Archive : July 2008
Excuse my commenting out of a transclusion of {{dist km mile}} on your subpage but those dist templates are not so great. I'll be putting {{ tfd}}s on them. {{ Convert}} does a better job or for infoboxes try {{ convinfobox}}. JIMp talk· cont 05:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your attention to the WorkerBee74 situation. On a related note, would you mind looking over the activity of User:Shem as well (I've leaft a note at WP:ANI as well)? Although I do not believe any blocks or other similar actions are necessary for him, my perception is that his approach toward other editors has at times been more confrontational than necessary, so some guidance from an uninvolved admin may be beneficial. For that matter, if there's anything I'm doing that you feel I shouldn't be, or am not doing that I maybe should, feel free to cluebat me as well. Thanks, -- Clubjuggle T/ C 10:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
An important discussion on Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. You are receiving this note as you are a member of WikiProject Council -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 12:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Orderinchaos, did Lightmouse answer your concerns to your satisfaction here on Talk:MOSNUM? See my 00:22, 9 July 2008 post. Do those questions and observations match what is on your mind? Is there something I’m missing? Greg L ( talk) 01:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the support! | ||
Orderinchaos, it is my honor to report that thanks in part to your support my third request for adminship passed (80/18/2). I appreciate the trust you and the WP community have in me, and I will endeovour to put my newly acquired mop and bucket to work for the community as a whole. Yours sincerly and respectfuly, TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:28, 9 July 2008 (UTC) |
I think the information I've uncovered is something you'll want to see. You mentioned the previous block of User:WorkerBee74 when you blocked him again, and said you were blocking for a week in part because of the previous block. I'm not going to argue on behalf of WB74 that the block should be taken off or even shortened, but shortening it in light of this information is something I think you will want to consider. I didn't name you or criticize your block in this report, but please take a look at it: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Scjessey lying, gaming the system, POV pushing. I welcome your continued watching of the Obama pages. Noroton ( talk) 20:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Whats your source? There is still a hell of a lot of work with it but hey your editing hours are intriguing i do hope you dont need medical attention after that :) Pastoral leases of course - the homestead pastoral lease cross checking will still happen, but hey that was a small leap - thanks for that. Satu Suro 00:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I think we gotta be careful that we claim that they are all current and that they are on the list - but hey will have the list in the next week or so Satu Suro 02:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
And i think we need some sort of indicator at the top of the list as to where they might be easily located on a map Satu Suro 02:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
One big problem is the linking to the regions and local governments in the a and b - do you think the links should be dropped/removed - or only the first mentioned - or what? it has me flummoxed Satu Suro 03:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello!
You blocked the above IP for a month as per the relevant ANI thread. Would you mind adding a block template to his talk page to notify him of this? I would have done it but it's a no-no for non-admins.
Thanks! SWik78 ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
..and saw your music choices on the front page! Nice selection :). You might want to try Pure Reason Revolution, later Anathema and The Pineapple Thief if you haven't already. New Oceansize album is fantastic, if you don't have that already. Ironho lds 21:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Same with the new Snedden picture, same with any free substitutes for the hundred other photos removed. Not happy. Timeshift ( talk) 21:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Try DRV if you like, but I'll caution you that DRV on any of those is really unlikely to be successful; these are very "textbook" examples. The advice I pointed Timeshift9 to is the best advice there is if your goal is populating Australian politician articles with photos; if you need any other help I'm glad to offer (although perhaps you wouldn't be interested). Wily D 22:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
"I got into these same kind of frustrations back when I was young, but eventually I came to really get excited whenever I could score some free images" - how patronising. Look at my user page. I would be confident of having contributed the most free images for Australian Politics articles. But some simply do not have a free image that exists, and even with the highly secluded lives former politicians live in, a photo now would be useless, so the highly unlikely is highly useless, it is not a viable option. There is no way out of this and no way to lessen the blow of removing these images, the only images taken at the time. There is no alternative, and the articles will suffer permanently thanks to deletionists. Timeshift ( talk) 17:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree it's harder with retired people who have left public life, but I do think that a lot of political figures would be willing to release an image under a free license for use on their articles. It's in their best interest really. We just need to write to them politely and explain what we're doing. I've contacted three people like this and all have obliged quite happily. I'm perfectly happy to write to MPs myself and ask for an image if we can compile a list of people we need images for to work off. Sarah 14:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Email. Moondyne 13:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI but when editing templates, be sure that it doesn't add a new line to them, otherwise a new line will be added to every page that transcludes the template ;) Gary King ( talk) 03:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey OIC. Thank you for commenting on my talk page regarding NYScholar's