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Dear helpful colleagues,
I wanted to suppress all categories from being displayed at the bottom of my user page, so I coded |nocat=yes
in all my userboxes; however, I just noticed that the category for WikiGnomes has now reappeared, even though I have had {{User wikipedia/WikiGnome|nocat=yes}}
coded and working fine for quite some time. I tried with |nocat=true
but it makes no difference. Any ideas why only this category has now reappeared, and how to suppress it, please?
On a related matter, is there a way of suppressing all categories from being displayed on my user page by using a single template or command somewhere on my user page, so I can remove all these |nocat=yes
parameters from my userboxes?
Many thanks in advance for any assistance with this; it’s obviously not urgent.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 21:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
{{WikiGnome topicon|nocategory=yes}}
{{WikiGnome topicon|nocat=yes}}
|nocat=yes
parameters are doing is preventing the categorization of the page entirely - that is, it prevents you from appearing in the list at
Category:Wikipedian WikiGnomes. This pretty much defeats one of the main purposes of having these userboxes on your user page. The |nocat=
parameter is provided to avoid miscategorizing pages that should not belong to the category, but nevertheless have some legitimate reason for using the template. But that's not the case that applies to your user page.|nocat=yes
parameter as you suggested, and it worked a treat! Thank you also for the explanation, which reminded me I must make the effort of trying to understand how categories really work... I don't mind not appearing in the list: users who visit my user page can see the mushroom and the userbox anyway, and anyone interested in my contributions can witness my gnome-ish behaviour, as well as my anti-vandalism and content improvement/creation activities. Besides, what matters is what we do to improve our encyclopedia. As for explaining the desire to suppress categories: it is simply because I have so many userboxes that I prefer not to have their categories cluttering the bottom of my user page, purely for aesthetical reasons. Remember: I am an exopedian after all...
[Message text transferred to Template talk:Surrealism (14:19, 20 February 2020 (UTC))].
[Message text transferred to my Places in Finland project talk page. Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk)(become old-fashioned!) 13:30, 21 February 2020 (UTC)]
Hi Pdebee. I remembered you from the interactions we had for the Begotten article copyedit and I was wondering if you would like to help me out on another article that I've been working on.
The article, in question, is Roar. I have been working on this article for a long time and I wanted to attempt to bring it to Featured Article status. It has been copyedited two times, but I had made significant changes to the article since then. I'm thinking that it needs one more copyedit to fix syntax, and or misspellings, before I go ahead and submit it. So, would you do me the honor??
Yours truly, - NowIsntItTime( chats)( doings) 19:19, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi, interested in contributing some Wales articles for this?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:20, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
![]() |
The Copyeditor's Barnstar |
Thank you so much not only for copy-editing
Roar, but also for helping me fix up the article.
Your work has not gone unnoticed! NowIsntItTime( chats)( doings) 20:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC) |
![]() | |
Four years! |
---|
-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you once again, dear
Gerda!
![]() | This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
Dear helpful fellow editors,
I've been searching for: 1) the recommended placement, and 2) formatting, of the Awards section to include in articles on authors and academics, for example. I looked in
MOS:LAYOUT for any indication on where to place such a section but no joy there, and I couldn't find a guideline for the recommended formatting anywhere either (there doesn't seem to be a
MOS:AWARDS shortcut). So, I found an example in the article on
Hilary Mantel (who has received quite a few), although the article on
Ernest Hemingway is devoid of such a section altogether, which seems strange to me, as it is a featured article.
So, I will adopt the same format as shown for Mantel, but would appreciate any helpful pointers to such guidelines if they exist. Very many thanks in advance.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 17:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
In general, present a biography in chronological order, from birth to death, except where there is good reason to do otherwise. Within a single section, events should almost always be in chronological order. Have you considered opening a discussion on the article talk or the Wikiproject talk page? (A postscript about Hemingway: I know particularly prolific folk sometimes have a separate article, something like "Awards given to [person]". Not sure if Hemingway has such a page, but I thought I'd point out my observations.) Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 18:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Dear @
Rotideypoc41352,
Huon, and
Svetlana:
Thank you very much for your prompt and helpful comments; as you suggested, I have now posted a request at
the WikiProject Biography talk page, and we'll see what happens.
