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I had never run across that alleged strategy. Thanks much for posting the politico link, [1] it is a goldmine of factoids. Most of them belong over in USPE, 2016 rather than in Donald Trump of course (or in the campaign-specific spinoff articles), but it does have a lot of explanatory power. Not only was the polling bad -- politico's conclusion-paragraph on November 7th about the ups and downs of the Clinton'16 campaign which ended on a clear confident victory-note sounds ironic in the present timeframe with the benefit of hindsight -- but the switcheroo from the various estab-backed candidates to an unexpected anti-estab candidate redrew the swingstate-map, and at a time when Clinton'16 was tied up fighting off Sanders'16 on their left... making them unable to properly reposition their stances aka run to the middle, because not only were they fighting a rear-guard action against the liberal wing of the party they were no longer running to the same middle they had always planned on! I would be interested in seeing if the messaging and spending patterns of the DNC, and also of the Clinton'16 campaign and affiliated PACs, with respect to the various potential repub nom contenders, justifies the idea of the alleged Pied Piper strategy. It would be WP:OR just digging for the raw numbers as wikipedians, but if we can find an analysis-piece that was performed by a third-party journalist or political scientist or somesuch, that would count as WP:RS. In any case, appreciate you finding that URL, made my day :-) 47.222.203.135 ( talk) 00:33, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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This Robert person is trying to delete this article but it's valid. It was a competition I won and no one has updated it with the correct information could you help me link it to the guitar superstar with trey alexander musician no the soccer player Treyalexander ( talk) 03:22, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I didn't want to bring this up in the argument because it doesn't affect the points being made, but the correct spelling is Maclean's. And I was thinking about WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV too. Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 17:00, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Please self-revert. This material was challenge (more than once) and it does not have consensus for inclusion. You \r edit violates the page editing restriction.- Mr X 🖋 15:24, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
@
MrX: Just a heads up, after talking to El C
here and the conversation on NeilN's talk page
here. It is not in effect yet to let the article develop. Just for our clarification there, have a great night!
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talk)
01:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
There's nothing in the text that calls Carlson "racist". Please don't use misleading edit summaries. Volunteer Marek ( talk) 14:52, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I won't hold your inexperience against you, but you completely misunderstood the point here. The edit requests on the talk page are about adding a section called "uses", and that's not what I was doing. Thank you! Drmies ( talk) 02:22, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi thanks for tending to this. I think it's still not clear to newcomers. I suggest copying both versions of the language and doing an A / B or something similar. By the time we have a dozen contributors !votes, these polls keep going off track. SPECIFICO talk 15:01, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@ SPECIFICO: Uh-oh are they going to start another request move? Those are painful =/ PackMecEng ( talk) 21:36, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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For the sentence being misleading, you offer, in preference to the impressive array of secondary sources (CNN, CBS News, Wired magazine, U.S. News & World Report, USA Today, The New York Times, ABC News, and The Guardian) that the sentence was sourced to, one primary source, a statistics page detailing the type of weapons used in mass shootings between 1982 and 2017 — yes, really, during the past 35 years, with no information per year at all, no definition of how "mass shooting" was defined in the 20th century, and interpreted, by you, to mean that "the vast majority of mass shootings are done with handguns of some type over any rifle or shotgun". Please read our policy against Original research and note especially the sentence "Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so." Or just use common sense and figure out that what the media are discussing today are the recent mass shootings. Very little to do with the 1980s.
For calling the sentence badly written, you refer to the part of the sentence referencing the sources as "just a mash of jumbled links and names that do not add meaning besides trying to wp:overcite to give false validity to and misleading opinion". You seem to consider citing many reliable sources a bad idea. Maybe a few could indeed be left out, but the number of them hardly invalidates the text. The list of sources presumably becomes a "mash" or "jumble" in your view by virtue of being listed by year (2016, 2017, and 2018), because without the years it's just a list, which could by no stretch of the imagination be called a mash. These are very feeble complaints. If you find the sentence too information-packed to be easily read ("jumbled"), feel free to improve it. I'm warning you against further WP:tendentious editing in gun control related articles. You may be topic banned from the area, or otherwise sanctioned, if you don't follow our neutrality policy. Bishonen | talk 18:00, 15 March 2018 (UTC).
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@ BullRangifer: Just moving this off his talk page since it is not really related there. So with the whole DS thing and difference depending if it is AP2 or Gun control or the like all stem from various arbitration committee rulings on the subjects. Gun control here and Post 1932 American politics here. Those two cases basically layout why DS were imposed on those subject areas and what remedies it allows under their discussion. Both generally boil down to any uninvolved admin can at their discretion impose the remedies laid out in those cases as well as any extra restrictions applied to specific articles in that topic area, provided that WP:ACDS#Awareness and alerts has been meet, generally topic bans or blocks. Administrators may impose extra restrictions on pages that have common problems, for example Donald Trump in addition to the standard DS stuff has Consensus required, 1RR, and Civility restriction which are logged here and WP:AEL. If extra restrictions are applied to a specific page, generally a template like that is made or a more generic one is used that has the desired restrictions.