accusations and his inability to present any evidence in support of them. I've written a detailed response to his accusations and I just wanted to ask you to review it and confirm that NYScholar's accusations are groundless. I don't really care about his opinion, but I just don't want to have his bogus and utterly ridiculous 3RR warning and accusations that I have violated the "both the spirit and the letter of WP:3RR" and that I was "violating WP:LOP [the List of Policies] at whim or will" sitting in my archive unresponded to as it will no doubt look to anyone who happens to see it as though the accusations were true. So I was wondering if you get a few minutes sometime, if you wouldn't mind having a look and confirming that the accusations are without foundation. The section on my talk page is here: Response to 3RR and other accusations by NYScholar. Sorry it's a bit long, but it's actually quite straight forward as I had only made a couple of edits to the ANI section in question in the hour or so that NYScholar accuses me of violating 3RR and LOP. If you don't have time, please don't feel under pressure. Cheers, Sarah 14:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Yahel Guhan ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) just readded the section in Religious segregation [1]. I don't want to get invold in this so I thought I'll leave you a message. Bidgee ( talk) 05:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for deleting these articles without any discussion. It takes time for articles to evolve, and I was hoping to slowly add details and references to them over time, but I guess not now. Details on history etc are not to be found on the official transport sites, so I could see a role for these articles. Are they less notable than a myriad of articles on indivuiual railway stations and the like?. I took inspiration for them from List of bus routes in London, I guess by the same token, most of the articles listed on that page are also unreferenced and may be original research and should probably be deleted also. Endarrt ( talk) 01:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Prester John is out there again, editing as Hypopostumus ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Someone needs to block him before he does too much damage. -- 04:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I didn't read your reply to my email, I'm sorry, but I see you and others have been at it trying to fight the deletionist trolls on Australian politicians - thank you. Unfortunately our friend is at it again - see the multiple entries at Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_July_10. This guy is seriously starting to annoy me; it's as though he's making these for fun and to annoy Australian users. He needs to be stopped. JRG ( talk) 05:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Please could you give http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Largest_cities_in_Infonesia&redirect=no a fish to the face? thanks Satu Suro 07:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
You're probably right; I only inferred that Richardson started it because he was the only person I could find affiliated with it. Feel free to change anything; the internet is extremely unhelpful with this one. Frickeg ( talk) 04:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The Workers' Party was a conservative (right-wing 'libertarian') outfit which got off the ground around 1972 in Sydney and Adelaide. Their patron saints were Ayn Rand and Ludwig von Mises. They were basically greedy professionals who regarded taxation as theft. It was connected with and probably launched by the controversial Doctors' Reform Society in Sydney (president David Cunningham, secretary Duncan Yuille). In about 1978, I met several other members of the Workers' Party (and, yes, later Progress Party) in Perth. They recruited sitting member Richardson who had fallen out with the Libs and become an Independent. (I helped him organise a makeshift campaign which was, of course, doomed to failure.) I almost certainly have some documentation which, though, may take a long time to bring to light. Cheers Bjenks ( talk) 13:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Care to comment on the On Dit election rigging? Timeshift ( talk) 06:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't make any sense to have Western Australia having a different convention from the entire rest of the project just because one editor there has a preference for the latter. If you want it changed, then get a consensus to change it. Rebecca ( talk) 07:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The modern majr general song needs to be re-worded for notability :) Satu Suro 02:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind adding your 2c here? Timeshift ( talk) 16:01, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I am a bit hamstrung by ips and others adding birthdays of no article re dlink soccer player names http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indonesia_national_under-19_football_team watcha reckon? (my talk page please dont jumps yet ) Satu Suro 08:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Interested in your thoughts on this. Peter Damian ( talk) 18:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC).
And you know that this annoys the absolute hell out of me, but whatever. I usually can't be bothered fighting procedural issues, but you will not concede a point ever, and I'm fed up with it. Rebecca ( talk) 09:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
You are taking the nat notice board comment to heart? :( Satu Suro 06:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC) Fixing - some need moving to more relevant titles and some are outright misleading by title and content :( Satu Suro 06:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that you deleted the article 2006 Brisbane Cessna 206 crash on July 10, citing an OTRS ticket number and "in particular, is the only similar incident in Category:Aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_Australia". Could you please specify the specific reason for the OTRS deletion? Your edit ( diff) to the article about two weeks before its deletion, removing the names of the survivors, seems to have targeted a BLP concern, and notability issues were addressed in the deletion discussion, which ended with a "no consensus" outcome. I'd appreciate your clarifications. Thanks, – Black Falcon ( Talk) 03:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
You certainly are an "Orderinchaos"!