Very many thanks once more for your help to me here, and also for taking the time to volunteer at the Help desk.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 10:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your welcome and suggestions! AnnaMagnani2 ( talk) 13:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Dear Pdebee,
Can I ask you to take a look at this: [1], please? I noted that you updated many articles on Surrealism. My article about an Irish poetry press and magazine for Surrealist poetry, SurVision Books and Magazine, is currently in danger. This is the only small poetry press on the British Isles that specializes in Surrealist poetry, so I would appreciate it if you could take a look at it and maybe vote. Cheers.-- Bonmot ( talk) 07:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Notable means "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice." It is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance." Please consider notable and demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education. Large outlets are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability; however, smaller ones can be notable, just as individuals can be notable, and arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations, nor should they be used to provide blanket permissions for all articles about a certain subject.
It is not often that one media outlet will give neutral attention to another, as this could be seen as "advertising for the competition." Also, when searching for sources on media outlets, the results are often pages produced by the outlet, making it difficult to find significant coverage in multiple sources.
As media outlets are themselves a significant proportion of our sources for other content, however, it serves an important purpose for Wikipedia to provide neutral and verifiable information about those sources so that readers are able to evaluate their reliability and scope. Accordingly, the notability standards for media organizations and content are designed to be as inclusive, not restrictive, as possible within the bounds of verifiability in reliable sources.
Notability is presumed for newspapers, magazines and journals that verifiably meet through reliable sources, one or more of the following criteria:
::#have produced award winning work
- have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history
- are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area
- are frequently cited by other reliable sources
- are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets
[t]he Dublin Review of Books has remarked that it is "currently the only international magazine devoted exclusively to surrealist poetry." [1]" which, at an inclusive stretch, also meets criterion #3 and criterion #5, if we consider surrealist poetry a "non-trivial niche market".
References
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Dear helpful colleagues at the Help Desk,
Is there a way to disable the function that displays a drop-down window under the edit summary field, please?
Whenever I position the cursor in the edit summary field, this drop-down window shows me the previous edit summaries in reverse chronological order, and if I work on the same article for a while, the drop-down window grows longer.
I have looked at all the tabs in my Preferences, including Editing and Gadgets, but I can't find the box to check in order to inhibit/disable this function, assuming of course that this is possible.
Very many thanks for any assistance offered.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 15:55, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
![]() |
Thank you for article improvements in May, and your flower! - DYK my list of people for whose life I'm thankful enough to improve their articles? - I have a FAC open, one of Monteverdi's exceptional works, in memory of Brian who passed me his collected sources. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
today a composer pictured who wrote a triple concerto for violin, harp and double bass, in honour of the composer who died and my brother who plays double bass. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your part in bringing Australasian Antarctic Expedition to the Main page today, in memory of Brian. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
Dear helpful colleagues at the Help Desk,
Please would you help me hide the
Category: WikiProject Senior Wikipedians members information displayed at the bottom of my user page? Even though I coded the |nocat=yes
in the {{
Master Editor Userbox}} template, the category is still displayed at the bottom of my user page, which I prefer to have completely devoid of categories.
Very many thanks, in advance, for all your helpful guidance.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 21:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
nocat
parameter. I've fixed that up now so it understands that parameter, and your category has duly disappeared :) Hope that's helpful!
Naypta ☺ |
✉ talk page | 21:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for welcoming me and many other new editors! Just stopping by to let you know that your kindness is appreciated. Pupsterlove02 talk • contribs 14:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Perfect. Well done! I have enjoyed listening to this. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones ( contribs) ( talk) 15:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi Patrick, you will have seen that I have removed the hatnote from William White (New Zealand politician). I’ve had a close look as to whether the title could still be ambiguous but could not see anything. If I have overlooked anything, which is of course possible, please bring it to my attention. Schwede 66 18:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Pdebee
Thank you for creating John R. Buckmaster.
User:Buidhe, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
Nice article!
To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Buidhe}}
. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~
.
(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
( t · c) buidhe 06:27, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello Pdebee, It has been a while since we last talked. I and still getting the Begotten article up to FA status, but in the meantime, I have another article I am working towards that level also. It is an article on a 19th-century serial killer named Stephen Dee Richards, and I was wondering if you would be interested in doing some copy edits on it so I have it all ready for FA nomination? If not that is fine, feel free to let me know if that interests you or not. Sincerely, -- Paleface Jack ( talk) 18:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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Dear helpful colleagues,
I wanted to suppress all categories from being displayed at the bottom of my user page, so I coded |nocat=yes
in all my userboxes; however, I just noticed that the category for WikiGnomes has now reappeared, even though I have had {{User wikipedia/WikiGnome|nocat=yes}}
coded and working fine for quite some time. I tried with |nocat=true
but it makes no difference. Any ideas why only this category has now reappeared, and how to suppress it, please?
