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The tri fec ta. Slapping the template on you doesn't feel right, so I'll just paste the main points:
If you no longer want rollback, let me or any other admin know and we'll remove it for you. Cheers. — Earwig talk 06:04, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
We couldn't have done it without you | |
Well, maybe. Eventually. But the encyclopedia would not be as good. Celebrate 7&6=thirteen ( ☎) 13:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC) |
For all your good work with responding to protected-template edit requests, have this cat. Me-- ROAR! [Golly, they really ought to wipe their desk, whoever they are.] Alakzi ( talk) 13:34, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
mindfulness
Thank you for quality contributions in the field of astronomy, citizen of the world, for gnomish ambition, for your heartfelt welcoming quoting darkness and dream, for inspiring thoughts such as Respect, and for noticing darkness and dream, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!
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talk)
14:02, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
You are invited to a discussion at MediaWiki talk:Move-redirect-text#Redr to help determine consensus in regard to whether or not to use the {{ This is a redirect}} (shortcut is "Redr") template to apply {{ R from move}} automatically to redirects that are left behind from page moves. Happy holidays! Paine 16:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, maybe you know the answer to this one, if you can please spare a minute: I've just created the Template:R from US military aircraft designator, which I hope makes enough sense to be kept, but it comes up with a big red-letter banner on it ("The above rcat should only be used to categorize redirects that are in the main namespace") which I'm not sure where it comes from and how to get rid of it. I used Template:R from IMO number as a starting point for my template and cannot figure out why on earth that template is normal and mine has the banner. Thanks in advance for any explanation. -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 01:29, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
To editor Deeday-UK: I want to let you know that I'm very grateful to you for inspiring me to return to my work on this situation with mainspace rcats, such as the one you recently created. I found a way to simplify {{ Incorrect redirect template}} so there is no longer a need to add newly created rcats to a switch inside the code. Can't thank you enough! Happy holidays! Paine 10:44, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
You removed the {R from you incorrect punctuation} tag. I had placed because I don't think "modification" covers it. "Modification" could be correct or incorrect. And when I put a "misspelling" tag on it that got reverted too because it wasn't severe enough to warrant being called a "misspelling". What should I do? I want to tag things like this with something that makes it clear they shouldn't be linked to. Thanks. Faceless Enemy ( talk) 14:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Faceless Enemy ( talk) 14:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Steel1943 (
talk) is wishing you
Happy Holidays! This greeting (and season) promotes
WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user
Happy Holidays, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{ subst: User:Steel1943/HappyHolidays}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Paine, hope your holidays are happy, and a happy new year! Steel1943 ( talk) 17:48, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
Shortcuts exist to make referring to pages easier in discussions, typing them into the URL bar faster, and easier to remember personally, not for making links in WP:POLICY pages obtuse and less transparent. And WP:NOTBROKEN is not a revert rationale unless the change was worse than what was there before; the moment you reverted me on that you were violating the NOTBROKEN principle yourself. :-) The actual message of NOTBROKEN is that many redirects are useful as such and should not be bypassed just for the sake of bypassing them. When the real title of the page, or even another redirect to it, is more useful in the context than the redirect that was originally selected, it's entirely routine to bypass or replace the redirect in question. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 12:45, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Did a discussion take place regarding the application of {{ This is a redirect/rcat}} in the manner in which it currently displays (e.g. [1]) to Rcat Templates? Hope the new year is going well for you, — Godsy( TALK CONT) 18:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi,what's up? Just testing my first conversation in Wikipedia Md Alamin Bijoy ( talk) 04:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
== (section header) ==
syntax. Keep up the good work, and please don't be discouraged by warning posts like the ones you received on your talk page. I got a few of those myself when I first started to edit this encyclopedia. It's a great learning process, and you can be a real boon to the project if you are willing to keep at it. Have a Happy New Year, and don't hesitate to ask questions when you want answers!
Paine
09:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)Hey, Wikid77 ( talk) here. Thanks for discussing the RfD of {j}, as I had no idea it was used by 1,000 editors (not all 1,100+ pages were my edits). I have recreated the redirect {j} shortcut now as separate Template:J, designed as a simple shortcut for dyslexic users, more to avoid " " inverted as "nsbp" (or "nbps") but also shorter than "{nowrap}". The new template doc-page explains this:
As the author of the prior redirect {j}, then I imagined to be notified about the TfD (was not) when I was very active on WP at the time, but Jimp has taken a mission to delete many templates I have developed over the years, without discussing with me first. Anyway, sorry not there at RfD to explain "j" was a very short alternative to "nbsp" for dyslexic users (or mobile phone edits), and even name "nw" risks "wn" when used dozens of times per page (or seems very "northwest" [nw] to many users). In the U.S. pages, the hyphen roadnames (" I-95" or " I-22") also need short nowrapping, and so {j} was perfect for all uses. The one drawback was explaining how "j" means "join on one line" now easily shown in the new separate doc-page. Thanks again for your time spent researching these issues. I learned a lot from you in reading the RfD. - Wikid77 ( talk) 06:40, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
There is an RfC at Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes concerning what should be allowed in the religion entry in infoboxes. Please join the discussion and help us to arrive at a consensus on this issue. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 22:28, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey Paine I just found this new site and thought you might enjoy it or perhaps participating in it. I'll put it on your aol addy, as links don't seem to work on this Wiki thingy.
Bill(oc)
https://www.reddit.com/r/holofractal
, renders
[https://www.reddit.com/r/holofractal]
, renders
[https://www.reddit.com/r/holofractal external link]
, renders
[[User talk:Gondoofus|your talk page]]
, which renders
What was the reason for adding the explicit "unprintworthy" Rcat
here, given that R from unnecessary disambiguation already categorizes as unprintworthy? (I have no objection to the use of {{
redr}}
.) --
SoledadKabocha (
talk)
03:44, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Why isn't a template like {{
R from song}}
a wrapper for {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
? — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
21:05, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
{{
This is a redirect|from song}}
, so that when someone types {{
R from song}}
it has the same effect as typing {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
? Does the former have any additional functionality from the latter? — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
20:06, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
This is a redirect|R from song}}
or {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
. If we were to replace the code in {{
R from song}} as you suggest, then there would be no code to actually categorize a redirect to the
Redirects from songs category.
Paine
22:56, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from song}}
with {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
on the redirect
Kiss It Better (Rihanna song) and it does still categorise into
Category:Redirects from songs. And it has a few extra categories like
Category:Protected redirects which is a bonus. So I still can't see what the former template achieves which the latter doesn't. Regards — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
23:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
this is a redirect|from song|unprintworthy}}
. If this is done, then the redirect is not only categorized as "unprintworthy", it will also show the text of the R unprintworthy rcat template in the Mbox.
Paine
23:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC) Okay I understand now. Judging from your comments above and on
Template:This is a redirect/Comparison, you believe that {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
is superior to {{
R from song}} for the following reasons:
So do you agree that it would be good if we were able to rewrite the templates so that typing {{
R from song}} had the same effect as typing {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
? How we do that is a different matter because I now understand that we can't just make the former as a wrapper for the latter without some major code changes! — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
09:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
This is a redirect|from song}}
. To be clear, say a redirect is now tagged in the following manner:
This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
|
This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
|
This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
|
|e3=
to do so. And a general topnote or hatnote can be added with the |e0=
parameter. To illustrate this, I've added a |e1=
param to the last mbox above. These explanation parameters are unavailable when rcats are applied individually.
Paine
18:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
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{{
This is a redirect|This is a redirect|without mention|This is a redirect|from song|This is a redirect|unprintworthy}}
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Template:Code/sandbox)tlx|
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Template:Bcode)Would you consider adding a humor tag or the like to your page User:Paine Ellsworth/Wikipedia? On its face, it seems like a userspace copy of Wikipedia unless you're actually using that for draft work for the mainspace article. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 02:42, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in. I'm still next to clueless on using this Wiki thing. I sent a coupla e-mails to your aol box. If you'd rather I not send any more stuff, just say the word and I'll bug off. Gondoofus ( talk) 04:58, 7 February 2016 (UTC)Bill
No, never got 'em. Don't know why, unless they were sent to the old sbcglobal addy.
