Orderinchaos, may I ask for your help? The AN/I discussion concerning "bias" on Andrew Vachss has been archived without a resolution. [1] I wasn't the one who filed the incident report, but I would like very much to have a decision. A conclusion along the logic you laid out in your comment would be great, as I hope to speed the removal of the bias banner that was added to the Vachss article when Plh25.0/ 65.110.137.227 opened the AN/I report. Could you review and resolve the situation? Thanks very much for your help, and have a wonderful New Year! Golemarch ( talk) 09:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Since the site is still biased I think a bias banner should remain. Perhaps golemarch could explain why and how he thinks the matter was resolved? I saw a great deal of "wikilawyering" and no real discussion of the actual facts of the matter concerning the biases in the article. Did we ever reach an agreement? For that matter, did Golemarch and I ever actually discuss anything? Thanks. plh25.0 Plh25.0 ( talk) 08:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year! | ||
Hey there, Orderinchaos! Happy new
Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)
Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh. Best wishes, neuro (talk) 00:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC) |
Trust there is no snow wherever you may be - cheers Satu Suro 10:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Also I have developed a deep suspicion for those who use external links as refs as in [2] I was sure there was something no kosher or MOS correct about such a phenomenon - your opinion/policy short cut/cure/advice? Satu Suro 10:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Demands on you from all corners - gmail as well and Im getting off for some cold water - cheers Satu Suro 12:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
For article Revo Soekatno, I am intrigue. If you do believe the article should be deleted, let's nominate it and see the outcome. Serenity id ( talk) 15:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Orderinchaos: thanks for your comment. I've replied
there.
Serenity: that doesn't sound like a good idea - better for all that energy to be used on improving the article. -- Chriswaterguy talk 16:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Orderinchaos,
Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.
Kind regards,
Majorly talk 21:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, could you please delete List of Adventures in Odyssey characters for me, then move User:American Eagle/Sandbox5 into it, then undelete List of Adventures in Odyssey characters. Thank you, and have a Happy New Year! ✼ American Eagle ( talk) 03:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Archive : January 2009
I think the electoral district article is good to go btw, YellowMonkey ( bananabucket) 04:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus_2 is renamed Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern European disputes by motion.
For the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 10:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I was surprised that it actually worked. I tried it for Viet -> English and every sentence had obvious misnomers all over the place.
Good to see you've been expanding Brian Burke. The article still doesn't have an image. I note that Mr Burke will be making an appearance in Perth today (Monday 12-Jan) at Perth Magistrates' Court. Could be an opportunity for a Perthian to grab a photo of him ;) Cheers, Lester 22:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Geoffrey Edelsten states that the Wikipedia article about him is highly defamatory, and damaging.
There are a number of defamatory and damaging statements. One in particular as followings;
He subsequently spent a year in jail for hiring an underworld figure, Christopher Dale Flannery, to assault a former patient, and for perverting the course of justice.[5][6][7]
- This media statement is greatly different than actual charges seen at http://www.geoffreyedelsten.com/the-australian-criminal-reports-1990-vol51.pdf
- The charge was in fact “soliciting” not “hiring” – the use of “hiring” is defamatory, the fact can be found in the charge as follows; http://www.geoffreyedelsten.com/the-australian-criminal-reports-1990-vol51.pdf
- The charge does not refer “a former patient” instead referred to as “another”, – the use of “a former patient” is defamatory, the fact can be found in the charge as follows; http://www.geoffreyedelsten.com/the-australian-criminal-reports-1990-vol51.pdf
- The alleged “another” as seen in the charges stood trial for the attempted extortion of Edelsten. “another” was the man who in 1984 harassed and intimidated Edelsten and his family to extort money with menaces. This other side is not covered, and by its absence presents a highly biased view. “another” was later sentenced to 3 and a 1/2 years prison for fraud of an Australian Government Agency of more than $330,000.
- Flannery was not considered an underworld figure in 1984 – the date as set out in the charges. Flannery was only considered an underworld figure in media reports (seen above) that date from 1987 onward. There is an absence of such information between 1984 and 1987. Flannery was not considered an underworld figure in 1984.
Recent attempts to correct/unbias the article have been wholly removed.
Geoffrey Edelsten states that the Wikipedia article about him is highly defamatory and damaging.-- Gepa ( talk) 06:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
I have passed on your comment to Dr Edelsten. I should have a response soon.-- Gepa ( talk) 06:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah i heard that it's been really hot over there! That's a bit too hot though. :P Aaroncrick ( talk) 09:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
What's going on here? Reminds me of this. -- Merbabu ( talk) 13:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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Can you please fix this page so it includes a blank template that can be copied and pasted? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I think you made a mistake on this one. I missed the prod on my watchlist so I am commenting now. Cavill Avenue is a major tourist destination on the Gold Coast. The mall is the centre of activies during Schoolies Week and the centre of retail outlets in Surfer's Paradise. There are numerous notable buildings that have an address on the street. Cavill Avenue is probably the state's most well-known avenue. It is far from simply a suburban shopping street. Notability is not an issue. Since we don't delete articles because they lack sources, have points of view and few wikilinks could you revert your deletion so the article can be improved. - Shiftchange ( talk) 08:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I would've asked you for a nomination but it seems you were on break at the time. Enigma msg 17:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
* (you can always tell when it's school holidays.) yeah and when the car temp checks out the ambient temp to be 51 C - trust you are keeping cool Satu Suro 12:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Can you please check ar:كالغورلي to make sure I haven't insulted anyone's mother or anything? :) Thanks. Orderinchaos 08:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it. YellowMonkey ( bananabucket) 04:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
hooray! - the journo's have been pretty busy on this one, I reckon... and it's great to see you out there! - hopefully it'll increase interest in the chapter in due course, and it's not really a bad article overall, I reckon :-) Privatemusings ( talk) 07:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP ( talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: this edit, which I incidentally agree with: see this story on AM about the, um, interesting weather recording equipment used in Cloncurry when that temperature was recorded. Graham 87 00:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
