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Hi Penyulap, can you explain what these two articles are meant to do? The NoJava version seems to be a content fork of International Space Station. Are you trying to create some version of the article for use on mobile devices? This just doesn't seem like a good way to go about things. Best, Sparthorse ( talk) 09:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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Nice work on the intro on the Stop Online Piracy Act page, it makes it much more accessible. Sloggerbum ( talk) 21:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC) |
Why thank you, I LOVE SHINY THINGS !!!!! WooHoo !!!!! Penyulap talk 21:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey Penyulap, even though you are "semi-retired" I see you've been busy on Talk:Stop Online Piracy Act. It seems that you've been voluntarily injecting yourself into a very heating subject, and I felt that I should commend you on your neutrality, article improvements, and general responses. SOPA got nearly two million views on Wednesday, and there's been so much discussion on the Talk page that its like 200 kilobytes despite the heavy application of MiszaBot. I see so many random IPs posting this like "this article is so ridiculously biased, Wikipedia's being stupid about the whole thing" and I appreciate you trying to take care of things in a very constructive way. That's all. Hope you don't get too emotionally affected by all the flak. Keep up the good work! Jessemv ( talk) 23:51, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
I added a reference there because I didn't have time to thoroughly study the article and work it in elsewhere. If the line I changed reflects content elsewhere, then it would be a nightmare to go hashing it up and fighting off people who disagree with my changes. I made a near indisputable change (a sentence of which the intrinsic grammar was violated) to fix one sure thing that revealed bias that couldn't be questioned. My one reference is a suggestion that that type of error that exists in the rest of the article be addressed. Feel free to work it in elsewhere and remove the link, however, if no one's inserted a similar reference (standing FBI policy on copyright infringement), I strongly suggest it remain there as an example of work that needs to be done. It's a much better tentative than nothing at all. My change, IMO, addresses a major point that opponents of the bill fail to address. Squish7 ( talk) 01:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Mlpearc ( powwow) 17:45, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey Penyulap, I wish i could assist you. But frankly I dont have any rights in COmmons. -- Karthik Nadar 17:53, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
It's a bribe. No beverage until you work some of your magic on the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement intro (w/refs preferably). ACTA is about to be getting a lot of traffic, save them all from nosebleeds? Sloggerbum ( talk) 19:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC) |
3RR WARNING - You really can 20:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
an image that is in the news, all over the news.
An image created by the artist who is all over the news, in protest against SOPA and PIPA.
Naturally, they can't be included in the article. Penyulap talk 20:50, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing at the [ Tamil Wikipedia page] :) -- C.R.Selvakumar ( talk) 22:40, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
வரவேற்கிறேன் Penyulap talk 23:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Am I right in presuming that your comments here mean that you are unwilling to remove the message you posted? If so, I'm hoping that you reconsider - while no one would be foolish enough to think that the message was by Lamar Smith, it seems inappropriate to post it on the talk page of the SOPA article, especially given current concerns. It was funny, but I'm concerned that the humour wasn't appropriate for the situation. - Bilby ( talk) 06:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
* - I have removed your demeaning self created picture of a living subject of one of our articles - please don't replace it. Thanks - You really can 10:43, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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The reason you weren't topic banned formally at the previous ANI thread is because you basically said "Hey, I should be topic banned" so everyone just said "Great, no need to great a formal ban, just go ban yourself." So rather than waste our own times in debating a topic ban, we figured we'd actually take you at your word. Topic banning you was never rejected, it was just never discussed because you said you'd ban yourself. THAT is why the topic is relevant now. It is especially relevant because even a few hours ago you said you thought a topic ban would be a good idea. only (talk) 23:43, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I so want to give you the last word, but you ask too many good questions of me. Project wide means all wiki projects, many editors only know of English Wikipedia, which we use now, but there are others, a Japanese Wikipedia, a Russian Wikipedia and so forth, there are quite a few. I have made at this moment, contributions to more than three dozen of them, but most of my contributions are space related, mostly ISS related, across 20 or so of them. So problems with one editor, on one article, at ANI turns up people shouting I should be banned across sites they may be completely unaware of, and many people show no signs they are even aware of any details at all of the dispute being discussed. It's called demagoguery and it's popular here, so popular I should write an essay to improve awareness of it. The ban for mythical creatures was also too wide. I had asked for an interaction ban, which was the ideal solution, to no avail. It wasn't even taken seriously or discussed. As for seeking attention, Wikipedia editors don't make the headlines like celebrities or talkback radio jocks or politicians, no, ours is a life of anonymity, punctuated only by an occasional barnstar I'm afraid. Wiki is no solution for attention seekers. Penyulap talk 02:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Please see WP:AN3#User:Penyulap reported by User:Bbb23 (Result: Stale). The complaint has been closed. But if any editors continue to revert the article without waiting for consensus on the talk page, action may be taken. EdJohnston ( talk) 16:38, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
(inserted by curator) see also ANI:Bullied and User:SKeptical_of_Love&action=history
Saw your changes to the ROS pic, have to admit i like the highlighted USOS but the arrows arnt necessary. They confuse the image. Also, just so you know... Progress now only docks at Pirs (future Nauka) site, and the Zvezda aft port. Soyuz will only ever dock at Poisk and Rassvet. The current photo shows this and is correct. You could annotate it to simplify it. Check out my website, I now do most my posts on Twitter thru that page now. www.spaceshuttlealmanac.com. I am getting quite the following, and enjoying it much more than being insulted on Wiki. Hope you are well. Leebrandoncremer ( talk) 08:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
It's true they are confusing, I was trying to get around requesting a slight counterclockwise rotation of the upper arrow before, it seemed not to be able to make up it's mind if it was pointing at the dm or the sm, so I thought I'd mess with it again. I know what you mean, between the fans on my talkpage and the recent assistance I got with the Operation Global Blackout article, and reading up about Wikidragons, Yeah, I'm loving it, it's all good. Penyulap talk 09:44, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
[1] - SummerPhD ( talk) 03:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, let me see,
Say, how has it been ? Do you still have that 77 scorecard on your page ? Lemme have a look. Oh yes !!! it's up to 80 something. Anyhow, enough chit chat, how may I help you, the crystal ball isn't working, or is it working too well ? And, I'd also like to know is there any problem with me talking about my previous editing on the tooth fairy article on my talkpage ? Penyulap talk 04:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict, I'll post this bit first but probably comment above, cause I already posted a tb on his page) Well what do you know, he's no beginner. I'll ask him about his pushing here, you know, for continuity. Xenophrenic, can you tell me why, as I had asked you specifically on the talkpage, actually, here I'll quote my question
Xenophrenic, don't remove notable parts of the lead like this, say why you think they shouldn't be included.
I'm happy for them to be removed if there is some kind of good reason. Penyulap talk 18:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
That was my question as timestamped there, next day, you've taken out two of them for the third time at the very least, without a mention of why on the talkpage, why is that ? Penyulap talk 06:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the late notification, when I pressed preview to see if the tb was correct, I think a new messages thing came up and I was diverted. Penyulap talk 07:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
plus what I have told you is a peacock term, 'expert'. I've asked you on the talkpage what is going on, and you've ignored me, and done it all over again the next day. You know better than that looking at your userpage. Penyulap talk 07:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, that article was rather busy with newbies, and from the way that you were acting I fully concluded that you were a newbie. I see now that's not the cause. Here is why I thought you were a newbie.
Removing "The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a rights advocacy non-profit group, confirmed the protests were the biggest in Internet history, with over 115 thousand sites altering their webpages."
Removing "The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) warns that proxy servers and websites hosting user-generated content, such as Etsy, Flickr and Vimeo, could be targeted under the bill"
So I figured you weren't answering questions asked on the talkpage because you were a newbie. Considering the overwhelming speed of that article's editing, and the amount of newbies who I was helping on the article talkpage I'm sure you'll forgive me for not somehow noticing the, actually, where were the explanations again ? One of them was in the edit summary was it ? where were the others exactly? Penyulap talk 16:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
So I think that the peacock term is being returned to the article because it is there in one other place I didn't notice ? So rather than remove peacock terms, we have to balance peacock terms in the article between the "supporters and opponents" sections of the article. Cool, and rather than explain on the article talkpage, it's explained somewhere else. No worries. I'll leave the peacock terms for you to balance out as you see fit. Penyulap talk 16:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
This user is a
WikiDragon making massive, bold edits everywhere. |
I found something I quite like. Penyulap talk 10:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
OMG you're a total GENIUS, that whole "the rendezvous and docking project hardware is compatible with the International Space Station." - Jiang Guohua, a professor and chief engineer at the China Astronaut Research and Training Center in Beijing. is brilliant. Stick it in the article man ! I can't steal your thunder there, you've had that since march ? good thing you remember/mention it ! That is brilliant ! Especially since it's the first specific mention of the rendezvous system. Which suggests more than it reveals as to where the docking would occur, yes, because as far as I kwikinow, there is no (automatic) rendezvous system whatsoever on the USOS, it's strictly Russian.
Anyhow as for the public domain thing, it's like 'So totally too late' horse has bolted and so forth. The Americans are simply trying to make their version the standard, however, JAXA is the only agency I can see being told to take it up. The ESA, Russians and Chinese have the standard and are far too busy going to MARS to backtrack for no reason whatsoever, except to help America avoid the requirement to use the Russian designed system on it's craft in future if it wants to co-operate. If they get that onto the station, or if it is scheduled to go, like on the new commercial craft, then it's in the article, but as it is, can't see it's relevancy. (even though it is released into the PD it is still a US idea, and gives them boasting rights)
ITAR is just another way to say 'we don't like you' after all you can only copy answers in class if you are copying off someone who knows more than you, whats to learn from the ISS that 921 and tiangong 3 heavy don't already demonstrate ? Still if there is a page for ITAR, a link is good for the impediments that America makes towards Chinese partnership.
Re the technical incompatibilities, that's to do with the rendezvous system, is the Shenzhou optical whilst the Russian is RF, making it an obvious (and easy) requirement to EVA attach the appropriate fittings to the ISS first, they are always fiddling with the Kurs furniture up there, so it's no big hassle. Penyulap talk 05:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Spacecraft assembled and provisioned on the moon could escape its far lower gravity using far less energy, and thus, far less cost.
— Epic Accounting Fail. Encyclopedia of epic accounting fails Google search, pp 55-57.
I put that one back in, initially I left it out because I had to shove in so many refs for it, that it would ugly up the article, so I just left it out. I didn't know how to do notes, (I probably still don't actually) anyhow, I put it back in, and wrestled until I got the notes thing looking ok. Let me know if it seems ok to you. I think I left out one, but that's ok too, as it's generally, rather than always, and I can't care to find out or telephone the guy :) Penyulap talk 10:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap. I had to deny the transfer of File:Isshtv120090917200858nm.jpg from here to Commons, as Commons cannot accept "word of mouth" permissions for files, and technically they are not accepted here, either. You will need to get in touch with the author, and have them send an email to OTRS stating the filename and that they release the image under a particular license or into the public domain. Full instructions can be found at Commons:OTRS, and I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. Thanks. — Huntster ( t @ c) 10:17, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I was looking at ISS article, particulary
this section, and I think it's a good idea to make clickable version for some of its images, by labeling them like
this one, also we can make clickable areas with a different method (yeah, cool! I made some before, see
this one) -- using
ImageMap MediaWiki extension (itself uses the
<map>
tag). I like doing these sort of things so if you think it is useful just say the word and I'll come to assist. --
Z
01:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict, we both went after that 'I') OMG you're my new bestest friend. I've been crying out all over the page for help there, and labeling all the piccies in three or more languages, YOUR IDEA IS AN OUTRAGE to all the shit work I've been doing so far. Please, we so need it because it's really easy to change labels that are not in the image itself to suit all the different wikipedia languages as well, 77 last time I counted, but some of those are beyond hope. (Wikipedia is not a concept that translates into many cultures for reasons I won't go into.) Choosing the image is the interesting part, because we need super hires ones that zoom in, because I can label all the dohickies and whatsimacallits and thingamabobs on the outside of the station and ships too. But lets start with something simple I guess. It's hard to find one for all the pressurized modules, except when the station is viewed from it's underside ! And Kibō is so camera shy all we can come up with is this here at the top, to show her on orbit. Blah! The File:Russian Orbital Segment.png pic is an awesome choice, it's used across a few articles. Craigboy, and if we can treat the poor bloke with a bit more respect, Leebrandoncremer, are experts with images and so forth. But how about TheAnarcat pic in the structure section, is that one a cool place to start off ? (darn, something wrong and I can't load it atm) anyhow, if it's as hires as i recall, maybe it's the place to start, what do you think, where would you like to start, and how can I help, besides 200% support of course? Penyulap talk 01:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Now my other genius idea is that the links don't just goto the different articles, but they goto different images, so you've got click to zoom, which takes you to different pictures and different portions of the station. Have you seen something called google streetview ? you click links that move you up and down the street. Now that is what I'm talking about. A dam good article. should be plenty of inspiration there for everyone. Penyulap talk 06:48, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm actually trying to use the both methods in one! So the articles would be opened by clicking on the labels, and if people click on different parts of the ROS they will go to the related image. I finally found the tool which I was seeking, made by Dapete, now just copy this line:
importScriptURI('http://toolserver.org/~dapete/ime/ime.js');
and paste it in User:Penyulap/common.js and save the page, then open File:Russian Orbital Segment.png (only Firefox and IE are supported) and you will see "ImageMapEdit >" just under the picture (clear cache if needed), then click on it, I know you will find out how to use it with a little fiddling with it (use both left and right click to define a new area) tell me if you need any help! -- Z 09:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
{{ Russian Orbital Segment}} I hope you enjoy it! You know, I have a lot of ideas about this project, based on your genius idea we even can make something like Google maps, it's a quite unique thing in the Wikipedia and I really would like to implement it soon, people can explore the station just like they do it with earth in Google maps, it would be a great thing, wait what I'm taking about, I came to talk about the image, I know there may be some errors in it, I've learned a bit about these subjects, but still can't fully understand the structure of even this component, so it is good to check it yourself. This was just a start, we can work on the station layout after that. -- Z 23:06, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
And the Image Map Editor, it is very easy to use -- click on that "ImageMapEdit >" in image's page, somethings would appear now, then click on "rectangle" so a new area would be created and now we should set a couple of coordinates: (1) the top left one, by left click and (2) the bottom right one, by right click. when the wrk is down, scroll down a bit and the generated code is there. -- Z 23:09, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Can't wait to spread this about through the other languages too ! Oh yeah, I LOVE this idea. Penyulap talk 00:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
here are some dodgy links and or labels, need lots of scrubbing up, but may show this or that or be of some use. -pen circle 620 582 20 [[Kurs|Kurs ship antenna]] circle 622 474 10 [[Kurs|Kurs ship antenna]] circle 617 350 10 [[Kurs|Kurs ship antenna]] circle 609 241 20 [[Kurs|Kurs ship antenna]] circle 629 764 20 [[Kurs|Kurs ship antenna]] circle 620 59 20 [[Kurs|Kurs ship antenna]] circle 972 637 15 [[Kurs|Kurs ship antenna]] circle 611 531 20 [[Kurs|Kurs station antenna]] circle 611 290 20 [[Kurs|Kurs station antenna]] circle 619 455 8 [[Kurs|Kurs station antenna]] circle 619 369 8 [[Kurs|Kurs station antenna]] circle 976 605 7 [[Kurs|Kurs station antenna]] poly 939 500 983 500 983 509 963 517 972 548 963 554 [[NASA space shuttle|mounting brackets for NASA space shuttle]] poly 967 572 930 585 941 594 989 594 972 582 [[NASA space shuttle|mounting brackets for NASA space shuttle]] poly 1040 592 1058 572 1084 589 1080 598 [[NASA space shuttle|mounting brackets for NASA space shuttle]] poly 1044 498 1083 500 1055 557 1049 548 1055 515 1041 512 [[NASA space shuttle|mounting brackets for NASA space shuttle]] poly 333 472 332 427 336 389 329 384 336 350 375 335 492 342 546 367 600 367 612 383 639 387 649 381 691 384 694 438 639 433 609 441 591 453 595 395 575 381 483 420 481 466 398 467 395 400 386 361 361 359 370 416 370 467 [[Zvezda SM|Zvezda Service module, life support, station's bridge with avionics(guidance navigation) propulsion, 2 crew quarters, kitchen.]] poly 396 469 372 469 370 413 393 413 395 443 383 443 376 449 383 457 393 458 390 398 370 398 362 372 386 372 [[Zvezda SM|Zvezda Service module, life support, station's bridge with avionics(guidance navigation) propulsion, 2 crew quarters, kitchen.]] circle 386 450 10 [[Zvezda SM|Window]] poly 302 376 329 386 329 342 305 341 [[Zvezda SM|antenna]] poly 486 467 517 460 591 453 589 398 514 432 486 435 483 452 [[Zvezda SM|Zvezda Service module, life support, station's bridge with avionics(guidance navigation) propulsion, 2 crew quarters, kitchen.]] poly 481 424 574 384 589 396 509 432 [[Solar array]] poly 847 375 887 467 955 438 916 347 [[Solar array]] poly 171 384 210 378 264 384 304 379 333 393 332 433 292 446 264 438 234 444 170 440 136 450 128 413 133 370 [[Progress spacecraft|Progress robot spacecraft]] poly 128 298 179 301 187 372 179 379 157 383 139 370 [[Solar array]] poly [[Solar array]] poly 151 453 173 444 197 450 211 518 162 521 [[Solar array]] poly 913 736 972 743 976 759 972 782 915 774 [[Solar array]] poly 1033 747 1030 782 1115 787 1109 745 [[Solar array]] poly 972 589 993 594 996 605 1040 602 1047 571 1041 537 1043 501 1052 489 1052 469 1032 449 989 447 969 472 972 495 983 511 973 524 [[Rassvet|Rassvet dock and mini science module]] poly 697 441 742 470 884 474 845 375 895 356 740 353 694 384 [[Zarya spacecraft|Zarya, first module, replaces Polyus, cargo bay, fuel storage, original propulsion, guidance and navigation.]] poly 890 469 955 467 984 443 1027 440 1040 427 1041 389 1006 392 992 390 986 370 959 364 966 356 922 355 955 438 955 441 [[Zarya spacecraft|Zarya, first module, replaces Polyus, cargo bay, fuel storage, original propulsion, guidance and navigation.]]
Is the auto-archive for Talk:Stop Online Piracy Act still working? The Talk page is now over 200k bytes, which is very long indeed. I see many discussions that are much older than five days, (as an example the Proposed Blackout section ended on Jan 19th) so that's why I thought things weren't working. 5 days is long enough, and I understand it's a popular and controversial topic, but I just wanted to make sure that Miszabot was working right. Please fix if not. Thanks, Jessemv ( talk) 17:24, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for kickstarting the great intro cleanup at Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement! I think some yummy dead fish is very well deserved. Sloggerbum ( talk) 01:08, 4 February 2012 (UTC) |
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You assuming there's an APAS mechanism on Zvevda
The Zarya and Zvezda ones would have slight mission-specific mods, Penyulap
(inserted text) Yep, your right there, one point to Craigboy :) Penyulap talk
You assuming there are "lots" of different versions of APAS and your "penyulap skills" telling you they are all pretty much compatible.
there are lots of different versions [of APAS], Penyulap
- There really is only three. Craigboy ( talk) 01:05, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Three is lots. besides, I'm sure there are other versions we don't know of offhand. Plus my penyulap skills tell me that the different versions are pretty much compatible, and we won't find it referenced either way, not easily. Penyulap 03:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- No Pen, these were the only three ever used. APAS-75 in no way would be able to dock with APAS-89, the petals are completely different, the diameters are different and the hooks don't line up. Not to mention the last APAS-75 docking was in 1975, and the first APAS-89 docking was in 1993. And there would be no reason for APAS-89/95 to be compatible with APAS-75 because it wasn't even in use after 1976. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Naa, Jury is still out on that one. There are lots more besides those, some with fancy names some only on paper, like for Buran. The pinouts for the connectors would use mission specific designations, pipes and tubes and stuff would vary (if there are any) according to mission. Penyulap talk
You assuming APAS-75 is compatible with APAS-89/95.
You could call it 'apas compatible' but every version of APAS is apas compatible Penyulap
- Only APAS-75 is not. Craigboy ( talk) 01:05, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oh I'm thinking it is myself. Wasn't that the one used on that whole Apollo-Soyuz (Or reversed in Russian, as Soyuz-Apolla, lol) mission thing. There was like one Russian designed APAS-75 on each craft and the whole thing went down smooth, without any embarassing moments in space where they found out that APAS-75 was not APAS compatible ? Penyulap 03:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) hey wait, your assuming I'm assuming 75 and 89 are compatible. I'm saying every one they make joins up to something, that's for a start. like the soyuz and the apollo ones. you know, no embarassing moments. but here...
(hey wow, I just saw how long this section is, WOW, this is amazing !) Umm, ok, compatible in the way there'd be fewer variations on the mechanical parts, so you could get one meant for one mission and slam it into another for some other mission, and they'd dock and hold, but the wiring wouldn't work. Like that, not all of them though, but fewer mechanical 'strike plate' variations than connector variations (electrical or liquid, gas options). Penyulap talk
You assuming that APAS mechanism was used in over 200 dockings when that's obviously not the case.