Mentioning major junctions the way you wish to display them, looks cluttered and for any one that may want to know the route number, in addition to the name of the road in a conventional format should be kept as it was.
If you believe that not all major intersections be listed in the Infobox, you are welcome to reduce this, but please, please do not leave the major junctions cluttered (as you did it). It makes it confusing to read (and longer), and makes the page more untidy.
I will revert them all back, and hope in good faith you will leave the format as is.
Thanks :)
-- Rom rulz424 ( talk) 05:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
PS. I also have reduced the size of the route allocations, so the Infobox is not so big.
Can you restore this version and delete the later edits in this page. Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 07:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your post at Lightmouse's page. MOSNUM no longer encourages date autoformatting, having evolved over the past year or so from the mandatory to the optional after much discussion there and elsewhere of the disadvantages of the system. Related to this, MOSNUM prescribes rules for raw date-formatting, irrespective of whether or not a date is autoformatted. MOSLINK and CONTEXT are consistent with this. There are at least six disadvantages in using date-autoformatting, which I've capped here:
Removal has generally been met with positive responses by editors. I'm interested to receive your feedback. Tony (talk) 01:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank You! Exactly, I don't see why we have to have a "limit" or have to wait for a week to nominate articles, the project barely even pays attention to them.-- S R X 12:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your input and suggestions. I am going to concentrate on teaching how to encode and reference properly before I get carried away on the Kambalda page (baby steps!) I was just wondering, as a teacher, is there a good way of avoiding blatant plagarism (in the context of a high school)? I just know they're all going to try to just cut and paste stuff from other sites...
I don't mean to invade your privacy, but I am very curious as to who you are and how you became a Wiki administrator. I am a second year teacher myself, but to be honest there aren't many other teachers around here who do this sort of thing. Perhaps you should be running PD's??? I would come!
-I have just read your userpage and I have to say I am surprised at how much we have in common! Once again, keep up your great work, you seem like a very valuable person to know!
Dan C
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kambaldawdhs ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Satu Suro 14:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Care to clarify why you think the block is unfortunate . The 3RR page clearly states that exceptions are made for vandalism but not otherwise. Are you accusing me of being a vandal? Perhaps you can explain why no one else was reverting despite a number of people watching the page. For example Gnangarra did not remove the item from the article despite disagreeing with it - he obviously did not think it a BLP violation which was Skyring's justification. Skyring was given the opportunity to avoid the block by self-reverting as the blocking admin thought it not a BLP violation per the article talk page discussion and his own assessment. Skyring declined the opportunity and went on to revert a 5th time. -- Matilda talk 17:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Here's some socks for you! Socks (when they're the clothing variety, rather than the disruptive type) somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully these have made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Acalamari 02:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
That is almost the most disgusting pun I have ever seen on a wikipedia talk page - I hope the sender gets wet socks - and all wikilove persons should be covered in wet socks - with mud as well if possible :) Satu Suro 02:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
There's a link to force the bot to run, which I presume you've been doing. I've lost the url. Can you advise? Moondyne 02:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Like I told Surturz: He can't make a bad edit and then claim I have assumed bad faith. Bad faith is evident, and I called him out on it. He should be talking it out on the talk page.
How is "Reverting this rubbish" not POV?
13:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos. You recently said in another post: "Wikipedia's consensus procedure holds that in order to add something contentious to a contested page, one has to obtain consensus on the talk page first". Does it really say that? Just curious. I'd be interested to know if that is the case. Regards, --
Lester
01:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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Archive : July 2008
Excuse my commenting out of a transclusion of {{dist km mile}} on your subpage but those dist templates are not so great. I'll be putting {{ tfd}}s on them. {{ Convert}} does a better job or for infoboxes try {{ convinfobox}}. JIMp talk· cont 05:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your attention to the WorkerBee74 situation. On a related note, would you mind looking over the activity of User:Shem as well (I've leaft a note at WP:ANI as well)? Although I do not believe any blocks or other similar actions are necessary for him, my perception is that his approach toward other editors has at times been more confrontational than necessary, so some guidance from an uninvolved admin may be beneficial. For that matter, if there's anything I'm doing that you feel I shouldn't be, or am not doing that I maybe should, feel free to cluebat me as well. Thanks, -- Clubjuggle T/ C 10:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
An important discussion on Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? is open here . We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. You are receiving this note as you are a member of WikiProject Council -- TinuCherian (Wanna Talk?) - 12:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Orderinchaos, did Lightmouse answer your concerns to your satisfaction here on Talk:MOSNUM? See my 00:22, 9 July 2008 post. Do those questions and observations match what is on your mind? Is there something I’m missing? Greg L ( talk) 01:27, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for the support! | ||
Orderinchaos, it is my honor to report that thanks in part to your support my third request for adminship passed (80/18/2). I appreciate the trust you and the WP community have in me, and I will endeovour to put my newly acquired mop and bucket to work for the community as a whole. Yours sincerly and respectfuly, TomStar81 ( Talk) 03:28, 9 July 2008 (UTC) |
I think the information I've uncovered is something you'll want to see. You mentioned the previous block of User:WorkerBee74 when you blocked him again, and said you were blocking for a week in part because of the previous block. I'm not going to argue on behalf of WB74 that the block should be taken off or even shortened, but shortening it in light of this information is something I think you will want to consider. I didn't name you or criticize your block in this report, but please take a look at it: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Scjessey lying, gaming the system, POV pushing. I welcome your continued watching of the Obama pages. Noroton ( talk) 20:09, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Whats your source? There is still a hell of a lot of work with it but hey your editing hours are intriguing i do hope you dont need medical attention after that :) Pastoral leases of course - the homestead pastoral lease cross checking will still happen, but hey that was a small leap - thanks for that. Satu Suro 00:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I think we gotta be careful that we claim that they are all current and that they are on the list - but hey will have the list in the next week or so Satu Suro 02:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
And i think we need some sort of indicator at the top of the list as to where they might be easily located on a map Satu Suro 02:45, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
One big problem is the linking to the regions and local governments in the a and b - do you think the links should be dropped/removed - or only the first mentioned - or what? it has me flummoxed Satu Suro 03:05, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Hello!
You blocked the above IP for a month as per the relevant ANI thread. Would you mind adding a block template to his talk page to notify him of this? I would have done it but it's a no-no for non-admins.
Thanks! SWik78 ( talk • contribs) 20:21, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
..and saw your music choices on the front page! Nice selection :). You might want to try Pure Reason Revolution, later Anathema and The Pineapple Thief if you haven't already. New Oceansize album is fantastic, if you don't have that already. Ironho lds 21:02, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Same with the new Snedden picture, same with any free substitutes for the hundred other photos removed. Not happy. Timeshift ( talk) 21:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Try DRV if you like, but I'll caution you that DRV on any of those is really unlikely to be successful; these are very "textbook" examples. The advice I pointed Timeshift9 to is the best advice there is if your goal is populating Australian politician articles with photos; if you need any other help I'm glad to offer (although perhaps you wouldn't be interested). Wily D 22:47, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
"I got into these same kind of frustrations back when I was young, but eventually I came to really get excited whenever I could score some free images" - how patronising. Look at my user page. I would be confident of having contributed the most free images for Australian Politics articles. But some simply do not have a free image that exists, and even with the highly secluded lives former politicians live in, a photo now would be useless, so the highly unlikely is highly useless, it is not a viable option. There is no way out of this and no way to lessen the blow of removing these images, the only images taken at the time. There is no alternative, and the articles will suffer permanently thanks to deletionists. Timeshift ( talk) 17:34, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree it's harder with retired people who have left public life, but I do think that a lot of political figures would be willing to release an image under a free license for use on their articles. It's in their best interest really. We just need to write to them politely and explain what we're doing. I've contacted three people like this and all have obliged quite happily. I'm perfectly happy to write to MPs myself and ask for an image if we can compile a list of people we need images for to work off. Sarah 14:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Email. Moondyne 13:48, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Just FYI but when editing templates, be sure that it doesn't add a new line to them, otherwise a new line will be added to every page that transcludes the template ;) Gary King ( talk) 03:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey OIC. Thank you for commenting on my talk page regarding NYScholar's accusations and his inability to present any evidence in support of them. I've written a detailed response to his accusations and I just wanted