So in the end it's a cluster you know what that even experienced editors unknowingly fall afoul of all the time. Take my recent run in with the terrible and powerful Bishonen. She could of easily blocked or topic banned me from the article after she added that notice to my page, even without the formal warning. I would of had to take it to ANI or AE to try and get it appealed, which is always a pain. Which is why I generally try stay far and clear from the bright line that is DS on most article and try to figure out exactly what is in place on that article before I make changes to it. Which can be difficult since they are not always logged or logged correctly, if you look in my archives here you will see a situation where I almost did violate DS but it was not logged correctly and was actually suspended at the time of my edit. I ended up having to get admins involved to fix and clarify the issue. PackMecEng ( talk) 02:26, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Edits like this are a problem. [4]. Don't revert good material and misrepresent the sources in your edit summary. Legacypac ( talk) 02:33, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Can you please explain to me what your substantive objections are to my proposed edit? I don't want to revert you or get into an edit war, but we have a consensus and it seems to me you are preventing it from being implemented. Maybe we can work out a compromise here. Thanks. Waleswatcher (talk) 01:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Pleasure to make your acquaintance. I am guessing you are a right wing American politics editor and supporter of blocked user who I warned about the username policy just now. Andrevan @ 20:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Thisis so different from your previous interests, that perhaps it might be relevant that I should remind you that it is necessary to declare conflict of interest acording to WP:COI. DGG ( talk ) 02:21, 6 June 2018 (UTC)`
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A belated welcome to Wikipedia! Now that you're an official Registered User, here's a coupe of items for your user page if you like. You can find other User Boxes to chose from here. Once again, welcome. -- Gwillhickers ( talk) 02:41, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
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I had never run across that alleged strategy. Thanks much for posting the politico link, [1] it is a goldmine of factoids. Most of them belong over in USPE, 2016 rather than in Donald Trump of course (or in the campaign-specific spinoff articles), but it does have a lot of explanatory power. Not only was the polling bad -- politico's conclusion-paragraph on November 7th about the ups and downs of the Clinton'16 campaign which ended on a clear confident victory-note sounds ironic in the present timeframe with the benefit of hindsight -- but the switcheroo from the various estab-backed candidates to an unexpected anti-estab candidate redrew the swingstate-map, and at a time when Clinton'16 was tied up fighting off Sanders'16 on their left... making them unable to properly reposition their stances aka run to the middle, because not only were they fighting a rear-guard action against the liberal wing of the party they were no longer running to the same middle they had always planned on! I would be interested in seeing if the messaging and spending patterns of the DNC, and also of the Clinton'16 campaign and affiliated PACs, with respect to the various potential repub nom contenders, justifies the idea of the alleged Pied Piper strategy. It would be WP:OR just digging for the raw numbers as wikipedians, but if we can find an analysis-piece that was performed by a third-party journalist or political scientist or somesuch, that would count as WP:RS. In any case, appreciate you finding that URL, made my day :-) 47.222.203.135 ( talk) 00:33, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
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Nice job with the vandalism fighting. Good luck. You can also put the {{Vandalism Information}} template on your user page to see the Vandalism Information. Happy Editing, DoABarrelRoll.dev( Constable of the WikiPolice) 02:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
This Robert person is trying to delete this article but it's valid. It was a competition I won and no one has updated it with the correct information could you help me link it to the guitar superstar with trey alexander musician no the soccer player Treyalexander ( talk) 03:22, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Georgeclooney101 ( talk) 02:38, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
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Please stop putting the focus on me personally. I do admit a recent case of actual stalking and harassment was troubling to me. I'd appreciate it if we all keep the focus on content and not on individual contributors, thanks. Thanks for respecting my wishes and my personal space. Sagecandor ( talk) 02:56, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, I didn't want to bring this up in the argument because it doesn't affect the points being made, but the correct spelling is Maclean's. And I was thinking about WP:ATTRIBUTEPOV too. Peter Gulutzan ( talk) 17:00, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Please self-revert. This material was challenge (more than once) and it does not have consensus for inclusion. You \r edit violates the page editing restriction.- Mr X 🖋 15:24, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
@
MrX: Just a heads up, after talking to El C
here and the conversation on NeilN's talk page
here. It is not in effect yet to let the article develop. Just for our clarification there, have a great night!