Two ways, One as a simple indicator that the APAS system is used for other things rather than just the shuttle. Recall if you will STS-135 was the last mission, so 200 dockings can't have been performed by the NASA shuttle even if every one of it's trips went to the ISS. It's a fair indication that there is more to the story. Instant indication that there is more to be researched. Two, as for the peacock term, I'd say 'many is understated' if after all many is the wrong word to describe 200 dockings, what would be said of the shuttle docking system ? it's seldom-used ? that wouldn't go down well with readers. I'm thinking whatever the shuttle uses has been used 'many times' and something that has been used more often than that can have a 'many' or something even better. Penyulap 02:47, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen its a bad source. The 200 dockings statement probably wasn't even meant to be about APAS, how could it be? Since APAS was mostly only used for the Shuttle program. The 200 dockings probably meant to be about the Probe/Drogue system. Many was only a peacock term for "...China, Europe and Russia have a co-operative relationship in many space exploration projects" because they have only done a few missions together. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Hey, I totally had a cite for that and everything, you know, the nice old man who died and all, if your going to try and tell me there are less than 200 dockings, you go get a cite, fair is fair. Penyulap talk
You assuming that Zarya forward is a usable docking port, you assuming a docking adapter could be built and launched in three months.
Sweet, but only if you find a proper ref that says they can't be uncovered, or new ones can't be sent in preparation for the Chinese visit, or new arrangements cannot be made in preparation for the Chinese visit. Then and only then the statement 'the Chinese could dock in future' would be incorrect. If the Chinese and the Europeans or the Chinese and the Russians especially wanted to do a Apollo-Soyuz historic handshake in space they could do it in 3 months prep time, but why bother ? there is no big rift to cross. They don't go boasting about what is possible they just get on with doing it, with small announcements of what they are about to do. Saying this and that is possible is not their style, for either of these superpowers. Penyulap 02:38, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- If the Zarya is disconnected from PMA-1, than it would no longer be the International Space Station. Russia uses different docking ports so they're not compatible like the source says. "Then and only then the statement 'the Chinese could dock in future' would be incorrect." No because it can dock with USOS. You would not be able to build and launch an adapter in three months. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Zarya forward IS a usable docking port, and it IS being used. Naturally if you want to dock a few chinese modules or craft to it, you'd want to jettison the USOS first. It's an alarming idea for sure, and would possibly come as a surprise to anyone in Kibo at the time (I don't think there is a button on the Zvezda console for it. I wonder if they could try to grab the ROS with a robot arm on the USOS before their air ran out?), but hey, jettisoning the USOS is an option that has been tossed about a number of times in end-of-mission planning. Plenty of times where NASA funding is looking less than stellar, they've considered abandoning the project, how many times has that happened ? Then the Russians think what options do we have ? They can either come up with a shiny new space station at short notice and limited budgets or they can keep on using the ROS, which is designed for refurbishment. (though I think it'd get just as ratty and dilapidated as MIR was eventually, but it'd do until they got something better on orbit)
3 months prep time IS enough, WHEN there is a burning need for it. Docking ports don't need to take forever to slap together, the Russians have done complete missions in short times like that, to celebrate past events I think. The Russians and Chinese are good friends. Flight time between the two countries is short, the engineers are known for working together well (Phobos) so arranging a different docking port on the shenzhou is not going to take a million years. Pack up a bit of equipment and Russian engineers, send em over with a kurs or two and whatever else is required and there you go.
THe whole 'the Chinese could dock in future' is a broad unqualified statement which is far too easy to make true. I suggested 3 months, they can take 10 years and it's still true. Penyulap talk
You defending information that has been verified as being incorrect and you showing strong bias
His highly reliable electromechanical systems, which included the Androgynous Peripheral Assembly System, the proper name of the docking system, in addition to onboard manipulators and reusable solar arrays, are among the jewels of the Russian space program.
His docking system was first tried out on unmanned spacecraft in 1967 or 1968, he told the publication Space News, then on two manned capsules in 1969. It successfully docked more than 200 missions and has never had a failure in space— [2]
- The source is inaccurate which is why you should avoid non-space flight publications. APAS-75 was the first APAS mechanism but it wasn't used until the 1974 (unmanned test for the Apollo-Soyuz mission). The manned mission your quote is mentioning Soyuz 4/ Soyuz 5, this used a very early version of the Russian Probe and Drogue (which Vladimir Syromyatnikov also worked on) that is used today. Craigboy ( talk) 00:58, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- There is nothing wrong with the source, it is clear the person has done more research into APAS and is a better source than if the front page of the NASA website itself said "APAS was used to dock the shuttle to the ISS". A well researched point made by some little person beats a misleading half-truth from the NASA website. Penyulap 02:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen are you serious? They got many basic things wrong (and the author is by no means an expert on the subject, but yet you take here word but not that of the engineers at Boeing). Your politcal ideolgies seem to be getting in the way of your objectivism. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I'm serious, Patricia is giving lots of leads and facts you can use to do further checking. Thats great. The Boeing 'engineers' as you call them, use the word 'clone' in a manner that defines the text book dictionary definition of 'unsubstantiated claim' it's an offhanded insult or a sloppy guess at best. Penyulap 06:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Biased? everyone is biased in some way, how do you mean ? which way ? I'm not saying the washington post or Patricia is particularly great, I'm just saying what craft is she referring to back in 67 and 68. I'm thinking there is a craft back then which uses an APAS docking system.
Where I think were on different pages is that you only want to recognize some of the APAS mechs as APAS mechs. APAS is like saying 'Bisexual' so 'Chris-75' and 'kim-89' are both bisexual, but they are not the only ones. There were bisexuals back in 67 and 68, 'Vlad' and 'boris' if you like. You can't just say there aren't 200 APAS because you can only find Chris and Kim, or only Chris and Kim are bi. Penyulap talk
You assuming Shenzhou can't be manually docked and a few other things.
It'll never happen, but that's the place [the Chinese] would [dock] if they could, because that's the place all the autodockings are made, and all the docking collars are proper. Anything the Americans are coming up with themselves, well, they'll be the only ones who use it nasa and it's commercial carriers that's all. Everyone else goes Russian. (well jaxa doesn't do dockings as yet). Penyulap 17:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- "Everyone else" is only ESA. JAXA has no intentions of docking to the station, if they did than the ISS partners would loose the large hatch diameter that berthing allows. The United States is responsible for transporting JAXA and ESA astronauts to the station since their modules are a portion of the USOS side, currently the United States is paying Russia for their transportation to the ISS. After Commercial Crew comes online, Soyuz will only be transporting Russian astronauts. Craigboy ( talk) 18:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) No I'm not, I'm saying the ROS is where the party is at, didn't you see that video I added to the external links, where they make Yuri look like he is dancing at a club somewhere even though he is made of cement, and are all butt slapping and so on ? The Americans can't stand the Chinese, they refuse, by law, to buy them a cheeseburger if they come and visit a NASA site, it's ILLEGAL to buy them a cheeseburger. (I wonder if fried rice is ok?, they might like that, or some Peking duck, yummmm Peking duck) Russia and China are good friends, Phobos, Chinese space program and so on. Where else would they possibly dock ? on the external platform of kibo and then come through the experiment airlock ? :)
Mark my words, if they do dock to the ISS, it'll be to the Russian segment. (marking my own words [X]) Penyulap talk
You assuming that the APAS family is much larger than it is
APAS is the root term for the entire family of Russian docking mechs, and the american and chinese and euro mechs which are all branches from that, afaik.
- No. The APAS family consists of APAS-75, 89 and 95. Although typically the term APAS is used to describe APAS-89/95 (APAS-75 is a very different, non-compatible mechanism). Americans used the APAS-95, these mechanisms were purchased from Energiya and integrated into the Shuttle's Orbital Docking System and onto the PMAs by Boeing.
You claiming there is a usable APAS mechanism on ROS, that Shenzhou isn't capable of being docked manually and that docking mechanisms can easily be converted to other types.
And what the americans are doing on their section is irrelevant. the APAS are Russian. not american. They are all over the station not just on the USOS. Penyulap
- There is one on ROS. It connects Zarya to Unity, and thus cannot be used for visting vehicles (nor has it ever). The only open APAS docking mechanisms are on PMA-2 and PMA-3, which are part of USOS. Craigboy ( talk) 18:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- No automated docking is possible at present on the USOS, so any supposed docking to that section will require new hardware to be sent up. Which means you can just as easily send up new hardware, such as slapping a new collar on the node module, Penyulap
(ins) It can be manually docked, no problem, but I am saying that just like everyone except NASA and JAXA, the chinese use autodocking first and manual as a backup. The ROS is equipped for autodock. USOS isnt'. Penyulap talk It doesn't matter that the USOS isn't equipped to allow autonomous docking if Shenzhou can be docked manually.-- Craigboy ( talk) 13:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
You assuming again that Shenzhou isn't capable of being docked manually.
OMG you're a total GENIUS, that whole "the rendezvous and docking project hardware is compatible with the International Space Station." - Jiang Guohua, a professor and chief engineer at the China Astronaut Research and Training Center in Beijing. is brilliant. Stick it in the article man ! I can't steal your thunder there, you've had that since march ? good thing you remember/mention it ! That is brilliant ! Especially since it's the first specific mention of the rendezvous system. Which suggests more than it reveals as to where the docking would occur, yes, because as far as I know, there is no (automatic) rendezvous system whatsoever on the USOS, it's strictly Russian. Penyulap 05:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
(ins) no I'm not, I am saying they don't fly by the seat of their pants, they take the russian "Ve have barkups fvor our barkups for our Oxillary redunentsee systems comorade" they demand high standards of safety. Penyulap talk
You're assuming that the Soyuz and Shenzhou are compatible.
The Chinese and Russian hardware is compatible for docking, making co-operation much easier (US hardware is not compatible, and auto-docking is unknown in US manned craft). Penyulap ( talk) 17:13, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
(ins) I think they just have to do a) the rendevouz and b) pinouts. Penyulap talk Expand on "pinouts".-- Craigboy ( talk) 13:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Adding a Christmas section to the ISS page
New section "Christmas on the International Space Station"
I've created a new section for the article, that appears at Christmas when such material is notable, and not at other times of the year, when people probably won't care. The section without it's heading is at Template:Christmas on the International Space Station and please do add, edit and so forth. Ignore the warnings you will see about references, when it goes into the article they show up normally if they are done in the usual way. Anyhow, it all works although I will no doubt improve it's technical implementation, and might get help from others too. Or just go ahead and delete the lot if you feel the urge to ! whatever. Temporarily there is a way to view it on my talkpage ISS workspace, but I'll copy it out of there soon if it looks like a good idea, to aid in editing. Penyulap 07:39, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- woops, it's gone live sooner than I thought, thanks to technical help, and another take on which days are good, I'd better spruce it up, it was just example stuff really. Any comments on this section? Penyulap 10:56, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Going on a tangent about hats
Sorry, I apologize, I missed the word 'hard' on the first read. Didn't mean to twist your words. Anyhow, they're not hard hats that they are actually wearing in that picture. (I mean I can't get over your totally disputing the photographic evidence, I mean, this is not one of my own pictures I made, I'm not THAT good with GIMP, it's from NASA I think, just look it up) anyhow they are not hard hats, they are yellow hats. They can't have got onto the station without being 100% Mission control approved I'm sure. If I can get a ref saying they aren't hard hats, they are just yellow hats, can I have your support for the picture, and should I get a ref saying they wear hats on the ISS, you know, aside from this photo ? Also, I'm pretty darn sure the 'reason' has to be something to do with 'policy' or, to make it easy, any essay more than 3 days old will do too, probably. Wait, is it the caption ? I don't think I said anything about 'hard' hats, I do think I mentioned the commanders mustache though. How about I review the description so it doesn't mention hard in relation to hats. Penyulap 18:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen, I didn't say it was photoshopped. Re-read my original comment ("Crew members do not wear hard hats on the ISS (except for when they were posing for this picture)"). I don't know what you mean by "yellow hats" (and don't tell me they're hats that are yellow). They're clearly hard hats, and they're most likely wearing them to make it a humorous photo. Craigboy ( talk) 12:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm looking at the article right now and I'm seeing 5 hats across 2 photos. (Because the Christmas template is showing). There are plenty more hats here and if it is included that's going to make 10 hats in the article, I'm thinking some different colors would be nice, I mean they are all red hats, with white trim and a bit of green, I'd love a picture with some yellow hats to balance the article a bit. Penyulap 12:18, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen you're hard enough to follow as it is so can you please keep the jokes to a minimum. Craigboy ( talk) 12:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Well how about start making sense ? I mean what's "Image is inaccurate" or "Crew members do not wear hard hats on the ISS" all about ? oh come on, I am asking serious questions here, and what am I getting in return ? Penyulap 13:06, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Ahh my hats my hats, my precious hats. I'm trying to convey the humor they have on the ISS, there is a lot of it. Russians are quite nuts for it. I mean how about this for an official government Mars500 website picture ? There is humor on all sides, but mostly on the American and Russian sides I can find it. We need more JAXA and Canadian humor ! Penyulap talk 10:36, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I think there are some really cool things too, some things that seemed 'strange' at the time, but now are like the norm. Do you remember when people used to argue with me about the lede ? and how frustrated I got when they refused under all circumstances to discuss content, preferring to just revert everything ? Actually I think you would remember because you got hit by the shrapnel too, remember ?
From the time when I did my first edit till now, wow, what a difference we have made eh ?
Remember when people used to argue with me over how many space station projects there were ? now look at the Origins section, you can just read it. And even though I wrote it, I don't agree with Columbus being a space station, I wrote it the way I figured people would like it, whereas for the record, Columbus was nothing but an on-paper diplomatic bargaining tool, not a space station project. But it's too 'out there' to explain the difference to people, so I just keep the concepts nice and approachable. The other self criticism of that section is I haven't bothered to include Canada, but who cares ? maybe later on I'll add a good read.
The table of contents is nicer now, logical, and I love the feel of the article, more dramatic. I think we've done a fantastic job, but it's only just begun, there is so very much to do, the article is still a pile of crap. I have the special penyulap ability to just turn up the critique and see all the problems. Pick a section and I'll tell you lots and lots of things that are wrong with it. On the other hand, I can just turn it down too, and the article is lovely, or I can move across time and tell you why it will suck and where and how soon. And stability, I can pick and see where the hits will be, and why they occur, and head them off too. Omg, remember 'assembled' ? It's a dirty dirty word eh ? lolz. Penyulap talk 11:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
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Almost done, its easy parts though, lol (I can't fully understand this image which is my source). That tool which I previously told you is a bit buggy so I'm using this one. Also ROS is in a good shape now ( sample). Don't worry if you don't like it's design, that's easy to change (I've created some here). -- Z 17:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh and about User talk:Penyulap/Fleet workspace, that's not possible and also using bot is not a good way for several reasons (many wikis even don't have interwiki bots. Mainly because BRFA process can be a headache) so I think the best way is doing it manually (you can put that table in a template so it would be easier to maintain and update across different wikis). -- Z 17:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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The Chinese may intend to have an airlock in the Core Module or on one of the Laboratory modules. In regards to the accuracy of the image hosted on their English page, the Shenzhou spacecraft aren't shown with solar panels, the Luch-like antenna is shown being used as a RMS and the station looks nothing like any of the descriptions or images released these passed few years. Not sure if this was ever even a design because it looks like something a graphical artist tossed together.
What program are you using to to make the image? I recommend using these images as reference. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Image 4. Although for some reason in those images no docking mechanisms are depicted, so I recommend using this image as a reference for the docking mechs.-- Craigboy ( talk) 08:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
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I'm using a variety of art software, did you have some data files that may help ? The image I want to make next for the CSS is going to show the modules, and I guess that has the added advantage of having component images for the mod articles themselves. Although the twin science ROS mods have me itching to make an anim of them dumping the last stage of the proton and unfolding their panels, I think that'd be so cool, and a fast explanation to do as an image rather than text. P
That first image you link to is brilliant, I hadn't come across that one, I like it as it is on their site. I don't like the ray tracing stuff, I prefer real textures from real images though, which is what I'll do. Also I might add some nondescript minor furniture, which is always the difference between raytracing and final photos of the real thing. The CCM looks like it has two parts, like a NM is separate from it. P
re the dm, I don't think I'll get into that much detail, it's just an impression, I don't think anyone will use wikipedia pics to build their own space station :) I was going to pretty much copyclone the Zvezda pics for the NM end of the mod, and the NM article too. I was wanting to ask you first about the NM as I want to get the mechs right, and I figure you can point me to some pics of the mechs they will use on the NM, or just to match them up by telling me which places on which mods have the same ones. It'd help that little extra with the accuracy. I think you're the undisputed (well, sometimes disputed :) sorry) expert on docking mechs. P
Thanks for the kind words! However, space science is not really my knowledge area so I think I can contribute more effectively to Wikipedia in other areas. Acadēmica Orientālis ( talk) 08:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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Yep, that was a mistake and that's why I've often said I'm not much of an article writer as I make too many silly mistakes like that. To have a reasonable chance of not making mistakes like that I'd probably have to read over something at least a couple of times several hours apart and wikipedia, by it's nature, makes that difficult. Dpmuk ( talk) 05:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I will happily admit I don't enjoy that bit much. The bit I do find rewarding and sometimes enjoyable is investigating a complex case only to find we don't have a problem, for example when they copied from us. I enjoy the challenge of proving this and it's also nice to have worked out that we can keep an article. Unfortunately taking the rough with the smooth comes with the "job". Dpmuk ( talk) 06:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I'm not sure what this edit summary meant. Your "bot" created a new template and said it was "updating" something. Also, did you pass it through the bot approval group? Killiondude ( talk) 08:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
and I'm sure that you meant well in this edit, but unless you had this particular editor's permission, there was no need to correct their spelling in a talkpage post. If you did have permission, then that's all cool. Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 13:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I just wanted to tell you about the fact that there is a project under way to build a sort of Commons but instead of pictures it would be for data which could be used in a similar way that pictures are now. From what I understand tables will be one of the first things that can be uploaded. link:). Thanks for the note BTW -- U5K0'sTalkMake WikiLove not WikiWar 10:04, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems the category does exist. I don't spend much time on my user page. I would rather invest it in other areas of WP, but others can see that I am a tradesman now.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 05:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
your objections in the Rfc on Mohamed Images is not valid... you keep asking for clarification between calligraphy and figurative images---figurative images is used in the RfC to describe images of a person depicting Mohamed. So you are asking for what is already there.--- Balloonman Poppa Balloon 20:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello. Your signature in the Russian WP contains interwiki. Put a colon before the language code ( 1).
Make do so in all language sections, where you have a so signature. Thank you. Sorry for my english.-- 178.123.139.182 ( talk) 00:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok Penyulap, thanks for the reply. Well I tried to design the Infobox on the Talk page of Wikiproject Space flight but it does'nt appear. A set of things that I suggest are already as a table in Article:Poisk(ISS Module). But I found that there are Infoboxes for a few Mir Modules like Kvant-1,etc. But these infoboxes are not there for Kvant-2. Zvedza ISS Module has an Infobox for a space station.
Orbital tug means not only the name. It means size, weight, Deorbit Date and other things. So with a module which has a Orbital tug it should be like this(eg : Poisk) Orbital tug= Progress M-MIM2(Progress M-SO2 Orbital tug weight=7,102 kg(I don't know if it is Orbital tug+Poisk) Orbital tug type=Progress M modified Orbital tug decay date= 8 dec 2009
I just got angry after no reply for three days so that is why I just Blurted out the situation .But again thanks for the reply. -- Monareal ( talk) 10:19, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I stopped that downlink Succsessor. Ok But mir modules?They are in a mess.I left a Question about it on a thing called Teahouse in Wikipedia.This teahouse is for asking questions about Wikipedia. Here is the answer I got: I think the simple answer to your question is there are different ways of presenting the same information and the various editors who have compiled these articles about Mir and its modules have gone about it in different ways. One of the ones without an infobox, for example Kvant-2, may look better with an infobox or it may not. The only way to find out is to try, if you don't like the result you can undo your edit. If you like the result leave it, the worst that can happen is that somebody else doesn't like it and undoes what you did. If that happens, don't get upset or angry but ask them why they think the other way is better and see if you can find common ground between you. NtheP ( talk) 07:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)You see Kelphin and I never thought that!
Ok, another user left a comment saying there was a infobox for it in wikiproject spaceflight under the section . But I did'nt like it . Moreover , It is not used for ISS modules. I gave him a message. I think WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT MIR MODULES FIRST. You too can be a guest at teahouse. Mir modules should be also thought about. Making infoboxes in the belief that the mir module infoboxes are to be ignored is not a good idea. Somebody may delete our infoboxes telling the Mir module infoboxes are there. Thinking about the other space module infobox is also another Compolsory thing. I will give you the comment he made there: There's one already: Template:Space station module. User: SalopianJames 20:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Sent the reply to my talk page-- Monareal ( talk) 11:16, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
-- Monareal ( talk) 11:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC) Reply to me before 13:09 UTC-- Monareal ( talk) 11:45, 30 March 2012 (UTC) Ok then 23:59 UTC is enough.Now here the time is 18:08 -- Monareal ( talk) 12:38, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Indian Standard Time you know running 05:30 hours more than GMT.-- Monareal ( talk) 12:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok then, Good Night for you!-- Monareal ( talk) 12:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap It is a disaster!-- Monareal ( talk) 13:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap look at this my conversation between SapianJames and me: '''''''I like a new one. Morover it is not Used in ISS Modules.--Monareal (talk) 05:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC) Don't make a new one, improve the current one! If it's not used where it should be, insert it! There's no need for pointless duplication... SalopianJames (talk) 07:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)''' !-- Monareal ( talk) 13:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Saturday 30 March(MNB): It has been Double Chaos for User:Monareal as his attempt to secure a Infobox for ISS Modules is at a dead move. He was given a reply by an user( User:SalopianJames) that there was an infobox and instead of making duplicacates , modifi=y the existing. All his plans are foiled. Monareal News Board News-- Monareal ( talk) 15:54, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
HAPPY DEATH ANIVERSERY!NYAN ETU KETU CHATTU!DAIVAME!