I sent a test message on my gmail business line to see if maybe a return message will come thru using that line.
Gondoofus ( talk) 06:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)Bill
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Redirects to Nepali-language terms. Since you had some involvement with the Redirects to Nepali-language terms redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:41, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Paine. You thanked me for revising my two-year-old note Category talk:Redirects from initialisms#Acronyms and initialisms, which remains the last item on that page, with no replies. You may be interested to know that I was prompted by this appeal on my talk page, from editor LeadSongDog who is unfamiliar to me, User talk:P64#Category_talk:Redirects_from_initialisms.
-- P64 ( talk) 18:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine. I am fine with this revert. That arose out of a discussion at RSN here - more voices there would be useful, if you would like to join. Thanks. Jytdog ( talk) 21:17, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Paine Ellsworth. I want to use multiple authors in the {{
backwardscopy}}
template. The problem I am having is the template allows up to three articles per template, but only one author per article. I got it to show multiple authors, but then I broke it to handle multiple articles, so I rolled back my edits even though I did sandbox testing first. Here is what I want to do:
{{Backwardscopy |author = Surhone, L. M. |author2 = Timpledon, M. T. |author3 = Marseken, S. F. |year = 2010 |title = Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price: Robert Greenwald, documentary film, criticism of Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart Watch |org = Betascript Publishing |comments = {{OCLC|698261486}}, ISBN 9786131213991. |bot=LivingBot }}
Before, some editors just put all the authors under one author=, but that throws a CS1 multiple authors error. Please help me to figure this out, and make it a teaching moment. Thank you. Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
03:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
{{Backwardscopy |authorlist = Surhone, L. M.; Timpledon, M. T.; Marseken, S. F. |year = 2010 |title = Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price: Robert Greenwald, documentary film, criticism of Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart Watch |org = Betascript Publishing |comments = {{OCLC|698261486}}, ISBN 9786131213991. |bot=LivingBot }}
{{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
04:25, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
|demo=
parameter, I'm okay with that because it seems to only rarely be needed, for example, to keep my talk page out of the category. Happy to see that the new param works well for you! and
kudos for remembering to update the template documentation. BTW, the limit to the number of authors is more than three – the limit is whatever the |authors=
parameter in the {{
Citation}} template can handle,
which has recently become "unlimited".
Stick to sources!
Paine
12:36, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
{{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
19:57, 15 May 2016 (UTC)I'll try to do my best.
2A02:582:945:DA00:2001:EAA6:90C5:6170 ( talk) 19:21, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
"Apparently, any editor can accomplish a 'back door' round robin." I don't believe so, not without having speedy deletion requests fulfilled by administrator. If that were the case, there wouldn't be enough of a need for this user right. That aside, there are no red links in the last 2,000 pages created (at Special:NewPages, didn't check quite so many at Special:NewPagesFeed). On the assumption at least 1 in the last 2000 pages created was speedily deleted, I don't believe deleted pages "hang" in the logs at new page patrol. Moves within the mainspace and redirects themselves don't show up in the standard "(article)" setting of new page patrol anyhow. Replying here, as I wanted to answer your question, but may lack the time to follow the discussion there. I could be wrong, as it was xaosflux who brought up "patroller issues etc." (they have been around a lot longer than I and I've found their statements are generally accurate and reliable), though that is rather vague. Best Regards,— Godsy( TALK CONT) 04:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello Paine Ellsworth. Your account has been granted the "file mover" user right, either following a request for it or due to a clear need for the ability to move files. Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:File mover for more information on this user right and under what circumstances it is okay to move files. When you move a file please remember to update any links to the new name as well! If you do not want the file mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Widr ( talk) 18:54, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Yes getting that off me chest did help me a bit. I am also in extreme pain because I have blood poisoning because I managed to cut me hands somehow a couple of weeks ago and am on medication which makes me quite sick, I only kinda submitted to go to the doctor's two days ago, it will pass but it makes it very tricky. So as your sig says it is OUR encylopedia well I probably misread that but I can't kinda backscroll too well what I can do to exercise my hands is just trog through all these redirects, it gives my hands some exercise. As Eric Morecambe said to Andrew Preview on the 1971 Morcambe and Wise Christmas show when told he was hitting all the wrong notes, "Listen, pal, I'm hitting all the right notes. But not &ndash? I'll give you that, sonny – not necessarily in the right order". Si Trew ( talk) 14:40, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi there. The page Sangha was moved to Sangha (Buddhism) to let Sangha (disambiguation) be at the primary title, after an editor requested it at Talk:Sangha (Buddhism)#Requested move 11 May 2016. I'm looking at the article traffic statistics and it seems that the original article receives almost a hundred times more pageviews than the dab page. Doesn't that make it a very solid primary topic? The requested move discussion is closed now, is there a way of reopening it? I don't want to start a move review, because I have no issues with the close itself, given that almost no-one had voiced an opinion. Is it better to just open another requested move? Uanfala ( talk) 21:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Dear Paine, you seem to busy in organazing files and names, and I noticed also for animals, why I would like to invite you to have a llok on the sister project Wikispecies. Dan Koehl ( talk) 22:23, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Hey Paine, Thanks for the welcome message, how are you doing? Is there anything you want to discuss? Blinndsay ( talk) 06:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Paine. I am using template:cite AV media to cite a video, and I would like to list two directors. They are not authors, screenwriters, or editors. From reading the doc it looks like people= can be used the same way as author=
However, when I tried it two or three ways it did not work:
people = joe blow (director) | people = jane doe (director)
nor
people = joe blow (director) | people2 = jane doe (director)
nor
people1 = joe blow (director) | people2 = jane doe (director)
Here is one Diff. Can you help me? I would like it to work like author =, author2 = , author3 =, and so on. Cheers! {{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
10:39, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
|people=
parameter do what you want it to do. Separating the two names with a comma or a semicolon is exactly what I would have suggested. Best to you!
OUR Wikipedia (not "mine")!
Paine
16:40, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Paine,
Is there a review of the "fascism" page I suggested mild change too? I feel vandalism is at stake or mainly people are counting on readers to only read the first 2 or 3 paragraphs and assume that conservatives were fascist when in Europe both were at the people's throats. If the review takes then I'm patient. As well, I'd like to thank you for the tips and tricks page which will aid me with understanding how the community works. So my learning curve will be shaped by community virtues and a desire for diversity. Thanks. 96.32.174.31 ( talk) 19:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth. Please take a good read of WP:RMCI. The second sentence clearly states "Please only apply these after the normal seven day listing period has elapsed". You closed the request above after a period of only two days. Requests should only be closed early when WP:SNOW applies, and here it clearly didn't. I haven't checked your contributions to see if this is a recurring issue, but please, do keep this in mind next time. Thanks, Omni Flames ( talk) 22:56, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Following your advice I started again a move request for Hafsa Sultan. Since you did tacitly agree to it (or at least didn't oppose to) could you be so kind as to take part to the move discussion in order to get things done a little bit more quickly? Regards.-- Phso2 ( talk) 14:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Why did you close that move request? Why do you think it appropriate to close a request in a page where you are involved? nableezy - 23:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Hello, Paine Ellsworth. It has been over six months since you last edited Articles for Creation draft article submission, " Carver Homestead".
In accordance with our policy that Articles for Creation is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia
mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
or {{db-g13}}
code.