The ministries that have simply another number look dodgy imho Satu Suro 01:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Nah in the template on the screen you see Jack Bloggs 1 and then just a 2 next to it :) Satu Suro 01:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I saw ya - if you want a good dose of paranoia just follow the conversation that graham87 and I have been having :( gosh golly yuk Satu Suro 14:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
The article Electoral district of Perth you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Electoral district of Perth for things needed to be addressed. Arsenikk (talk) 22:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Would you mind having a look at his MHS image upload? You're obviously aware of this user's history, the image looks too professional to be work that he claims to have created himself. Timeshift ( talk) 00:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
You gonna tell me he/she/it is a physician, or a medical doctor, or a phd in something? There is nothing in the text of the article that says anything about early life, profession (well in earlier life) at all Satu Suro 06:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation - I too remember lines from some songs from the deep past that play on stuff I see here as well - but in most cases I leave it out lest others think im completely out of it :) (more than I really am) - cheers Satu Suro 09:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
... in the recent Oversight election. Daniel Case ( talk) 21:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello there. Heavy expansion work there on BD, hey?. nice -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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I'm sorry I didn't respond to this earlier, but I just noticed your comment on the Assessment working group MfD page regarding WikiProject Coordinators (sometimes also referred to as Lead Coordinators). It is becoming more and more common practice to have this position in WikiProjects (see Military History, Films, and Novels for usage). It is a position elected within the WikiProject for making someone responsible for maintaining all of the procedural and administrative aspects of the WikiProject, in addition to serving as the designated points-of-contact for procedural issues and concerns. They are not, however, endowed with an special executive powers nor with any authority over article content or editor conduct. I hope this explanation alleviates any concerns the use of this term might have inspired in you. hornoir ( talk) 03:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council/Assessment_working_group - having read the whole thing rather quickly - it stinks. Just because a few projects have had fall guys like milhist - does not mean that the majority of current active projects have anything that might have a single person as respresenting anything that might be either a coodinator or representative - it smells - also I would not like to see what this mob might do to temporarily dormant projects or revivable projects - I believe that nothing good will come of it the way the discussion is going at the moment.
As for real tasks for the project - most projects have such limited understanding what good project management is - let alone even being able to maintain interest and involvement - sorry I think there is a terrible waste of time being invested in something that seems to be diverging from tasks that need attending to within WP. I do hope some bright sparks may prove me wrong. Satu Suro 14:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi do you know if there is a way to list all the subpages of my user page? I think I might have an unnecessary sandbox page floating around, but I can't remember the name of it. TIA -- Surturz ( talk) 00:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I saw your comment there, and figured I should clarify a misunderstanding you seem to have about the GFDL - GFDL licensed work requires attribution just the same as any current CC license. — neuro (talk) 23:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
13 degrees in the middle of summer! haha. I've heard of it getting even worse over there. I live in Tasmania and haven't experienced a 13 degree day in summer. And the rain!! Wish some of it could fall over the midlands and the eastern half of the state. Before you say anything, yes some parts of Tasmania are in drought and even got a dust storm at home the other day. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 10:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Our friend is back. Djanga 13:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing my errors at Queensland state election, 2009. I got so caught up in finding the dates (I only found the link with all of them after I finished most of them) that I forgot double check everything was right. - Rrius ( talk) 05:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I have taken it, (the town template issue) to the noticeboard just for a check against the general mob - scuse any aspersions/nasturtions about it 'should have been there' 'and 'not there' - it might just get a note or two Satu Suro 07:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I am really glad dan arndt showed up I had hoped he would if anyone has a good handle on that it is he Satu Suro 11:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Assuming you have the references, could you please check the timeline of Stubbs's changing party affiliations at Electoral district of Wagin? Cheers. Digestible ( talk) 18:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
But the electoral districts aren't named for their geography, but after the suburbs. And suburbs are typically ordered by their first letter. See Category:Suburbs of Perth, Western Australia Digestible ( talk) 11:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Versus22 talk 04:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
That's okay. Did you contest a state by-election in the recent past? Digestible ( talk) 00:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Just a heads up that I have raised this. I am tired of content disputes ending up with you accusing me of debating for the point of debating, and now stooping to accusations of lack of content contributions. Timeshift ( talk) 06:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
When it comes to CfD, I am afraid I am suffering from battle fatigue! I might win the odd scrap, but the war over the philosophy and direction of category naming has been lost a long time ago. I am convinced that the regs at CfD do not understand the somewhat hierarchical nature of categories and that the name of a category is much less important than the parents and children of that category. Best to use that hierarchical tree to remove ambiguity rather than create monstrosities as category names.
As for the specific case of Australian doctors, I have given that one a bit of thought. The new name, of course, is a disaster; a complete tautology like "cooking chefs" and "legal lawyers". It also ignores the spirit of WP:ENGVAR, "doctor" is the unambiguous name for the professionals in that field in Australia. The new name is actually more ambiguous than the original; the term "Medical Doctors", if anything other than a tautology means "holders of a Doctorate in Medicine". The category name, if read literally, excludes holders of a MBBS that the Australian vernacular term "doctor" actually includes! Finally, surely categorisation by Higher Education degree is overcategorisation by anyone's definition, so there is zero chance that Category:Australian doctors would contain holders of a doctorate (other than those trained in medicine of course)
While a return to the simple and clear Australian vernacular Category:Australian doctors would be preferred, there is zero chance of getting that up while the North American participants at CfD claim to be "confused" by Australian terminology. Perhaps a new name of Category:Australian medical practitioners would be a reasonable compromise. It removes the tautology and the added ambiguity of "medical doctors" and is a term used by Medicare when handing out provider numbers.