CHATTA PATIKAL VANNE ENNE KONNNU! EMAIL:Ronie4th@gmail.com or CHAATTA PATICAL@ GMAIL.COM
Penyulap ☏ 10:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
WRITTEN IN MANGLISH:English+Malayalam
Seri,Eni Mir Osman Ali Khanugute Chaganam.Ayyo Parayan maranopoyi! Etum MANGLISHA!O seri! Se! Chatta Pattikal Kollan ene varomo -- Monareal ( talk) 11:28, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
You Know what is malayalam?-- Monareal ( talk) 11:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Excuse Me,I know you are a Wikidragon but are you a Human?-- Monareal ( talk) 11:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I am human, I don't know many India-area languages, I'm not too familiar with Malayalam. Penyulap ☏ 11:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap Emergency messages are under ISS Modules Infobox!-- Monareal ( talk) 14:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap send your messages to one page. I can't search Each and every page for your messages.-- Monareal ( talk) 03:47, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I know about watchlists. I use them too.-- Monareal ( talk) 09:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
HAPPY DEATH ANIVERSERY!ORO PATTIKAL ENE PINNEYUM KONNU. AIYOO ATE ETU POTTAN.UN READY.PAPPADAM READY.KADALA READY.GOAT READY. MEALS READY.ETUM MANGLISHA!-- Monareal ( talk) 09:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I did not understand.-- Monareal ( talk) 10:49, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Stop before calling James,see what is up.-- Monareal ( talk) 11:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
A smile for you
You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.7.109 ( talk) 22:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC) |
Monareal News service info: Ok I agree not to duplicate but I will have to fully reorganise it.That means I should completly format and add our suggestions. I don't know if James would like it. |
Monareal News service info: Ok THE CHANGES ARE THAT, I WILL COMPELTLY DELETE THE ENTIRE INFO IN IT NOW AND THEN WRITE MY INFO INSIDE IT. |
Ok dr Penyulap here is it
-- Monareal ( talk) 07:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Old one
| module = Example Station
| module_image = Example.png
| module_image_size =
| module_image_caption = This is the first example caption.
| NSSDC_ID = 2000-000A
| station = EXPL-01
| launch = January 1, 2000
| launch_vehicle =
Proton rocket
| docked = January 10, 2000
| undocked = December 1, 2010
| reentry = December 31, 2010
| mass = 200,000.0 kg
(440,924.5 lb)
| length = 70 m
(229.7 ft)
| width = 60 m
(196.9 ft)
| height = 50 m
(164.0 ft)
| diameter = 55 m
(180.4 ft)
| volume = 600 m³
(21,188.8 ft³)
| stats_ref =
[1]
| configuration_image = Example.png
| configuration_size = 175px
| configuration_caption = This is the second example caption.
New one | Name = Example Station
| Image =
| Mission = Example 1 space station | Nation = Example Nation(eg:Uzbekisthan) | Organization = Example Organisation | Contrator = Example Contractor(eg:RKK Energia) | header = launch | launch date = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM:UTC | Carrier rocket = Example rocket | | launch site = Launch Pad 1, Example site, Example country | header = Pre-Docking period | free flight period = 11 days | free flight altittude = 1391 km | Pre-Docking operations = Example operation,sample operation | cargo carried = 1001 kg(1.001tons) | Regime = LEO | Inclination = 51.7° | header = Docking | Docking port = Example Zenith | Docking time = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM:UTC | header = Specifications | Designation = EZ155JK | Launch mass = 1200 kg(module),2811 kg(cargo)Total=4011 kg | Maximum hull diameter = 1.91m | Hull length between docking assembly planes = 3.00125m | Pressurized volume = 4.7009cu m | habitatable volume = 3.99099 cu m | Number of egress hatches (open inward) = 1 | Egress hatch diameter = 1.2m | Mass of delivered cargoes = up to 1296 kg | Depressurization alarms = 0 | False deprussurization alarms = 0 | Accidents = 0 | header = Orbital tug | name = example name | manufaterer = Example manufaterer | nation = Example nation | organization = example organization | Undocking date = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM | Decay date = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM | header = undocking and reentry | undocking date = DD/MM/YY HH/MM | reentry tug = example tug | post-docking free flight = 2 days | decay date = DD/MM/YY HH/MM | fragments' landing site = example region, ocean, country, plateau ,desert ,etc }}
How is that?-- Monareal ( talk) 07:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Monareal News service info:Your are free to do anything with it and send the newly edited thing to my talkpage. |
Penyulap I did not understand what you did to theSpacestation Workspace-- Monareal ( talk) 08:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Ozmec News: Uh I don't understand what you did to the Space station workspace--
Monareal (
talk)
09:14, 31 March 2012 (UTC)Coutresy:Monareal News Board. |
The Special Barnstar | |
Thanks for helping me with the infoboxes. But I did not understand what you did in the workspace where I put my idea.It looks confusing. Monareal ( talk) 09:39, 31 March 2012 (UTC) |
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I am working on a new picture, I did some of the work needed, there is a list of new things on the template, the list of suggestions you made for new things, I have formatted the first few things of that list into the template language, if you have time, you can format the rest of the list, just follow what I did in my last edit to the page, repeat the same as my last edit where i converted two items, changing two into template text, removing them from the list of your 'homework' and adding them to the completed list. Penyulap ☏ 10:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Where have you formatted it into template language?-- Monareal ( talk) 10:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Tommorow I'd be spending the entire evening with the relative who will come from Hyderabad.I won't be active during te morning. By the way, if you have free time, can you do the remaining work? I'd sometimes only be active at night.If you finish the work tommorow,send a message to me saying it is done. Then I could know it is done. If it is incomplete,send a message to me saying it is not complete.If it is completed by tommorow,we can show it to Wikiproject Spaceflight on the 2nd of April-- Monareal ( talk) 11:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sarah, I have had a look, and like it, but the time resources outlined are quite steep for me. Penyulap ☏ 00:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap did you forget about the template?I too say time is running out. The last date is 6 April(I made it the last date.)-- Monareal ( talk) 04:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Huh?Writing manually? No templates?Did not understand what ya said.Were you writing automatically?Plan:Do the stuff and show it to me by tommorow?-- Monareal ( talk) 04:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm the teacher, you're the student, I'm not the one who does the homework, stop confusing me. Penyulap ☏ 08:40, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
You're chinese?-- Monareal ( talk) 05:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC) Penyulap, I think you know this. How to create User Suppages.-- Monareal ( talk) 05:11, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
To make a subpage search for User:Monareal/name of the new subpage and then follow the instructions. All this talk about my Chinese has made me hungry. Penyulap ☏ 06:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Dr Chinise Food, I ask your nationality.-- Monareal ( talk) 06:36, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Then you are... going to abandon the infobox?Then it will be..............
HAPPY DEATH ANIVERSERY!NYAN CHATTU!-- Monareal ( talk) 08:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap,
I have sent you a personal e-mail expalining why I revoked your changes - the e-mail contains information that I would prefer not to make public. Martinvl ( talk) 07:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Can I tell you one thing?I just don't know what the hell have you done in the workspace. It looks mad. Reply on my talk page.-- Monareal ( talk) 08:43, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict times 2)
I am in a ditch. Well, Barbosa ate the Barbarians who were about 1209 tons.1209 of them. These were on the menu
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Monareal ( talk • contribs) 08:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Never eat es cago!Never!Why?I recieved a warning with a picture let me see the picture. Oh my god!Is'nt that made of snails!Monareal Cartoon Dhamaka!-- Monareal ( talk) 09:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't know what the hell is this template language. Think I need Help from WD Graham. He's much experienced wikipedian. He has been on wikipedia for seven years.-- Monareal ( talk) 09:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
D'aww. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Answer the title-- Monareal ( talk) 06:07, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Did'nt Understand the thing but made a plan:You format it into template language. I'll make an microsoft Excel file which'll contain info about the modules. If you finish it tell a message.I'll send a message when I finsh my work. If you want, call other Wikiproject Spaceflight members to cooperate. Hurry, the last date is 6th April-- Monareal ( talk) 07:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
You just do what I say.Which article are you talking about?-- Monareal ( talk) 07:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I want to know which article.-- Monareal ( talk) 09:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I did half of that. The rest I'll do it later. Anyway ,do this for the Space Station Module Infobox:You format it into template language. I'll make an microsoft Excel file which'll contain info about the modules. If you finish it tell a message.I'll send a message when I finsh my work. If you want, call other Wikiproject Spaceflight members to cooperate. Hurry, the last date is 6th April-- Monareal ( talk) 10:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I've reverted a couple of edits to User talk:Penyulap/M3 Project workspace because they broke the ISS talk page. I would recommend that you create a new workspace, as that page is transcluded into a couple of old discussions, and re-purposing it will cause problems there. -- W. D. Graham 11:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
You destroyed it?-- Monareal ( talk) 05:26, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
What are you saying?And what happened to the M3 Project Workspace? Show me the page where you found the error message and everything else. What a terrible bloodbath!-- Monareal ( talk) 06:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your message. What I was referencing (with canvassing) was a practice that happens on Featured Picture Candidates (FPC) from time to time, where someone will nominate an image and then post somewhere else for all their friends to go support it. What this results in is a whole bunch of people supporting the picture, not because they reviewed it and found it to meet all the criteria, but because they have a vested non-neutral interest in promoting it. It's kind of like if you were electing a town mayor, and the next town over decided to all come vote for the guy nobody in your town liked, but because there were more people in the next town, they railroaded him on you anyways. For some reason, canvassing seems to be more common for picture candidates from certain geographical areas, the Middle East being one of those. So any time we see a whole bunch of new voters coming in to vote on only one image (one that usually does not meet all the criteria), it raises red flags. The reason for my comment about canvassing was that we had an influx of new voters on this picture. New voters aren't bad (I was a new voter once, too), but when they come, vote to promote one picture, and then leave, they're not being helpful.
On another note, I'd encourage you to stick around FPC. You bring a slightly different perspective, and once you brush up on the criteria and get an idea of what the quality level we're looking for is, I think you could make some valuable contributions. We haven't had any new regular voters in a while.
Clegs ( talk) 08:48, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Would this make a nice userbox?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 22:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I expect parts of it would, small details are hard to see sometimes. I have technical difficulty extracting frames from oggs at the moment, but no trouble extracting from mp4's. Did you do the rendering and so forth ? That is impressive work. Penyulap ☏
Thank you. I built the whole thing from scratch in Second Life using open source vehicle scripts. I just rode it around and filmed myself. I was thinking of including a wikilink to the video inside the userbox. They can play the tiny version, or link to the full size.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 00:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
You can ride through your userbox over and over again until Christmas, with the countdown in the background, I can do that easy. Like "Santa doesn't stop for another 177 days" and then on Christmas he can stop, or stop and go in loops or whatever. Penyulap ☏
I used Machinima. Here is a better one I did:
If I change the song, it may pass copyright issues.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 01:13, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I uploaded it to wikipedia. 1024x708 or I could just log into SL, and take some screen shots of it?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 21:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
(removed video, it doesn't seem to work properly, I will process the youtube version as an example)
File:Anim for Canoe1967.gif | This user made an Animation of a train |
Very good work. Is this one more accurate though?
File:Anim for Canoe1967.gif | This user made a CGI video of a train using Machinima. |
-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 04:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Here is the 2MB version, the reason it is still so large is the high framerate, and the nature of the shots, where the background moves. If the background (and camera) was still in each shot as the train moved, it'd be much smaller. also, the framerate could be reduced, I'm not sure how fast (smooth) you'd like it, it's at 100ms per frame in this version.
I think there are too many wheels running over the camera in this version, it makes no real difference to the size of the file though. The long trip across the bridge sucks a lot of bytes, it could be say 2x faster ? or shorter ? Penyulap ☏ 12:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Would it look too choppy if you just used the sections in close detail? You may have to fade frames then. Another plan would be to just use the best section and only a few seconds? I put the link to the full size video in the gif page if they want to see more. Less frames and normal speed may be best for the userbox, and we could even put a link to the main video in the user box?
Smooth and shorter is fine with me if that is what you mean. I have to go for 1-2 hours, so I will let you work on it.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 19:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I tried the ogg link-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 19:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I ask you one thing:Why can't you use Electric engines other than steam engines?-- Monareal ( talk) 07:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
We may have a bad plan here. My sys seems to slow and howl every time I load a page with the userbox that plays the full video url in thumb size. Am I imagining this?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 08:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Find a 7 year old computer that has never had the dust cleaned from the fans like mine? It gives me an excuse to buy a smoke filled one. Computers run on smoke. When all the smoke comes out of all the holes, you need a new one.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 09:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
My comp has not much problems although it is 9 years old. I work on wikipedia by another laptop-- Monareal ( talk) 06:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Isn't there issues with vacuum cleaners generating static? I have thought about ubuntu. With the live cd, do I just set to boot from cd, and will it run all my windows programs?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 16:47, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking of the static built up while the vacuum is running, caused by the friction of two insulators (dust and plastic hose). I have seen industrial vacuum system sparks jump over an inch every few seconds when running. Would I need to get ubuntu versions of all my XP programs then? Some I paid for and all my install CDs disappeared one cleanup day. Would I have to boot with windows to run those or buy new ones? My computer has a 'press any key to boot from CD' on a timer now, and I know how to access the BIOS to change boot order etc.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 17:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey Penyulap, thanks for letting me know about the new template and bot. I've already applied them to the Genesis I and II articles, in an interesting way (epoch date in the citation, which I think works tremendously well, save for the date formatting). I noticed, though, that the bot hasn't updated statistics for those articles in a couple of days...problem? — Huntster ( t @ c) 05:35, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Show me the page!-- Monareal ( talk) 10:16, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Where?-- Monareal ( talk) 14:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC) this space
Thank you for the image. If you have any other images, particularly images which might say "Christian" in some way without indicating any particular branch of Christianity, like maybe her with halo and wings, or maybe with specific individual denominational indicators, like maybe dressed as a Catholic or Orthodox nun, any such images as those would be welcome as well. I'm hoping to have some sort of "vote" next month for the Wikipe-tan to be used by the parent Christianity project, but that vote would largely be for the purposes of getting people actually involved in the project more than anything else. I very much imagine multiple images of various sorts, for all the multiple kinds of Christianity, would not only be welcome but probably rather significantly used. Thanks again. John Carter ( talk) 22:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi! I just discovered that I'm a WikiPrincess and I would love to give my opinion on your edits if you are still considered a WikiDragon. I'm friendly and just want to contribute my opinion on wikipedia. :) Thepoodlechef ( talk) 04:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Where have you left the note?-- Monareal ( talk) 08:00, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
EDA!Evide ada at ezuthiyirikunathe!--
Monareal (
talk)
08:01, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Your Highness of the the throne of Faulkland Kingdom, King of Britain, Crown Prince to the Sultan of Turkey, King Of New Spain, Emperor of the third french Empire, President of the Salute Republic of Kazakhistan, , President of the Republic of Uzbekistan ,Gen of Uzbekh National Army, Dr Sir Penyulap VIII George VII Al Baz I Santos Manros Marinos IV Napoleon IV Hased John Lord Alfech, Wellington I ask your Honour that you shall complete all the infobox work by tommorow,Sir.-- Monareal ( talk) 15:20, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
I think one thing is left:Format it into template language-- Monareal ( talk) 04:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't do graphics. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 18:03, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
This user no longer requires hardware to login to the WikiMatrix.(can be customized) |
I just made another userbox, I had no idea about this until an hour before it was finished. What do you think ? To add the userbox to your userpage, you cut and paste this text to your userpage
{{User:Penyulap/UBX/PenMatrixLogin}} Penyulap ☏ 08:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi there Penyulap. Regarding PALZ9000's updating of the ISSIB template, could you please use a more informative edit summary than "Nothing to see here) move along please (nothing to see". Thanks, - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 14:51, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap, would it be possible for the bot to add a comma between day and year to the access1 and access4 parameters for proper MDY formatting? — Huntster ( t @ c) 21:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
You!!!!!!Did you forget about the infobox?Hurry up!It is going into shambles! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monareal ( talk • contribs) 12:05, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Edo!Chinese ezutate vellavum cheye!-- Monareal ( talk) 17:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Edo! Pani cheye!-- Monareal ( talk) 11:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC) De avande kutti adichu potichu.
Monareal News service info: A 8.6 earthquake strikes Banda Aceh, Indonesia. 28 countries have been given tsunami warning. By now, the tsunami warning has been reduced to an alert. An 6.5 magnitude aftershock is felt in southeast India and Banda Aceh. On 4:16 IST another aftershock happened in India. I did not feel any of the tremors, including the main one. It is reported to have been felt in India. |
I've never been on my laptop during any of these earthquakes.-- Monareal ( talk) 11:41, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Post it on the main page--
Monareal (
talk)
11:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
-- Monareal ( talk) 12:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Another Tsunami alert after another 8.5 strikes Banda Aceh
What lesson? You should know how people survived there. That time(2004) I was just smaller than a poonch. Anyway we are in Thiruvananthapuram, IND which is about 1900km away from the main epicentre. The tsunami warning has been extended for 2-3 hours. It is almost 6 here. We are about 6 km from the coast. Electric power is lost in Banda Aceh-- Monareal ( talk) 12:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
You did'nt respond to this: That time(2004) 'I was just smaller than a poonch. Anyway we are in Thiruvananthapuram, IND which is about 1900km away from the main epicentre. The tsunami warning has been extended for 2-3 hours. It is almost 6 here. We are about 6 km from the coast.' Anyway, eyewitnesses in Aceh Province quote that waves have gone about 10 metres from the coast. Our Chief Minister Oommen Chandy says there is no need for people to worry but he and a few other district collectors have required people to stay in office for 24 hours. Currently, the tsunami alert is 99.9% lifted. -- Monareal ( talk) 12:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
The People of the Indian Coast (I had not) , Coastal People's Republic of China, Malayasia, Singapore had felt Earthquakes already in (about) 2 o clock IST and 4:16 o Clock IST. Anyway no tsunami waves reached Aceh or anywhere else in Sumatra or Indonesia and its neighbours-- Monareal ( talk) 12:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
The Laughing Nutter | |
…you're one of the most stubborn people here on wiki (welcome to the club, /o\ :) and i actually enjoyed ← great monstruosity reading some of your *humorous* comments at WT:WPWPA . I thought of paying you in cupcakes but then your talkpage would have been littered ^^ so here's a nutty laughpoint. Strive! benzband ( talk) 18:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you, and do please feel free to trash my page, please be a slave to your whims with no regard for order. Penyulap ☏
…so here's some Bento!™ | |
Because people keep giving you indigestible cookies and the likes :P and we can't have our fellow 'pedians starving. Let me share this with you… OOPS, DINNERTIME, gotta GO! (i've got some little red gnomes on the fire) benzband ( talk) 15:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC) |
King Sir Lord Earl Dr Lt Gn Col Penylap VIII Please finish the work in the infobox. I no student and you no teacher.