On a related matter, is there a way of suppressing all categories from being displayed on my user page by using a single template or command somewhere on my user page, so I can remove all these |nocat=yes
parameters from my userboxes?
Many thanks in advance for any assistance with this; it’s obviously not urgent.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 21:56, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
{{WikiGnome topicon|nocategory=yes}}
{{WikiGnome topicon|nocat=yes}}
|nocat=yes
parameters are doing is preventing the categorization of the page entirely - that is, it prevents you from appearing in the list at
Category:Wikipedian WikiGnomes. This pretty much defeats one of the main purposes of having these userboxes on your user page. The |nocat=
parameter is provided to avoid miscategorizing pages that should not belong to the category, but nevertheless have some legitimate reason for using the template. But that's not the case that applies to your user page.|nocat=yes
parameter as you suggested, and it worked a treat! Thank you also for the explanation, which reminded me I must make the effort of trying to understand how categories really work... I don't mind not appearing in the list: users who visit my user page can see the mushroom and the userbox anyway, and anyone interested in my contributions can witness my gnome-ish behaviour, as well as my anti-vandalism and content improvement/creation activities. Besides, what matters is what we do to improve our encyclopedia. As for explaining the desire to suppress categories: it is simply because I have so many userboxes that I prefer not to have their categories cluttering the bottom of my user page, purely for aesthetical reasons. Remember: I am an exopedian after all...
[Message text transferred to Template talk:Surrealism (14:19, 20 February 2020 (UTC))].
[Message text transferred to my Places in Finland project talk page. Patrick. ツ Pdebee. (talk)(become old-fashioned!) 13:30, 21 February 2020 (UTC)]
Hi Pdebee. I remembered you from the interactions we had for the Begotten article copyedit and I was wondering if you would like to help me out on another article that I've been working on.
The article, in question, is Roar. I have been working on this article for a long time and I wanted to attempt to bring it to Featured Article status. It has been copyedited two times, but I had made significant changes to the article since then. I'm thinking that it needs one more copyedit to fix syntax, and or misspellings, before I go ahead and submit it. So, would you do me the honor??
Yours truly, - NowIsntItTime( chats)( doings) 19:19, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi, interested in contributing some Wales articles for this?♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:20, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
![]() |
The Copyeditor's Barnstar |
Thank you so much not only for copy-editing
Roar, but also for helping me fix up the article.
Your work has not gone unnoticed! NowIsntItTime( chats)( doings) 20:03, 26 February 2020 (UTC) |
![]() | |
Four years! |
---|
-- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 09:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you once again, dear
Gerda!
![]() | This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
Dear helpful fellow editors,
I've been searching for: 1) the recommended placement, and 2) formatting, of the Awards section to include in articles on authors and academics, for example. I looked in
MOS:LAYOUT for any indication on where to place such a section but no joy there, and I couldn't find a guideline for the recommended formatting anywhere either (there doesn't seem to be a
MOS:AWARDS shortcut). So, I found an example in the article on
Hilary Mantel (who has received quite a few), although the article on
Ernest Hemingway is devoid of such a section altogether, which seems strange to me, as it is a featured article.
So, I will adopt the same format as shown for Mantel, but would appreciate any helpful pointers to such guidelines if they exist. Very many thanks in advance.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 17:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
In general, present a biography in chronological order, from birth to death, except where there is good reason to do otherwise. Within a single section, events should almost always be in chronological order. Have you considered opening a discussion on the article talk or the Wikiproject talk page? (A postscript about Hemingway: I know particularly prolific folk sometimes have a separate article, something like "Awards given to [person]". Not sure if Hemingway has such a page, but I thought I'd point out my observations.) Rotideypoc41352 ( talk · contribs) 18:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Dear @
Rotideypoc41352,
Huon, and
Svetlana:
Thank you very much for your prompt and helpful comments; as you suggested, I have now posted a request at
the WikiProject Biography talk page, and we'll see what happens.
