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Hello Pbsouthwood: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, TheSandDoctor Talk 07:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Wishing you an amazing 2019. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 07:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Newsletter Nr 6, 2018-12-25, for
WikiProject Genealogy (and
Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
![]() Participation: This is the sixth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Wikipedia:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) Now 100 supportersAt 3 December 2018, the list of users who support the potential Wikimedia genealogy project, reached 100! A demo wiki is up and running!You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records. And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2019!
Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl. To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please remove your name from
our mailing list.
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Merry Christmas and happy new year! I was happy to see you have a successful RfA during 2018. I hope you will edit more happily in 2019 Hhkohh ( talk) 12:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Last issue, I mentioned there would be a flood, and so, here it is...
We now have 4,620 portals.
And the race to pass 5,000 by year's end is on...
Can we make it?
The New Year, and the 5,001st portal, await.
( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}}
or
{{subst:bpsp}}
)
After disappearing in mid-thread, Evad37 has returned from a longer than expected wikibreak.
Be sure to welcome him back.
User:FR30799386 is working on making {{ Portal image banner}} even better by enabling it to chop the top off an image as well as the bottom.
Many pictures aren't suitable for banners because they are too tall. Therefor, User:FR30799386 added cropping to this template, so that an editor could specify part of a picture to be used rather than the whole thing.
Work has begun on upgrading Wikipedia's flagship portals (those listed at the top of the Main page).
So far, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, and Portal:Technology have been revamped. Of course, you are welcome to improve them further.
Work continues on the other five. Feel free to join in on the fun.
In place of many missing portals, there is a redirect that leads to "the next best topic", such as a parent topic.
Most of these were created before we had the tools to easily create portals (they used to take 6 hours or more to create, because it was all done manually). Rather than leave a portal link red, some editors thought it was best that those titles led somewhere.
The subjects that have sufficient coverage should have their own portals rather than a redirect to some other subject.
Unfortunately, being blue like all other live links, redirects are harder to spot than redlinks.
To spot redirects easily, you can make them all appear green.
And I'll see you next issue.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 08:11, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Before, we could only cut off the bottom of pics.
User:FR30799386 has pulled it off, and made the upgrade to {{ Portal image banner}}...
So, this:
Becomes this:
Here's the code for the above banner:
{{Portal image banner|File:American Falls from Canadian side in winter.jpg | [[Niagara falls]], from the Canadian side |maxheight=175px |overflow=Hidden|croptop=10}}
To see it employed in a portal, check out Portal:Niagara Falls.
We were racing against time to create 5,000 portals by the end of the year (just for the heck of it).
We made it. We've passed the 5,000 portals mark, with time to spare!
And the 5,000th portal is Portal:Major League Baseball, by Happypillsjr.
Congratulations!
The 10,000th portal mark. But...
...there is plenty else to do in addition to building new portals:
And whatever else you can dream up.
But most of all, have a...
Pbsouthwood, thank you for your contributions to the Portals Project, and have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 12:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Rbsouthwood, Greetings to you. I just want to know the tag {{
short description|xxx xxx}}
and {{
SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
is the same thing and it will transport the information to Wikidata. I am adding short description to articles and would like to know which one is the correct format. Thanks for the advice in advance. Cheers.
CASSIOPEIA(
talk)
07:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
{{
short description|xxx xxx}}
as it adds useful maintenance categories. I am busy converting all the bare magic word versions {{
SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
which do not add categories and don't show up with the same scripts to the template version, so eventually there should not be any. I assume you have read the project page, but please feel welcome to ask and discuss if there are any points that need clarification and if you have any good ideas. Cheers, · · ·
Peter (Southwood)
(talk):
09:06, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
{{
SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
? or I could use this script and it will adds useful maintenance categories. This article
Dave_Grosz was short descripted using this script and shown short description on the hidden category. I just want to make sure I do the right things before using the script or I show just tag manually on each article using {{
short description|xxx xxx}}
. Thank in advance. cheers.
