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Paul,
Just a few questions - probably fairly obvious:
1) Who does Benny rate as the top American kickboxer of all time (all styles, all weights) apart from himself? 2) After Rob Kaman defeated Blinky was there any consideration that Benny would move up in weight to middleweight to take on Kaman? 3) Which country did Benny find his hardest opponents tended to come from e.g. Japan, Thailand, Netherlands etc.
Cheers. Hope the interview goes well. jsmith006 ( talk) 15:30, 10 July 2011
{{ helpme}}
Legkicker01 has reversed the corrections I made to Benny Urquidez's entry. Besides being inaccurate, I believe his language violates the original research and neutral POV rules. How do I appropriately address this issue?
Paul Maslak ( talk) 07:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I was having difficulty finding more than a handful of his matches. I am also trying to expand the records of many other fighters of that time such as Dennis Alexio, Branko Cikatić and Kevin Rosier. Any information on them would be much appreciated. -- WölffReik ( talk) 23:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Do you have any more info on this guys PKA title fights? I have managed to pin down about four but he's supposed to have defended this title over 20 years so I would assume he would have had more title defences. Also if you ever do a Rob Kaman interview please ask him when he won his I.K.B.F. world title (if he even won it) - it's been driving me crazy for the past couple of years. jsmith006 ( talk) 08:34, 17 July 2011
Wilson v Piotrowski was not sanctioned by ISKA. Their title was not at stake. However, under the rules for champions with most sanctioning bodies, if a champion loses a non-title fight or an unsanctioned title fight, you also vacate the original title. So when Don lost to Piotrowski, his ISKA title was vacated automatically; Don did not protest. The WKA title, however, was different. That title was at a lighter weight. Also, under WKA rules, when a WKA champion loses a non-title or unsanctioned fight, the champion's obligation is to stand ready to defend against that opponent in a WKA sanctioned title defense at the title weight. Don made himself available for such a rematch, but WKA promotional arrangements never came together. Don was living in Santa Moncia when this fight occurred, and I would see him fairly regularly. At the time of this bout, he had just returned from filming "Bloodfist" in the Philippines and had not been inside a gym for months. His first wife had thrown him out, left him with their infant son and filed for divorce. Don was literally living on a friend's living room couch with a baby in tow. He took the Piotrowski fight because he was temporarily desperate for cash to find an apartment and re-start his life. With all that, he lost to Piotrowski by a half point. Also, Don was without management at the time. Otherwise a protest and rematch might have been forthcoming. As it was, Don looked at that loss as a badge of honor for the sake of his son.
Same way Don looks at that underhanded behind-the-scenes fight-fixing loss in Thailand because, as Don says, he knew going in the only way he could win was by KO and he felt he should have KOed Samart even after the coerced last-minute 8-pound weight loss. That weight scam happened several more times in Thailand in that era with other Western fighters. A fight under those circumstances in the US would have been transmuted to a no-contest and the promoter would have been permanently shut down. People who are not close to the administration of ring sports do not understand what so much rapid weight loss does to a fighter: 1) It makes him exhausted from round one. 2) It interferes with his sense of equilibrium, making him unstable on his feet and much easier to knock down. 3) It minimizes the natural liquid shock absorber between the brain and the skull so that he becomes easier to knock out as well as very vulnerable to severe knockouts of the sort that could lead to coma or even death. 4) It flatters the lighter fighter who did not drop weight because it makes him look like a giant-killer.