PackMecEng (
talk)
01:55, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
There's nothing in the text that calls Carlson "racist". Please don't use misleading edit summaries. Volunteer Marek ( talk) 14:52, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
I won't hold your inexperience against you, but you completely misunderstood the point here. The edit requests on the talk page are about adding a section called "uses", and that's not what I was doing. Thank you! Drmies ( talk) 02:22, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Hi thanks for tending to this. I think it's still not clear to newcomers. I suggest copying both versions of the language and doing an A / B or something similar. By the time we have a dozen contributors !votes, these polls keep going off track. SPECIFICO talk 15:01, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
@ SPECIFICO: Uh-oh are they going to start another request move? Those are painful =/ PackMecEng ( talk) 21:36, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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For the sentence being misleading, you offer, in preference to the impressive array of secondary sources (CNN, CBS News, Wired magazine, U.S. News & World Report, USA Today, The New York Times, ABC News, and The Guardian) that the sentence was sourced to, one primary source, a statistics page detailing the type of weapons used in mass shootings between 1982 and 2017 — yes, really, during the past 35 years, with no information per year at all, no definition of how "mass shooting" was defined in the 20th century, and interpreted, by you, to mean that "the vast majority of mass shootings are done with handguns of some type over any rifle or shotgun". Please read our policy against Original research and note especially the sentence "Do not analyze, evaluate, interpret, or synthesize material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so." Or just use common sense and figure out that what the media are discussing today are the recent mass shootings. Very little to do with the 1980s.
For calling the sentence badly written, you refer to the part of the sentence referencing the sources as "just a mash of jumbled links and names that do not add meaning besides trying to wp:overcite to give false validity to and misleading opinion". You seem to consider citing many reliable sources a bad idea. Maybe a few could indeed be left out, but the number of them hardly invalidates the text. The list of sources presumably becomes a "mash" or "jumble" in your view by virtue of being listed by year (2016, 2017, and 2018), because without the years it's just a list, which could by no stretch of the imagination be called a mash. These are very feeble complaints. If you find the sentence too information-packed to be easily read ("jumbled"), feel free to improve it. I'm warning you against further WP:tendentious editing in gun control related articles. You may be topic banned from the area, or otherwise sanctioned, if you don't follow our neutrality policy. Bishonen | talk 18:00, 15 March 2018 (UTC).
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@ BullRangifer: Just moving this off his talk page since it is not really related there. So with the whole DS thing and difference depending if it is AP2 or Gun control or the like all stem from various arbitration committee rulings on the subjects. Gun control here and Post 1932 American politics here. Those two cases basically layout why DS were imposed on those subject areas and what remedies it allows under their discussion. Both generally boil down to any uninvolved admin can at their discretion impose the remedies laid out in those cases as well as any extra restrictions applied to specific articles in that topic area, provided that WP:ACDS#Awareness and alerts has been meet, generally topic bans or blocks. Administrators may impose extra restrictions on pages that have common problems, for example Donald Trump in addition to the standard DS stuff has Consensus required, 1RR, and Civility restriction which are logged here and WP:AEL. If extra restrictions are applied to a specific page, generally a template like that is made or a more generic one is used that has the desired restrictions.
So in the end it's a cluster you know what that even experienced editors unknowingly fall afoul of all the time. Take my recent run in with the terrible and powerful Bishonen. She could of easily blocked or topic banned me from the article after she added that notice to my page, even without the formal warning. I would of had to take it to ANI or AE to try and get it appealed, which is always a pain. Which is why I generally try stay far and clear from the bright line that is DS on most article and try to figure out exactly what is in place on that article before I make changes to it. Which can be difficult since they are not always logged or logged correctly, if you look in my archives here you will see a situation where I almost did violate DS but it was not logged correctly and was actually suspended at the time of my edit. I ended up having to get admins involved to fix and clarify the issue. PackMecEng ( talk) 02:26, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Edits like this are a problem. [4]. Don't revert good material and misrepresent the sources in your edit summary. Legacypac ( talk) 02:33, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Can you please explain to me what your substantive objections are to my proposed edit? I don't want to revert you or get into an edit war, but we have a consensus and it seems to me you are preventing it from being implemented. Maybe we can work out a compromise here. Thanks. Waleswatcher (talk) 01:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
Pleasure to make your acquaintance. I am guessing you are a right wing American politics editor and supporter of blocked user who I warned about the username policy just now. Andrevan @ 20:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Thisis so different from your previous interests, that perhaps it might be relevant that I should remind you that it is necessary to declare conflict of interest acording to WP:COI. DGG ( talk ) 02:21, 6 June 2018 (UTC)`
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Several members of the Russian Editing Team have complained about slow payments. @ MONGO: is even facing eviction! Vlad asked me to forward you some spending money until your regular salary resumes. He thinks it's a snafu with the new direct deposit system. – Lionel( talk) 06:43, 8 June 2018 (UTC) |
Indeed I am, not all American politics articles. Andrevan @ 01:09, 9 June 2018 (UTC)