CASSIOPEIA(
talk)
16:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
{{
short description}}
template, so don't worry about that, it is part of the package and the reason why the bare magic word is deprecated. Cheers, · · ·
Peter (Southwood)
(talk):
18:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
@ CASSIOPEIA:, The gadget should show you a couple of lines of text at the top of the page in read mode, below the article title. For example, at Plebeian Council I see:
Wikidata: plebeian council (Q15056619), Ancient Roman assemby
Aliases: Comitia Plebis Tributa, Concilium Plebis, Plebian Assembly
The principal assembly of the ancient Roman Republic (Edit)
Another example, at Political institutions of ancient Rome:
Wikidata: political institutions of ancient Rome (Q2915100), no description given
Aliases: None
Missing article description (Add)
The first two lines are the item, description, and aliases at Wikidata, complete with link to the item at Wikidata. The third line is the current short description on Wikipedia
If you click on (edit) or (add) it should open a small editing window in the third line with the current short description and give the options (Save) and (Cancel)
Does this not happen for you? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
mw.loader.load("https://www.wikidata.org/?title=User:Yair rand/WikidataInfo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
(IIRC what that gadget did)
Galobtter (
pingó mió)
04:34, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).
Happy New Year, Peter!
Following on your suggestion that we should standardise on an initial capital letter, I think we could use the {{ucfirst:}}
"magic" function to force an initial capital letter without affecting the rest of the description, like this:
<div class="shortdescription nomobile noexcerpt noprint searchaux" style="display:none">{{ucfirst:{{{1|}}}}}{{SHORTDESC:{{ucfirst:{{{1|}}}}}|{{{2|}}}}}</div>
What do you think? -- RexxS ( talk) 19:55, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
There is now a clear consensus against the use of annotated links on disambiguation pages, due to their violating the formatting principles outlines in MOS:DAB, and providing different information than what is required for disambiguation. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Peter! How are you?
What's going on with (our) translation of scuba terminology on af:wiki?
Best regards & Happy New Year! -- Aliwal2012 ( talk) 06:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...
A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:
DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as with a section starter script and/or portal builder script.
There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.
DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.
Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.
Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).
Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 08:39, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello Pbsouthwood. The above two articles were flagged by the bot as potential copyright problems. Like a case I reported to you a couple years ago, the bot is picking up technical material that is difficult or impossible to summarise or paraphrase. Nevertheless I have done some paraphrasing and removal of content to reduce the overlap. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa 🍁 ( talk) 18:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
For a visually intensive portal, see Portal:Hummingbirds.
If you find any other portals that stand out, please send me the links so I can include them in the next issue. Thank you.
There are about 1100 portals left in the old style, with subpages and static excerpts. As those are very labor intensive to maintain (because their maintenance is manual), all those except the ones with active maintainers (about 100) are slated for upgrade = approximately 1000. We started with 1500, and so over a quarter of them have been processed so far. That's good, but at this rate, conversion will take another 3 years. So, some automation (AWB?) is in order. We just need to keep at it, and push down on the gas pedal a bit harder.
You can find the old-style portals with an insource search of "box portal skeleton".
Speaking of upgrades...
The following portals are listed in the header at the top of Wikipedia's Main Page, and get far more traffic than all other portals:
Of those, all but one have been revamped to an automated self-updating single-page design.
The remaining one, Portal:Mathematics has manual maintainers, and has been partially upgraded.
As these are our flagship fleet, they need to be kept in top-notch condition.
Check 'em out, and improve them if you can.
And be sure they are on your watchlist.
Keep 'em coming!
As you know, thousands of the new portals are orphans, that is, having no links to them from article space. For all practical purposes, that means they are not part of the encyclopedia yet, and readers will be unlikely to find them.
What is needed are links to these portals from the See also sections of the corresponding root articles.
Dreamy Jazz to the rescue...
Dreamy Jazz has created a bot to place the corresponding category link to the end of each portal (if it is missing), and place a link to each portal in the See also section of the corresponding root articles.
That bot, named User:Dreamy Jazz Bot, is currently in its trial period performing the above described edits!
To take a look at the edits it has made so far, see Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz_Bot.
It shouldn't be long before the bot is processing the entire set of new portals.
Good news indeed.
Way to go, Dreamy Jazz!
That's all I have to report this time around.
No doubt there will be more to tell soon.
Until then, — The Transhumanist 13:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
![]() |
The 2018 Cure Award |
In 2018 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs. |
Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | ← | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | Archive 16 | → | Archive 20 |
Hello Pbsouthwood: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, TheSandDoctor Talk 07:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Wishing you an amazing 2019. -- TheSandDoctor Talk 07:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Newsletter Nr 6, 2018-12-25, for
WikiProject Genealogy (and
Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
![]() Participation: This is the sixth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Wikipedia:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) Now 100 supportersAt 3 December 2018, the list of users who support the potential Wikimedia genealogy project, reached 100! A demo wiki is up and running!You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records. And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2019!
Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl. To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please remove your name from
our mailing list.
Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery |
Merry Christmas and happy new year! I was happy to see you have a successful RfA during 2018. I hope you will edit more happily in 2019 Hhkohh ( talk) 12:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Last issue, I mentioned there would be a flood, and so, here it is...
We now have 4,620 portals.
And the race to pass 5,000 by year's end is on...
Can we make it?
The New Year, and the 5,001st portal, await.
( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}}
or
{{subst:bpsp}}
)
After disappearing in mid-thread, Evad37 has returned from a longer than expected wikibreak.
Be sure to welcome him back.
User:FR30799386 is working on making {{ Portal image banner}} even better by enabling it to chop the top off an image as well as the bottom.
Many pictures aren't suitable for banners because they are too tall. Therefor, User:FR30799386 added cropping to this template, so that an editor could specify part of a picture to be used rather than the whole thing.
Work has begun on upgrading Wikipedia's flagship portals (those listed at the top of the Main page).
So far, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, and Portal:Technology have been revamped. Of course, you are welcome to improve them further.
Work continues on the other five. Feel free to join in on the fun.
In place of many missing portals, there is a redirect that leads to "the next best topic", such as a parent topic.
Most of these were created before we had the tools to easily create portals (they used to take 6 hours or more to create, because it was all done manually). Rather than leave a portal link red, some editors thought it was best that those titles led somewhere.
The subjects that have sufficient coverage should have their own portals rather than a redirect to some other subject.
Unfortunately, being blue like all other live links, redirects are harder to spot than redlinks.
To spot redirects easily, you can make them all appear green.
And I'll see you next issue.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 08:11, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Before, we could only cut off the bottom of pics.
User:FR30799386 has pulled it off, and made the upgrade to {{ Portal image banner}}...
So, this:
Becomes this:
Here's the code for the above banner:
{{Portal image banner|File:American Falls from Canadian side in winter.jpg | [[Niagara falls]], from the Canadian side |maxheight=175px |overflow=Hidden|croptop=10}}
To see it employed in a portal, check out Portal:Niagara Falls.
We were racing against time to create 5,000 portals by the end of the year (just for the heck of it).
We made it. We've passed the 5,000 portals mark, with time to spare!
And the 5,000th portal is Portal:Major League Baseball, by Happypillsjr.
Congratulations!
The 10,000th portal mark. But...
...there is plenty else to do in addition to building new portals:
And whatever else you can dream up.
But most of all, have a...
Pbsouthwood, thank you for your contributions to the Portals Project, and have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year.
Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 12:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi Rbsouthwood, Greetings to you. I just want to know the tag {{
short description|xxx xxx}}
and {{
SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
is the same thing and it will transport the information to Wikidata. I am adding short description to articles and would like to know which one is the correct format. Thanks for the advice in advance. Cheers.
CASSIOPEIA(
talk)
07:05, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
{{
short description|xxx xxx}}
as it adds useful maintenance categories. I am busy converting all the bare magic word versions {{
SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
which do not add categories and don't show up with the same scripts to the template version, so eventually there should not be any. I assume you have read the project page, but please feel welcome to ask and discuss if there are any points that need clarification and if you have any good ideas. Cheers, · · ·
Peter (Southwood)
(talk):
09:06, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
{{
SHORTDESC:xxx xxx}}
? or I could use this script and it will adds useful maintenance categories. This article
Dave_Grosz was short descripted using this script and shown short description on the hidden category. I just want to make sure I do the right things before using the script or I show just tag manually on each article using {{
short description|xxx xxx}}
. Thank in advance. cheers.
CASSIOPEIA(
talk)
16:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
{{
short description}}
template, so don't worry about that, it is part of the package and the reason why the bare magic word is deprecated. Cheers, · · ·
Peter (Southwood)
(talk):
18:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
@ CASSIOPEIA:, The gadget should show you a couple of lines of text at the top of the page in read mode, below the article title. For example, at Plebeian Council I see:
Wikidata: plebeian council (Q15056619), Ancient Roman assemby
Aliases: Comitia Plebis Tributa, Concilium Plebis, Plebian Assembly
The principal assembly of the ancient Roman Republic (Edit)
Another example, at Political institutions of ancient Rome:
Wikidata: political institutions of ancient Rome (Q2915100), no description given
Aliases: None
Missing article description (Add)
The first two lines are the item, description, and aliases at Wikidata, complete with link to the item at Wikidata. The third line is the current short description on Wikipedia
If you click on (edit) or (add) it should open a small editing window in the third line with the current short description and give the options (Save) and (Cancel)
Does this not happen for you? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
mw.loader.load("https://www.wikidata.org/?title=User:Yair rand/WikidataInfo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");
(IIRC what that gadget did)
Galobtter (
pingó mió)
04:34, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).