Mach Keto?-- Monareal ( talk) 12:13, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I no Kidding and you no work. Just finish off the work without kidding or bidding. No time for jokes-- Monareal ( talk) 12:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
....and another 5.3 aftershock off Sumatra. Penyulap ☏
Just***********And do the work-- Monareal ( talk) 17:18, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Just ******************** and finish the infobox. And finish that by 17 April 2012. I dont know what to do with that. That is why I ask you to finish it-- Monareal ( talk) 11:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
You know User:Monareal/spacestationworkspace?And I have 30099897786762665tons of work in wikipedia along with 52625622222222222222222222222222222222222222533333333333333333333332653726826374368756348753638tons to do personally?-- Monareal ( talk) 11:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
In honor of Fahd of Saudi Arabia ,President Anwar El Sadat and Mir Mahboob Ali khan of Hyderabad State | You have been presented the 1st Arabian Special Award for April 14 2012 for your respectable, notable and needed work in wikipedia in the Imaginary Venue of Cairo International Stadium, Cairo. Monareal ( talk) 11:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC) |
And I here was thinking these:
Whom to give this award tommorow(April 15 2012)
Username | Contributions | Your Choice | |
---|---|---|---|
User:WDGraham | 42(from April 9) | ||
User:POISK-300 | 4(from 2011)(I mean he knows to do edits well) |
And visit this: User:Monareal/Progress Workspace 1Make your comments-- Monareal ( talk) 13:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
well, I think you could make POISK-300 a bit funnier really, as he hasn't done much. You are rather funny, so I see no reason why you can't improve him. Penyulap ☏
And now he has done more than 10-- Al Sheik!Woiu! ( talk) 18:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Your signature seems to be lacking timestamps. This creates a problem because archive bots look for timestamps in signatures to know when a thread should be archived as well as just helping readers when viewing a discussion in general. Please make the appropriate fixes. Thank you. Killiondude ( talk) 05:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
And Dr Penyulap, Never forget User:Monareal/spacestationworkspace.-- Al Sheik!Woiu!I do not fish! ( talk) 05:32, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok Mir Osman Ali Khan, but you Oh Asaf Jah VII, the Nizam who lost his throne towards the Indian Union shall be understood that the workspace data can be SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT from the DRA I drafted away the PT , AB and MNO. If you did'nt understand the data I put in a box on that page, Ok?-- Al Sheik!Woiu!I do not fish! ( talk) 05:30, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Template:Rtnews has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Dirk Beetstra T C 05:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah and to see that click this link Mir Almaat Wikipedia Station 1 -- Mir Almaat 1 S1 (previously Monareal) ( talk) 08:01, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
You are invited for discussion for the proposed Wikiproject ISS. The discussion page is this page |
Not all comments added to a discussion need an added indent -- users actually only add one indent to the comment they're replying to. See Wikipedia:Indent. I'm mentioning this because of these: [4] [5]. Don't edit other people's comments, including the way they've chosen to indent them. There's usually a reason they chose their particular indents, and even if it seems they made a mistake, it's not a good idea to try and correct them as you see fit. Just leave them alone. Thanks. Equazcion (talk) 08:02, 24 Apr 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap, I see that you have not reacted to ANY of only MY messages to you. Please reply to this Now visit User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/spacestationworkspace. —Preceding undated comment added 12:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC).
could all be dumped, and you could consider including mission, like "docking module" "laboratory" some modules have both, so there'd also be "main engines" "bridge" "cargo bay" "fuel storage", things like that for other modules. It looks quite flexible which is great as well, so it can adapt to the other modules as well. It's good work. Penyulap ☏ 12:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I've added main engines and a few other things I thought would be useful. I did not remove accidents and depressurization alarms although I removed a couple of things. I did not add bridge, laboratory, cargo bay and fuel storage as none of those is mentioned in the Poisk article. I've darkened the background of headers as they look too light.--
RDF Energia
(talk:Nordak Island Communication Station)
05:31, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I've proposed for wikiproject ISS too.-- RDF Energia (talk:Nordak Island Communication Station) 07:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
You have not told anything.-- RDF Energia (talk:Nordak Island Communication Station) 05:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
That's not what I mean about engines, I mean different modules have different missions, for this one, it would be like this:
By all means include what you like, I just foresee that it would be a target of criticism as it is a parameter that does not vary a great deal from one module to the next, so it's not the kind of thing to have in the infobox, same with accidents as there have been no accidents on any module. Penyulap ☏ 07:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Do all your edits and put the infobox on User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/Infobox Workspace 2 Buuu hu ! Hu!Huu!Buuaho!Ahu!Buuu!Huhu!
Buuuuuuuuuuu!Hu Hu!-- DSRAB Yo Man ☏ 12:18, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Don;t cry sir, I know tommorow Progress M-14M will die.
Tommorow is the Funeral.Buuuuuuuuuuuu HuHuHu!! RDF Energia | ☏ 06:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
And I've look at this User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/Infobox Workspace 2 RDF Energia | ☏ 06:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Graveyard at Pacafic Ocean I've wanted to dive into that spacecraft graveyard to see and excavate from Progress-1-Progress M13M Any look at this User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/Infobox Workspace 2 —Preceding undated comment added 06:41, 27 April 2012 (UTC).
We've tons of Work to complete. Mir Almaat has set up a deadline of 1 January 2013. That's definetly a lot of time,but i'll be semi-active from 26 may. What is the temperature in your place?Anyway do your edits and put on the workspace and I'll take a look at it do comment on it. You are free to do anything on me, including editing my userpage. RDF Energia | ☏ 10:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes and just do your edits and tell me when it is finished. RDF Energia | ☏ 11:03, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
andyom vareyum ene kaval chetituvan andi
CBAGFEDC CBAGFEDC Amen! Andyom vareyum!
This is what is going on at the spacecraft cemetery. RDF Energia | ☏ 04:58, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Dr Penyulap ? RDF Energia | ☏ 05:32, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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For Your Role in the establishment of the Government of Korilos(I mean your Edititing makes a fine structure like a government at both Workspaces) Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 06:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC) |
And what does PALZ9000 do?-- Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 07:29, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Sef Otshef Weimark Ahgg Bismack Ji hu ft u hgf yyh yhha hhhhaf jjkf hhaf ggs Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:41, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Isvol!Isvol!Isvolllllllllllllllll! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
And I had a chat with palz Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
And Progress M-14M was buried at 1 o clock GMT Today. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 16:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I am simply beside myself on trying to understand what it is that you are trying to express with your concerns about the Dragon spacecraft. If you are trying to propose a reorganization of the article, would you at least say that in your comments? Short pithy answers which are personal insults don't work very well and tend to make consensus in developing an article impossible.
If you have a legitimate concern with this article, I want to know what you are looking to see changed. The way you raised the question on the talk page made it sound like you were making a question more appropriate for the reference desk rather than something constructive in building an article. I still don't completely understand what you are confused about, or if you really are trying to find some information. Please explain clearly, in English (or in your native language if you can't write in English very well) just what you are looking for. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 21:19, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Few other spacecraft pages link back to their launch sites. The current standard is spacecraft/payloads link to their launcher, and then the launchers link to their launch sites. Sometimes, particular missions get their own page, in which case the mission page links up the launcher, launch site, and spacecraft/payload. If you'd like to see this changed, perhaps bring the issue up in Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight so we can change this across all spacecraft or lists of launches. -- IanOsgood ( talk) 01:26, 29 April 2012 (UTC) (P.S. I didn't appreciate your argumentative tone in this discussion. You came across as rather juvenile and hotheaded.)
Saying "This is so cool," and "I love it," when you actually mean to criticize something for being the opposite = sarcasm. Unless you actually do love the way this feature is implemented and think it's cool; but then, I doubt you'd see a reason to go "complain to your congressman" about it -- which is again sarcastic, unless you're actually considering that, in which case we have a different problem.
Be more choosey about the volume of sarcasm you dump into a post. People will appreciate and be more likely to offer constructive feedback on your posts if they don't see you being so incredibly flip and obnoxious about your (apparently serious) concerns. Equazcion (talk) 01:19, 29 Apr 2012 (UTC)
Monareal News Service Info:Progress M-14M was buried at 13:26 IST yesterday, at the Mongerier Spacecraft Cemetery in the Pacafic and prayers were held at the Fernando Catherdral on the atlantic ocean where SuitSat-1. |
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 10:43, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I was at the St George Orthodox Cathedral which is about 11,000 km away.And it would take at least 9562 telephone towers to reach there. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:04, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
And what about the infobox? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 04:55, 30 April 2012 (UTC) I have been working on the ISS infobox, perhaps it will give you some ideas on what we can do for the modules, but I haven't put it in yet. Penyulap ☏ 04:59, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Excuse Me Dr Penyulap, But see this : Kvant-1 Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
And Think this was happening at Progress M-14Ms funeral? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
You are at the Pope's funeral!(John Paul II'S) And those whites are all Priests! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I cant login there, Use My talk page or this one and create the talk page Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:29, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
First thing:I like to chat to wikipedians in wikipedia itself. Second thing: I'm under age. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:33, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
We are speaking about work things!Not social networking!Well, I have 66616526152661625 tons to do on wikipedia and I thing you'll do the work at Novogrod Almaat Workspace. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
It is a workspace of my own and can we start discussions at User talk:Monereal?It has to be created. The doppelganger account is there but no talk page. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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Arent you caring about your talkpage? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I'd send you a talkback 6 times. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 04:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
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You Penyulap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:04, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
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☏:trrring!Penyulap! See!!What!!is above!!this section!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:11, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
☏:trrring!:The Teahouse invitation!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:19, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
☏ Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:32, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Nothing.11:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC) Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30)
{{ The grumpy award}} Ha!!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Please comment on this or I will be flying in the air in an F-16 , ready to shoot you! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Dr tennie was there a day ago . Can I tell him in peace? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Is it time to edit the old infobox with the new one? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 06:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Which one, there are two here they have substantial differences. Penyulap ☏ 06:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
That is because I don't have 71% info on Pirs. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 06:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Click the edit button, and look which data sections I've abandoned and look at their label sections
label29 = launch date data29 = 24 December 1982
label40 = Reentry date data40 = You know that I don't know what to answer that label.
This is just an example. Not reality. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 07:08, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
No reply? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 18:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Did you do what I told you? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
What the **** are you shouting about? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Ok , Penyulap now look at this page. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 09:18, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I read TF all the time... Is it generally accepted as a good source? I could be adding some of that stuff. Be——Critical 03:51, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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Sweet, I guess that's a 'yes' to my request. Penyulap ☏ 04:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I didn't want to write until the dust had settled a little. When I said thanks for the advice on my talk page I did not know that you had also written to ANI. So now here from me are the many many more thanks I owe you! Best regards, Eddaido ( talk) 12:41, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
"But meh, I can probably get over it by disliking you lot. :)" That made me laugh outloud. Not something that happens much when working on an encyclopedia. You seem so reasonable as an editor. Dang...what happened in your Wiki training...didn't you get the memo on fighting collaboration? ;)(I kid the Penyulap)-- Amadscientist ( talk) 23:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
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Your "Pesky Express" made me smile, which is pretty rare, as I'm disabled and often in pain. Thanks! INeverCry 03:06, 10 May 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you for your kindness and the barnstar too, it's given me tears of joy to know I have brightened up your day considering your circumstances. Penyulap ☏ 03:10, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I'd love to be a part of one of your's and Pesky's works. The rider idea is very creative,(no surprise), but I'm afraid it wouldn't fit me so well. My disability makes it hard to eat alot of the time (especially not anything that could go by the description of "tasty"), so those beautiful dishes would be such a tease... Maybe you could do something small just for my user page? In the end, talking with you is nice enough though. INeverCry 04:36, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I hope that helps a bit. If not, go with whatever you think of- I don't forsee being disappointed with anything you do, unless there were monkeys in it (I have a phobia for primates). ;) Anyways, I'm headed off to bed so I'll see you in the morning. INeverCry 06:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Monareal News Service Info: Progress M-14M was buried at 13:26 IST yesterday, at the Mongerier Spacecraft Cemetery in the Pacific and prayers were held at the Fernando Cathedral on the Atlantic Ocean where SuitSat-1 rests. |
I get the fonts I use here from Microsoft Works Word Processor on the drop down list. I think all these fonts are supported on wiki. As you can see I use AR Cena, AR Blanca, and Mistral, all of which come from MS Works. This means 100+ fonts, but let me know if you find others. INeverCry 00:53, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I expected it to be the polar opposite of "sucks", and I wasn't disappointed! I had another idea for an animation:
A big tree. At the bottom of the tree is a hole. A little Alice comes walking into the picture and stops aside the hole. A little rabbit pokes out of the whole. They look at each other and the rabbit beckons to her. The rabbit disappears back down the hole, then Alice jumps or dives in.
I don't know if that's makeable, but I enjoyed picturing it in my head and writing it down...
As for Moore and the Others, I may be headed for a big expansion of one of those Others's articles, namely Mrs. Gaskell.
Thanks and more thanks for the present, and have a great weekend! (or atleast a decent one, which is what I'm trying for). INeverCry 19:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, I found a horse :) and added it to the Pesky express. I had not found a suitable horse and buggy combination, what do you think ? Penyulap ☏ 08:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Make my day a little more gothic? LOL! I used to be very active as an artist. These last few months I have been a bit ill (no need for any sympathy it's hereditary...I blame the parents. Bwahahaha.), I can't sit very long or stand very long sometimes, (or walk or lay down. It's Gout) and it makes it impossible (for obvious reasons) to drive or run sewing machines (foot peddle is impossible to control. I make different stuff) but since i haven't used a brush and canvas in years. I started a painting...of a Victorian Gothic Castle. LOL! I can stand or sit as needed a lot longer then just sitting and my foot isn't required to do anything. It's a very "halloween" looking image. Here is the subject. Preston Castle, in California. Thanks for the Donut of Doom! LOL!-- Amadscientist ( talk) 16:24, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I laughed at the award. Love it. Only question: Is it the Donut or Doughnut of doom? Mmmm, juicy doughnuts, ahhh. Bgwhite ( talk) 18:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Just wondering if you're familiar with deviantart.com? I've been collecting works off of it for years. Here's the animations search: Deviantart.com gifs. INeverCry 01:27, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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I apologise if you have become offended. It is common on Wikipedia for editors to make these warnings when they think they may be needed. It was not unreasonably for me to assume you were suggesting or, it may be percieved that your inferrence was that Deviant art was a good place to find animations for use on Wikipedia. There may well be, however the link you left also was to copyright violations that Deviant Art has not removed. It is common on Deviant art to recieve questions and/or warnings for copy protected works uploaded. Also since it is the very nature of collaboration on Wikipedia to work together telling another editor to "mind your own business" is irrelevant. It's all our business. And I would at least hope, if you were not aware of copyright policy on either sites that perhaps this was something to discuss or think about. Sorry Penyulap.-- Amadscientist ( talk) 05:41, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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You was trying to conduct "human test" but you not know is i am a cat! This is picture of me captured with webcam:
NO SCARE AGAIN!!! :P
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LOL, absolutely agreed ;-) benzband ( talk) 17:27, 16 May 2012 (UTC)"…the people of the United States of America are responsible for poor spelling in general."
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It may be hidden, but it's not hidden enough ! the ISS has a three year war that will inevitably lead to arbcom over ENG:VAR ! this is just the sort of armaments the soldiers would love to get a hold of. As for myself, I have precisely no idea what my browser spell checker is set for, and if that's not bad enough I have more than one computer (for art) and I think that they are set different. On the other hand, I should take an interest, I see there is the possibility of war breaking out over the spelling of 'diarrhoea'. Penyulap ☏ 17:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
well how about some nice mice pie ? Mmmmm yummy Penyulap ☏ 09:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I am taking a very long wikibreak for 1-2 years. Please remember the infobox. And finish the work. I've added to be decided to the parameters i don't know. Thank you. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I had an account. I can't login to that now. Remember, I'll be back only on 2013-2014 so please finish the infobox. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:12, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat 1 S1 is taking a long wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia 2013-2014 |
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hi there!... the images I wanted to use were
Idea
Like the Indian Barnstar of National merit, or any other national merit barnstar...a barnstar for contributions to Commonwealth articles was what I thought.My plan was to replace the Indian flag with the Commonwealth flag.If it fits in nicely....very good.......or if you have any alternate ideas...please go ahead.... .. Strike Eagle ✈ 03:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Done, it's a messy image to begin with I think, however it's a quick fix, I would wonder if a laureate can be combined in place of the medal, it would look 100% better, but the politics I think may not be compatible. Penyulap ☏ 09:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Got it now.....really liked the image... .......just wanted to know if there are any chances of making it transparent of that blue colour...any chances? Strike Eagle ✈ 12:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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For the Commonwealth Barnstar(Award)...thanks a lot man!... Strike Eagle ✈ 13:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you !! Penyulap ☏ 13:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
see if it works now... Brendon is here 13:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Strike Eagle ✈ 13:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Did you mean to say the IP's logic was your own logic? Or the sockmaster's logic? (Caution: I seem to be denser than usual today.) ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
It seems you have a lot of energy to help decide matters, such as ANI reports and blocks of troublesome users. You might work well as a new admin. Perhaps this is a good time for you to submit an initial WP:RfA, to get direct feedback on where to concentrate, on the road to becoming a future admin. As I understand the environment, it is important to avoid future blocks, as each block will be hyped into "hideous, incorrigible behaviour" which would be cited, by many, as reasons to deny your adminship. However, with the feedback from other editors, you might gain adminship, later this year, and could work to improve the processes to investigate and judge the " WP:Gaming of the system" which many admins cannot catch during ANI-incident discussions. Things to ponder. - Wikid77 ( talk) 00:33, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
--Now, don't give it to me..please. Okay? Brendon is here 13:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you ! (sorry I stepped out for a moment) Penyulap ☏ 13:29, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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If you would like to unblock someone where you see an error has occurred, you'd naturally start with WP:unblock, which says nothing about 3rd parties, and following the link to Wikipedia:Appealing a block you get instructions, nothing on a 3rd party, and that leads to the Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks, hmm, yeah, well nothing there either. So I popped an unblock template onto someones page, which is apparently not the way to do it, because as it has been pointed out, it goes on your own page. So, hey, enjoy !! Penyulap ☏ 22:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
it looks like a good project, but visually it kind of completely sucks :) some things spring to mind straight away, like anime, do you want like, a record player that goes round and round ? or like, a stereo with a L.E.D. bargraph that goes in time with (silent) music ? Penyulap ☏ 03:42, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the new friend. I've moved him to my user page because being of such a sensitive nature, I'm sure he'll find the air better for his emotional health, there.( Ill have to move him around later on so he has a better view. olive ( talk) 22:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) Actually, he hiccuped for 45 years. I rarely miss a Simpsons reference when I see it, especially one from the first 10-15 seasons. :> Doc talk 11:32, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome! It's one of the best comedies of all time, due to the quality of the writing. This guy was particularly brilliant. Starting at season 4 is where it really became an undeniably classic show IMHO, right from the season opener. Now we're looking at a 24th season... amazing. Cheers :> Doc talk 11:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I saw your comment
here @00:10, 25 May (UTC).
I reverted his changes and reported him on or before 23:55, May 24 (UTC) and he was already blocked by the time you last commented about him in the ANI at 00:12, May 25, 2012 (UTC).
Hence, as you wished, your notice at the ANI has been wiped. Just thought you should know, Brendon is here 05:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Google translate 'helpfully' translated km into miles for me (the word not the actual number). Secretlondon ( talk) 23:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I had to revert that to a pre-vandalism version; feel free to reinstate your change. 28bytes ( talk) 02:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I hereby invite you to review this essay that I wrote about welcoming new users (and any other essay of mine). Comment on it or add something if you will. Brendon is here 09:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap! PALZ9000 is almost 3 months old. I've wished to give him a few presents.
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Hope he(and you) like it! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 09:50, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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for some reason passing the ubx custom text doesn't work, I hope a stalker can help there, or with categories for my userboxes, or anything else, I'm always glad for techno-stalker assistance. For the time being it can be placed as-is on his userpage. Penyulap ☏ 17:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Not wishing to do so now on my own talk page, I thought it might be valid on yours :) Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 23:00, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I see something has frustrated you, can I help you in any way? My76Strat ( talk) 23:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is " XfD Topic Ban for User:TenPoundHammer (Again)". Thank you. Andy Dingley ( talk) 18:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you opened. The thread is " XfD Topic XfD Topic Ban for User:Andy Dingley". Thank you. Penyulap ☏ 21:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Rich
Farmbrough,
16:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC).
(she was a bit of a cunt in all honesty, see hitchens) Egg Centri c 16:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap - I ran across your Innocent prisoner's dilemma article (which I very much enjoyed), and noticed the "linkrot" tag at the top - so I ran that "reflinks" fix tool to change the bare URLs to templated data for the references section. If you're not happy with the results - feel free to revert my edits and I'll not be upset at all. Best of luck Chedzilla ( talk) 16:27, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I can change the embedded text easily enough, and crop the image top and or bottom. I would guess you can easily edit the links, I think that red carpet could be members rather than articles, or not, there is also hall of fame, but neither are good for articles, they both suggest people. I guess you can go with an industry award name ? or make one up :) Penyulap ☏ 07:44, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
WilliamH ( talk) 21:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
[6] I LOL'd :) Equazcion (talk) 13:56, 1 Jun 2012 (UTC)
would you mind if we userfy this template? it seems to depend on stuff in your userspace. Frietjes ( talk) 20:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Got one - User talk:Dennis Brown#Youreallycan Egg Centri c 23:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're aware, but your edit to your userpage was fine, and that other guy was wrong to revert it. People post "fuck wikipedia" on their userpages every day. There's no rule against it. Equazcion (talk) 05:32, 2 Jun 2012 (UTC)
Seems like you wrote some fuck wp at your userpage. What is the problem? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Live audio? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
My Doppelganger(Mir Almaat1 S2) has recognized PALZ9000 has the Head bot of ISSIB template. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 08:14, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
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[7] I LOL'd :) Equazcion (talk) 13:56, 1 Jun 2012 (UTC)
would you mind if we userfy this template? it seems to depend on stuff in your userspace. Frietjes ( talk) 20:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Got one - User talk:Dennis Brown#Youreallycan Egg Centri c 23:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're aware, but your edit to your userpage was fine, and that other guy was wrong to revert it. People post "fuck wikipedia" on their userpages every day. There's no rule against it. Equazcion (talk) 05:32, 2 Jun 2012 (UTC)
Seems like you wrote some fuck wp at your userpage. What is the problem? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Live audio? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
My Doppelganger(Mir Almaat1 S2) has recognized PALZ9000 has the Head bot of ISSIB template. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 08:14, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
You have my most profound apologies for not having noticed your additional comments on the Wikipe-tan image. A baptism image might be very good, indeed. Also, FWIW, I do hope that, maybe in time, we might have some of the other religion projects adopt some sort of image of her. Although it is a bit of a stereotype, we might have her lifting the headcovering from a burka for an image for the Islam project, for instance. And I have always loved the colors of saris, and actually like any pictures of women in them. (I could make some sort of off-color comment in very dubious taste here regarding, for instance, livestock of some sort in saris, and am actually sorely tempted to, but will try to restrain myself.) I think we may start voting when this month's newsletter gets sent out, which I hope is tomorrow, but do think that there would probably be time to develop a "baptism" image if you wanted to. Having said that, my own comment was more about the bikini than the baptism in the image suggested by someone else. Thanks again for your efforts. John Carter ( talk) 19:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Interestingly File:Knowledge_English_EU_map.png includes Turkey (turns out "candidate countries" are included. Even more interestingly the svg version includes Iceland and not Turkey! Maybe encourage you to crack that SVG barrier...