I agree, the "discussion" at CfD about this category saw no consensus for any course of action, including retaining the status quo and DRV seeking an overturn and relist would be entirely appropriate. However, it would be like poking a hornet's nest. I don't know if I can be bothered with the ensuing dramaz TBH. Good luck either way! -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_February_19&action=edit§ion=12 is a very good example of what is wrong when one has to tackle the issue with the mob - I support both matt and bidgee that a rename to australin medical practitioners is much better Satu Suro 23:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I think this thread could benefit from some data:
User | Endorsed original proposal: "Australian doctors" |
Endorsed revised proposal: "Australian medical doctors" |
---|---|---|
AussieLegend | No | Yes |
Bidgee | No | No |
Cgingold | — | Yes |
Eastlaw | Yes, proposer | Yes |
Gnangarra | No | "... would be reasonable cats as subcats of medical doctor" = apparently no objection? |
Good Ol'factory | — | "it could work in the US and UK context, but perhaps not in some of the other countries" |
Johnbod | — | Yes |
Mattinbgn | No | No |
Occuli | — | Yes, proposer |
Peripitus | No | — |
Peterkingiron | No | "would not object if that was the consensus" |
SatuSuro | No | Yes |
Totals (Firm yes / doubtful or no objection / firm no) | 1 / 0 / 7 | 6 / 3 / 2 |
Hesperian 00:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Yep, six (count 'em - 6) people support a rename of a category to a name that was not originally listed in the rename proposal and was only proposed in the middle of the discussion and this is deemed "consensus"; thus giving us a piss poor category name that is actually more ambiguous than the original. Top this off with another example of the continual low level hostility that exudes from CfD in the closing summary. Another great example of the CfD process in action. As I said, it's pointless engaging with the CfD process, it's broken and it aint getting fixed anytime soon. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 02:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Somehow we missed this lady's appointment to the WA LC to replace Vince Catania. I've updated all the places I can think of ( Members of the Western Australian Legislative Council, 2005–2009, Candidates of the Western Australian state election, 2005, Electoral region of Mining and Pastoral). I just thought I'd let you know, seeing as you're much more knowledgeable on WA politics than I am, in case I missed any. Thanks. Frickeg ( talk) 01:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Ooops, I now realise what that category actually means. Sorry if I created any extra work for you but I had thought it meant politicians in Western Australia. I'll be more careful in future. -- Hughesdarren ( talk) 05:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
When working on the template, I did note that there was the presence of major suburbs of Mandurah, Western Australia.
So what do we need to do with Mandurah and the Shires of Murray, Waroona and/or Boddington. Should we put Boddington in with Great Southern and Mandurah, Murray and Waroona in the South West, or we set up a Lower West template and take all the localities in the meteorological region (Peel and Gingin) outside the Perth Metropolitan area -- Andyman14 ( talk) 14:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Have finally made good my threat of redoing this list (and renaming it)-fairly complete, a few places yet unlocated and may be some neighbourhoods placed in the wrong locality (on the other side of road or creek etc) so could use some help on this (All the spelling is OK though)- Many of the linked articles where all the info. is supposed to be will need some work but I will be doing this shortly. Could it be 2 or 3 page list?? If so, I dont know how to achieve this ( Epistemos ( talk) 06:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)).
Yes, sure. Send them to me. Although if I haven't done them by months end I probably won't get around to them for some time after that. Also, do you have necessary information to complete List of Queensland state by-elections? There doesn't appear to be anything on the Qld parliament website. Digestible ( talk) 18:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I did a silly thing.... I (very stupidly and incorrectly) named a page Prince Regent River Nature Reserve which should be Prince Regent Nature Reserve, then instead of moving the page I (even more stupidly) just cut and pasted it over to the new page name. Now an administrator has to fix up my mistakes, could you do the page move for me please? Sorry, I'll go and have sleep for a bit. -- Hughesdarren ( talk) 03:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
We get so many like these in the WP Indonesia project I usually want to prod on sight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Network would appreciate your eagle eye and sword of discriminatory experience :( Satu Suro 10:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
No, they didn't - I'm fairly convinced, actually, that the template itself was fundamentally flawed. As far as I know, it is impossible to have coloured links in Wikipedia, which negates all the templated colour stuff the other template uses. However, I see no problem with the ones currently being used (I changed the 2008 list) for these. Have fun - especially with (joy of joys) the Legislative Council! (This is the reason that Queensland, which so obligingly got rid of the upper house all those years ago, is much, much easier to make candidate lists for.) Frickeg ( talk) 01:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
We have some massive suburbs here in Launnie ;) Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 11:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that! :) That's what I was thinking, but before I went and changed everything I just wanted to ask. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 10:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Man, what is your problem today? Nobody would block over such a trivial content dispute, especially when I'm one of very few people involved with these articles who actually cites policy.
Do you seriously dispute that historians are now claiming the ADF had inside knowledge of the situation in East Timor? Do you seriously claim that it is original research to say Howard calibrated his military posture to project Australian forces to Timor Leste? It's more or less a direct quote, and follows years worth of literature put out to counter the Dibbs doctrine. Ottre 11:06, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
But what an F nuisance - It brings back memories of all the surveyed townsd in western tas that hardly existed for even 10 years :( - will tryo to catch up over the trans line tmeplate i was thinking of off wiki Satu Suro 07:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. I hit the rollback button on u by mistake at Howard Government. -- Merbabu ( talk) 13:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry -- my mistake. Next time, I'll look at the delete log, to understand it got deleted, then restored since it was already about an entirely different film. Still learning. -- SV Resolution( Talk) 15:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Be amused by my messy message at the Tasmanian project noticeboard - the numbner of red link pollies who are still active in rattling their pension tins [3] in the faces of the electorate is not short Satu Suro 23:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I notice you are deleting various categories with no discussion, no CfD, no notification to the creator, etc. This includes replacing one category name with another which in some cases is no improvement and is less helpful for navigation. 'Housekeeping' is no justification for this. Please discuss. Hmains ( talk) 20:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I can only concur with everything said by OIC above. CfD is a sham and broken beyond repair and working through the CfD process leads to worse outcomes by any measure. I support OICs actions to sort out the mess created by CfD (Note that categories relating to universities are being systematically made useless at the moment and will require fixing once CfD get their mitts off them). Actions on Wikipedia should not be judged by whether they "follow process" or "meet consensus" but by whether they improve the encyclopedia. His edits are not disruptive, have improved the encyclopedia and fixed the mess created by a blind following of a process run by a small clique in pursuit of their own agenda. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 00:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks guys :) Much appreciated. Orderinchaos 03:34, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Interesting to note the name of Category:Neighbourhoods in Australia. Would this not be better off named Category:Suburbs in Australia per AuE rather than using the Americanised " term "Neighbourhoods" (or should I just be grateful that Neighbourhood is spelled with a 'U") -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:56, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar | |
For your work on Adelaide localities YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 00:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC) |
Here's a good one for you: Indon. I was arguing against it being said that this is in common usage in Australia - but now I've got to whether it is notable as a heading in newspapers. ha ha. One for the "Aust" notice board? -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, how have you been. I was wondering if you had time to look at an article for me that is being disrupted by an anon user. He/she continues to revert the article after I have left 3 messages on the anon's talk page, the anon did the same today. I also opened up the subject on the article talk page but the anon user doesn't seem to be interested in anything I say. What should I do? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/124.187.169.53 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayman_Mitchell
Thanks in advance for your help. Darrenss ( talk) 00:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, again. I don't have much time on wikipedia these days so I only pop in to see what's happening in the articles I have edited. Just a question, I didn't press "undo" but removed the link by editing the page, would that still count as 3 reverts? Darrenss ( talk) 03:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, we are missing each other here. Let me explain what I mean: it's a geographical area, and should have coordinates of some sort listed. Since there are not any coordinates on there now, the {{ coord missing}} template should remain in place.