Paul Maslak ( talk) 15:18, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Paul,
Have updated table - now on Don's wiki page. Have made all new titles inaugural so check to see if ok - think IKF and ISKA titles are probably for vacant titles as well established by then. Have also updated titles section. One question - 1991 Carmichael fight did Don 1) vacate his super light-heavyweight world title fight before taking on fight or 2) did he vacate the light-heavyweight title afterwards. CHeers. jsmith006 ( talk) 17:40, 21 July 2011
Paul - have updated Benny's fight record & titles in line with STAR records and have mentioned this in introduction to Benny's page. I have updated the top box to include his documented record & excludes the eleven unofficial pro fights (I'm assuming all fights were pro because it seems he had another loss at least in the amateur karate events). You will need to look at the titles to make sure I've got them right - I think a few inaugurals are missed and I wasn't sure if he vacated his KATOGI title or lost it. I'll look at updating Superfoot next. Let me know if there are any errors. Cheers. jsmith006 ( talk) 16:33, 24 July 2011
Dear Paul Maslak, very glad to meet you. You may know, there are martial arts event articles under threat of being wiped out. I'm looking for any support from martial art supporters. I can type you in details in demanded, but since the times is ticking away, I believe you will get an understanding more less. Please see the links below:
Any helps appreciated, many thanks, Umi1903 ( talk) 00:01, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Maslak, honor to have you here. Lots of crontroversy regarding Van Damme and some of his opponents. First off, do you have a kickboxing record for Van Damme? Also, Micheal J. Heming, any fights listed for him? What about Sherman "Big Train" Bergman? Patrick Teugels? Thanks. December 26, 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.208.202 ( talk) 02:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Sir, Do you have info/record for Mustapha Ahmad Benamou, Lenny Leikman, Sherman Bergman, Nedjad Gharbi. This guys are always linked to Van Damme's kickboxing. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.209.12 ( talk) 16:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
What about the records on Wikipedia for
Michael J. Heming and
Sherman Bergman? I though these guys was pros? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
4.231.210.125 (
talk)
20:55, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
I thought Heming was a Professional Karate Middleweight Champion of Europe? Was he defeated by British Champion Frank Brennan? It says he beat Lloyd Brown for the title and lost it to Van Damme by knockout. The Wiki record lists both kicknoxing & semi contact for Heming. I saw a link that Bergman knocked out a Thai opponent Morsak Muangsu and the fight was linked to Official Karate Magazine. He was listed as 13-1 in the magazine. I'm just trying to figure out if Van Damme beat anyone decent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.210.125 ( talk) 22:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, but I am not trying two compare Van Damme To Benny The Jet or Dragon Wilson. I agree they are Hall of Famers. But as a Van Damme fan, I'm trying to piece his record together. If he was an amateur kickboxer that's all right, I just want to know if he beat any decent fighters. I figure his two biggest wins were over Patrick Teugels and Michael J. Heming. I see where the Teugels fight at the Forest Nations was billed as light-contact, but photos show the fight in a boxing ring. Van Damme's knockout over Lenny Leickman, the photo shows boxing gloves but no ring. Heming fought Frank Brennan and Brennan was one of Great Britian's top karate champs. As for Sherman Bergman, links on Wiki to flickr show what appears to at least a 19-2 pro record. As a Van Damme fan, I just think if Jean-Claude beat these three guys, it at least shows to all his haters that in his day he was a legit fighter. He was no Hall of Fame great, but he was legit. — Preceding
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talk)
02:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Here's a YouTube link to a 1979 Van Damme match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0pnfzVESWw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.212.3 ( talk) 02:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Wouldn't it clear up a lot of controversy if you or one of your associates "cleaned-up" any errors on Van Damme's posted record. If information is available on Jean-Claude's matches, why not just post them on his Wikipedia page. Why doesn't
Gary Daniels send in his complete fight record and have it posted (if the one on Wiki has errors). This Bergman guy, if you have his fight record, why not post it on his Wiki page. Also, maybe your European contacts have
Michael J. Heming record? I'm just pointing out, that since Jean-Claude Van Damme is so popular, why not just clear up any controversies. Again, I'm not saying Van Damme was the greatest martial arts fighter ever, but he did compete and he clearly beat some decent opponents. — Preceding
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4.231.212.150 (
talk)
03:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
No Disrespect, but Jean-Claude Van Damme (JCVD) was great in his days! I have link here: [1] from 1984 Official Karate Magazine. Barry Harrell said the Sherman "Big Train" Bergman, 12-1, 12 KO was a promising fighter. JCVD knocked Bergman out! JCVD KO'd Patrick Teugels in 1 round and broke his nose. Teugels said in his interview it was his only knockout lost! JCVD knocked out Michael J. Heming in under 1 minute. Heming was champion of Europe 69kg.! JCVD was 18-1, 18 knockouts in Kickboxing. He was great! Amateur or professional, not important. ```PeterHeughan — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterHeughan ( talk • contribs) 19:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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Baseball Watcher 20:34, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
Paul,
Just a few questions - probably fairly obvious:
1) Who does Benny rate as the top American kickboxer of all time (all styles, all weights) apart from himself? 2) After Rob Kaman defeated Blinky was there any consideration that Benny would move up in weight to middleweight to take on Kaman? 3) Which country did Benny find his hardest opponents tended to come from e.g. Japan, Thailand, Netherlands etc.