Rich
Farmbrough,
17:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC).
Hi,
I think that you should remove in the user box the text : {{{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/dmana}}
It should make disappeared the documentation and the userboxes about trains which are not necessary in this userbox. I did not dare to do that myself.
On your userpage, you should add some userboxes to present yourself. Like that :
What I am
|
There are more complex syntaxes. I use some of them. You can look at my user page. -- Tangopaso ( talk) 17:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
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Nice work on the intro on the Stop Online Piracy Act page, it makes it much more accessible. Sloggerbum ( talk) 21:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC) |
Why thank you, I LOVE SHINY THINGS !!!!! WooHoo !!!!! Penyulap talk 21:15, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
Hey Penyulap, even though you are "semi-retired" I see you've been busy on Talk:Stop Online Piracy Act. It seems that you've been voluntarily injecting yourself into a very heating subject, and I felt that I should commend you on your neutrality, article improvements, and general responses. SOPA got nearly two million views on Wednesday, and there's been so much discussion on the Talk page that its like 200 kilobytes despite the heavy application of MiszaBot. I see so many random IPs posting this like "this article is so ridiculously biased, Wikipedia's being stupid about the whole thing" and I appreciate you trying to take care of things in a very constructive way. That's all. Hope you don't get too emotionally affected by all the flak. Keep up the good work! Jessemv ( talk) 23:51, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
I added a reference there because I didn't have time to thoroughly study the article and work it in elsewhere. If the line I changed reflects content elsewhere, then it would be a nightmare to go hashing it up and fighting off people who disagree with my changes. I made a near indisputable change (a sentence of which the intrinsic grammar was violated) to fix one sure thing that revealed bias that couldn't be questioned. My one reference is a suggestion that that type of error that exists in the rest of the article be addressed. Feel free to work it in elsewhere and remove the link, however, if no one's inserted a similar reference (standing FBI policy on copyright infringement), I strongly suggest it remain there as an example of work that needs to be done. It's a much better tentative than nothing at all. My change, IMO, addresses a major point that opponents of the bill fail to address. Squish7 ( talk) 01:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
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Hey Penyulap, I wish i could assist you. But frankly I dont have any rights in COmmons. -- Karthik Nadar 17:53, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
It's a bribe. No beverage until you work some of your magic on the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement intro (w/refs preferably). ACTA is about to be getting a lot of traffic, save them all from nosebleeds? Sloggerbum ( talk) 19:19, 21 January 2012 (UTC) |
3RR WARNING - You really can 20:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
an image that is in the news, all over the news.
An image created by the artist who is all over the news, in protest against SOPA and PIPA.
Naturally, they can't be included in the article. Penyulap talk 20:50, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing at the [ Tamil Wikipedia page] :) -- C.R.Selvakumar ( talk) 22:40, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
வரவேற்கிறேன் Penyulap talk 23:29, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Am I right in presuming that your comments here mean that you are unwilling to remove the message you posted? If so, I'm hoping that you reconsider - while no one would be foolish enough to think that the message was by Lamar Smith, it seems inappropriate to post it on the talk page of the SOPA article, especially given current concerns. It was funny, but I'm concerned that the humour wasn't appropriate for the situation. - Bilby ( talk) 06:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
* - I have removed your demeaning self created picture of a living subject of one of our articles - please don't replace it. Thanks - You really can 10:43, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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The reason you weren't topic banned formally at the previous ANI thread is because you basically said "Hey, I should be topic banned" so everyone just said "Great, no need to great a formal ban, just go ban yourself." So rather than waste our own times in debating a topic ban, we figured we'd actually take you at your word. Topic banning you was never rejected, it was just never discussed because you said you'd ban yourself. THAT is why the topic is relevant now. It is especially relevant because even a few hours ago you said you thought a topic ban would be a good idea. only (talk) 23:43, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
I so want to give you the last word, but you ask too many good questions of me. Project wide means all wiki projects, many editors only know of English Wikipedia, which we use now, but there are others, a Japanese Wikipedia, a Russian Wikipedia and so forth, there are quite a few. I have made at this moment, contributions to more than three dozen of them, but most of my contributions are space related, mostly ISS related, across 20 or so of them. So problems with one editor, on one article, at ANI turns up people shouting I should be banned across sites they may be completely unaware of, and many people show no signs they are even aware of any details at all of the dispute being discussed. It's called demagoguery and it's popular here, so popular I should write an essay to improve awareness of it. The ban for mythical creatures was also too wide. I had asked for an interaction ban, which was the ideal solution, to no avail. It wasn't even taken seriously or discussed. As for seeking attention, Wikipedia editors don't make the headlines like celebrities or talkback radio jocks or politicians, no, ours is a life of anonymity, punctuated only by an occasional barnstar I'm afraid. Wiki is no solution for attention seekers. Penyulap talk 02:00, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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(inserted by curator) see also ANI:Bullied and User:SKeptical_of_Love&action=history
Saw your changes to the ROS pic, have to admit i like the highlighted USOS but the arrows arnt necessary. They confuse the image. Also, just so you know... Progress now only docks at Pirs (future Nauka) site, and the Zvezda aft port. Soyuz will only ever dock at Poisk and Rassvet. The current photo shows this and is correct. You could annotate it to simplify it. Check out my website, I now do most my posts on Twitter thru that page now. www.spaceshuttlealmanac.com. I am getting quite the following, and enjoying it much more than being insulted on Wiki. Hope you are well. Leebrandoncremer ( talk) 08:16, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
It's true they are confusing, I was trying to get around requesting a slight counterclockwise rotation of the upper arrow before, it seemed not to be able to make up it's mind if it was pointing at the dm or the sm, so I thought I'd mess with it again. I know what you mean, between the fans on my talkpage and the recent assistance I got with the Operation Global Blackout article, and reading up about Wikidragons, Yeah, I'm loving it, it's all good. Penyulap talk 09:44, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
[1] - SummerPhD ( talk) 03:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Hmm, let me see,
Say, how has it been ? Do you still have that 77 scorecard on your page ? Lemme have a look. Oh yes !!! it's up to 80 something. Anyhow, enough chit chat, how may I help you, the crystal ball isn't working, or is it working too well ? And, I'd also like to know is there any problem with me talking about my previous editing on the tooth fairy article on my talkpage ? Penyulap talk 04:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict, I'll post this bit first but probably comment above, cause I already posted a tb on his page) Well what do you know, he's no beginner. I'll ask him about his pushing here, you know, for continuity. Xenophrenic, can you tell me why, as I had asked you specifically on the talkpage, actually, here I'll quote my question
Xenophrenic, don't remove notable parts of the lead like this, say why you think they shouldn't be included.
I'm happy for them to be removed if there is some kind of good reason. Penyulap talk 18:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
That was my question as timestamped there, next day, you've taken out two of them for the third time at the very least, without a mention of why on the talkpage, why is that ? Penyulap talk 06:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for the late notification, when I pressed preview to see if the tb was correct, I think a new messages thing came up and I was diverted. Penyulap talk 07:30, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
plus what I have told you is a peacock term, 'expert'. I've asked you on the talkpage what is going on, and you've ignored me, and done it all over again the next day. You know better than that looking at your userpage. Penyulap talk 07:56, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, that article was rather busy with newbies, and from the way that you were acting I fully concluded that you were a newbie. I see now that's not the cause. Here is why I thought you were a newbie.
Removing "The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a rights advocacy non-profit group, confirmed the protests were the biggest in Internet history, with over 115 thousand sites altering their webpages."
Removing "The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) warns that proxy servers and websites hosting user-generated content, such as Etsy, Flickr and Vimeo, could be targeted under the bill"
So I figured you weren't answering questions asked on the talkpage because you were a newbie. Considering the overwhelming speed of that article's editing, and the amount of newbies who I was helping on the article talkpage I'm sure you'll forgive me for not somehow noticing the, actually, where were the explanations again ? One of them was in the edit summary was it ? where were the others exactly? Penyulap talk 16:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
So I think that the peacock term is being returned to the article because it is there in one other place I didn't notice ? So rather than remove peacock terms, we have to balance peacock terms in the article between the "supporters and opponents" sections of the article. Cool, and rather than explain on the article talkpage, it's explained somewhere else. No worries. I'll leave the peacock terms for you to balance out as you see fit. Penyulap talk 16:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
This user is a
WikiDragon making massive, bold edits everywhere. |
I found something I quite like. Penyulap talk 10:54, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
OMG you're a total GENIUS, that whole "the rendezvous and docking project hardware is compatible with the International Space Station." - Jiang Guohua, a professor and chief engineer at the China Astronaut Research and Training Center in Beijing. is brilliant. Stick it in the article man ! I can't steal your thunder there, you've had that since march ? good thing you remember/mention it ! That is brilliant ! Especially since it's the first specific mention of the rendezvous system. Which suggests more than it reveals as to where the docking would occur, yes, because as far as I kwikinow, there is no (automatic) rendezvous system whatsoever on the USOS, it's strictly Russian.
Anyhow as for the public domain thing, it's like 'So totally too late' horse has bolted and so forth. The Americans are simply trying to make their version the standard, however, JAXA is the only agency I can see being told to take it up. The ESA, Russians and Chinese have the standard and are far too busy going to MARS to backtrack for no reason whatsoever, except to help America avoid the requirement to use the Russian designed system on it's craft in future if it wants to co-operate. If they get that onto the station, or if it is scheduled to go, like on the new commercial craft, then it's in the article, but as it is, can't see it's relevancy. (even though it is released into the PD it is still a US idea, and gives them boasting rights)
ITAR is just another way to say 'we don't like you' after all you can only copy answers in class if you are copying off someone who knows more than you, whats to learn from the ISS that 921 and tiangong 3 heavy don't already demonstrate ? Still if there is a page for ITAR, a link is good for the impediments that America makes towards Chinese partnership.
Re the technical incompatibilities, that's to do with the rendezvous system, is the Shenzhou optical whilst the Russian is RF, making it an obvious (and easy) requirement to EVA attach the appropriate fittings to the ISS first, they are always fiddling with the Kurs furniture up there, so it's no big hassle. Penyulap talk 05:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Spacecraft assembled and provisioned on the moon could escape its far lower gravity using far less energy, and thus, far less cost.
— Epic Accounting Fail. Encyclopedia of epic accounting fails Google search, pp 55-57.
I put that one back in, initially I left it out because I had to shove in so many refs for it, that it would ugly up the article, so I just left it out. I didn't know how to do notes, (I probably still don't actually) anyhow, I put it back in, and wrestled until I got the notes thing looking ok. Let me know if it seems ok to you. I think I left out one, but that's ok too, as it's generally, rather than always, and I can't care to find out or telephone the guy :) Penyulap talk 10:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap. I had to deny the transfer of File:Isshtv120090917200858nm.jpg from here to Commons, as Commons cannot accept "word of mouth" permissions for files, and technically they are not accepted here, either. You will need to get in touch with the author, and have them send an email to OTRS stating the filename and that they release the image under a particular license or into the public domain. Full instructions can be found at Commons:OTRS, and I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have. Thanks. — Huntster ( t @ c) 10:17, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I was looking at ISS article, particulary
this section, and I think it's a good idea to make clickable version for some of its images, by labeling them like
this one, also we can make clickable areas with a different method (yeah, cool! I made some before, see
this one) -- using
ImageMap MediaWiki extension (itself uses the
<map>
tag). I like doing these sort of things so if you think it is useful just say the word and I'll come to assist. --
Z
01:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict, we both went after that 'I') OMG you're my new bestest friend. I've been crying out all over the page for help there, and labeling all the piccies in three or more languages, YOUR IDEA IS AN OUTRAGE to all the shit work I've been doing so far. Please, we so need it because it's really easy to change labels that are not in the image itself to suit all the different wikipedia languages as well, 77 last time I counted, but some of those are beyond hope. (Wikipedia is not a concept that translates into many cultures for reasons I won't go into.) Choosing the image is the interesting part, because we need super hires ones that zoom in, because I can label all the dohickies and whatsimacallits and thingamabobs on the outside of the station and ships too. But lets start with something simple I guess. It's hard to find one for all the pressurized modules, except when the station is viewed from it's underside ! And Kibō is so camera shy all we can come up with is this here at the top, to show her on orbit. Blah! The File:Russian Orbital Segment.png pic is an awesome choice, it's used across a few articles. Craigboy, and if we can treat the poor bloke with a bit more respect, Leebrandoncremer, are experts with images and so forth. But how about TheAnarcat pic in the structure section, is that one a cool place to start off ? (darn, something wrong and I can't load it atm) anyhow, if it's as hires as i recall, maybe it's the place to start, what do you think, where would you like to start, and how can I help, besides 200% support of course? Penyulap talk 01:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Now my other genius idea is that the links don't just goto the different articles, but they goto different images, so you've got click to zoom, which takes you to different pictures and different portions of the station. Have you seen something called google streetview ? you click links that move you up and down the street. Now that is what I'm talking about. A dam good article. should be plenty of inspiration there for everyone. Penyulap talk 06:48, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm actually trying to use the both methods in one! So the articles would be opened by clicking on the labels, and if people click on different parts of the ROS they will go to the related image. I finally found the tool which I was seeking, made by Dapete, now just copy this line:
importScriptURI('http://toolserver.org/~dapete/ime/ime.js');
and paste it in User:Penyulap/common.js and save the page, then open File:Russian Orbital Segment.png (only Firefox and IE are supported) and you will see "ImageMapEdit >" just under the picture (clear cache if needed), then click on it, I know you will find out how to use it with a little fiddling with it (use both left and right click to define a new area) tell me if you need any help! -- Z 09:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
{{ Russian Orbital Segment}} I hope you enjoy it! You know, I have a lot of ideas about this project, based on your genius idea we even can make something like Google maps, it's a quite unique thing in the Wikipedia and I really would like to implement it soon, people can explore the station just like they do it with earth in Google maps, it would be a great thing, wait what I'm taking about, I came to talk about the image, I know there may be some errors in it, I've learned a bit about these subjects, but still can't fully understand the structure of even this component, so it is good to check it yourself. This was just a start, we can work on the station layout after that. -- Z 23:06, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
And the Image Map Editor, it is very easy to use -- click on that "ImageMapEdit >" in image's page, somethings would appear now, then click on "rectangle" so a new area would be created and now we should set a couple of coordinates: (1) the top left one, by left click and (2) the bottom right one, by right click. when the wrk is down, scroll down a bit and the generated code is there. -- Z 23:09, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Can't wait to spread this about through the other languages too ! Oh yeah, I LOVE this idea. Penyulap talk 00:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
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You assuming there's an APAS mechanism on Zvevda
The Zarya and Zvezda ones would have slight mission-specific mods, Penyulap
(inserted text) Yep, your right there, one point to Craigboy :) Penyulap talk
You assuming there are "lots" of different versions of APAS and your "penyulap skills" telling you they are all pretty much compatible.
there are lots of different versions [of APAS], Penyulap
- There really is only three. Craigboy ( talk) 01:05, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Three is lots. besides, I'm sure there are other versions we don't know of offhand. Plus my penyulap skills tell me that the different versions are pretty much compatible, and we won't find it referenced either way, not easily. Penyulap 03:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- No Pen, these were the only three ever used. APAS-75 in no way would be able to dock with APAS-89, the petals are completely different, the diameters are different and the hooks don't line up. Not to mention the last APAS-75 docking was in 1975, and the first APAS-89 docking was in 1993. And there would be no reason for APAS-89/95 to be compatible with APAS-75 because it wasn't even in use after 1976. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Naa, Jury is still out on that one. There are lots more besides those, some with fancy names some only on paper, like for Buran. The pinouts for the connectors would use mission specific designations, pipes and tubes and stuff would vary (if there are any) according to mission. Penyulap talk
You assuming APAS-75 is compatible with APAS-89/95.
You could call it 'apas compatible' but every version of APAS is apas compatible Penyulap
- Only APAS-75 is not. Craigboy ( talk) 01:05, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oh I'm thinking it is myself. Wasn't that the one used on that whole Apollo-Soyuz (Or reversed in Russian, as Soyuz-Apolla, lol) mission thing. There was like one Russian designed APAS-75 on each craft and the whole thing went down smooth, without any embarassing moments in space where they found out that APAS-75 was not APAS compatible ? Penyulap 03:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) hey wait, your assuming I'm assuming 75 and 89 are compatible. I'm saying every one they make joins up to something, that's for a start. like the soyuz and the apollo ones. you know, no embarassing moments. but here...
(hey wow, I just saw how long this section is, WOW, this is amazing !) Umm, ok, compatible in the way there'd be fewer variations on the mechanical parts, so you could get one meant for one mission and slam it into another for some other mission, and they'd dock and hold, but the wiring wouldn't work. Like that, not all of them though, but fewer mechanical 'strike plate' variations than connector variations (electrical or liquid, gas options). Penyulap talk
You assuming that APAS mechanism was used in over 200 dockings when that's obviously not the case.
Two ways, One as a simple indicator that the APAS system is used for other things rather than just the shuttle. Recall if you will STS-135 was the last mission, so 200 dockings can't have been performed by the NASA shuttle even if every one of it's trips went to the ISS. It's a fair indication that there is more to the story. Instant indication that there is more to be researched. Two, as for the peacock term, I'd say 'many is understated' if after all many is the wrong word to describe 200 dockings, what would be said of the shuttle docking system ? it's seldom-used ? that wouldn't go down well with readers. I'm thinking whatever the shuttle uses has been used 'many times' and something that has been used more often than that can have a 'many' or something even better. Penyulap 02:47, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen its a bad source. The 200 dockings statement probably wasn't even meant to be about APAS, how could it be? Since APAS was mostly only used for the Shuttle program. The 200 dockings probably meant to be about the Probe/Drogue system. Many was only a peacock term for "...China, Europe and Russia have a co-operative relationship in many space exploration projects" because they have only done a few missions together. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Hey, I totally had a cite for that and everything, you know, the nice old man who died and all, if your going to try and tell me there are less than 200 dockings, you go get a cite, fair is fair. Penyulap talk
You assuming that Zarya forward is a usable docking port, you assuming a docking adapter could be built and launched in three months.
Sweet, but only if you find a proper ref that says they can't be uncovered, or new ones can't be sent in preparation for the Chinese visit, or new arrangements cannot be made in preparation for the Chinese visit. Then and only then the statement 'the Chinese could dock in future' would be incorrect. If the Chinese and the Europeans or the Chinese and the Russians especially wanted to do a Apollo-Soyuz historic handshake in space they could do it in 3 months prep time, but why bother ? there is no big rift to cross. They don't go boasting about what is possible they just get on with doing it, with small announcements of what they are about to do. Saying this and that is possible is not their style, for either of these superpowers. Penyulap 02:38, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- If the Zarya is disconnected from PMA-1, than it would no longer be the International Space Station. Russia uses different docking ports so they're not compatible like the source says. "Then and only then the statement 'the Chinese could dock in future' would be incorrect." No because it can dock with USOS. You would not be able to build and launch an adapter in three months. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Zarya forward IS a usable docking port, and it IS being used. Naturally if you want to dock a few chinese modules or craft to it, you'd want to jettison the USOS first. It's an alarming idea for sure, and would possibly come as a surprise to anyone in Kibo at the time (I don't think there is a button on the Zvezda console for it. I wonder if they could try to grab the ROS with a robot arm on the USOS before their air ran out?), but hey, jettisoning the USOS is an option that has been tossed about a number of times in end-of-mission planning. Plenty of times where NASA funding is looking less than stellar, they've considered abandoning the project, how many times has that happened ? Then the Russians think what options do we have ? They can either come up with a shiny new space station at short notice and limited budgets or they can keep on using the ROS, which is designed for refurbishment. (though I think it'd get just as ratty and dilapidated as MIR was eventually, but it'd do until they got something better on orbit)
3 months prep time IS enough, WHEN there is a burning need for it. Docking ports don't need to take forever to slap together, the Russians have done complete missions in short times like that, to celebrate past events I think. The Russians and Chinese are good friends. Flight time between the two countries is short, the engineers are known for working together well (Phobos) so arranging a different docking port on the shenzhou is not going to take a million years. Pack up a bit of equipment and Russian engineers, send em over with a kurs or two and whatever else is required and there you go.
