any others with an interest, to try to reach a consensus at the Talk page as to what can be said and what are valid references. David notMD ( talk) 11:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Please remember to follow WP:BRD. If an editor reverts anything you do, discuss on talk page and try to form a WP:CONSENSUS. I'm not saying you forgot this. I just noticed that some of your work got reverted and new editors often take offense and try to revert back, which is not a good idea.-- David Tornheim ( talk) 19:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Tupac Shakur, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Academics. Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.)
It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, -- DPL bot ( talk) 18:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
I disagree with your reasoning and will continue to remove songwriter from the lead. Just because he wrote his own songs does not mean it was a "main occupation" of his or should be considered an occupation that he made money from. You're saying the fact other music artists don't have this in the lead of their article doesn't matter, and I also disagree. So therefore until settled by another editor, this will be considered an edit war because I will continue to remove your edits. Darrencdm1988 ( talk) 00:42, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
-- David Tornheim ( talk) 04:33, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Please make sure to discuss article content on the article talk page rather than the user's talk page. You seem to be in the habit of doing that with at least four different users 10 May 2024, 20 April 2024, 18 April 2024, 24 March 2024. Other editors will not know to look at those users' talk pages and know about any discussion you have had there or on your own talk page. If the editor is behaving badly and you are warning them, then one does use the user's talk page. But really you need to start with the article talk page first--in all four of those cases.
And again, I recommend you follow my advice from before: (1) Work on other articles, or you may be accused of being a WP:SPA. I guess you don't have to do this, but I think it will help you in the long-run to understand how things work here. (2) Focus on using WP:RS to ground your arguments. A long time ago, you asked for help, and I asked you to make a table of WP:RS. I don't know why you have not done this. Is it because you don't know how to make a table? -- David Tornheim ( talk) 05:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
I improved the citation you added here. I noticed it because the citation bot came in and added a two fields--article title and article date. If you have a link to an article, you can usually get a pretty good citation by using the "automatic" option for the "add a citation" selection of Visual editor toolbar. Are you using the Visual Editor ( Visual Editor help)? Doing the automatic citation is described here. (The keyboard shortcut on Windows for adding a citation is holding down these three keys simultaneously: CTRL-SHIFT-K.) I used the "automatic" citation to make the better reference that added the author's last name, author's first name, date of the article, and access date without having to copy and paste or enter any of the data by hand. Please let me know if you are able to use the "automatic" citation. It simplifies and can really speed up the tedious work of finding all the fields of a proper citation. -- David Tornheim ( talk) 12:52, 17 May 2024 (UTC)