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Thanks for editing the draft for Wikipedia, and happy editing. Puffin Let's talk! 22:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine. I have a question about whether a redirect is printworthy (and what that actually means). The redirect in question is Cumbric language. I had assumed that the unprintworthy category was only for redirects that were incorrect but still plausible search terms (e.g. a common misspelling) and that AWB/bots/etc. actually bypassed unprinworthy redirects. Is this correct? If so, "Cumbric language" is a valid alternate title and could plausibly appear (linked) in running text in another related article. Or have I completely misunderstood what printworthy/unprintworthy is supposed to mean? I must admit I read your essay on the subject and was none the wiser. Jenks24 ( talk) 08:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth, it's not 100% clear to me whether Talk:Government/Archive 1 and Talk:Government/Archive 2 should have redirects created after the move, but for the sake of completeness (and per WP:PMVR#rr), it's worth considering. I'll leave it to you. — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 20:13, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Paine, thanks for pointing out that the naming convention and MOS guidelines were not in sync. The big RFC earlier this year that led to the updating of MOS:JR hadn't made its way to that naming conventions page, so I went ahead and updated it. Dicklyon ( talk) 04:58, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
I heard that you were the one who redirected Starfire (comics) to Starfire (Koriand'r). I just wanted to let you know that Red Star originally went by the Starfire name. I'm just letting you know this just in case you wanted to convert Starfire (comics) into a disambiguation page. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:48, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Why should a welcome template be always substituted? --
95.49.33.102 (
talk)
20:37, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Please reply on my talk page. --
95.49.33.102 (
talk)
20:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
In Korean wikipedia, the Reptiles are class written as sauropsida. (석형강) The class Reptila is actually merged into sauropsida because birds and reptiles are inseparable. Nowdays we don't normally use Reptila according to. Line 8 the Pink ( talk) 03:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
After requesting the creation of
this redirect, I noticed that {{
Redr|to anchor|with possibilities}}
caused it to be categorized in both
Category:Unprintworthy redirects and
Category:Printworthy redirects. That doesn't make much sense, and I've requested for |p1=printworthy
to be added, but it should probably default to something more sane than that (perhaps just don't categorize by printworthiness at all, or make generally printworthy ones override the unprintworthy category by default).
nyuszika7h (
talk)
16:39, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Another case, 1-800-COLLECT – {{ R from telephone number}} seems to hardcode unprintworthy, though this one might be printworthy, and it's tagged as {{ R with possibilities}}. I've made it unprintworthy for now to fix the double category, what do you think? nyuszika7h ( talk) 07:58, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for the change but there are still inaccuracies and polishing needed in the article. Please see bullets below:
1. Please remove this:
"José traced his patrilineal lineage back to Fujian in China through Lam Co, a Chinese immigrant who came to the Philippines in the late 17th century and was later baptized as a Christian and renamed Domingo."
Since the article already have this:
"His father's family began in the Philippines from a Chinese merchant named Lam-Co. Lam-Co immigrated to Manila from Amoy, China (now Xiamen) to possibly escape the Manchu invasion and finally decided to stay in the islands as a farmer. In 1697, to escape the bitter anti-Chinese prejudice which then existed in the Philippines; he later converted to Catholicism, changed his name to Domingo Mercado and married a daughter of a native."
Reason: It is redundant and unnecessary.
2. Please review the line you have altered in "...he later converted to Catholicism, changed his name to Domingo Mercado and married a daughter of a NATIVE." which you have changed to Philippine national.
Reason: There was no Philippine nationals at that time. There were only Spanish subjects which the people of the Philippines are. The term 'Filipino' are only exclusive to pure Spaniards who were born and raised in the Philippines. Thus, the more appropriate term for it is NATIVE.
3. Please review the lines you altered below:
"On his mother's side, Rizal's ancestry included Spanish, Chinese, Japanese and Filipino blood."
Again, the term 'Filipino' at that time are only for the Pure Philippine-born Spaniards. Also, we cannot use Filipino used in the current context to talk about the past because today, Filipino is not a racial term. Seeing that this happened before the Philippines was an official country, the more accurate term to use for Jose Rizal's lineage is either:
"On his mother's side, Rizal's ancestry included Spanish, Chinese, Japanese and TAGALOG blood."
or
"On his mother's side, Rizal's ancestry included Spanish, Chinese, Japanese and indigenous native blood."
Reason: to be more accurate
4. I do not understand why is there a need to alter and cherry-pick the last sentence?:
"His mother's lineage can be traced to the affluent Florentina family of Chinese mestizos originating in Baliuag, Bulacan."
The same Gutenberg source you chose to use as a reference says that her mother belongs to a wealthy and affluent families on both chinese, spanish and tagalog backgrounds but you choose to use the reference of the affluent chinese baliuag family which is a maternal side of the family of jose rizal's mother. this is the article in the project gutenberg source you choose for alteration.
from gutenberg source: (note: brigida de quintos is teodora alonzo's mother/ jose rizal's maternal grandmother.)
-"Brigida de Quintos’s death record, in Kalamba (1856), speaks of her as the daughter of Manuel de Quintos and Regina Ochoa." -"The first of the family is said to have been Policarpio Ochoa, an employé of the Spanish customs house. Estanislao Manuel Ochoa was his son, with the blood of old Castile mingling with Chinese and Tagalog in his veins. He was part owner of the Hacienda of San Francisco de Malabon. One story says that somewhere in this family was a Mariquita Ochoa, of such beauty that she was known in Cavite, where was her home, as the Sampaguita (jasmine) of the Parian, or Chinese, quarter." -"There was a Spanish nobleman also in Cavite in her time who had been deported for political reasons—probably for holding liberal opinions and for being thought to be favorable to English ideas. It is said that this particular “caja abierta” was a Marquis de Canete, and if so there is ground for the claim that he was of royal blood; at least some of his far-off ancestors had been related to a former ruling family of Spain." -"It is certain that Regina Ochoa was of Spanish, Chinese and Tagalog ancestry, and it is recorded that she was the wife of Manuel de Quintos. Here we stop depending on memories, for in the restored burial register of Kalamba church in the entry of the funeral of Brigida de Quintos she is called “the daughter of Manuel de Quintos and Regina Ochoa.”"
Please change from
"His mother's lineage can be traced to the affluent Florentina family of Chinese mestizos originating in Baliuag, Bulacan."
to
"His mother's lineage can be traced to the affluent mestizo families of Laguna, Cavite, Bulacan and Pangasinan."
Reason: 'Mestizo family' would be more accurate since he has both families of spanish-tagalog-chinese backgrounds, not just chinese. — Preceding
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58.71.48.151 (
talk)
18:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
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Regarding your close of Talk:Kosher tax (antisemitic canard)#Requested move 16 June 2016: The discussion was a direct result of Talk:Kosher tax (antisemitic canard)#RfC: Does the title, hatnote, and lead of this article adhere to the neutral point of view policy?. I suggested pinging the participants of that discussion within the requested move discussion. As I've been so heavily involved in this matter, I didn't want to take the liberty of doing it myself. Might I implore you to reopen the discussion for one more week along with that action? I don't necessarily disagree with your close of the discussion in its current state, but I think my proposed action has a real chance of strengthening consensus either for or against the requested move, and that those who participated in the related RfC deserve a notification. Best Regards,— Godsy( TALK CONT) 16:58, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
I just made an edit request at Talk:Jimbo Wales § Protected edit request on 22 July 2016. Maybe you could also fix the {{ This is a redirect}} template to not duplicate the protection level if it's provided as an explicit rcat? nyuszika7h ( talk) 17:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I tried to add {{
Redr|avoided double redirect|p1=Disney Channel Original Movie|from plural|from list topic|p3=unprintworthy|unprintworthy}}
to
Disney Channel Original Movies, but {{
R from list topic}} hardcodes printworthiness. Can that be changed, or should I just omit that rcat?
nyuszika7h (
talk)
09:41, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm confused as to why you put File:Cat Stevens Buddha and the Chocolate Box.jpg under "See also". I wouldn't have given it a second look except it's a red link after the file was deleted by User:Explicit.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:14, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that in regards to the actor portraying Lucan in King Arthur, IMDB has an error. The actor in the film (made in 2004) appears to be about 5 or 6; the actor listed on WP and IMDB is Johnny Brennan, former member of the Jerky Boys, and would have been 43 years old when the movie was made. The confusion stems from the actors having the same name and Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB both have the same error. I'm going to fix the IMDB page (which is inaccurate) and then redo the WP link. I just wanted to let you know why I edited the article in the first place.