Happy New Year, Peter!
Following on your suggestion that we should standardise on an initial capital letter, I think we could use the {{ucfirst:}}
"magic" function to force an initial capital letter without affecting the rest of the description, like this:
<div class="shortdescription nomobile noexcerpt noprint searchaux" style="display:none">{{ucfirst:{{{1|}}}}}{{SHORTDESC:{{ucfirst:{{{1|}}}}}|{{{2|}}}}}</div>
What do you think? -- RexxS ( talk) 19:55, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
There is now a clear consensus against the use of annotated links on disambiguation pages, due to their violating the formatting principles outlines in MOS:DAB, and providing different information than what is required for disambiguation. Cheers! bd2412 T 22:57, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Hi Peter! How are you?
What's going on with (our) translation of scuba terminology on af:wiki?
Best regards & Happy New Year! -- Aliwal2012 ( talk) 06:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Well, here's the first issue of the new year. Enjoy...
A hearty welcome to new arrivals to the portals department:
DannyS712 has created a user script prototype, User:DannyS712/Cat links, that can pull members from a category, a functionality we've been after since the project's revamp last Spring. Now, it's a matter of applying this technique to scripts that will place the items where needed, such as with a section starter script and/or portal builder script.
There have been some discussions at Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines.
DreamyJazz is working on a bot to place links to portals on root articles, category pages, and navigation footer templates.
Portal bugs are getting dealt with soon after they are reported.
Lots of wikignome activity (using Hotcat, etc.).
Keep up the good work. — The Transhumanist 08:39, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Hello Pbsouthwood. The above two articles were flagged by the bot as potential copyright problems. Like a case I reported to you a couple years ago, the bot is picking up technical material that is difficult or impossible to summarise or paraphrase. Nevertheless I have done some paraphrasing and removal of content to reduce the overlap. Please let me know if you have any questions. — Diannaa 🍁 ( talk) 18:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
For a visually intensive portal, see Portal:Hummingbirds.
If you find any other portals that stand out, please send me the links so I can include them in the next issue. Thank you.
There are about 1100 portals left in the old style, with subpages and static excerpts. As those are very labor intensive to maintain (because their maintenance is manual), all those except the ones with active maintainers (about 100) are slated for upgrade = approximately 1000. We started with 1500, and so over a quarter of them have been processed so far. That's good, but at this rate, conversion will take another 3 years. So, some automation (AWB?) is in order. We just need to keep at it, and push down on the gas pedal a bit harder.
You can find the old-style portals with an insource search of "box portal skeleton".
Speaking of upgrades...
The following portals are listed in the header at the top of Wikipedia's Main Page, and get far more traffic than all other portals:
Of those, all but one have been revamped to an automated self-updating single-page design.
The remaining one, Portal:Mathematics has manual maintainers, and has been partially upgraded.
As these are our flagship fleet, they need to be kept in top-notch condition.
Check 'em out, and improve them if you can.
And be sure they are on your watchlist.
Keep 'em coming!
As you know, thousands of the new portals are orphans, that is, having no links to them from article space. For all practical purposes, that means they are not part of the encyclopedia yet, and readers will be unlikely to find them.
What is needed are links to these portals from the See also sections of the corresponding root articles.
Dreamy Jazz to the rescue...
Dreamy Jazz has created a bot to place the corresponding category link to the end of each portal (if it is missing), and place a link to each portal in the See also section of the corresponding root articles.
That bot, named User:Dreamy Jazz Bot, is currently in its trial period performing the above described edits!
To take a look at the edits it has made so far, see Special:Contributions/Dreamy_Jazz_Bot.
It shouldn't be long before the bot is processing the entire set of new portals.
Good news indeed.
Way to go, Dreamy Jazz!
That's all I have to report this time around.
No doubt there will be more to tell soon.
Until then, — The Transhumanist 13:14, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
![]() |
The 2018 Cure Award |
In 2018 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs. |
Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 17:41, 28 January 2019 (UTC)