Cheers. Hope the interview goes well. jsmith006 ( talk) 15:30, 10 July 2011
{{ helpme}}
Legkicker01 has reversed the corrections I made to Benny Urquidez's entry. Besides being inaccurate, I believe his language violates the original research and neutral POV rules. How do I appropriately address this issue?
Paul Maslak ( talk) 07:32, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I was having difficulty finding more than a handful of his matches. I am also trying to expand the records of many other fighters of that time such as Dennis Alexio, Branko Cikatić and Kevin Rosier. Any information on them would be much appreciated. -- WölffReik ( talk) 23:14, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
Do you have any more info on this guys PKA title fights? I have managed to pin down about four but he's supposed to have defended this title over 20 years so I would assume he would have had more title defences. Also if you ever do a Rob Kaman interview please ask him when he won his I.K.B.F. world title (if he even won it) - it's been driving me crazy for the past couple of years. jsmith006 ( talk) 08:34, 17 July 2011
Wilson v Piotrowski was not sanctioned by ISKA. Their title was not at stake. However, under the rules for champions with most sanctioning bodies, if a champion loses a non-title fight or an unsanctioned title fight, you also vacate the original title. So when Don lost to Piotrowski, his ISKA title was vacated automatically; Don did not protest. The WKA title, however, was different. That title was at a lighter weight. Also, under WKA rules, when a WKA champion loses a non-title or unsanctioned fight, the champion's obligation is to stand ready to defend against that opponent in a WKA sanctioned title defense at the title weight. Don made himself available for such a rematch, but WKA promotional arrangements never came together. Don was living in Santa Moncia when this fight occurred, and I would see him fairly regularly. At the time of this bout, he had just returned from filming "Bloodfist" in the Philippines and had not been inside a gym for months. His first wife had thrown him out, left him with their infant son and filed for divorce. Don was literally living on a friend's living room couch with a baby in tow. He took the Piotrowski fight because he was temporarily desperate for cash to find an apartment and re-start his life. With all that, he lost to Piotrowski by a half point. Also, Don was without management at the time. Otherwise a protest and rematch might have been forthcoming. As it was, Don looked at that loss as a badge of honor for the sake of his son.
Same way Don looks at that underhanded behind-the-scenes fight-fixing loss in Thailand because, as Don says, he knew going in the only way he could win was by KO and he felt he should have KOed Samart even after the coerced last-minute 8-pound weight loss. That weight scam happened several more times in Thailand in that era with other Western fighters. A fight under those circumstances in the US would have been transmuted to a no-contest and the promoter would have been permanently shut down. People who are not close to the administration of ring sports do not understand what so much rapid weight loss does to a fighter: 1) It makes him exhausted from round one. 2) It interferes with his sense of equilibrium, making him unstable on his feet and much easier to knock down. 3) It minimizes the natural liquid shock absorber between the brain and the skull so that he becomes easier to knock out as well as very vulnerable to severe knockouts of the sort that could lead to coma or even death. 4) It flatters the lighter fighter who did not drop weight because it makes him look like a giant-killer.