Not Lucan: /info/en/?search=Johnny_Brennan
Actual Lucan: http://www.moviestillsdb.com/movies/king-arthur-i349683/bab817
Thanks. Yojimbo1941 ( talk) 19:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, and no problem. Who knows how long it was even there? Yojimbo1941 ( talk) 19:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Template:Redirect category shell has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.
JohnBlackburne
words
deeds
20:34, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Female infanticide is still common in India. It is thus unwise to speculate regarding education leading to improvements etc without a reliable source. - Sitush ( talk) 23:55, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for processing the RM request. I believe the nomination was for List of sovereign state leaders in the Philippines, not List of sovereign state leaders of the Philippines. It is important to distinguish between the two as these are leaders of individual states in present-day Philippines, not sovereign state leaders OF the Philippines, as it had not existed yet. Thanks.-- RioHondo ( talk) 04:47, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
...these are leaders of individual states in present-day Philippines, not sovereign state leaders OF the Philippines, as it had not existed yet.Rules of enpagement Paine 05:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Please note that when requesting RfCs, the request should be neutral—"a brief, neutral statement of or question about the issue"—and should not suggest your preferred option as you are doing in your draft at User talk:Paine Ellsworth/RfC Alexander the Great. More appropriate wording would be something like "Should the tradition about the Jews showing Alexander the book of Daniel be included in the History section or should it be in the Cultural impact section?" I trust that this will be appropriately fixed before actually raising any RfC.-- Jeffro77 ( talk) 12:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
{{
rfc}}
on it (preferably not before you move it out of User: space) or move it to Wikipedia: space. Once there's an {{
rfc}}
, it's fair game. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:28, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
{{tlx|rfc}}
application as I did on my user subpage?
Rules of enpagement
Paine
18:14, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
{{
tlx}}
partly because I always do when linking templates with the intention of not transcluding them, but also because in this case the alternative method of wrapping the template in <nowiki>...</nowiki>
simply wouldn't work - Legobot looks for two opening braces followed directly by the three letters "rfc", and assumes that it's an open rfc - which is why it added a |rfcid=
to a nowiki'd rfc template in
this edit, and why it added |rfcid=
to a commented out rfc template in
this edit. It also assumes that templates like {{
rfc top}}
and {{
rfc bottom}}
are also the starts of open rfcs - as with
this edit from earlier today. It also doesn't correctly match braces, and drops its new |rfcid=
parameter immediately before the next pair of closing braces - which might be a completely different template,
as here. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth, I've noticed that you've been doing round-robin page moves occasionally. Thought I'd share a script here ( js) that semi-automates page swaps for convenience, if you ever encounter the scenario. You'd simply click "Swap" and enter a page destination, the script performs the 3 moves as necessary (saves time having to manually go through the move form 3 times). (It doesn't correct redirects afterwards, that's still manual)
Anyway feel free to adapt this script as you see fit, cheers :) (By the way the default temporary page prefix is currently hard-coded as "Draft:Move/", with what's following being page A... don't have a way to customize a fixed page like you do yet) — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 02:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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Was there a discussion about the updates such as this? Just curious, I like to stay informed about rcats, and I try to watch for discussions on the matter. Best Regards, — Godsy( TALK CONT) 03:49, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
|rcat=
; however, the final result, which also needed these edits to the rcats, was to create a simpler template with only one parameter for one or more rcats, the {{
Rcat shell}}. The rcat conversions are almost complete. Another advantage of this is that improvements made by editors to rcats do not have to be made twice, once for each transclusion of the Redirect template. It seems like every week I had to fix one or two rcats because editors would forget to modify the second transclusion. This is no longer the case.
Paine
u/
c
04:04, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
I was wondering if the Vice President of the United States needs "|p=1|br=1" to be added for the Start date and age formation date, since I noticed you edited so for POTUS (sourced below).
Source(s):
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=President_of_the_United_States&diff=734780336&oldid=734717730 — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
96.255.203.83 (
talk)
02:18, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the printworthiness of R/The Donald, I mean it was kinda determined to meet WP:GNG based on the coverage but there's not a lot to say and it has been merged to another article now. What do you think? nyuszika7h ( talk) 09:15, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth, for a page like Disgusting, the rcat should sense the protection level accordingly, so I created Category:Extended-protected redirects and let {{ R extended-protected}} ( sandbox, doc) populate it. I've also added the extended-protected entry at Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages. I'm a bit unfamiliar with rcats, haven't really been working with them, but please feel free to fix anything I might have missed or neglected to update :) — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 23:02, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, Looking at that, I'm not sure I'm able to see why the native name of a plant should be unprintworthy. Any thoughts? By the way, thank you for standardising the redirect categories pages, this is a task that I was hoping to some day do, but which I would have probably never got around to doing. Uanfala ( talk) 09:23, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
|unprintworthy=true
.
Paine
u/
c
11:47, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
{{
R to scientific name|unprintworthy=true}}
to avoid sorting the redirect to both printworthy and unprintworthy categories.
Paine
u/
c
19:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)Actually, although I said I didn't care either way, when I look at Category:Redirects to scientific names of plants it seems to me that a very high proportion of the redirects are not printworthy, being simply variants of one another. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
You said earlier {{ This is a redirect}} used to automatically show printworthy/unprintworthy when using a rcat that automatically categorizes them as such. Did you have a better way to do that or did you just hardcode the list of default-(un)printworthy rcats and check the parameters for override? I'm asking because I thought it might be useful to create a tracking category for redirects which need categorization by printworthiness (obviously, this would only work where {{ This is a redirect}} or {{ Redirect category shell}}) is used. nyuszika7h ( talk) 11:32, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Is there an rcat for redirects from "X" and "Y" to a combined article titled "X and Y", such as {{ R to joint biography}}? I'm talking about A-side and B-side here, which redirect to A-side and B-side. – nyuszika7h ( talk) 22:36, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
{{Redirect category shell| {{R from subtopic}} {{R unprintworthy}} }}
{{Redirect category shell| {{R from move}} {{R from subtopic}} <s>{{R hatnote}}</s> {{R printworthy}} }}
This is the first time I've seen {{ This is a redirect}} being placed on the same line actually causing an issue – apparently together with the RfD wrapper it breaks ( permalink). I've fixed it in the article now (and also replaced it with {{ Redirect category shell}}), but this is definitely weird. nyuszika7h ( talk) 13:22, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
{{
R to related topic}}
on the same line as the #REDIRECT [[]]
was that at one time, upon encountering a redirect, the MediaWiki parser would only process the first line and ignore the rest of the page - so any categorisation templates had to be on that same line. This restriction hasn't applied for several years now, but there are still a lot of redirs formatted like that. You can safely alter any instance like #REDIRECT [[Robustification]] {{This is a redirect|to related topic}}
#REDIRECT [[Robustification]]
{{This is a redirect|to related topic}}
I have implemented a check at {{ R to disambiguation page/sandbox}} to add an error message and tracking category if it's being used on pages that do not end on "(disambiguation)". I've tested it, but you might want to look at it first before I apply it to the live version. nyuszika7h ( talk) 12:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
To editor Nyuszika7H: Just to let you know, the category has so far filled to nearly 600 pages, so I modified {{ R to disambiguation page}} to send these to their own Category:Pages with incorrectly transcluded disambiguation templates. The pages in the parent category will soon transfer to that subcategory. Paine u/ c 02:26, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
See Special:Permalink/742732797, where {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}} errors because the page is not currently technically a redirect because of RfD. "Should only be used on redirects" applies to every rcat really, so I don't understand why only certain templates complain ({{ R avoided double redirect}} is the other one that comes to mind). I don't know if detecting the RfD template is possible, maybe we should just have a silent tracking category for these. nyuszika7h ( talk) 13:20, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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The tri fec ta. Slapping the template on you doesn't feel right, so I'll just paste the main points:
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You are invited to a discussion at MediaWiki talk:Move-redirect-text#Redr to help determine consensus in regard to whether or not to use the {{ This is a redirect}} (shortcut is "Redr") template to apply {{ R from move}} automatically to redirects that are left behind from page moves. Happy holidays! Paine 16:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, maybe you know the answer to this one, if you can please spare a minute: I've just created the Template:R from US military aircraft designator, which I hope makes enough sense to be kept, but it comes up with a big red-letter banner on it ("The above rcat should only be used to categorize redirects that are in the main namespace") which I'm not sure where it comes from and how to get rid of it. I used Template:R from IMO number as a starting point for my template and cannot figure out why on earth that template is normal and mine has the banner. Thanks in advance for any explanation. -- Deeday-UK ( talk) 01:29, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
To editor Deeday-UK: I want to let you know that I'm very grateful to you for inspiring me to return to my work on this situation with mainspace rcats, such as the one you recently created. I found a way to simplify {{ Incorrect redirect template}} so there is no longer a need to add newly created rcats to a switch inside the code. Can't thank you enough! Happy holidays! Paine 10:44, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
You removed the {R from you incorrect punctuation} tag. I had placed because I don't think "modification" covers it. "Modification" could be correct or incorrect. And when I put a "misspelling" tag on it that got reverted too because it wasn't severe enough to warrant being called a "misspelling". What should I do? I want to tag things like this with something that makes it clear they shouldn't be linked to. Thanks. Faceless Enemy ( talk) 14:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC) Faceless Enemy ( talk) 14:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
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Shortcuts exist to make referring to pages easier in discussions, typing them into the URL bar faster, and easier to remember personally, not for making links in WP:POLICY pages obtuse and less transparent. And WP:NOTBROKEN is not a revert rationale unless the change was worse than what was there before; the moment you reverted me on that you were violating the NOTBROKEN principle yourself. :-) The actual message of NOTBROKEN is that many redirects are useful as such and should not be bypassed just for the sake of bypassing them. When the real title of the page, or even another redirect to it, is more useful in the context than the redirect that was originally selected, it's entirely routine to bypass or replace the redirect in question. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 12:45, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Did a discussion take place regarding the application of {{ This is a redirect/rcat}} in the manner in which it currently displays (e.g. [1]) to Rcat Templates? Hope the new year is going well for you, — Godsy( TALK CONT) 18:55, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi,what's up? Just testing my first conversation in Wikipedia Md Alamin Bijoy ( talk) 04:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
== (section header) ==
syntax. Keep up the good work, and please don't be discouraged by warning posts like the ones you received on your talk page. I got a few of those myself when I first started to edit this encyclopedia. It's a great learning process, and you can be a real boon to the project if you are willing to keep at it. Have a Happy New Year, and don't hesitate to ask questions when you want answers!
Paine
09:31, 11 January 2016 (UTC)Hey, Wikid77 ( talk) here. Thanks for discussing the RfD of {j}, as I had no idea it was used by 1,000 editors (not all 1,100+ pages were my edits). I have recreated the redirect {j} shortcut now as separate Template:J, designed as a simple shortcut for dyslexic users, more to avoid " " inverted as "nsbp" (or "nbps") but also shorter than "{nowrap}". The new template doc-page explains this:
As the author of the prior redirect {j}, then I imagined to be notified about the TfD (was not) when I was very active on WP at the time, but Jimp has taken a mission to delete many templates I have developed over the years, without discussing with me first. Anyway, sorry not there at RfD to explain "j" was a very short alternative to "nbsp" for dyslexic users (or mobile phone edits), and even name "nw" risks "wn" when used dozens of times per page (or seems very "northwest" [nw] to many users). In the U.S. pages, the hyphen roadnames (" I-95" or " I-22") also need short nowrapping, and so {j} was perfect for all uses. The one drawback was explaining how "j" means "join on one line" now easily shown in the new separate doc-page. Thanks again for your time spent researching these issues. I learned a lot from you in reading the RfD. - Wikid77 ( talk) 06:40, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
There is an RfC at Template talk:Infobox#RfC: Religion in infoboxes concerning what should be allowed in the religion entry in infoboxes. Please join the discussion and help us to arrive at a consensus on this issue. -- Guy Macon ( talk) 22:28, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
Hey Paine I just found this new site and thought you might enjoy it or perhaps participating in it. I'll put it on your aol addy, as links don't seem to work on this Wiki thingy.
Bill(oc)
https://www.reddit.com/r/holofractal
, renders
[https://www.reddit.com/r/holofractal]
, renders
[https://www.reddit.com/r/holofractal external link]
, renders
[[User talk:Gondoofus|your talk page]]
, which renders
What was the reason for adding the explicit "unprintworthy" Rcat
here, given that R from unnecessary disambiguation already categorizes as unprintworthy? (I have no objection to the use of {{
redr}}
.) --
SoledadKabocha (
talk)
03:44, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Why isn't a template like {{
R from song}}
a wrapper for {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
? — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
21:05, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
{{
This is a redirect|from song}}
, so that when someone types {{
R from song}}
it has the same effect as typing {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
? Does the former have any additional functionality from the latter? — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
20:06, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
This is a redirect|R from song}}
or {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
. If we were to replace the code in {{
R from song}} as you suggest, then there would be no code to actually categorize a redirect to the
Redirects from songs category.
Paine
22:56, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
R from song}}
with {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
on the redirect
Kiss It Better (Rihanna song) and it does still categorise into
Category:Redirects from songs. And it has a few extra categories like
Category:Protected redirects which is a bonus. So I still can't see what the former template achieves which the latter doesn't. Regards — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
23:25, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
this is a redirect|from song|unprintworthy}}
. If this is done, then the redirect is not only categorized as "unprintworthy", it will also show the text of the R unprintworthy rcat template in the Mbox.
Paine
23:47, 3 February 2016 (UTC) Okay I understand now. Judging from your comments above and on
Template:This is a redirect/Comparison, you believe that {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
is superior to {{
R from song}} for the following reasons:
So do you agree that it would be good if we were able to rewrite the templates so that typing {{
R from song}} had the same effect as typing {{
This is a redirect|from song}}
? How we do that is a different matter because I now understand that we can't just make the former as a wrapper for the latter without some major code changes! — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
09:24, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
{{
This is a redirect|from song}}
. To be clear, say a redirect is now tagged in the following manner:
This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
|
This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
|
This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
|
|e3=
to do so. And a general topnote or hatnote can be added with the |e0=
parameter. To illustrate this, I've added a |e1=
param to the last mbox above. These explanation parameters are unavailable when rcats are applied individually.
Paine
18:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)This talk page is a
redirect. The following
categories are used to track and monitor this redirect:
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{{
This is a redirect|This is a redirect|without mention|This is a redirect|from song|This is a redirect|unprintworthy}}
tlx|
(
Template:Code/sandbox)tlx|
(
Template:Code)tlx|
(
Template:Bcode)Would you consider adding a humor tag or the like to your page User:Paine Ellsworth/Wikipedia? On its face, it seems like a userspace copy of Wikipedia unless you're actually using that for draft work for the mainspace article. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 02:42, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in. I'm still next to clueless on using this Wiki thing. I sent a coupla e-mails to your aol box. If you'd rather I not send any more stuff, just say the word and I'll bug off. Gondoofus ( talk) 04:58, 7 February 2016 (UTC)Bill
No, never got 'em. Don't know why, unless they were sent to the old sbcglobal addy.
I sent a test message on my gmail business line to see if maybe a return message will come thru using that line.