THe whole 'the Chinese could dock in future' is a broad unqualified statement which is far too easy to make true. I suggested 3 months, they can take 10 years and it's still true. Penyulap talk
You defending information that has been verified as being incorrect and you showing strong bias
His highly reliable electromechanical systems, which included the Androgynous Peripheral Assembly System, the proper name of the docking system, in addition to onboard manipulators and reusable solar arrays, are among the jewels of the Russian space program.
His docking system was first tried out on unmanned spacecraft in 1967 or 1968, he told the publication Space News, then on two manned capsules in 1969. It successfully docked more than 200 missions and has never had a failure in space— [2]
- The source is inaccurate which is why you should avoid non-space flight publications. APAS-75 was the first APAS mechanism but it wasn't used until the 1974 (unmanned test for the Apollo-Soyuz mission). The manned mission your quote is mentioning Soyuz 4/ Soyuz 5, this used a very early version of the Russian Probe and Drogue (which Vladimir Syromyatnikov also worked on) that is used today. Craigboy ( talk) 00:58, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- There is nothing wrong with the source, it is clear the person has done more research into APAS and is a better source than if the front page of the NASA website itself said "APAS was used to dock the shuttle to the ISS". A well researched point made by some little person beats a misleading half-truth from the NASA website. Penyulap 02:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen are you serious? They got many basic things wrong (and the author is by no means an expert on the subject, but yet you take here word but not that of the engineers at Boeing). Your politcal ideolgies seem to be getting in the way of your objectivism. Craigboy ( talk) 04:57, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I'm serious, Patricia is giving lots of leads and facts you can use to do further checking. Thats great. The Boeing 'engineers' as you call them, use the word 'clone' in a manner that defines the text book dictionary definition of 'unsubstantiated claim' it's an offhanded insult or a sloppy guess at best. Penyulap 06:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Biased? everyone is biased in some way, how do you mean ? which way ? I'm not saying the washington post or Patricia is particularly great, I'm just saying what craft is she referring to back in 67 and 68. I'm thinking there is a craft back then which uses an APAS docking system.
Where I think were on different pages is that you only want to recognize some of the APAS mechs as APAS mechs. APAS is like saying 'Bisexual' so 'Chris-75' and 'kim-89' are both bisexual, but they are not the only ones. There were bisexuals back in 67 and 68, 'Vlad' and 'boris' if you like. You can't just say there aren't 200 APAS because you can only find Chris and Kim, or only Chris and Kim are bi. Penyulap talk
You assuming Shenzhou can't be manually docked and a few other things.
It'll never happen, but that's the place [the Chinese] would [dock] if they could, because that's the place all the autodockings are made, and all the docking collars are proper. Anything the Americans are coming up with themselves, well, they'll be the only ones who use it nasa and it's commercial carriers that's all. Everyone else goes Russian. (well jaxa doesn't do dockings as yet). Penyulap 17:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- "Everyone else" is only ESA. JAXA has no intentions of docking to the station, if they did than the ISS partners would loose the large hatch diameter that berthing allows. The United States is responsible for transporting JAXA and ESA astronauts to the station since their modules are a portion of the USOS side, currently the United States is paying Russia for their transportation to the ISS. After Commercial Crew comes online, Soyuz will only be transporting Russian astronauts. Craigboy ( talk) 18:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) No I'm not, I'm saying the ROS is where the party is at, didn't you see that video I added to the external links, where they make Yuri look like he is dancing at a club somewhere even though he is made of cement, and are all butt slapping and so on ? The Americans can't stand the Chinese, they refuse, by law, to buy them a cheeseburger if they come and visit a NASA site, it's ILLEGAL to buy them a cheeseburger. (I wonder if fried rice is ok?, they might like that, or some Peking duck, yummmm Peking duck) Russia and China are good friends, Phobos, Chinese space program and so on. Where else would they possibly dock ? on the external platform of kibo and then come through the experiment airlock ? :)
Mark my words, if they do dock to the ISS, it'll be to the Russian segment. (marking my own words [X]) Penyulap talk
You assuming that the APAS family is much larger than it is
APAS is the root term for the entire family of Russian docking mechs, and the american and chinese and euro mechs which are all branches from that, afaik.
- No. The APAS family consists of APAS-75, 89 and 95. Although typically the term APAS is used to describe APAS-89/95 (APAS-75 is a very different, non-compatible mechanism). Americans used the APAS-95, these mechanisms were purchased from Energiya and integrated into the Shuttle's Orbital Docking System and onto the PMAs by Boeing.
You claiming there is a usable APAS mechanism on ROS, that Shenzhou isn't capable of being docked manually and that docking mechanisms can easily be converted to other types.
And what the americans are doing on their section is irrelevant. the APAS are Russian. not american. They are all over the station not just on the USOS. Penyulap
- There is one on ROS. It connects Zarya to Unity, and thus cannot be used for visting vehicles (nor has it ever). The only open APAS docking mechanisms are on PMA-2 and PMA-3, which are part of USOS. Craigboy ( talk) 18:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- No automated docking is possible at present on the USOS, so any supposed docking to that section will require new hardware to be sent up. Which means you can just as easily send up new hardware, such as slapping a new collar on the node module, Penyulap
(ins) It can be manually docked, no problem, but I am saying that just like everyone except NASA and JAXA, the chinese use autodocking first and manual as a backup. The ROS is equipped for autodock. USOS isnt'. Penyulap talk It doesn't matter that the USOS isn't equipped to allow autonomous docking if Shenzhou can be docked manually.-- Craigboy ( talk) 13:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
You assuming again that Shenzhou isn't capable of being docked manually.
OMG you're a total GENIUS, that whole "the rendezvous and docking project hardware is compatible with the International Space Station." - Jiang Guohua, a professor and chief engineer at the China Astronaut Research and Training Center in Beijing. is brilliant. Stick it in the article man ! I can't steal your thunder there, you've had that since march ? good thing you remember/mention it ! That is brilliant ! Especially since it's the first specific mention of the rendezvous system. Which suggests more than it reveals as to where the docking would occur, yes, because as far as I know, there is no (automatic) rendezvous system whatsoever on the USOS, it's strictly Russian. Penyulap 05:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
(ins) no I'm not, I am saying they don't fly by the seat of their pants, they take the russian "Ve have barkups fvor our barkups for our Oxillary redunentsee systems comorade" they demand high standards of safety. Penyulap talk
You're assuming that the Soyuz and Shenzhou are compatible.
The Chinese and Russian hardware is compatible for docking, making co-operation much easier (US hardware is not compatible, and auto-docking is unknown in US manned craft). Penyulap ( talk) 17:13, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
(ins) I think they just have to do a) the rendevouz and b) pinouts. Penyulap talk Expand on "pinouts".-- Craigboy ( talk) 13:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
Adding a Christmas section to the ISS page
New section "Christmas on the International Space Station"
I've created a new section for the article, that appears at Christmas when such material is notable, and not at other times of the year, when people probably won't care. The section without it's heading is at Template:Christmas on the International Space Station and please do add, edit and so forth. Ignore the warnings you will see about references, when it goes into the article they show up normally if they are done in the usual way. Anyhow, it all works although I will no doubt improve it's technical implementation, and might get help from others too. Or just go ahead and delete the lot if you feel the urge to ! whatever. Temporarily there is a way to view it on my talkpage ISS workspace, but I'll copy it out of there soon if it looks like a good idea, to aid in editing. Penyulap 07:39, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- woops, it's gone live sooner than I thought, thanks to technical help, and another take on which days are good, I'd better spruce it up, it was just example stuff really. Any comments on this section? Penyulap 10:56, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Going on a tangent about hats
Sorry, I apologize, I missed the word 'hard' on the first read. Didn't mean to twist your words. Anyhow, they're not hard hats that they are actually wearing in that picture. (I mean I can't get over your totally disputing the photographic evidence, I mean, this is not one of my own pictures I made, I'm not THAT good with GIMP, it's from NASA I think, just look it up) anyhow they are not hard hats, they are yellow hats. They can't have got onto the station without being 100% Mission control approved I'm sure. If I can get a ref saying they aren't hard hats, they are just yellow hats, can I have your support for the picture, and should I get a ref saying they wear hats on the ISS, you know, aside from this photo ? Also, I'm pretty darn sure the 'reason' has to be something to do with 'policy' or, to make it easy, any essay more than 3 days old will do too, probably. Wait, is it the caption ? I don't think I said anything about 'hard' hats, I do think I mentioned the commanders mustache though. How about I review the description so it doesn't mention hard in relation to hats. Penyulap 18:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen, I didn't say it was photoshopped. Re-read my original comment ("Crew members do not wear hard hats on the ISS (except for when they were posing for this picture)"). I don't know what you mean by "yellow hats" (and don't tell me they're hats that are yellow). They're clearly hard hats, and they're most likely wearing them to make it a humorous photo. Craigboy ( talk) 12:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm looking at the article right now and I'm seeing 5 hats across 2 photos. (Because the Christmas template is showing). There are plenty more hats here and if it is included that's going to make 10 hats in the article, I'm thinking some different colors would be nice, I mean they are all red hats, with white trim and a bit of green, I'd love a picture with some yellow hats to balance the article a bit. Penyulap 12:18, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Pen you're hard enough to follow as it is so can you please keep the jokes to a minimum. Craigboy ( talk) 12:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Well how about start making sense ? I mean what's "Image is inaccurate" or "Crew members do not wear hard hats on the ISS" all about ? oh come on, I am asking serious questions here, and what am I getting in return ? Penyulap 13:06, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
(inserted text) Ahh my hats my hats, my precious hats. I'm trying to convey the humor they have on the ISS, there is a lot of it. Russians are quite nuts for it. I mean how about this for an official government Mars500 website picture ? There is humor on all sides, but mostly on the American and Russian sides I can find it. We need more JAXA and Canadian humor ! Penyulap talk 10:36, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
I think there are some really cool things too, some things that seemed 'strange' at the time, but now are like the norm. Do you remember when people used to argue with me about the lede ? and how frustrated I got when they refused under all circumstances to discuss content, preferring to just revert everything ? Actually I think you would remember because you got hit by the shrapnel too, remember ?
From the time when I did my first edit till now, wow, what a difference we have made eh ?
Remember when people used to argue with me over how many space station projects there were ? now look at the Origins section, you can just read it. And even though I wrote it, I don't agree with Columbus being a space station, I wrote it the way I figured people would like it, whereas for the record, Columbus was nothing but an on-paper diplomatic bargaining tool, not a space station project. But it's too 'out there' to explain the difference to people, so I just keep the concepts nice and approachable. The other self criticism of that section is I haven't bothered to include Canada, but who cares ? maybe later on I'll add a good read.
The table of contents is nicer now, logical, and I love the feel of the article, more dramatic. I think we've done a fantastic job, but it's only just begun, there is so very much to do, the article is still a pile of crap. I have the special penyulap ability to just turn up the critique and see all the problems. Pick a section and I'll tell you lots and lots of things that are wrong with it. On the other hand, I can just turn it down too, and the article is lovely, or I can move across time and tell you why it will suck and where and how soon. And stability, I can pick and see where the hits will be, and why they occur, and head them off too. Omg, remember 'assembled' ? It's a dirty dirty word eh ? lolz. Penyulap talk 11:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
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Almost done, its easy parts though, lol (I can't fully understand this image which is my source). That tool which I previously told you is a bit buggy so I'm using this one. Also ROS is in a good shape now ( sample). Don't worry if you don't like it's design, that's easy to change (I've created some here). -- Z 17:06, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh and about User talk:Penyulap/Fleet workspace, that's not possible and also using bot is not a good way for several reasons (many wikis even don't have interwiki bots. Mainly because BRFA process can be a headache) so I think the best way is doing it manually (you can put that table in a template so it would be easier to maintain and update across different wikis). -- Z 17:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
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The Chinese may intend to have an airlock in the Core Module or on one of the Laboratory modules. In regards to the accuracy of the image hosted on their English page, the Shenzhou spacecraft aren't shown with solar panels, the Luch-like antenna is shown being used as a RMS and the station looks nothing like any of the descriptions or images released these passed few years. Not sure if this was ever even a design because it looks like something a graphical artist tossed together.
What program are you using to to make the image? I recommend using these images as reference. Image 1 Image 2 Image 3 Image 4. Although for some reason in those images no docking mechanisms are depicted, so I recommend using this image as a reference for the docking mechs.-- Craigboy ( talk) 08:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict)
I'm using a variety of art software, did you have some data files that may help ? The image I want to make next for the CSS is going to show the modules, and I guess that has the added advantage of having component images for the mod articles themselves. Although the twin science ROS mods have me itching to make an anim of them dumping the last stage of the proton and unfolding their panels, I think that'd be so cool, and a fast explanation to do as an image rather than text. P
That first image you link to is brilliant, I hadn't come across that one, I like it as it is on their site. I don't like the ray tracing stuff, I prefer real textures from real images though, which is what I'll do. Also I might add some nondescript minor furniture, which is always the difference between raytracing and final photos of the real thing. The CCM looks like it has two parts, like a NM is separate from it. P
re the dm, I don't think I'll get into that much detail, it's just an impression, I don't think anyone will use wikipedia pics to build their own space station :) I was going to pretty much copyclone the Zvezda pics for the NM end of the mod, and the NM article too. I was wanting to ask you first about the NM as I want to get the mechs right, and I figure you can point me to some pics of the mechs they will use on the NM, or just to match them up by telling me which places on which mods have the same ones. It'd help that little extra with the accuracy. I think you're the undisputed (well, sometimes disputed :) sorry) expert on docking mechs. P
Thanks for the kind words! However, space science is not really my knowledge area so I think I can contribute more effectively to Wikipedia in other areas. Acadēmica Orientālis ( talk) 08:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey Penyulap, when proposing a merger you should follow this guideline. It tells you all the steps for proposing a merger and making sure it gets listed. I know it can be complicated to propose one of these (I have done a few myself), but it is the best way to do it.-- Navy Blue84 12:46, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Yep, that was a mistake and that's why I've often said I'm not much of an article writer as I make too many silly mistakes like that. To have a reasonable chance of not making mistakes like that I'd probably have to read over something at least a couple of times several hours apart and wikipedia, by it's nature, makes that difficult. Dpmuk ( talk) 05:18, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
I will happily admit I don't enjoy that bit much. The bit I do find rewarding and sometimes enjoyable is investigating a complex case only to find we don't have a problem, for example when they copied from us. I enjoy the challenge of proving this and it's also nice to have worked out that we can keep an article. Unfortunately taking the rough with the smooth comes with the "job". Dpmuk ( talk) 06:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi. I'm not sure what this edit summary meant. Your "bot" created a new template and said it was "updating" something. Also, did you pass it through the bot approval group? Killiondude ( talk) 08:16, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
and I'm sure that you meant well in this edit, but unless you had this particular editor's permission, there was no need to correct their spelling in a talkpage post. If you did have permission, then that's all cool. Thanks, Shearonink ( talk) 13:46, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
I just wanted to tell you about the fact that there is a project under way to build a sort of Commons but instead of pictures it would be for data which could be used in a similar way that pictures are now. From what I understand tables will be one of the first things that can be uploaded. link:). Thanks for the note BTW -- U5K0'sTalkMake WikiLove not WikiWar 10:04, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
It seems the category does exist. I don't spend much time on my user page. I would rather invest it in other areas of WP, but others can see that I am a tradesman now.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 05:09, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
your objections in the Rfc on Mohamed Images is not valid... you keep asking for clarification between calligraphy and figurative images---figurative images is used in the RfC to describe images of a person depicting Mohamed. So you are asking for what is already there.--- Balloonman Poppa Balloon 20:05, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Hello. Your signature in the Russian WP contains interwiki. Put a colon before the language code ( 1).
Make do so in all language sections, where you have a so signature. Thank you. Sorry for my english.-- 178.123.139.182 ( talk) 00:10, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok Penyulap, thanks for the reply. Well I tried to design the Infobox on the Talk page of Wikiproject Space flight but it does'nt appear. A set of things that I suggest are already as a table in Article:Poisk(ISS Module). But I found that there are Infoboxes for a few Mir Modules like Kvant-1,etc. But these infoboxes are not there for Kvant-2. Zvedza ISS Module has an Infobox for a space station.
Orbital tug means not only the name. It means size, weight, Deorbit Date and other things. So with a module which has a Orbital tug it should be like this(eg : Poisk) Orbital tug= Progress M-MIM2(Progress M-SO2 Orbital tug weight=7,102 kg(I don't know if it is Orbital tug+Poisk) Orbital tug type=Progress M modified Orbital tug decay date= 8 dec 2009
I just got angry after no reply for three days so that is why I just Blurted out the situation .But again thanks for the reply. -- Monareal ( talk) 10:19, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
I stopped that downlink Succsessor. Ok But mir modules?They are in a mess.I left a Question about it on a thing called Teahouse in Wikipedia.This teahouse is for asking questions about Wikipedia. Here is the answer I got: I think the simple answer to your question is there are different ways of presenting the same information and the various editors who have compiled these articles about Mir and its modules have gone about it in different ways. One of the ones without an infobox, for example Kvant-2, may look better with an infobox or it may not. The only way to find out is to try, if you don't like the result you can undo your edit. If you like the result leave it, the worst that can happen is that somebody else doesn't like it and undoes what you did. If that happens, don't get upset or angry but ask them why they think the other way is better and see if you can find common ground between you. NtheP ( talk) 07:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)You see Kelphin and I never thought that!
Ok, another user left a comment saying there was a infobox for it in wikiproject spaceflight under the section . But I did'nt like it . Moreover , It is not used for ISS modules. I gave him a message. I think WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT MIR MODULES FIRST. You too can be a guest at teahouse. Mir modules should be also thought about. Making infoboxes in the belief that the mir module infoboxes are to be ignored is not a good idea. Somebody may delete our infoboxes telling the Mir module infoboxes are there. Thinking about the other space module infobox is also another Compolsory thing. I will give you the comment he made there: There's one already: Template:Space station module. User: SalopianJames 20:35, 29 March 2012 (UTC) Sent the reply to my talk page-- Monareal ( talk) 11:16, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
-- Monareal ( talk) 11:26, 30 March 2012 (UTC) Reply to me before 13:09 UTC-- Monareal ( talk) 11:45, 30 March 2012 (UTC) Ok then 23:59 UTC is enough.Now here the time is 18:08 -- Monareal ( talk) 12:38, 30 March 2012 (UTC)Indian Standard Time you know running 05:30 hours more than GMT.-- Monareal ( talk) 12:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Ok then, Good Night for you!-- Monareal ( talk) 12:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap It is a disaster!-- Monareal ( talk) 13:10, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap look at this my conversation between SapianJames and me: '''''''I like a new one. Morover it is not Used in ISS Modules.--Monareal (talk) 05:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC) Don't make a new one, improve the current one! If it's not used where it should be, insert it! There's no need for pointless duplication... SalopianJames (talk) 07:37, 30 March 2012 (UTC)''' !-- Monareal ( talk) 13:59, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Saturday 30 March(MNB): It has been Double Chaos for User:Monareal as his attempt to secure a Infobox for ISS Modules is at a dead move. He was given a reply by an user( User:SalopianJames) that there was an infobox and instead of making duplicacates , modifi=y the existing. All his plans are foiled. Monareal News Board News-- Monareal ( talk) 15:54, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
HAPPY DEATH ANIVERSERY!NYAN ETU KETU CHATTU!DAIVAME!
CHATTA PATIKAL VANNE ENNE KONNNU! EMAIL:Ronie4th@gmail.com or CHAATTA PATICAL@ GMAIL.COM
Penyulap ☏ 10:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
WRITTEN IN MANGLISH:English+Malayalam
Seri,Eni Mir Osman Ali Khanugute Chaganam.Ayyo Parayan maranopoyi! Etum MANGLISHA!O seri! Se! Chatta Pattikal Kollan ene varomo -- Monareal ( talk) 11:28, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
You Know what is malayalam?-- Monareal ( talk) 11:41, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Excuse Me,I know you are a Wikidragon but are you a Human?-- Monareal ( talk) 11:43, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I am human, I don't know many India-area languages, I'm not too familiar with Malayalam. Penyulap ☏ 11:46, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap Emergency messages are under ISS Modules Infobox!-- Monareal ( talk) 14:09, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap send your messages to one page. I can't search Each and every page for your messages.-- Monareal ( talk) 03:47, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I know about watchlists. I use them too.-- Monareal ( talk) 09:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
HAPPY DEATH ANIVERSERY!ORO PATTIKAL ENE PINNEYUM KONNU. AIYOO ATE ETU POTTAN.UN READY.PAPPADAM READY.KADALA READY.GOAT READY. MEALS READY.ETUM MANGLISHA!-- Monareal ( talk) 09:34, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
I did not understand.-- Monareal ( talk) 10:49, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
Stop before calling James,see what is up.-- Monareal ( talk) 11:18, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
A smile for you
You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.7.109 ( talk) 22:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC) |
Monareal News service info: Ok I agree not to duplicate but I will have to fully reorganise it.That means I should completly format and add our suggestions. I don't know if James would like it. |
Monareal News service info: Ok THE CHANGES ARE THAT, I WILL COMPELTLY DELETE THE ENTIRE INFO IN IT NOW AND THEN WRITE MY INFO INSIDE IT. |
Ok dr Penyulap here is it
-- Monareal ( talk) 07:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC) Old one
| module = Example Station
| module_image = Example.png
| module_image_size =
| module_image_caption = This is the first example caption.
| NSSDC_ID = 2000-000A
| station = EXPL-01
| launch = January 1, 2000
| launch_vehicle =
Proton rocket
| docked = January 10, 2000
| undocked = December 1, 2010
| reentry = December 31, 2010
| mass = 200,000.0 kg
(440,924.5 lb)
| length = 70 m
(229.7 ft)
| width = 60 m
(196.9 ft)
| height = 50 m
(164.0 ft)
| diameter = 55 m
(180.4 ft)
| volume = 600 m³
(21,188.8 ft³)
| stats_ref =
[1]
| configuration_image = Example.png
| configuration_size = 175px
| configuration_caption = This is the second example caption.