Paul Maslak ( talk) 15:18, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Paul,
Have updated table - now on Don's wiki page. Have made all new titles inaugural so check to see if ok - think IKF and ISKA titles are probably for vacant titles as well established by then. Have also updated titles section. One question - 1991 Carmichael fight did Don 1) vacate his super light-heavyweight world title fight before taking on fight or 2) did he vacate the light-heavyweight title afterwards. CHeers. jsmith006 ( talk) 17:40, 21 July 2011
Paul - have updated Benny's fight record & titles in line with STAR records and have mentioned this in introduction to Benny's page. I have updated the top box to include his documented record & excludes the eleven unofficial pro fights (I'm assuming all fights were pro because it seems he had another loss at least in the amateur karate events). You will need to look at the titles to make sure I've got them right - I think a few inaugurals are missed and I wasn't sure if he vacated his KATOGI title or lost it. I'll look at updating Superfoot next. Let me know if there are any errors. Cheers. jsmith006 ( talk) 16:33, 24 July 2011
Dear Paul Maslak, very glad to meet you. You may know, there are martial arts event articles under threat of being wiped out. I'm looking for any support from martial art supporters. I can type you in details in demanded, but since the times is ticking away, I believe you will get an understanding more less. Please see the links below:
Any helps appreciated, many thanks, Umi1903 ( talk) 00:01, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
Dear Mr. Maslak, honor to have you here. Lots of crontroversy regarding Van Damme and some of his opponents. First off, do you have a kickboxing record for Van Damme? Also, Micheal J. Heming, any fights listed for him? What about Sherman "Big Train" Bergman? Patrick Teugels? Thanks. December 26, 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.208.202 ( talk) 02:52, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
Sir, Do you have info/record for Mustapha Ahmad Benamou, Lenny Leikman, Sherman Bergman, Nedjad Gharbi. This guys are always linked to Van Damme's kickboxing. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.209.12 ( talk) 16:54, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
What about the records on Wikipedia for
Michael J. Heming and
Sherman Bergman? I though these guys was pros? — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
4.231.210.125 (
talk)
20:55, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
I thought Heming was a Professional Karate Middleweight Champion of Europe? Was he defeated by British Champion Frank Brennan? It says he beat Lloyd Brown for the title and lost it to Van Damme by knockout. The Wiki record lists both kicknoxing & semi contact for Heming. I saw a link that Bergman knocked out a Thai opponent Morsak Muangsu and the fight was linked to Official Karate Magazine. He was listed as 13-1 in the magazine. I'm just trying to figure out if Van Damme beat anyone decent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.210.125 ( talk) 22:11, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, but I am not trying two compare Van Damme To Benny The Jet or Dragon Wilson. I agree they are Hall of Famers. But as a Van Damme fan, I'm trying to piece his record together. If he was an amateur kickboxer that's all right, I just want to know if he beat any decent fighters. I figure his two biggest wins were over Patrick Teugels and Michael J. Heming. I see where the Teugels fight at the Forest Nations was billed as light-contact, but photos show the fight in a boxing ring. Van Damme's knockout over Lenny Leickman, the photo shows boxing gloves but no ring. Heming fought Frank Brennan and Brennan was one of Great Britian's top karate champs. As for Sherman Bergman, links on Wiki to flickr show what appears to at least a 19-2 pro record. As a Van Damme fan, I just think if Jean-Claude beat these three guys, it at least shows to all his haters that in his day he was a legit fighter. He was no Hall of Fame great, but he was legit. — Preceding
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4.231.212.3 (
talk)
02:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Here's a YouTube link to a 1979 Van Damme match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0pnfzVESWw — Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.231.212.3 ( talk) 02:03, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Wouldn't it clear up a lot of controversy if you or one of your associates "cleaned-up" any errors on Van Damme's posted record. If information is available on Jean-Claude's matches, why not just post them on his Wikipedia page. Why doesn't
Gary Daniels send in his complete fight record and have it posted (if the one on Wiki has errors). This Bergman guy, if you have his fight record, why not post it on his Wiki page. Also, maybe your European contacts have
Michael J. Heming record? I'm just pointing out, that since Jean-Claude Van Damme is so popular, why not just clear up any controversies. Again, I'm not saying Van Damme was the greatest martial arts fighter ever, but he did compete and he clearly beat some decent opponents. — Preceding
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4.231.212.150 (
talk)
03:20, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
No Disrespect, but Jean-Claude Van Damme (JCVD) was great in his days! I have link here: [1] from 1984 Official Karate Magazine. Barry Harrell said the Sherman "Big Train" Bergman, 12-1, 12 KO was a promising fighter. JCVD knocked Bergman out! JCVD KO'd Patrick Teugels in 1 round and broke his nose. Teugels said in his interview it was his only knockout lost! JCVD knocked out Michael J. Heming in under 1 minute. Heming was champion of Europe 69kg.! JCVD was 18-1, 18 knockouts in Kickboxing. He was great! Amateur or professional, not important. ```PeterHeughan — Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterHeughan ( talk • contribs) 19:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
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