Gondoofus ( talk) 06:33, 8 February 2016 (UTC)Bill
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Redirects to Nepali-language terms. Since you had some involvement with the Redirects to Nepali-language terms redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. - Champion ( talk) ( contribs) (Formerly TheChampionMan1234) 03:41, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Paine. You thanked me for revising my two-year-old note Category talk:Redirects from initialisms#Acronyms and initialisms, which remains the last item on that page, with no replies. You may be interested to know that I was prompted by this appeal on my talk page, from editor LeadSongDog who is unfamiliar to me, User talk:P64#Category_talk:Redirects_from_initialisms.
-- P64 ( talk) 18:01, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine. I am fine with this revert. That arose out of a discussion at RSN here - more voices there would be useful, if you would like to join. Thanks. Jytdog ( talk) 21:17, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Paine Ellsworth. I want to use multiple authors in the {{
backwardscopy}}
template. The problem I am having is the template allows up to three articles per template, but only one author per article. I got it to show multiple authors, but then I broke it to handle multiple articles, so I rolled back my edits even though I did sandbox testing first. Here is what I want to do:
{{Backwardscopy |author = Surhone, L. M. |author2 = Timpledon, M. T. |author3 = Marseken, S. F. |year = 2010 |title = Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price: Robert Greenwald, documentary film, criticism of Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart Watch |org = Betascript Publishing |comments = {{OCLC|698261486}}, ISBN 9786131213991. |bot=LivingBot }}
Before, some editors just put all the authors under one author=, but that throws a CS1 multiple authors error. Please help me to figure this out, and make it a teaching moment. Thank you. Ping me back. Cheers! {{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
03:03, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
{{Backwardscopy |authorlist = Surhone, L. M.; Timpledon, M. T.; Marseken, S. F. |year = 2010 |title = Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price: Robert Greenwald, documentary film, criticism of Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart Watch |org = Betascript Publishing |comments = {{OCLC|698261486}}, ISBN 9786131213991. |bot=LivingBot }}
{{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
04:25, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
|demo=
parameter, I'm okay with that because it seems to only rarely be needed, for example, to keep my talk page out of the category. Happy to see that the new param works well for you! and
kudos for remembering to update the template documentation. BTW, the limit to the number of authors is more than three – the limit is whatever the |authors=
parameter in the {{
Citation}} template can handle,
which has recently become "unlimited".
Stick to sources!
Paine
12:36, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
{{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
19:57, 15 May 2016 (UTC)I'll try to do my best.
2A02:582:945:DA00:2001:EAA6:90C5:6170 ( talk) 19:21, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
"Apparently, any editor can accomplish a 'back door' round robin." I don't believe so, not without having speedy deletion requests fulfilled by administrator. If that were the case, there wouldn't be enough of a need for this user right. That aside, there are no red links in the last 2,000 pages created (at Special:NewPages, didn't check quite so many at Special:NewPagesFeed). On the assumption at least 1 in the last 2000 pages created was speedily deleted, I don't believe deleted pages "hang" in the logs at new page patrol. Moves within the mainspace and redirects themselves don't show up in the standard "(article)" setting of new page patrol anyhow. Replying here, as I wanted to answer your question, but may lack the time to follow the discussion there. I could be wrong, as it was xaosflux who brought up "patroller issues etc." (they have been around a lot longer than I and I've found their statements are generally accurate and reliable), though that is rather vague. Best Regards,— Godsy( TALK CONT) 04:46, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Hello Paine Ellsworth. Your account has been granted the "file mover" user right, either following a request for it or due to a clear need for the ability to move files. Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:File mover for more information on this user right and under what circumstances it is okay to move files. When you move a file please remember to update any links to the new name as well! If you do not want the file mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! Widr ( talk) 18:54, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Yes getting that off me chest did help me a bit. I am also in extreme pain because I have blood poisoning because I managed to cut me hands somehow a couple of weeks ago and am on medication which makes me quite sick, I only kinda submitted to go to the doctor's two days ago, it will pass but it makes it very tricky. So as your sig says it is OUR encylopedia well I probably misread that but I can't kinda backscroll too well what I can do to exercise my hands is just trog through all these redirects, it gives my hands some exercise. As Eric Morecambe said to Andrew Preview on the 1971 Morcambe and Wise Christmas show when told he was hitting all the wrong notes, "Listen, pal, I'm hitting all the right notes. But not &ndash? I'll give you that, sonny – not necessarily in the right order". Si Trew ( talk) 14:40, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi there. The page Sangha was moved to Sangha (Buddhism) to let Sangha (disambiguation) be at the primary title, after an editor requested it at Talk:Sangha (Buddhism)#Requested move 11 May 2016. I'm looking at the article traffic statistics and it seems that the original article receives almost a hundred times more pageviews than the dab page. Doesn't that make it a very solid primary topic? The requested move discussion is closed now, is there a way of reopening it? I don't want to start a move review, because I have no issues with the close itself, given that almost no-one had voiced an opinion. Is it better to just open another requested move? Uanfala ( talk) 21:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Dear Paine, you seem to busy in organazing files and names, and I noticed also for animals, why I would like to invite you to have a llok on the sister project Wikispecies. Dan Koehl ( talk) 22:23, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Hey Paine, Thanks for the welcome message, how are you doing? Is there anything you want to discuss? Blinndsay ( talk) 06:37, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi, Paine. I am using template:cite AV media to cite a video, and I would like to list two directors. They are not authors, screenwriters, or editors. From reading the doc it looks like people= can be used the same way as author=
However, when I tried it two or three ways it did not work:
people = joe blow (director) | people = jane doe (director)
nor
people = joe blow (director) | people2 = jane doe (director)
nor
people1 = joe blow (director) | people2 = jane doe (director)
Here is one Diff. Can you help me? I would like it to work like author =, author2 = , author3 =, and so on. Cheers! {{u|
Checkingfax}} {
Talk}
10:39, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
|people=
parameter do what you want it to do. Separating the two names with a comma or a semicolon is exactly what I would have suggested. Best to you!
OUR Wikipedia (not "mine")!
Paine
16:40, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Paine,
Is there a review of the "fascism" page I suggested mild change too? I feel vandalism is at stake or mainly people are counting on readers to only read the first 2 or 3 paragraphs and assume that conservatives were fascist when in Europe both were at the people's throats. If the review takes then I'm patient. As well, I'd like to thank you for the tips and tricks page which will aid me with understanding how the community works. So my learning curve will be shaped by community virtues and a desire for diversity. Thanks. 96.32.174.31 ( talk) 19:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth. Please take a good read of WP:RMCI. The second sentence clearly states "Please only apply these after the normal seven day listing period has elapsed". You closed the request above after a period of only two days. Requests should only be closed early when WP:SNOW applies, and here it clearly didn't. I haven't checked your contributions to see if this is a recurring issue, but please, do keep this in mind next time. Thanks, Omni Flames ( talk) 22:56, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Following your advice I started again a move request for Hafsa Sultan. Since you did tacitly agree to it (or at least didn't oppose to) could you be so kind as to take part to the move discussion in order to get things done a little bit more quickly? Regards.-- Phso2 ( talk) 14:30, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
Why did you close that move request? Why do you think it appropriate to close a request in a page where you are involved? nableezy - 23:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks for editing the draft for Wikipedia, and happy editing. Puffin Let's talk! 22:35, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine. I have a question about whether a redirect is printworthy (and what that actually means). The redirect in question is Cumbric language. I had assumed that the unprintworthy category was only for redirects that were incorrect but still plausible search terms (e.g. a common misspelling) and that AWB/bots/etc. actually bypassed unprinworthy redirects. Is this correct? If so, "Cumbric language" is a valid alternate title and could plausibly appear (linked) in running text in another related article. Or have I completely misunderstood what printworthy/unprintworthy is supposed to mean? I must admit I read your essay on the subject and was none the wiser. Jenks24 ( talk) 08:16, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth, it's not 100% clear to me whether Talk:Government/Archive 1 and Talk:Government/Archive 2 should have redirects created after the move, but for the sake of completeness (and per WP:PMVR#rr), it's worth considering. I'll leave it to you. — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 20:13, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Paine, thanks for pointing out that the naming convention and MOS guidelines were not in sync. The big RFC earlier this year that led to the updating of MOS:JR hadn't made its way to that naming conventions page, so I went ahead and updated it. Dicklyon ( talk) 04:58, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
I heard that you were the one who redirected Starfire (comics) to Starfire (Koriand'r). I just wanted to let you know that Red Star originally went by the Starfire name. I'm just letting you know this just in case you wanted to convert Starfire (comics) into a disambiguation page. -- Rtkat3 ( talk) 15:48, 2 July 2016 (UTC)
Why should a welcome template be always substituted? --
95.49.33.102 (
talk)
20:37, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Please reply on my talk page. --
95.49.33.102 (
talk)
20:41, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
In Korean wikipedia, the Reptiles are class written as sauropsida. (석형강) The class Reptila is actually merged into sauropsida because birds and reptiles are inseparable. Nowdays we don't normally use Reptila according to. Line 8 the Pink ( talk) 03:06, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
After requesting the creation of
this redirect, I noticed that {{
Redr|to anchor|with possibilities}}
caused it to be categorized in both
Category:Unprintworthy redirects and
Category:Printworthy redirects. That doesn't make much sense, and I've requested for |p1=printworthy
to be added, but it should probably default to something more sane than that (perhaps just don't categorize by printworthiness at all, or make generally printworthy ones override the unprintworthy category by default).