New one | Name = Example Station
| Image =
| Mission = Example 1 space station | Nation = Example Nation(eg:Uzbekisthan) | Organization = Example Organisation | Contrator = Example Contractor(eg:RKK Energia) | header = launch | launch date = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM:UTC | Carrier rocket = Example rocket | | launch site = Launch Pad 1, Example site, Example country | header = Pre-Docking period | free flight period = 11 days | free flight altittude = 1391 km | Pre-Docking operations = Example operation,sample operation | cargo carried = 1001 kg(1.001tons) | Regime = LEO | Inclination = 51.7° | header = Docking | Docking port = Example Zenith | Docking time = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM:UTC | header = Specifications | Designation = EZ155JK | Launch mass = 1200 kg(module),2811 kg(cargo)Total=4011 kg | Maximum hull diameter = 1.91m | Hull length between docking assembly planes = 3.00125m | Pressurized volume = 4.7009cu m | habitatable volume = 3.99099 cu m | Number of egress hatches (open inward) = 1 | Egress hatch diameter = 1.2m | Mass of delivered cargoes = up to 1296 kg | Depressurization alarms = 0 | False deprussurization alarms = 0 | Accidents = 0 | header = Orbital tug | name = example name | manufaterer = Example manufaterer | nation = Example nation | organization = example organization | Undocking date = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM | Decay date = DD/MM/YYYY HH/MM | header = undocking and reentry | undocking date = DD/MM/YY HH/MM | reentry tug = example tug | post-docking free flight = 2 days | decay date = DD/MM/YY HH/MM | fragments' landing site = example region, ocean, country, plateau ,desert ,etc }}
How is that?-- Monareal ( talk) 07:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Monareal News service info:Your are free to do anything with it and send the newly edited thing to my talkpage. |
Penyulap I did not understand what you did to theSpacestation Workspace-- Monareal ( talk) 08:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Ozmec News: Uh I don't understand what you did to the Space station workspace--
Monareal (
talk)
09:14, 31 March 2012 (UTC)Coutresy:Monareal News Board. |
The Special Barnstar | |
Thanks for helping me with the infoboxes. But I did not understand what you did in the workspace where I put my idea.It looks confusing. Monareal ( talk) 09:39, 31 March 2012 (UTC) |
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I am working on a new picture, I did some of the work needed, there is a list of new things on the template, the list of suggestions you made for new things, I have formatted the first few things of that list into the template language, if you have time, you can format the rest of the list, just follow what I did in my last edit to the page, repeat the same as my last edit where i converted two items, changing two into template text, removing them from the list of your 'homework' and adding them to the completed list. Penyulap ☏ 10:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Where have you formatted it into template language?-- Monareal ( talk) 10:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Tommorow I'd be spending the entire evening with the relative who will come from Hyderabad.I won't be active during te morning. By the way, if you have free time, can you do the remaining work? I'd sometimes only be active at night.If you finish the work tommorow,send a message to me saying it is done. Then I could know it is done. If it is incomplete,send a message to me saying it is not complete.If it is completed by tommorow,we can show it to Wikiproject Spaceflight on the 2nd of April-- Monareal ( talk) 11:52, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Hi Sarah, I have had a look, and like it, but the time resources outlined are quite steep for me. Penyulap ☏ 00:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap did you forget about the template?I too say time is running out. The last date is 6 April(I made it the last date.)-- Monareal ( talk) 04:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Huh?Writing manually? No templates?Did not understand what ya said.Were you writing automatically?Plan:Do the stuff and show it to me by tommorow?-- Monareal ( talk) 04:55, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm the teacher, you're the student, I'm not the one who does the homework, stop confusing me. Penyulap ☏ 08:40, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
You're chinese?-- Monareal ( talk) 05:10, 2 April 2012 (UTC) Penyulap, I think you know this. How to create User Suppages.-- Monareal ( talk) 05:11, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
To make a subpage search for User:Monareal/name of the new subpage and then follow the instructions. All this talk about my Chinese has made me hungry. Penyulap ☏ 06:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Dr Chinise Food, I ask your nationality.-- Monareal ( talk) 06:36, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Then you are... going to abandon the infobox?Then it will be..............
HAPPY DEATH ANIVERSERY!NYAN CHATTU!-- Monareal ( talk) 08:41, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap,
I have sent you a personal e-mail expalining why I revoked your changes - the e-mail contains information that I would prefer not to make public. Martinvl ( talk) 07:12, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Can I tell you one thing?I just don't know what the hell have you done in the workspace. It looks mad. Reply on my talk page.-- Monareal ( talk) 08:43, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
(edit conflict times 2)
I am in a ditch. Well, Barbosa ate the Barbarians who were about 1209 tons.1209 of them. These were on the menu
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Monareal ( talk • contribs) 08:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Never eat es cago!Never!Why?I recieved a warning with a picture let me see the picture. Oh my god!Is'nt that made of snails!Monareal Cartoon Dhamaka!-- Monareal ( talk) 09:08, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't know what the hell is this template language. Think I need Help from WD Graham. He's much experienced wikipedian. He has been on wikipedia for seven years.-- Monareal ( talk) 09:25, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
D'aww. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Answer the title-- Monareal ( talk) 06:07, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Did'nt Understand the thing but made a plan:You format it into template language. I'll make an microsoft Excel file which'll contain info about the modules. If you finish it tell a message.I'll send a message when I finsh my work. If you want, call other Wikiproject Spaceflight members to cooperate. Hurry, the last date is 6th April-- Monareal ( talk) 07:41, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
You just do what I say.Which article are you talking about?-- Monareal ( talk) 07:55, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I want to know which article.-- Monareal ( talk) 09:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I did half of that. The rest I'll do it later. Anyway ,do this for the Space Station Module Infobox:You format it into template language. I'll make an microsoft Excel file which'll contain info about the modules. If you finish it tell a message.I'll send a message when I finsh my work. If you want, call other Wikiproject Spaceflight members to cooperate. Hurry, the last date is 6th April-- Monareal ( talk) 10:25, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
I've reverted a couple of edits to User talk:Penyulap/M3 Project workspace because they broke the ISS talk page. I would recommend that you create a new workspace, as that page is transcluded into a couple of old discussions, and re-purposing it will cause problems there. -- W. D. Graham 11:45, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
You destroyed it?-- Monareal ( talk) 05:26, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
What are you saying?And what happened to the M3 Project Workspace? Show me the page where you found the error message and everything else. What a terrible bloodbath!-- Monareal ( talk) 06:18, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for your message. What I was referencing (with canvassing) was a practice that happens on Featured Picture Candidates (FPC) from time to time, where someone will nominate an image and then post somewhere else for all their friends to go support it. What this results in is a whole bunch of people supporting the picture, not because they reviewed it and found it to meet all the criteria, but because they have a vested non-neutral interest in promoting it. It's kind of like if you were electing a town mayor, and the next town over decided to all come vote for the guy nobody in your town liked, but because there were more people in the next town, they railroaded him on you anyways. For some reason, canvassing seems to be more common for picture candidates from certain geographical areas, the Middle East being one of those. So any time we see a whole bunch of new voters coming in to vote on only one image (one that usually does not meet all the criteria), it raises red flags. The reason for my comment about canvassing was that we had an influx of new voters on this picture. New voters aren't bad (I was a new voter once, too), but when they come, vote to promote one picture, and then leave, they're not being helpful.
On another note, I'd encourage you to stick around FPC. You bring a slightly different perspective, and once you brush up on the criteria and get an idea of what the quality level we're looking for is, I think you could make some valuable contributions. We haven't had any new regular voters in a while.
Clegs ( talk) 08:48, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Would this make a nice userbox?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 22:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
I expect parts of it would, small details are hard to see sometimes. I have technical difficulty extracting frames from oggs at the moment, but no trouble extracting from mp4's. Did you do the rendering and so forth ? That is impressive work. Penyulap ☏
Thank you. I built the whole thing from scratch in Second Life using open source vehicle scripts. I just rode it around and filmed myself. I was thinking of including a wikilink to the video inside the userbox. They can play the tiny version, or link to the full size.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 00:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
You can ride through your userbox over and over again until Christmas, with the countdown in the background, I can do that easy. Like "Santa doesn't stop for another 177 days" and then on Christmas he can stop, or stop and go in loops or whatever. Penyulap ☏
I used Machinima. Here is a better one I did:
If I change the song, it may pass copyright issues.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 01:13, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
I uploaded it to wikipedia. 1024x708 or I could just log into SL, and take some screen shots of it?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 21:42, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
(removed video, it doesn't seem to work properly, I will process the youtube version as an example)
File:Anim for Canoe1967.gif | This user made an Animation of a train |
Very good work. Is this one more accurate though?
File:Anim for Canoe1967.gif | This user made a CGI video of a train using Machinima. |
-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 04:46, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Here is the 2MB version, the reason it is still so large is the high framerate, and the nature of the shots, where the background moves. If the background (and camera) was still in each shot as the train moved, it'd be much smaller. also, the framerate could be reduced, I'm not sure how fast (smooth) you'd like it, it's at 100ms per frame in this version.
I think there are too many wheels running over the camera in this version, it makes no real difference to the size of the file though. The long trip across the bridge sucks a lot of bytes, it could be say 2x faster ? or shorter ? Penyulap ☏ 12:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Would it look too choppy if you just used the sections in close detail? You may have to fade frames then. Another plan would be to just use the best section and only a few seconds? I put the link to the full size video in the gif page if they want to see more. Less frames and normal speed may be best for the userbox, and we could even put a link to the main video in the user box?
Smooth and shorter is fine with me if that is what you mean. I have to go for 1-2 hours, so I will let you work on it.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 19:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I tried the ogg link-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 19:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
I ask you one thing:Why can't you use Electric engines other than steam engines?-- Monareal ( talk) 07:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
We may have a bad plan here. My sys seems to slow and howl every time I load a page with the userbox that plays the full video url in thumb size. Am I imagining this?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 08:40, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Find a 7 year old computer that has never had the dust cleaned from the fans like mine? It gives me an excuse to buy a smoke filled one. Computers run on smoke. When all the smoke comes out of all the holes, you need a new one.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 09:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
My comp has not much problems although it is 9 years old. I work on wikipedia by another laptop-- Monareal ( talk) 06:20, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Isn't there issues with vacuum cleaners generating static? I have thought about ubuntu. With the live cd, do I just set to boot from cd, and will it run all my windows programs?-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 16:47, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
I was thinking of the static built up while the vacuum is running, caused by the friction of two insulators (dust and plastic hose). I have seen industrial vacuum system sparks jump over an inch every few seconds when running. Would I need to get ubuntu versions of all my XP programs then? Some I paid for and all my install CDs disappeared one cleanup day. Would I have to boot with windows to run those or buy new ones? My computer has a 'press any key to boot from CD' on a timer now, and I know how to access the BIOS to change boot order etc.-- Canoe1967 ( talk) 17:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Hey Penyulap, thanks for letting me know about the new template and bot. I've already applied them to the Genesis I and II articles, in an interesting way (epoch date in the citation, which I think works tremendously well, save for the date formatting). I noticed, though, that the bot hasn't updated statistics for those articles in a couple of days...problem? — Huntster ( t @ c) 05:35, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
Show me the page!-- Monareal ( talk) 10:16, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
Where?-- Monareal ( talk) 14:43, 5 April 2012 (UTC) this space
Thank you for the image. If you have any other images, particularly images which might say "Christian" in some way without indicating any particular branch of Christianity, like maybe her with halo and wings, or maybe with specific individual denominational indicators, like maybe dressed as a Catholic or Orthodox nun, any such images as those would be welcome as well. I'm hoping to have some sort of "vote" next month for the Wikipe-tan to be used by the parent Christianity project, but that vote would largely be for the purposes of getting people actually involved in the project more than anything else. I very much imagine multiple images of various sorts, for all the multiple kinds of Christianity, would not only be welcome but probably rather significantly used. Thanks again. John Carter ( talk) 22:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi! I just discovered that I'm a WikiPrincess and I would love to give my opinion on your edits if you are still considered a WikiDragon. I'm friendly and just want to contribute my opinion on wikipedia. :) Thepoodlechef ( talk) 04:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Where have you left the note?-- Monareal ( talk) 08:00, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
EDA!Evide ada at ezuthiyirikunathe!--
Monareal (
talk)
08:01, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Your Highness of the the throne of Faulkland Kingdom, King of Britain, Crown Prince to the Sultan of Turkey, King Of New Spain, Emperor of the third french Empire, President of the Salute Republic of Kazakhistan, , President of the Republic of Uzbekistan ,Gen of Uzbekh National Army, Dr Sir Penyulap VIII George VII Al Baz I Santos Manros Marinos IV Napoleon IV Hased John Lord Alfech, Wellington I ask your Honour that you shall complete all the infobox work by tommorow,Sir.-- Monareal ( talk) 15:20, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
I think one thing is left:Format it into template language-- Monareal ( talk) 04:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't do graphics. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 18:03, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
This user no longer requires hardware to login to the WikiMatrix.(can be customized) |
I just made another userbox, I had no idea about this until an hour before it was finished. What do you think ? To add the userbox to your userpage, you cut and paste this text to your userpage
{{User:Penyulap/UBX/PenMatrixLogin}} Penyulap ☏ 08:33, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi there Penyulap. Regarding PALZ9000's updating of the ISSIB template, could you please use a more informative edit summary than "Nothing to see here) move along please (nothing to see". Thanks, - Kingpin 13 ( talk) 14:51, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap, would it be possible for the bot to add a comma between day and year to the access1 and access4 parameters for proper MDY formatting? — Huntster ( t @ c) 21:14, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
You!!!!!!Did you forget about the infobox?Hurry up!It is going into shambles! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monareal ( talk • contribs) 12:05, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Edo!Chinese ezutate vellavum cheye!-- Monareal ( talk) 17:29, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
Edo! Pani cheye!-- Monareal ( talk) 11:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC) De avande kutti adichu potichu.
Monareal News service info: A 8.6 earthquake strikes Banda Aceh, Indonesia. 28 countries have been given tsunami warning. By now, the tsunami warning has been reduced to an alert. An 6.5 magnitude aftershock is felt in southeast India and Banda Aceh. On 4:16 IST another aftershock happened in India. I did not feel any of the tremors, including the main one. It is reported to have been felt in India. |
I've never been on my laptop during any of these earthquakes.-- Monareal ( talk) 11:41, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
Post it on the main page--
Monareal (
talk)
11:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
-- Monareal ( talk) 12:01, 11 April 2012 (UTC)Another Tsunami alert after another 8.5 strikes Banda Aceh
What lesson? You should know how people survived there. That time(2004) I was just smaller than a poonch. Anyway we are in Thiruvananthapuram, IND which is about 1900km away from the main epicentre. The tsunami warning has been extended for 2-3 hours. It is almost 6 here. We are about 6 km from the coast. Electric power is lost in Banda Aceh-- Monareal ( talk) 12:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
You did'nt respond to this: That time(2004) 'I was just smaller than a poonch. Anyway we are in Thiruvananthapuram, IND which is about 1900km away from the main epicentre. The tsunami warning has been extended for 2-3 hours. It is almost 6 here. We are about 6 km from the coast.' Anyway, eyewitnesses in Aceh Province quote that waves have gone about 10 metres from the coast. Our Chief Minister Oommen Chandy says there is no need for people to worry but he and a few other district collectors have required people to stay in office for 24 hours. Currently, the tsunami alert is 99.9% lifted. -- Monareal ( talk) 12:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
The People of the Indian Coast (I had not) , Coastal People's Republic of China, Malayasia, Singapore had felt Earthquakes already in (about) 2 o clock IST and 4:16 o Clock IST. Anyway no tsunami waves reached Aceh or anywhere else in Sumatra or Indonesia and its neighbours-- Monareal ( talk) 12:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
The Laughing Nutter | |
…you're one of the most stubborn people here on wiki (welcome to the club, /o\ :) and i actually enjoyed ← great monstruosity reading some of your *humorous* comments at WT:WPWPA . I thought of paying you in cupcakes but then your talkpage would have been littered ^^ so here's a nutty laughpoint. Strive! benzband ( talk) 18:23, 11 April 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you, and do please feel free to trash my page, please be a slave to your whims with no regard for order. Penyulap ☏
…so here's some Bento!™ | |
Because people keep giving you indigestible cookies and the likes :P and we can't have our fellow 'pedians starving. Let me share this with you… OOPS, DINNERTIME, gotta GO! (i've got some little red gnomes on the fire) benzband ( talk) 15:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC) |
King Sir Lord Earl Dr Lt Gn Col Penylap VIII Please finish the work in the infobox. I no student and you no teacher.
Mach Keto?-- Monareal ( talk) 12:13, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
I no Kidding and you no work. Just finish off the work without kidding or bidding. No time for jokes-- Monareal ( talk) 12:43, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
....and another 5.3 aftershock off Sumatra. Penyulap ☏
Just***********And do the work-- Monareal ( talk) 17:18, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
Just ******************** and finish the infobox. And finish that by 17 April 2012. I dont know what to do with that. That is why I ask you to finish it-- Monareal ( talk) 11:27, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
You know User:Monareal/spacestationworkspace?And I have 30099897786762665tons of work in wikipedia along with 52625622222222222222222222222222222222222222533333333333333333333332653726826374368756348753638tons to do personally?-- Monareal ( talk) 11:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
In honor of Fahd of Saudi Arabia ,President Anwar El Sadat and Mir Mahboob Ali khan of Hyderabad State | You have been presented the 1st Arabian Special Award for April 14 2012 for your respectable, notable and needed work in wikipedia in the Imaginary Venue of Cairo International Stadium, Cairo. Monareal ( talk) 11:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC) |
And I here was thinking these:
Whom to give this award tommorow(April 15 2012)
Username | Contributions | Your Choice | |
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User:WDGraham | 42(from April 9) | ||
User:POISK-300 | 4(from 2011)(I mean he knows to do edits well) |
And visit this: User:Monareal/Progress Workspace 1Make your comments-- Monareal ( talk) 13:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
well, I think you could make POISK-300 a bit funnier really, as he hasn't done much. You are rather funny, so I see no reason why you can't improve him. Penyulap ☏
And now he has done more than 10-- Al Sheik!Woiu! ( talk) 18:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
Your signature seems to be lacking timestamps. This creates a problem because archive bots look for timestamps in signatures to know when a thread should be archived as well as just helping readers when viewing a discussion in general. Please make the appropriate fixes. Thank you. Killiondude ( talk) 05:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
And Dr Penyulap, Never forget User:Monareal/spacestationworkspace.-- Al Sheik!Woiu!I do not fish! ( talk) 05:32, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok Mir Osman Ali Khan, but you Oh Asaf Jah VII, the Nizam who lost his throne towards the Indian Union shall be understood that the workspace data can be SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT from the DRA I drafted away the PT , AB and MNO. If you did'nt understand the data I put in a box on that page, Ok?-- Al Sheik!Woiu!I do not fish! ( talk) 05:30, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Template:Rtnews has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Dirk Beetstra T C 05:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah and to see that click this link Mir Almaat Wikipedia Station 1 -- Mir Almaat 1 S1 (previously Monareal) ( talk) 08:01, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
You are invited for discussion for the proposed Wikiproject ISS. The discussion page is this page |
Not all comments added to a discussion need an added indent -- users actually only add one indent to the comment they're replying to. See Wikipedia:Indent. I'm mentioning this because of these: [4] [5]. Don't edit other people's comments, including the way they've chosen to indent them. There's usually a reason they chose their particular indents, and even if it seems they made a mistake, it's not a good idea to try and correct them as you see fit. Just leave them alone. Thanks. Equazcion (talk) 08:02, 24 Apr 2012 (UTC)
Penyulap, I see that you have not reacted to ANY of only MY messages to you. Please reply to this Now visit User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/spacestationworkspace. —Preceding undated comment added 12:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC).
could all be dumped, and you could consider including mission, like "docking module" "laboratory" some modules have both, so there'd also be "main engines" "bridge" "cargo bay" "fuel storage", things like that for other modules. It looks quite flexible which is great as well, so it can adapt to the other modules as well. It's good work. Penyulap ☏ 12:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I've added main engines and a few other things I thought would be useful. I did not remove accidents and depressurization alarms although I removed a couple of things. I did not add bridge, laboratory, cargo bay and fuel storage as none of those is mentioned in the Poisk article. I've darkened the background of headers as they look too light.--
RDF Energia
(talk:Nordak Island Communication Station)
05:31, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I've proposed for wikiproject ISS too.-- RDF Energia (talk:Nordak Island Communication Station) 07:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
You have not told anything.-- RDF Energia (talk:Nordak Island Communication Station) 05:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
That's not what I mean about engines, I mean different modules have different missions, for this one, it would be like this:
By all means include what you like, I just foresee that it would be a target of criticism as it is a parameter that does not vary a great deal from one module to the next, so it's not the kind of thing to have in the infobox, same with accidents as there have been no accidents on any module. Penyulap ☏ 07:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Do all your edits and put the infobox on User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/Infobox Workspace 2 Buuu hu ! Hu!Huu!Buuaho!Ahu!Buuu!Huhu!