Does that make sense? I'm sorry that I couldn't make myself clear in the editsummary, I figured I'd drop the stick and chat with you about it here! Cheers, tedder ( talk) 05:03, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Haven't seen you around in a while. Nice to see your name pop up on my watchlist again. :) لenna vecia 13:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Geez.. not that's not too good! what happened, do you get stuff stolen or something along those lines? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 12:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Was only a thought that I didn't state but it's a shame we couldn't use Timezones [e.g AEDT] or states so that if a state or timezone changes were made we could easily fix with one click rather having to use a bot or do it one article at a time. Anyway I should head of at I'll hope to have some photos of The National Party pollies (Fed and State) but it's nice and early in the morning (7am). Bidgee ( talk) 13:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
my recollection of content placement and movement does not appear to coincide with history. my apologies for editing based on assumptions and not actual status/facts. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello... thanks for your input, and I do appreciate your concerns. However, I do have to take issue with certain aspects of what you wrote, given that I believe they do not accurately represent the event in question. I, too, am uninvolved in the articles in question, other than noticing and reverting an IP identified by another admin (Hiberniantears) as a likely sock of a previously blocked editor. The move to protect the page against a disruptive IP's actions was following an identical move by Hiberniantears, so I do not know why I was singled out in this case. Anyway, to reiterate, I do think that your reverts were in error (sorry to say) and that the situation should have been investigated in greater detail before you simply reverted two other admins. Just my two cents, though. -- Ckatz chat spy 04:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
You might wish to take a look at this. The editor in question does not appear to be familiar with WP:EL and is arguing for deletion of an important external link on the basis of WP:SOURCES. Perhaps you could explain the difference between a source and an external link to them. I've tried to post messages on their talk page, but they simply blank them without bothering to respond. They have also chosen not to respond to the talk comments here which offer a detailed justification for the appropriatness of the link - which they are now attempting to supplant with a link to vastly inferior, largely inaccurate and years out-of-date DMOZ page. -- 203.166.245.85 ( talk) 06:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought this might be an article subject of interest to you. Cheers. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 19:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
hi Orderinchaos, Of course "racism" was not my motive to start that article. I've read a lot about Australian infanticide in the tribes in the 20 century. The sources are neutral. actually, the sources do not condemn infanticide. They only describe it. As I told you in talk page, they are old because Australians don't do it anymore. Any substantial reason to not restore those sources? I would recommend your reading of the article infanticide. You will see that *all* cultures practiced it. (By the way, yesterday I watched the film Australia with Nicole Kidman :) Thantalteresco ( talk) 10:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I've responded to your comment at my own talk page. Earthlyreason ( talk) 16:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi OIC. My general practice where there is not a UC/L figure available is to use the SS figure and note in the prose that the figure relates to the "[town] and the surrounding area". It seems to me to be a little perverse not to accept the ABS definition of the Meelon "area", although I have to admit that I have absolutely no knowledge of the local geography. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I believe it fails WP:ORG. I've seen things like this redirected into suburb articles but personally I don't think all schools should be redirected. LibStar ( talk) 01:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
What do you make of Godwin Grech? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 02:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
It's important that we recognise party divisions only as recognised by the electoral commissions. Almost all candidates who run as "unaffiliated" are representatives of some unregistered party; this doesn't mean that we say that they are representatives of that party. That Wainwright is a member of the Socialist Alliance is stated under the candidate list; the election box should record the official result, which lists him as unaffiliated. I note that Lorrimar, in the same by-election, used DLP material, but since this party has not contested any elections in WA for a while, it would be ridiculous to list her as DLP. Frickeg ( talk) 03:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi OIC. Is Alex Ryan really that notable to be included in the article on Perth? I hate to say it but I wouldn't know him from a hole in the ground! Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 12:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello. You have previously commented on issues related to User:NYScholar. I have just proposed that NYScholar be community banned here. I am contacting you partly because your participation in the discussion would be welcome, but also because I have referred to your past comments, and want to give you the chance to ensure that I am not misconstruing them or using them out of context. Best, Steve Smith ( talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 07:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Orderinchaos. Thanks for your helpful comment on my user page about the cc-by-sa - I'll contact Raymond Allen with that when I get a chance! Regards, PhantomSteve ( Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
Orderinchaos, may I ask for your help? The AN/I discussion concerning "bias" on Andrew Vachss has been archived without a resolution. [1] I wasn't the one who filed the incident report, but I would like very much to have a decision. A conclusion along the logic you laid out in your comment would be great, as I hope to speed the removal of the bias banner that was added to the Vachss article when Plh25.0/ 65.110.137.227 opened the AN/I report. Could you review and resolve the situation? Thanks very much for your help, and have a wonderful New Year! Golemarch ( talk) 09:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Since the site is still biased I think a bias banner should remain. Perhaps golemarch could explain why and how he thinks the matter was resolved? I saw a great deal of "wikilawyering" and no real discussion of the actual facts of the matter concerning the biases in the article. Did we ever reach an agreement? For that matter, did Golemarch and I ever actually discuss anything? Thanks. plh25.0 Plh25.0 ( talk) 08:53, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hey there, Orderinchaos! Happy new
Gregorian year. All the best for the new year, both towards you and your family and friends too. I know that I am the only person lonely enough to be running this thing as the new year is ushered in, but meh, what are you going to do. I like to keep my templated messages in a satisfactorily melancholy tone. ;)
Congratulations to Coren, Wizardman, Vassyana, Carcharoth, Jayvdb, Casliber, Risker, Roger Davies, Cool Hand Luke and Rlevse, who were all appointed to the Arbitration Committee after the ArbCom elections. I am sure I am but a voice of many when I say I trust the aforementioned users to improve the committee, each in their own way, as listed within their respective election statements. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to update the 2009 article, heh. Best wishes, neuro (talk) 00:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC) |
Trust there is no snow wherever you may be - cheers Satu Suro 10:49, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Also I have developed a deep suspicion for those who use external links as refs as in [2] I was sure there was something no kosher or MOS correct about such a phenomenon - your opinion/policy short cut/cure/advice? Satu Suro 10:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Demands on you from all corners - gmail as well and Im getting off for some cold water - cheers Satu Suro 12:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
For article Revo Soekatno, I am intrigue. If you do believe the article should be deleted, let's nominate it and see the outcome. Serenity id ( talk) 15:27, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Orderinchaos: thanks for your comment. I've replied
there.