Very many thanks once more for your help to me here, and also for taking the time to volunteer at the Help desk.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 10:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your welcome and suggestions! AnnaMagnani2 ( talk) 13:01, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Dear Pdebee,
Can I ask you to take a look at this: [1], please? I noted that you updated many articles on Surrealism. My article about an Irish poetry press and magazine for Surrealist poetry, SurVision Books and Magazine, is currently in danger. This is the only small poetry press on the British Isles that specializes in Surrealist poetry, so I would appreciate it if you could take a look at it and maybe vote. Cheers.-- Bonmot ( talk) 07:06, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
Notable means "worthy of being noted" or "attracting notice." It is not synonymous with "fame" or "importance." Please consider notable and demonstrable effects on culture, society, entertainment, athletics, economies, history, literature, science, or education. Large outlets are likely to have more readily available verifiable information from reliable sources that provide evidence of notability; however, smaller ones can be notable, just as individuals can be notable, and arbitrary standards should not be used to create a bias favoring larger organizations, nor should they be used to provide blanket permissions for all articles about a certain subject.
It is not often that one media outlet will give neutral attention to another, as this could be seen as "advertising for the competition." Also, when searching for sources on media outlets, the results are often pages produced by the outlet, making it difficult to find significant coverage in multiple sources.
As media outlets are themselves a significant proportion of our sources for other content, however, it serves an important purpose for Wikipedia to provide neutral and verifiable information about those sources so that readers are able to evaluate their reliability and scope. Accordingly, the notability standards for media organizations and content are designed to be as inclusive, not restrictive, as possible within the bounds of verifiability in reliable sources.
Notability is presumed for newspapers, magazines and journals that verifiably meet through reliable sources, one or more of the following criteria:
::#have produced award winning work
- have served some sort of historic purpose or have a significant history
- are considered by reliable sources to be authoritative in their subject area
- are frequently cited by other reliable sources
- are significant publications in ethnic and other non-trivial niche markets
[t]he Dublin Review of Books has remarked that it is "currently the only international magazine devoted exclusively to surrealist poetry." [1]" which, at an inclusive stretch, also meets criterion #3 and criterion #5, if we consider surrealist poetry a "non-trivial niche market".
References
![]() | This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
Dear helpful colleagues at the Help Desk,
Is there a way to disable the function that displays a drop-down window under the edit summary field, please?
Whenever I position the cursor in the edit summary field, this drop-down window shows me the previous edit summaries in reverse chronological order, and if I work on the same article for a while, the drop-down window grows longer.
I have looked at all the tabs in my Preferences, including Editing and Gadgets, but I can't find the box to check in order to inhibit/disable this function, assuming of course that this is possible.
Very many thanks for any assistance offered.
With kind regards; Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 15:55, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
![]() |
Thank you for article improvements in May, and your flower! - DYK my list of people for whose life I'm thankful enough to improve their articles? - I have a FAC open, one of Monteverdi's exceptional works, in memory of Brian who passed me his collected sources. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
today a composer pictured who wrote a triple concerto for violin, harp and double bass, in honour of the composer who died and my brother who plays double bass. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 15:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your part in bringing Australasian Antarctic Expedition to the Main page today, in memory of Brian. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 20:24, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can , contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse. |
Dear helpful colleagues at the Help Desk,
Please would you help me hide the
Category: WikiProject Senior Wikipedians members information displayed at the bottom of my user page? Even though I coded the |nocat=yes
in the {{
Master Editor Userbox}} template, the category is still displayed at the bottom of my user page, which I prefer to have completely devoid of categories.
Very many thanks, in advance, for all your helpful guidance.
With kind regards;
Patrick. ツ
Pdebee.
(talk)(become
old-fashioned!) 21:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
nocat
parameter. I've fixed that up now so it understands that parameter, and your category has duly disappeared :) Hope that's helpful!
Naypta ☺ |
✉ talk page | 21:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for welcoming me and many other new editors! Just stopping by to let you know that your kindness is appreciated. Pupsterlove02 talk • contribs 14:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Perfect. Well done! I have enjoyed listening to this. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones ( contribs) ( talk) 15:53, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Hi Patrick, you will have seen that I have removed the hatnote from William White (New Zealand politician). I’ve had a close look as to whether the title could still be ambiguous but could not see anything. If I have overlooked anything, which is of course possible, please bring it to my attention. Schwede 66 18:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Pdebee
Thank you for creating John R. Buckmaster.
User:Buidhe, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
Nice article!
To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Buidhe}}
. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~
.
(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)
( t · c) buidhe 06:27, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello Pdebee, It has been a while since we last talked. I and still getting the Begotten article up to FA status, but in the meantime, I have another article I am working towards that level also. It is an article on a 19th-century serial killer named Stephen Dee Richards, and I was wondering if you would be interested in doing some copy edits on it so I have it all ready for FA nomination? If not that is fine, feel free to let me know if that interests you or not. Sincerely, -- Paleface Jack ( talk) 18:05, 15 October 2020 (UTC)