nyuszika7h (
talk)
16:39, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Another case, 1-800-COLLECT – {{ R from telephone number}} seems to hardcode unprintworthy, though this one might be printworthy, and it's tagged as {{ R with possibilities}}. I've made it unprintworthy for now to fix the double category, what do you think? nyuszika7h ( talk) 07:58, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for the change but there are still inaccuracies and polishing needed in the article. Please see bullets below:
1. Please remove this:
"José traced his patrilineal lineage back to Fujian in China through Lam Co, a Chinese immigrant who came to the Philippines in the late 17th century and was later baptized as a Christian and renamed Domingo."
Since the article already have this:
"His father's family began in the Philippines from a Chinese merchant named Lam-Co. Lam-Co immigrated to Manila from Amoy, China (now Xiamen) to possibly escape the Manchu invasion and finally decided to stay in the islands as a farmer. In 1697, to escape the bitter anti-Chinese prejudice which then existed in the Philippines; he later converted to Catholicism, changed his name to Domingo Mercado and married a daughter of a native."
Reason: It is redundant and unnecessary.
2. Please review the line you have altered in "...he later converted to Catholicism, changed his name to Domingo Mercado and married a daughter of a NATIVE." which you have changed to Philippine national.
Reason: There was no Philippine nationals at that time. There were only Spanish subjects which the people of the Philippines are. The term 'Filipino' are only exclusive to pure Spaniards who were born and raised in the Philippines. Thus, the more appropriate term for it is NATIVE.
3. Please review the lines you altered below:
"On his mother's side, Rizal's ancestry included Spanish, Chinese, Japanese and Filipino blood."
Again, the term 'Filipino' at that time are only for the Pure Philippine-born Spaniards. Also, we cannot use Filipino used in the current context to talk about the past because today, Filipino is not a racial term. Seeing that this happened before the Philippines was an official country, the more accurate term to use for Jose Rizal's lineage is either:
"On his mother's side, Rizal's ancestry included Spanish, Chinese, Japanese and TAGALOG blood."
or
"On his mother's side, Rizal's ancestry included Spanish, Chinese, Japanese and indigenous native blood."
Reason: to be more accurate
4. I do not understand why is there a need to alter and cherry-pick the last sentence?:
"His mother's lineage can be traced to the affluent Florentina family of Chinese mestizos originating in Baliuag, Bulacan."
The same Gutenberg source you chose to use as a reference says that her mother belongs to a wealthy and affluent families on both chinese, spanish and tagalog backgrounds but you choose to use the reference of the affluent chinese baliuag family which is a maternal side of the family of jose rizal's mother. this is the article in the project gutenberg source you choose for alteration.
from gutenberg source: (note: brigida de quintos is teodora alonzo's mother/ jose rizal's maternal grandmother.)
-"Brigida de Quintos’s death record, in Kalamba (1856), speaks of her as the daughter of Manuel de Quintos and Regina Ochoa." -"The first of the family is said to have been Policarpio Ochoa, an employé of the Spanish customs house. Estanislao Manuel Ochoa was his son, with the blood of old Castile mingling with Chinese and Tagalog in his veins. He was part owner of the Hacienda of San Francisco de Malabon. One story says that somewhere in this family was a Mariquita Ochoa, of such beauty that she was known in Cavite, where was her home, as the Sampaguita (jasmine) of the Parian, or Chinese, quarter." -"There was a Spanish nobleman also in Cavite in her time who had been deported for political reasons—probably for holding liberal opinions and for being thought to be favorable to English ideas. It is said that this particular “caja abierta” was a Marquis de Canete, and if so there is ground for the claim that he was of royal blood; at least some of his far-off ancestors had been related to a former ruling family of Spain." -"It is certain that Regina Ochoa was of Spanish, Chinese and Tagalog ancestry, and it is recorded that she was the wife of Manuel de Quintos. Here we stop depending on memories, for in the restored burial register of Kalamba church in the entry of the funeral of Brigida de Quintos she is called “the daughter of Manuel de Quintos and Regina Ochoa.”"
Please change from
"His mother's lineage can be traced to the affluent Florentina family of Chinese mestizos originating in Baliuag, Bulacan."
to
"His mother's lineage can be traced to the affluent mestizo families of Laguna, Cavite, Bulacan and Pangasinan."
Reason: 'Mestizo family' would be more accurate since he has both families of spanish-tagalog-chinese backgrounds, not just chinese. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
58.71.48.151 (
talk)
18:19, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
Previous response
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Regarding your close of Talk:Kosher tax (antisemitic canard)#Requested move 16 June 2016: The discussion was a direct result of Talk:Kosher tax (antisemitic canard)#RfC: Does the title, hatnote, and lead of this article adhere to the neutral point of view policy?. I suggested pinging the participants of that discussion within the requested move discussion. As I've been so heavily involved in this matter, I didn't want to take the liberty of doing it myself. Might I implore you to reopen the discussion for one more week along with that action? I don't necessarily disagree with your close of the discussion in its current state, but I think my proposed action has a real chance of strengthening consensus either for or against the requested move, and that those who participated in the related RfC deserve a notification. Best Regards,— Godsy( TALK CONT) 16:58, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
I just made an edit request at Talk:Jimbo Wales § Protected edit request on 22 July 2016. Maybe you could also fix the {{ This is a redirect}} template to not duplicate the protection level if it's provided as an explicit rcat? nyuszika7h ( talk) 17:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I tried to add {{
Redr|avoided double redirect|p1=Disney Channel Original Movie|from plural|from list topic|p3=unprintworthy|unprintworthy}}
to
Disney Channel Original Movies, but {{
R from list topic}} hardcodes printworthiness. Can that be changed, or should I just omit that rcat?
nyuszika7h (
talk)
09:41, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm confused as to why you put File:Cat Stevens Buddha and the Chocolate Box.jpg under "See also". I wouldn't have given it a second look except it's a red link after the file was deleted by User:Explicit.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:14, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that in regards to the actor portraying Lucan in King Arthur, IMDB has an error. The actor in the film (made in 2004) appears to be about 5 or 6; the actor listed on WP and IMDB is Johnny Brennan, former member of the Jerky Boys, and would have been 43 years old when the movie was made. The confusion stems from the actors having the same name and Rotten Tomatoes and IMDB both have the same error. I'm going to fix the IMDB page (which is inaccurate) and then redo the WP link. I just wanted to let you know why I edited the article in the first place.