Serenity: that doesn't sound like a good idea - better for all that energy to be used on improving the article. -- Chriswaterguy talk 16:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Dear Orderinchaos,
Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.
Kind regards,
Majorly talk 21:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Hello, could you please delete List of Adventures in Odyssey characters for me, then move User:American Eagle/Sandbox5 into it, then undelete List of Adventures in Odyssey characters. Thank you, and have a Happy New Year! ✼ American Eagle ( talk) 03:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Archive : January 2009
I think the electoral district article is good to go btw, YellowMonkey ( bananabucket) 04:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus_2 is renamed Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern European disputes by motion.
For the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 10:19, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I was surprised that it actually worked. I tried it for Viet -> English and every sentence had obvious misnomers all over the place.
Good to see you've been expanding Brian Burke. The article still doesn't have an image. I note that Mr Burke will be making an appearance in Perth today (Monday 12-Jan) at Perth Magistrates' Court. Could be an opportunity for a Perthian to grab a photo of him ;) Cheers, Lester 22:35, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Geoffrey Edelsten states that the Wikipedia article about him is highly defamatory, and damaging.
There are a number of defamatory and damaging statements. One in particular as followings;
He subsequently spent a year in jail for hiring an underworld figure, Christopher Dale Flannery, to assault a former patient, and for perverting the course of justice.[5][6][7]
- This media statement is greatly different than actual charges seen at http://www.geoffreyedelsten.com/the-australian-criminal-reports-1990-vol51.pdf
- The charge was in fact “soliciting” not “hiring” – the use of “hiring” is defamatory, the fact can be found in the charge as follows; http://www.geoffreyedelsten.com/the-australian-criminal-reports-1990-vol51.pdf
- The charge does not refer “a former patient” instead referred to as “another”, – the use of “a former patient” is defamatory, the fact can be found in the charge as follows; http://www.geoffreyedelsten.com/the-australian-criminal-reports-1990-vol51.pdf
- The alleged “another” as seen in the charges stood trial for the attempted extortion of Edelsten. “another” was the man who in 1984 harassed and intimidated Edelsten and his family to extort money with menaces. This other side is not covered, and by its absence presents a highly biased view. “another” was later sentenced to 3 and a 1/2 years prison for fraud of an Australian Government Agency of more than $330,000.
- Flannery was not considered an underworld figure in 1984 – the date as set out in the charges. Flannery was only considered an underworld figure in media reports (seen above) that date from 1987 onward. There is an absence of such information between 1984 and 1987. Flannery was not considered an underworld figure in 1984.
Recent attempts to correct/unbias the article have been wholly removed.
Geoffrey Edelsten states that the Wikipedia article about him is highly defamatory and damaging.-- Gepa ( talk) 06:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
I have passed on your comment to Dr Edelsten. I should have a response soon.-- Gepa ( talk) 06:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah i heard that it's been really hot over there! That's a bit too hot though. :P Aaroncrick ( talk) 09:03, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
What's going on here? Reminds me of this. -- Merbabu ( talk) 13:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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Can you please fix this page so it includes a blank template that can be copied and pasted? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ( Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I think you made a mistake on this one. I missed the prod on my watchlist so I am commenting now. Cavill Avenue is a major tourist destination on the Gold Coast. The mall is the centre of activies during Schoolies Week and the centre of retail outlets in Surfer's Paradise. There are numerous notable buildings that have an address on the street. Cavill Avenue is probably the state's most well-known avenue. It is far from simply a suburban shopping street. Notability is not an issue. Since we don't delete articles because they lack sources, have points of view and few wikilinks could you revert your deletion so the article can be improved. - Shiftchange ( talk) 08:58, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I would've asked you for a nomination but it seems you were on break at the time. Enigma msg 17:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
* (you can always tell when it's school holidays.) yeah and when the car temp checks out the ambient temp to be 51 C - trust you are keeping cool Satu Suro 12:32, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Can you please check ar:كالغورلي to make sure I haven't insulted anyone's mother or anything? :) Thanks. Orderinchaos 08:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it. YellowMonkey ( bananabucket) 04:28, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
hooray! - the journo's have been pretty busy on this one, I reckon... and it's great to see you out there! - hopefully it'll increase interest in the chapter in due course, and it's not really a bad article overall, I reckon :-) Privatemusings ( talk) 07:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP ( talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Re: this edit, which I incidentally agree with: see this story on AM about the, um, interesting weather recording equipment used in Cloncurry when that temperature was recorded. Graham 87 00:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
The ministries that have simply another number look dodgy imho Satu Suro 01:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Nah in the template on the screen you see Jack Bloggs 1 and then just a 2 next to it :) Satu Suro 01:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I saw ya - if you want a good dose of paranoia just follow the conversation that graham87 and I have been having :( gosh golly yuk Satu Suro 14:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
The article Electoral district of Perth you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . It hasn't failed because it's basically a good article, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Electoral district of Perth for things needed to be addressed. Arsenikk (talk) 22:53, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Would you mind having a look at his MHS image upload? You're obviously aware of this user's history, the image looks too professional to be work that he claims to have created himself. Timeshift ( talk) 00:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