Buuuuuuuuuuu!Hu Hu!-- DSRAB Yo Man ☏ 12:18, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Don;t cry sir, I know tommorow Progress M-14M will die.
Tommorow is the Funeral.Buuuuuuuuuuuu HuHuHu!! RDF Energia | ☏ 06:28, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
And I've look at this User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/Infobox Workspace 2 RDF Energia | ☏ 06:29, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Graveyard at Pacafic Ocean I've wanted to dive into that spacecraft graveyard to see and excavate from Progress-1-Progress M13M Any look at this User:Mir Almaat 1 S1/Infobox Workspace 2 —Preceding undated comment added 06:41, 27 April 2012 (UTC).
We've tons of Work to complete. Mir Almaat has set up a deadline of 1 January 2013. That's definetly a lot of time,but i'll be semi-active from 26 may. What is the temperature in your place?Anyway do your edits and put on the workspace and I'll take a look at it do comment on it. You are free to do anything on me, including editing my userpage. RDF Energia | ☏ 10:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes and just do your edits and tell me when it is finished. RDF Energia | ☏ 11:03, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
andyom vareyum ene kaval chetituvan andi
CBAGFEDC CBAGFEDC Amen! Andyom vareyum!
This is what is going on at the spacecraft cemetery. RDF Energia | ☏ 04:58, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Dr Penyulap ? RDF Energia | ☏ 05:32, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
The Editor's Barnstar | |
For Your Role in the establishment of the Government of Korilos(I mean your Edititing makes a fine structure like a government at both Workspaces) Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 06:48, 28 April 2012 (UTC) |
And what does PALZ9000 do?-- Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 07:29, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Sef Otshef Weimark Ahgg Bismack Ji hu ft u hgf yyh yhha hhhhaf jjkf hhaf ggs Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:41, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Isvol!Isvol!Isvolllllllllllllllll! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
And I had a chat with palz Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:50, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
And Progress M-14M was buried at 1 o clock GMT Today. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 16:09, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I am simply beside myself on trying to understand what it is that you are trying to express with your concerns about the Dragon spacecraft. If you are trying to propose a reorganization of the article, would you at least say that in your comments? Short pithy answers which are personal insults don't work very well and tend to make consensus in developing an article impossible.
If you have a legitimate concern with this article, I want to know what you are looking to see changed. The way you raised the question on the talk page made it sound like you were making a question more appropriate for the reference desk rather than something constructive in building an article. I still don't completely understand what you are confused about, or if you really are trying to find some information. Please explain clearly, in English (or in your native language if you can't write in English very well) just what you are looking for. -- Robert Horning ( talk) 21:19, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Few other spacecraft pages link back to their launch sites. The current standard is spacecraft/payloads link to their launcher, and then the launchers link to their launch sites. Sometimes, particular missions get their own page, in which case the mission page links up the launcher, launch site, and spacecraft/payload. If you'd like to see this changed, perhaps bring the issue up in Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight so we can change this across all spacecraft or lists of launches. -- IanOsgood ( talk) 01:26, 29 April 2012 (UTC) (P.S. I didn't appreciate your argumentative tone in this discussion. You came across as rather juvenile and hotheaded.)
Saying "This is so cool," and "I love it," when you actually mean to criticize something for being the opposite = sarcasm. Unless you actually do love the way this feature is implemented and think it's cool; but then, I doubt you'd see a reason to go "complain to your congressman" about it -- which is again sarcastic, unless you're actually considering that, in which case we have a different problem.
Be more choosey about the volume of sarcasm you dump into a post. People will appreciate and be more likely to offer constructive feedback on your posts if they don't see you being so incredibly flip and obnoxious about your (apparently serious) concerns. Equazcion (talk) 01:19, 29 Apr 2012 (UTC)
Monareal News Service Info:Progress M-14M was buried at 13:26 IST yesterday, at the Mongerier Spacecraft Cemetery in the Pacafic and prayers were held at the Fernando Catherdral on the atlantic ocean where SuitSat-1. |
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 10:43, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I was at the St George Orthodox Cathedral which is about 11,000 km away.And it would take at least 9562 telephone towers to reach there. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:04, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
And what about the infobox? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 04:55, 30 April 2012 (UTC) I have been working on the ISS infobox, perhaps it will give you some ideas on what we can do for the modules, but I haven't put it in yet. Penyulap ☏ 04:59, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Excuse Me Dr Penyulap, But see this : Kvant-1 Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
And Think this was happening at Progress M-14Ms funeral? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:06, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
You are at the Pope's funeral!(John Paul II'S) And those whites are all Priests! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I cant login there, Use My talk page or this one and create the talk page Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:29, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
First thing:I like to chat to wikipedians in wikipedia itself. Second thing: I'm under age. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:33, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
We are speaking about work things!Not social networking!Well, I have 66616526152661625 tons to do on wikipedia and I thing you'll do the work at Novogrod Almaat Workspace. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
It is a workspace of my own and can we start discussions at User talk:Monereal?It has to be created. The doppelganger account is there but no talk page. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 06:15, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Hello! Penyulap,
you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the
Teahouse. An awesome place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us!
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat
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06:34, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
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Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 09:42, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 09:43, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 09:44, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 09:47, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Arent you caring about your talkpage? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 11:35, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
I'd send you a talkback 6 times. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 04:18, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello! Penyulap,
you are invited to join other new editors and friendly hosts in the
Teahouse. An awesome place to meet people, ask questions and learn more about Wikipedia. Please join us!
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You Penyulap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ 05:04, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
☏:trrrring!
☏:trrring!Penyulap! See!!What!!is above!!this section!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:11, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
☏:trrring!:The Teahouse invitation!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:19, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
☏ Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:32, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Nothing.11:36, 2 May 2012 (UTC) Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30)
{{ The grumpy award}} Ha!!! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:40, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Please comment on this or I will be flying in the air in an F-16 , ready to shoot you! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Dr tennie was there a day ago . Can I tell him in peace? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:04, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Is it time to edit the old infobox with the new one? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 06:05, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Which one, there are two here they have substantial differences. Penyulap ☏ 06:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
That is because I don't have 71% info on Pirs. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 06:47, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Click the edit button, and look which data sections I've abandoned and look at their label sections
label29 = launch date data29 = 24 December 1982
label40 = Reentry date data40 = You know that I don't know what to answer that label.
This is just an example. Not reality. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 07:08, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
No reply? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 18:09, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
Did you do what I told you? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 04:45, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
What the **** are you shouting about? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:29, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
Ok , Penyulap now look at this page. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 09:18, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
I read TF all the time... Is it generally accepted as a good source? I could be adding some of that stuff. Be——Critical 03:51, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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Sweet, I guess that's a 'yes' to my request. Penyulap ☏ 04:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I didn't want to write until the dust had settled a little. When I said thanks for the advice on my talk page I did not know that you had also written to ANI. So now here from me are the many many more thanks I owe you! Best regards, Eddaido ( talk) 12:41, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
"But meh, I can probably get over it by disliking you lot. :)" That made me laugh outloud. Not something that happens much when working on an encyclopedia. You seem so reasonable as an editor. Dang...what happened in your Wiki training...didn't you get the memo on fighting collaboration? ;)(I kid the Penyulap)-- Amadscientist ( talk) 23:09, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
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The Barnstar of Good Humor | ||
Your "Pesky Express" made me smile, which is pretty rare, as I'm disabled and often in pain. Thanks! INeverCry 03:06, 10 May 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you for your kindness and the barnstar too, it's given me tears of joy to know I have brightened up your day considering your circumstances. Penyulap ☏ 03:10, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I'd love to be a part of one of your's and Pesky's works. The rider idea is very creative,(no surprise), but I'm afraid it wouldn't fit me so well. My disability makes it hard to eat alot of the time (especially not anything that could go by the description of "tasty"), so those beautiful dishes would be such a tease... Maybe you could do something small just for my user page? In the end, talking with you is nice enough though. INeverCry 04:36, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I hope that helps a bit. If not, go with whatever you think of- I don't forsee being disappointed with anything you do, unless there were monkeys in it (I have a phobia for primates). ;) Anyways, I'm headed off to bed so I'll see you in the morning. INeverCry 06:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Monareal News Service Info: Progress M-14M was buried at 13:26 IST yesterday, at the Mongerier Spacecraft Cemetery in the Pacific and prayers were held at the Fernando Cathedral on the Atlantic Ocean where SuitSat-1 rests. |
I get the fonts I use here from Microsoft Works Word Processor on the drop down list. I think all these fonts are supported on wiki. As you can see I use AR Cena, AR Blanca, and Mistral, all of which come from MS Works. This means 100+ fonts, but let me know if you find others. INeverCry 00:53, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
I expected it to be the polar opposite of "sucks", and I wasn't disappointed! I had another idea for an animation:
A big tree. At the bottom of the tree is a hole. A little Alice comes walking into the picture and stops aside the hole. A little rabbit pokes out of the whole. They look at each other and the rabbit beckons to her. The rabbit disappears back down the hole, then Alice jumps or dives in.
I don't know if that's makeable, but I enjoyed picturing it in my head and writing it down...
As for Moore and the Others, I may be headed for a big expansion of one of those Others's articles, namely Mrs. Gaskell.
Thanks and more thanks for the present, and have a great weekend! (or atleast a decent one, which is what I'm trying for). INeverCry 19:09, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Well, I found a horse :) and added it to the Pesky express. I had not found a suitable horse and buggy combination, what do you think ? Penyulap ☏ 08:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Make my day a little more gothic? LOL! I used to be very active as an artist. These last few months I have been a bit ill (no need for any sympathy it's hereditary...I blame the parents. Bwahahaha.), I can't sit very long or stand very long sometimes, (or walk or lay down. It's Gout) and it makes it impossible (for obvious reasons) to drive or run sewing machines (foot peddle is impossible to control. I make different stuff) but since i haven't used a brush and canvas in years. I started a painting...of a Victorian Gothic Castle. LOL! I can stand or sit as needed a lot longer then just sitting and my foot isn't required to do anything. It's a very "halloween" looking image. Here is the subject. Preston Castle, in California. Thanks for the Donut of Doom! LOL!-- Amadscientist ( talk) 16:24, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
I laughed at the award. Love it. Only question: Is it the Donut or Doughnut of doom? Mmmm, juicy doughnuts, ahhh. Bgwhite ( talk) 18:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Just wondering if you're familiar with deviantart.com? I've been collecting works off of it for years. Here's the animations search: Deviantart.com gifs. INeverCry 01:27, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
I had commented out this part on the talkpage until it archived
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I apologise if you have become offended. It is common on Wikipedia for editors to make these warnings when they think they may be needed. It was not unreasonably for me to assume you were suggesting or, it may be percieved that your inferrence was that Deviant art was a good place to find animations for use on Wikipedia. There may well be, however the link you left also was to copyright violations that Deviant Art has not removed. It is common on Deviant art to recieve questions and/or warnings for copy protected works uploaded. Also since it is the very nature of collaboration on Wikipedia to work together telling another editor to "mind your own business" is irrelevant. It's all our business. And I would at least hope, if you were not aware of copyright policy on either sites that perhaps this was something to discuss or think about. Sorry Penyulap.-- Amadscientist ( talk) 05:41, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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You was trying to conduct "human test" but you not know is i am a cat! This is picture of me captured with webcam:
NO SCARE AGAIN!!! :P
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LOL, absolutely agreed ;-) benzband ( talk) 17:27, 16 May 2012 (UTC)"…the people of the United States of America are responsible for poor spelling in general."
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It may be hidden, but it's not hidden enough ! the ISS has a three year war that will inevitably lead to arbcom over ENG:VAR ! this is just the sort of armaments the soldiers would love to get a hold of. As for myself, I have precisely no idea what my browser spell checker is set for, and if that's not bad enough I have more than one computer (for art) and I think that they are set different. On the other hand, I should take an interest, I see there is the possibility of war breaking out over the spelling of 'diarrhoea'. Penyulap ☏ 17:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
well how about some nice mice pie ? Mmmmm yummy Penyulap ☏ 09:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I am taking a very long wikibreak for 1-2 years. Please remember the infobox. And finish the work. I've added to be decided to the parameters i don't know. Thank you. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I had an account. I can't login to that now. Remember, I'll be back only on 2013-2014 so please finish the infobox. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 11:12, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Mir Almaat 1 S1 is taking a long wikibreak and will be back on Wikipedia 2013-2014 |
And Just finish the infobox before Jan 2013. |
hi there!... the images I wanted to use were
Idea
Like the Indian Barnstar of National merit, or any other national merit barnstar...a barnstar for contributions to Commonwealth articles was what I thought.My plan was to replace the Indian flag with the Commonwealth flag.If it fits in nicely....very good.......or if you have any alternate ideas...please go ahead.... .. Strike Eagle ✈ 03:05, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Done, it's a messy image to begin with I think, however it's a quick fix, I would wonder if a laureate can be combined in place of the medal, it would look 100% better, but the politics I think may not be compatible. Penyulap ☏ 09:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Got it now.....really liked the image... .......just wanted to know if there are any chances of making it transparent of that blue colour...any chances? Strike Eagle ✈ 12:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
The Graphic Designer's Barnstar | |
For the Commonwealth Barnstar(Award)...thanks a lot man!... Strike Eagle ✈ 13:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC) |
Thank you !! Penyulap ☏ 13:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
see if it works now... Brendon is here 13:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Strike Eagle ✈ 13:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Did you mean to say the IP's logic was your own logic? Or the sockmaster's logic? (Caution: I seem to be denser than usual today.) ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:23, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
It seems you have a lot of energy to help decide matters, such as ANI reports and blocks of troublesome users. You might work well as a new admin. Perhaps this is a good time for you to submit an initial WP:RfA, to get direct feedback on where to concentrate, on the road to becoming a future admin. As I understand the environment, it is important to avoid future blocks, as each block will be hyped into "hideous, incorrigible behaviour" which would be cited, by many, as reasons to deny your adminship. However, with the feedback from other editors, you might gain adminship, later this year, and could work to improve the processes to investigate and judge the " WP:Gaming of the system" which many admins cannot catch during ANI-incident discussions. Things to ponder. - Wikid77 ( talk) 00:33, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
--Now, don't give it to me..please. Okay? Brendon is here 13:18, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you ! (sorry I stepped out for a moment) Penyulap ☏ 13:29, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
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If you would like to unblock someone where you see an error has occurred, you'd naturally start with WP:unblock, which says nothing about 3rd parties, and following the link to Wikipedia:Appealing a block you get instructions, nothing on a 3rd party, and that leads to the Wikipedia:Guide to appealing blocks, hmm, yeah, well nothing there either. So I popped an unblock template onto someones page, which is apparently not the way to do it, because as it has been pointed out, it goes on your own page. So, hey, enjoy !! Penyulap ☏ 22:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
it looks like a good project, but visually it kind of completely sucks :) some things spring to mind straight away, like anime, do you want like, a record player that goes round and round ? or like, a stereo with a L.E.D. bargraph that goes in time with (silent) music ? Penyulap ☏ 03:42, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the new friend. I've moved him to my user page because being of such a sensitive nature, I'm sure he'll find the air better for his emotional health, there.( Ill have to move him around later on so he has a better view. olive ( talk) 22:05, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
( talk page stalker) Actually, he hiccuped for 45 years. I rarely miss a Simpsons reference when I see it, especially one from the first 10-15 seasons. :> Doc talk 11:32, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
You're welcome! It's one of the best comedies of all time, due to the quality of the writing. This guy was particularly brilliant. Starting at season 4 is where it really became an undeniably classic show IMHO, right from the season opener. Now we're looking at a 24th season... amazing. Cheers :> Doc talk 11:53, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
I saw your comment
here @00:10, 25 May (UTC).
I reverted his changes and reported him on or before 23:55, May 24 (UTC) and he was already blocked by the time you last commented about him in the ANI at 00:12, May 25, 2012 (UTC).
Hence, as you wished, your notice at the ANI has been wiped. Just thought you should know, Brendon is here 05:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
Google translate 'helpfully' translated km into miles for me (the word not the actual number). Secretlondon ( talk) 23:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
I had to revert that to a pre-vandalism version; feel free to reinstate your change. 28bytes ( talk) 02:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I hereby invite you to review this essay that I wrote about welcoming new users (and any other essay of mine). Comment on it or add something if you will. Brendon is here 09:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap! PALZ9000 is almost 3 months old. I've wished to give him a few presents.
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Hope he(and you) like it! Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 09:50, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
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for some reason passing the ubx custom text doesn't work, I hope a stalker can help there, or with categories for my userboxes, or anything else, I'm always glad for techno-stalker assistance. For the time being it can be placed as-is on his userpage. Penyulap ☏ 17:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Not wishing to do so now on my own talk page, I thought it might be valid on yours :) Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 23:00, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
I see something has frustrated you, can I help you in any way? My76Strat ( talk) 23:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is " XfD Topic Ban for User:TenPoundHammer (Again)". Thank you. Andy Dingley ( talk) 18:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you opened. The thread is " XfD Topic XfD Topic Ban for User:Andy Dingley". Thank you. Penyulap ☏ 21:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
Rich
Farmbrough,
16:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC).
(she was a bit of a cunt in all honesty, see hitchens) Egg Centri c 16:02, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
Hi Penyulap - I ran across your Innocent prisoner's dilemma article (which I very much enjoyed), and noticed the "linkrot" tag at the top - so I ran that "reflinks" fix tool to change the bare URLs to templated data for the references section. If you're not happy with the results - feel free to revert my edits and I'll not be upset at all. Best of luck Chedzilla ( talk) 16:27, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
I can change the embedded text easily enough, and crop the image top and or bottom. I would guess you can easily edit the links, I think that red carpet could be members rather than articles, or not, there is also hall of fame, but neither are good for articles, they both suggest people. I guess you can go with an industry award name ? or make one up :) Penyulap ☏ 07:44, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
WilliamH ( talk) 21:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
[6] I LOL'd :) Equazcion (talk) 13:56, 1 Jun 2012 (UTC)
would you mind if we userfy this template? it seems to depend on stuff in your userspace. Frietjes ( talk) 20:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Got one - User talk:Dennis Brown#Youreallycan Egg Centri c 23:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're aware, but your edit to your userpage was fine, and that other guy was wrong to revert it. People post "fuck wikipedia" on their userpages every day. There's no rule against it. Equazcion (talk) 05:32, 2 Jun 2012 (UTC)
Seems like you wrote some fuck wp at your userpage. What is the problem? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Live audio? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
My Doppelganger(Mir Almaat1 S2) has recognized PALZ9000 has the Head bot of ISSIB template. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 08:14, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
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[7] I LOL'd :) Equazcion (talk) 13:56, 1 Jun 2012 (UTC)
would you mind if we userfy this template? it seems to depend on stuff in your userspace. Frietjes ( talk) 20:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Got one - User talk:Dennis Brown#Youreallycan Egg Centri c 23:37, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you're aware, but your edit to your userpage was fine, and that other guy was wrong to revert it. People post "fuck wikipedia" on their userpages every day. There's no rule against it. Equazcion (talk) 05:32, 2 Jun 2012 (UTC)
Seems like you wrote some fuck wp at your userpage. What is the problem? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:43, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Live audio? Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 05:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
My Doppelganger(Mir Almaat1 S2) has recognized PALZ9000 has the Head bot of ISSIB template. Mir Almaat Ali Almaat ☏ From Trivandrum, Kerala, India(UTC+5:30) 08:14, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
You have my most profound apologies for not having noticed your additional comments on the Wikipe-tan image. A baptism image might be very good, indeed. Also, FWIW, I do hope that, maybe in time, we might have some of the other religion projects adopt some sort of image of her. Although it is a bit of a stereotype, we might have her lifting the headcovering from a burka for an image for the Islam project, for instance. And I have always loved the colors of saris, and actually like any pictures of women in them. (I could make some sort of off-color comment in very dubious taste here regarding, for instance, livestock of some sort in saris, and am actually sorely tempted to, but will try to restrain myself.) I think we may start voting when this month's newsletter gets sent out, which I hope is tomorrow, but do think that there would probably be time to develop a "baptism" image if you wanted to. Having said that, my own comment was more about the bikini than the baptism in the image suggested by someone else. Thanks again for your efforts. John Carter ( talk) 19:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Interestingly File:Knowledge_English_EU_map.png includes Turkey (turns out "candidate countries" are included. Even more interestingly the svg version includes Iceland and not Turkey! Maybe encourage you to crack that SVG barrier...
Rich
Farmbrough,
17:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC).
Hi,
I think that you should remove in the user box the text : {{{{NAMESPACE}}:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/dmana}}
It should make disappeared the documentation and the userboxes about trains which are not necessary in this userbox. I did not dare to do that myself.
On your userpage, you should add some userboxes to present yourself. Like that :
What I am
|
There are more complex syntaxes. I use some of them. You can look at my user page. -- Tangopaso ( talk) 17:50, 3 June 2012 (UTC)