Not Lucan: /info/en/?search=Johnny_Brennan
Actual Lucan: http://www.moviestillsdb.com/movies/king-arthur-i349683/bab817
Thanks. Yojimbo1941 ( talk) 19:20, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, and no problem. Who knows how long it was even there? Yojimbo1941 ( talk) 19:35, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
Template:Redirect category shell has been
nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at
the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page.
JohnBlackburne
words
deeds
20:34, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
Female infanticide is still common in India. It is thus unwise to speculate regarding education leading to improvements etc without a reliable source. - Sitush ( talk) 23:55, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for processing the RM request. I believe the nomination was for List of sovereign state leaders in the Philippines, not List of sovereign state leaders of the Philippines. It is important to distinguish between the two as these are leaders of individual states in present-day Philippines, not sovereign state leaders OF the Philippines, as it had not existed yet. Thanks.-- RioHondo ( talk) 04:47, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
...these are leaders of individual states in present-day Philippines, not sovereign state leaders OF the Philippines, as it had not existed yet.Rules of enpagement Paine 05:01, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
Please note that when requesting RfCs, the request should be neutral—"a brief, neutral statement of or question about the issue"—and should not suggest your preferred option as you are doing in your draft at User talk:Paine Ellsworth/RfC Alexander the Great. More appropriate wording would be something like "Should the tradition about the Jews showing Alexander the book of Daniel be included in the History section or should it be in the Cultural impact section?" I trust that this will be appropriately fixed before actually raising any RfC.-- Jeffro77 ( talk) 12:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
{{
rfc}}
on it (preferably not before you move it out of User: space) or move it to Wikipedia: space. Once there's an {{
rfc}}
, it's fair game. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
20:28, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
{{tlx|rfc}}
application as I did on my user subpage?
Rules of enpagement
Paine
18:14, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
{{
tlx}}
partly because I always do when linking templates with the intention of not transcluding them, but also because in this case the alternative method of wrapping the template in <nowiki>...</nowiki>
simply wouldn't work - Legobot looks for two opening braces followed directly by the three letters "rfc", and assumes that it's an open rfc - which is why it added a |rfcid=
to a nowiki'd rfc template in
this edit, and why it added |rfcid=
to a commented out rfc template in
this edit. It also assumes that templates like {{
rfc top}}
and {{
rfc bottom}}
are also the starts of open rfcs - as with
this edit from earlier today. It also doesn't correctly match braces, and drops its new |rfcid=
parameter immediately before the next pair of closing braces - which might be a completely different template,
as here. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
19:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth, I've noticed that you've been doing round-robin page moves occasionally. Thought I'd share a script here ( js) that semi-automates page swaps for convenience, if you ever encounter the scenario. You'd simply click "Swap" and enter a page destination, the script performs the 3 moves as necessary (saves time having to manually go through the move form 3 times). (It doesn't correct redirects afterwards, that's still manual)
Anyway feel free to adapt this script as you see fit, cheers :) (By the way the default temporary page prefix is currently hard-coded as "Draft:Move/", with what's following being page A... don't have a way to customize a fixed page like you do yet) — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 02:46, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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Congrats Paine Ellsworth!! -- œ ™ 07:53, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Was there a discussion about the updates such as this? Just curious, I like to stay informed about rcats, and I try to watch for discussions on the matter. Best Regards, — Godsy( TALK CONT) 03:49, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
|rcat=
; however, the final result, which also needed these edits to the rcats, was to create a simpler template with only one parameter for one or more rcats, the {{
Rcat shell}}. The rcat conversions are almost complete. Another advantage of this is that improvements made by editors to rcats do not have to be made twice, once for each transclusion of the Redirect template. It seems like every week I had to fix one or two rcats because editors would forget to modify the second transclusion. This is no longer the case.
Paine
u/
c
04:04, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
I was wondering if the Vice President of the United States needs "|p=1|br=1" to be added for the Start date and age formation date, since I noticed you edited so for POTUS (sourced below).
Source(s):
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=President_of_the_United_States&diff=734780336&oldid=734717730 — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
96.255.203.83 (
talk)
02:18, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the printworthiness of R/The Donald, I mean it was kinda determined to meet WP:GNG based on the coverage but there's not a lot to say and it has been merged to another article now. What do you think? nyuszika7h ( talk) 09:15, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth, for a page like Disgusting, the rcat should sense the protection level accordingly, so I created Category:Extended-protected redirects and let {{ R extended-protected}} ( sandbox, doc) populate it. I've also added the extended-protected entry at Wikipedia:Template messages/Redirect pages. I'm a bit unfamiliar with rcats, haven't really been working with them, but please feel free to fix anything I might have missed or neglected to update :) — Andy W. ( talk · ctb) 23:02, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hi, Looking at that, I'm not sure I'm able to see why the native name of a plant should be unprintworthy. Any thoughts? By the way, thank you for standardising the redirect categories pages, this is a task that I was hoping to some day do, but which I would have probably never got around to doing. Uanfala ( talk) 09:23, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
|unprintworthy=true
.
Paine
u/
c
11:47, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
{{
R to scientific name|unprintworthy=true}}
to avoid sorting the redirect to both printworthy and unprintworthy categories.
Paine
u/
c
19:52, 24 September 2016 (UTC)Actually, although I said I didn't care either way, when I look at Category:Redirects to scientific names of plants it seems to me that a very high proportion of the redirects are not printworthy, being simply variants of one another. Peter coxhead ( talk) 21:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
You said earlier {{ This is a redirect}} used to automatically show printworthy/unprintworthy when using a rcat that automatically categorizes them as such. Did you have a better way to do that or did you just hardcode the list of default-(un)printworthy rcats and check the parameters for override? I'm asking because I thought it might be useful to create a tracking category for redirects which need categorization by printworthiness (obviously, this would only work where {{ This is a redirect}} or {{ Redirect category shell}}) is used. nyuszika7h ( talk) 11:32, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
Is there an rcat for redirects from "X" and "Y" to a combined article titled "X and Y", such as {{ R to joint biography}}? I'm talking about A-side and B-side here, which redirect to A-side and B-side. – nyuszika7h ( talk) 22:36, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
{{Redirect category shell| {{R from subtopic}} {{R unprintworthy}} }}
{{Redirect category shell| {{R from move}} {{R from subtopic}} <s>{{R hatnote}}</s> {{R printworthy}} }}
This is the first time I've seen {{ This is a redirect}} being placed on the same line actually causing an issue – apparently together with the RfD wrapper it breaks ( permalink). I've fixed it in the article now (and also replaced it with {{ Redirect category shell}}), but this is definitely weird. nyuszika7h ( talk) 13:22, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
{{
R to related topic}}
on the same line as the #REDIRECT [[]]
was that at one time, upon encountering a redirect, the MediaWiki parser would only process the first line and ignore the rest of the page - so any categorisation templates had to be on that same line. This restriction hasn't applied for several years now, but there are still a lot of redirs formatted like that. You can safely alter any instance like #REDIRECT [[Robustification]] {{This is a redirect|to related topic}}
#REDIRECT [[Robustification]]
{{This is a redirect|to related topic}}
I have implemented a check at {{ R to disambiguation page/sandbox}} to add an error message and tracking category if it's being used on pages that do not end on "(disambiguation)". I've tested it, but you might want to look at it first before I apply it to the live version. nyuszika7h ( talk) 12:58, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
To editor Nyuszika7H: Just to let you know, the category has so far filled to nearly 600 pages, so I modified {{ R to disambiguation page}} to send these to their own Category:Pages with incorrectly transcluded disambiguation templates. The pages in the parent category will soon transfer to that subcategory. Paine u/ c 02:26, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
See Special:Permalink/742732797, where {{ R from incomplete disambiguation}} errors because the page is not currently technically a redirect because of RfD. "Should only be used on redirects" applies to every rcat really, so I don't understand why only certain templates complain ({{ R avoided double redirect}} is the other one that comes to mind). I don't know if detecting the RfD template is possible, maybe we should just have a silent tracking category for these. nyuszika7h ( talk) 13:20, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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