You gonna tell me he/she/it is a physician, or a medical doctor, or a phd in something? There is nothing in the text of the article that says anything about early life, profession (well in earlier life) at all Satu Suro 06:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation - I too remember lines from some songs from the deep past that play on stuff I see here as well - but in most cases I leave it out lest others think im completely out of it :) (more than I really am) - cheers Satu Suro 09:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
... in the recent Oversight election. Daniel Case ( talk) 21:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello there. Heavy expansion work there on BD, hey?. nice -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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I'm sorry I didn't respond to this earlier, but I just noticed your comment on the Assessment working group MfD page regarding WikiProject Coordinators (sometimes also referred to as Lead Coordinators). It is becoming more and more common practice to have this position in WikiProjects (see Military History, Films, and Novels for usage). It is a position elected within the WikiProject for making someone responsible for maintaining all of the procedural and administrative aspects of the WikiProject, in addition to serving as the designated points-of-contact for procedural issues and concerns. They are not, however, endowed with an special executive powers nor with any authority over article content or editor conduct. I hope this explanation alleviates any concerns the use of this term might have inspired in you. hornoir ( talk) 03:56, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council/Assessment_working_group - having read the whole thing rather quickly - it stinks. Just because a few projects have had fall guys like milhist - does not mean that the majority of current active projects have anything that might have a single person as respresenting anything that might be either a coodinator or representative - it smells - also I would not like to see what this mob might do to temporarily dormant projects or revivable projects - I believe that nothing good will come of it the way the discussion is going at the moment.
As for real tasks for the project - most projects have such limited understanding what good project management is - let alone even being able to maintain interest and involvement - sorry I think there is a terrible waste of time being invested in something that seems to be diverging from tasks that need attending to within WP. I do hope some bright sparks may prove me wrong. Satu Suro 14:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi do you know if there is a way to list all the subpages of my user page? I think I might have an unnecessary sandbox page floating around, but I can't remember the name of it. TIA -- Surturz ( talk) 00:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
I saw your comment there, and figured I should clarify a misunderstanding you seem to have about the GFDL - GFDL licensed work requires attribution just the same as any current CC license. — neuro (talk) 23:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
13 degrees in the middle of summer! haha. I've heard of it getting even worse over there. I live in Tasmania and haven't experienced a 13 degree day in summer. And the rain!! Wish some of it could fall over the midlands and the eastern half of the state. Before you say anything, yes some parts of Tasmania are in drought and even got a dust storm at home the other day. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 10:02, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Our friend is back. Djanga 13:20, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing my errors at Queensland state election, 2009. I got so caught up in finding the dates (I only found the link with all of them after I finished most of them) that I forgot double check everything was right. - Rrius ( talk) 05:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I have taken it, (the town template issue) to the noticeboard just for a check against the general mob - scuse any aspersions/nasturtions about it 'should have been there' 'and 'not there' - it might just get a note or two Satu Suro 07:01, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I am really glad dan arndt showed up I had hoped he would if anyone has a good handle on that it is he Satu Suro 11:47, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Assuming you have the references, could you please check the timeline of Stubbs's changing party affiliations at Electoral district of Wagin? Cheers. Digestible ( talk) 18:56, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
But the electoral districts aren't named for their geography, but after the suburbs. And suburbs are typically ordered by their first letter. See Category:Suburbs of Perth, Western Australia Digestible ( talk) 11:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Versus22 talk 04:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
That's okay. Did you contest a state by-election in the recent past? Digestible ( talk) 00:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
Just a heads up that I have raised this. I am tired of content disputes ending up with you accusing me of debating for the point of debating, and now stooping to accusations of lack of content contributions. Timeshift ( talk) 06:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
When it comes to CfD, I am afraid I am suffering from battle fatigue! I might win the odd scrap, but the war over the philosophy and direction of category naming has been lost a long time ago. I am convinced that the regs at CfD do not understand the somewhat hierarchical nature of categories and that the name of a category is much less important than the parents and children of that category. Best to use that hierarchical tree to remove ambiguity rather than create monstrosities as category names.
As for the specific case of Australian doctors, I have given that one a bit of thought. The new name, of course, is a disaster; a complete tautology like "cooking chefs" and "legal lawyers". It also ignores the spirit of WP:ENGVAR, "doctor" is the unambiguous name for the professionals in that field in Australia. The new name is actually more ambiguous than the original; the term "Medical Doctors", if anything other than a tautology means "holders of a Doctorate in Medicine". The category name, if read literally, excludes holders of a MBBS that the Australian vernacular term "doctor" actually includes! Finally, surely categorisation by Higher Education degree is overcategorisation by anyone's definition, so there is zero chance that Category:Australian doctors would contain holders of a doctorate (other than those trained in medicine of course)
While a return to the simple and clear Australian vernacular Category:Australian doctors would be preferred, there is zero chance of getting that up while the North American participants at CfD claim to be "confused" by Australian terminology. Perhaps a new name of Category:Australian medical practitioners would be a reasonable compromise. It removes the tautology and the added ambiguity of "medical doctors" and is a term used by Medicare when handing out provider numbers.
I agree, the "discussion" at CfD about this category saw no consensus for any course of action, including retaining the status quo and DRV seeking an overturn and relist would be entirely appropriate. However, it would be like poking a hornet's nest. I don't know if I can be bothered with the ensuing dramaz TBH. Good luck either way! -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:11, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_February_19&action=edit§ion=12 is a very good example of what is wrong when one has to tackle the issue with the mob - I support both matt and bidgee that a rename to australin medical practitioners is much better Satu Suro 23:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I think this thread could benefit from some data:
User | Endorsed original proposal: "Australian doctors" |
Endorsed revised proposal: "Australian medical doctors" |
---|---|---|
AussieLegend | No | Yes |
Bidgee | No | No |
Cgingold | — | Yes |
Eastlaw | Yes, proposer | Yes |
Gnangarra | No | "... would be reasonable cats as subcats of medical doctor" = apparently no objection? |
Good Ol'factory | — | "it could work in the US and UK context, but perhaps not in some of the other countries" |
Johnbod | — | Yes |
Mattinbgn | No | No |
Occuli | — | Yes, proposer |
Peripitus | No | — |
Peterkingiron | No | "would not object if that was the consensus" |
SatuSuro | No | Yes |
Totals (Firm yes / doubtful or no objection / firm no) | 1 / 0 / 7 | 6 / 3 / 2 |
Hesperian 00:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Yep, six (count 'em - 6) people support a rename of a category to a name that was not originally listed in the rename proposal and was only proposed in the middle of the discussion and this is deemed "consensus"; thus giving us a piss poor category name that is actually more ambiguous than the original. Top this off with another example of the continual low level hostility that exudes from CfD in the closing summary. Another great example of the CfD process in action. As I said, it's pointless engaging with the CfD process, it's broken and it aint getting fixed anytime soon. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 02:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Hi. Somehow we missed this lady's appointment to the WA LC to replace Vince Catania. I've updated all the places I can think of ( Members of the Western Australian Legislative Council, 2005–2009, Candidates of the Western Australian state election, 2005, Electoral region of Mining and Pastoral). I just thought I'd let you know, seeing as you're much more knowledgeable on WA politics than I am, in case I missed any. Thanks. Frickeg ( talk) 01:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Ooops, I now realise what that category actually means. Sorry if I created any extra work for you but I had thought it meant politicians in Western Australia. I'll be more careful in future. -- Hughesdarren ( talk) 05:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
When working on the template, I did note that there was the presence of major suburbs of Mandurah, Western Australia.
So what do we need to do with Mandurah and the Shires of Murray, Waroona and/or Boddington. Should we put Boddington in with Great Southern and Mandurah, Murray and Waroona in the South West, or we set up a Lower West template and take all the localities in the meteorological region (Peel and Gingin) outside the Perth Metropolitan area -- Andyman14 ( talk) 14:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Have finally made good my threat of redoing this list (and renaming it)-fairly complete, a few places yet unlocated and may be some neighbourhoods placed in the wrong locality (on the other side of road or creek etc) so could use some help on this (All the spelling is OK though)- Many of the linked articles where all the info. is supposed to be will need some work but I will be doing this shortly. Could it be 2 or 3 page list?? If so, I dont know how to achieve this ( Epistemos ( talk) 06:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)).
Yes, sure. Send them to me. Although if I haven't done them by months end I probably won't get around to them for some time after that. Also, do you have necessary information to complete List of Queensland state by-elections? There doesn't appear to be anything on the Qld parliament website. Digestible ( talk) 18:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
I did a silly thing.... I (very stupidly and incorrectly) named a page Prince Regent River Nature Reserve which should be Prince Regent Nature Reserve, then instead of moving the page I (even more stupidly) just cut and pasted it over to the new page name. Now an administrator has to fix up my mistakes, could you do the page move for me please? Sorry, I'll go and have sleep for a bit. -- Hughesdarren ( talk) 03:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
We get so many like these in the WP Indonesia project I usually want to prod on sight http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Network would appreciate your eagle eye and sword of discriminatory experience :( Satu Suro 10:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
No, they didn't - I'm fairly convinced, actually, that the template itself was fundamentally flawed. As far as I know, it is impossible to have coloured links in Wikipedia, which negates all the templated colour stuff the other template uses. However, I see no problem with the ones currently being used (I changed the 2008 list) for these. Have fun - especially with (joy of joys) the Legislative Council! (This is the reason that Queensland, which so obligingly got rid of the upper house all those years ago, is much, much easier to make candidate lists for.) Frickeg ( talk) 01:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
We have some massive suburbs here in Launnie ;) Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 11:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that! :) That's what I was thinking, but before I went and changed everything I just wanted to ask. Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 10:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Man, what is your problem today? Nobody would block over such a trivial content dispute, especially when I'm one of very few people involved with these articles who actually cites policy.
Do you seriously dispute that historians are now claiming the ADF had inside knowledge of the situation in East Timor? Do you seriously claim that it is original research to say Howard calibrated his military posture to project Australian forces to Timor Leste? It's more or less a direct quote, and follows years worth of literature put out to counter the Dibbs doctrine. Ottre 11:06, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
But what an F nuisance - It brings back memories of all the surveyed townsd in western tas that hardly existed for even 10 years :( - will tryo to catch up over the trans line tmeplate i was thinking of off wiki Satu Suro 07:04, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. I hit the rollback button on u by mistake at Howard Government. -- Merbabu ( talk) 13:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
Sorry -- my mistake. Next time, I'll look at the delete log, to understand it got deleted, then restored since it was already about an entirely different film. Still learning. -- SV Resolution( Talk) 15:57, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Be amused by my messy message at the Tasmanian project noticeboard - the numbner of red link pollies who are still active in rattling their pension tins [3] in the faces of the electorate is not short Satu Suro 23:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
I notice you are deleting various categories with no discussion, no CfD, no notification to the creator, etc. This includes replacing one category name with another which in some cases is no improvement and is less helpful for navigation. 'Housekeeping' is no justification for this. Please discuss. Hmains ( talk) 20:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
I can only concur with everything said by OIC above. CfD is a sham and broken beyond repair and working through the CfD process leads to worse outcomes by any measure. I support OICs actions to sort out the mess created by CfD (Note that categories relating to universities are being systematically made useless at the moment and will require fixing once CfD get their mitts off them). Actions on Wikipedia should not be judged by whether they "follow process" or "meet consensus" but by whether they improve the encyclopedia. His edits are not disruptive, have improved the encyclopedia and fixed the mess created by a blind following of a process run by a small clique in pursuit of their own agenda. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 00:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks guys :) Much appreciated. Orderinchaos 03:34, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Interesting to note the name of Category:Neighbourhoods in Australia. Would this not be better off named Category:Suburbs in Australia per AuE rather than using the Americanised " term "Neighbourhoods" (or should I just be grateful that Neighbourhood is spelled with a 'U") -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:56, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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For your work on Adelaide localities YellowMonkey ( cricket calendar poll!) 00:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC) |
Here's a good one for you: Indon. I was arguing against it being said that this is in common usage in Australia - but now I've got to whether it is notable as a heading in newspapers. ha ha. One for the "Aust" notice board? -- Merbabu ( talk) 12:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi, how have you been. I was wondering if you had time to look at an article for me that is being disrupted by an anon user. He/she continues to revert the article after I have left 3 messages on the anon's talk page, the anon did the same today. I also opened up the subject on the article talk page but the anon user doesn't seem to be interested in anything I say. What should I do? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/124.187.169.53 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayman_Mitchell
Thanks in advance for your help. Darrenss ( talk) 00:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, again. I don't have much time on wikipedia these days so I only pop in to see what's happening in the articles I have edited. Just a question, I didn't press "undo" but removed the link by editing the page, would that still count as 3 reverts? Darrenss ( talk) 03:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Okay, we are missing each other here. Let me explain what I mean: it's a geographical area, and should have coordinates of some sort listed. Since there are not any coordinates on there now, the {{ coord missing}} template should remain in place.
Does that make sense? I'm sorry that I couldn't make myself clear in the editsummary, I figured I'd drop the stick and chat with you about it here! Cheers, tedder ( talk) 05:03, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Haven't seen you around in a while. Nice to see your name pop up on my watchlist again. :) لenna vecia 13:49, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
Geez.. not that's not too good! what happened, do you get stuff stolen or something along those lines? Aaroncrick (Tassie Boy talk) 12:48, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Was only a thought that I didn't state but it's a shame we couldn't use Timezones [e.g AEDT] or states so that if a state or timezone changes were made we could easily fix with one click rather having to use a bot or do it one article at a time. Anyway I should head of at I'll hope to have some photos of The National Party pollies (Fed and State) but it's nice and early in the morning (7am). Bidgee ( talk) 13:21, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
my recollection of content placement and movement does not appear to coincide with history. my apologies for editing based on assumptions and not actual status/facts. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:10, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello... thanks for your input, and I do appreciate your concerns. However, I do have to take issue with certain aspects of what you wrote, given that I believe they do not accurately represent the event in question. I, too, am uninvolved in the articles in question, other than noticing and reverting an IP identified by another admin (Hiberniantears) as a likely sock of a previously blocked editor. The move to protect the page against a disruptive IP's actions was following an identical move by Hiberniantears, so I do not know why I was singled out in this case. Anyway, to reiterate, I do think that your reverts were in error (sorry to say) and that the situation should have been investigated in greater detail before you simply reverted two other admins. Just my two cents, though. -- Ckatz chat spy 04:02, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
You might wish to take a look at this. The editor in question does not appear to be familiar with WP:EL and is arguing for deletion of an important external link on the basis of WP:SOURCES. Perhaps you could explain the difference between a source and an external link to them. I've tried to post messages on their talk page, but they simply blank them without bothering to respond. They have also chosen not to respond to the talk comments here which offer a detailed justification for the appropriatness of the link - which they are now attempting to supplant with a link to vastly inferior, largely inaccurate and years out-of-date DMOZ page. -- 203.166.245.85 ( talk) 06:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought this might be an article subject of interest to you. Cheers. ChildofMidnight ( talk) 19:59, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
hi Orderinchaos, Of course "racism" was not my motive to start that article. I've read a lot about Australian infanticide in the tribes in the 20 century. The sources are neutral. actually, the sources do not condemn infanticide. They only describe it. As I told you in talk page, they are old because Australians don't do it anymore. Any substantial reason to not restore those sources? I would recommend your reading of the article infanticide. You will see that *all* cultures practiced it. (By the way, yesterday I watched the film Australia with Nicole Kidman :) Thantalteresco ( talk) 10:17, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I've responded to your comment at my own talk page. Earthlyreason ( talk) 16:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi OIC. My general practice where there is not a UC/L figure available is to use the SS figure and note in the prose that the figure relates to the "[town] and the surrounding area". It seems to me to be a little perverse not to accept the ABS definition of the Meelon "area", although I have to admit that I have absolutely no knowledge of the local geography. -- Mattinbgn\ talk 04:56, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I believe it fails WP:ORG. I've seen things like this redirected into suburb articles but personally I don't think all schools should be redirected. LibStar ( talk) 01:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
What do you make of Godwin Grech? ChildofMidnight ( talk) 02:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
It's important that we recognise party divisions only as recognised by the electoral commissions. Almost all candidates who run as "unaffiliated" are representatives of some unregistered party; this doesn't mean that we say that they are representatives of that party. That Wainwright is a member of the Socialist Alliance is stated under the candidate list; the election box should record the official result, which lists him as unaffiliated. I note that Lorrimar, in the same by-election, used DLP material, but since this party has not contested any elections in WA for a while, it would be ridiculous to list her as DLP. Frickeg ( talk) 03:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi OIC. Is Alex Ryan really that notable to be included in the article on Perth? I hate to say it but I wouldn't know him from a hole in the ground! Cheers, Mattinbgn\ talk 12:21, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello. You have previously commented on issues related to User:NYScholar. I have just proposed that NYScholar be community banned here. I am contacting you partly because your participation in the discussion would be welcome, but also because I have referred to your past comments, and want to give you the chance to ensure that I am not misconstruing them or using them out of context. Best, Steve Smith ( talk) (formerly Sarcasticidealist) 07:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Hello, Orderinchaos. Thanks for your helpful comment on my user page about the cc-by-sa - I'll contact Raymond Allen with that when I get a chance! Regards, PhantomSteve ( Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:53, 30 June 2009 (UTC)