to ask you to review it and confirm that NYScholar's accusations are groundless. I don't really care about his opinion, but I just don't want to have his bogus and utterly ridiculous 3RR warning and accusations that I have violated the "both the spirit and the letter of WP:3RR" and that I was "violating WP:LOP [the List of Policies] at whim or will" sitting in my archive unresponded to as it will no doubt look to anyone who happens to see it as though the accusations were true. So I was wondering if you get a few minutes sometime, if you wouldn't mind having a look and confirming that the accusations are without foundation. The section on my talk page is here: Response to 3RR and other accusations by NYScholar. Sorry it's a bit long, but it's actually quite straight forward as I had only made a couple of edits to the ANI section in question in the hour or so that NYScholar accuses me of violating 3RR and LOP. If you don't have time, please don't feel under pressure. Cheers, Sarah 14:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Yahel Guhan ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) just readded the section in Religious segregation [1]. I don't want to get invold in this so I thought I'll leave you a message. Bidgee ( talk) 05:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for deleting these articles without any discussion. It takes time for articles to evolve, and I was hoping to slowly add details and references to them over time, but I guess not now. Details on history etc are not to be found on the official transport sites, so I could see a role for these articles. Are they less notable than a myriad of articles on indivuiual railway stations and the like?. I took inspiration for them from List of bus routes in London, I guess by the same token, most of the articles listed on that page are also unreferenced and may be original research and should probably be deleted also. Endarrt ( talk) 01:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Prester John is out there again, editing as Hypopostumus ( talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Someone needs to block him before he does too much damage. -- 04:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I didn't read your reply to my email, I'm sorry, but I see you and others have been at it trying to fight the deletionist trolls on Australian politicians - thank you. Unfortunately our friend is at it again - see the multiple entries at Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_July_10. This guy is seriously starting to annoy me; it's as though he's making these for fun and to annoy Australian users. He needs to be stopped. JRG ( talk) 05:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Please could you give http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Largest_cities_in_Infonesia&redirect=no a fish to the face? thanks Satu Suro 07:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
You're probably right; I only inferred that Richardson started it because he was the only person I could find affiliated with it. Feel free to change anything; the internet is extremely unhelpful with this one. Frickeg ( talk) 04:48, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The Workers' Party was a conservative (right-wing 'libertarian') outfit which got off the ground around 1972 in Sydney and Adelaide. Their patron saints were Ayn Rand and Ludwig von Mises. They were basically greedy professionals who regarded taxation as theft. It was connected with and probably launched by the controversial Doctors' Reform Society in Sydney (president David Cunningham, secretary Duncan Yuille). In about 1978, I met several other members of the Workers' Party (and, yes, later Progress Party) in Perth. They recruited sitting member Richardson who had fallen out with the Libs and become an Independent. (I helped him organise a makeshift campaign which was, of course, doomed to failure.) I almost certainly have some documentation which, though, may take a long time to bring to light. Cheers Bjenks ( talk) 13:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Care to comment on the On Dit election rigging? Timeshift ( talk) 06:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't make any sense to have Western Australia having a different convention from the entire rest of the project just because one editor there has a preference for the latter. If you want it changed, then get a consensus to change it. Rebecca ( talk) 07:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
The modern majr general song needs to be re-worded for notability :) Satu Suro 02:56, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind adding your 2c here? Timeshift ( talk) 16:01, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I am a bit hamstrung by ips and others adding birthdays of no article re dlink soccer player names http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indonesia_national_under-19_football_team watcha reckon? (my talk page please dont jumps yet ) Satu Suro 08:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Interested in your thoughts on this. Peter Damian ( talk) 18:34, 22 July 2008 (UTC).
And you know that this annoys the absolute hell out of me, but whatever. I usually can't be bothered fighting procedural issues, but you will not concede a point ever, and I'm fed up with it. Rebecca ( talk) 09:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
You are taking the nat notice board comment to heart? :( Satu Suro 06:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC) Fixing - some need moving to more relevant titles and some are outright misleading by title and content :( Satu Suro 06:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that you deleted the article 2006 Brisbane Cessna 206 crash on July 10, citing an OTRS ticket number and "in particular, is the only similar incident in Category:Aviation_accidents_and_incidents_in_Australia". Could you please specify the specific reason for the OTRS deletion? Your edit ( diff) to the article about two weeks before its deletion, removing the names of the survivors, seems to have targeted a BLP concern, and notability issues were addressed in the deletion discussion, which ended with a "no consensus" outcome. I'd appreciate your clarifications. Thanks, – Black Falcon ( Talk) 03:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
You certainly are an "Orderinchaos"!
Mentioning major junctions the way you wish to display them, looks cluttered and for any one that may want to know the route number, in addition to the name of the road in a conventional format should be kept as it was.
If you believe that not all major intersections be listed in the Infobox, you are welcome to reduce this, but please, please do not leave the major junctions cluttered (as you did it). It makes it confusing to read (and longer), and makes the page more untidy.
I will revert them all back, and hope in good faith you will leave the format as is.
Thanks :)
-- Rom rulz424 ( talk) 05:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
PS. I also have reduced the size of the route allocations, so the Infobox is not so big.
Can you restore this version and delete the later edits in this page. Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 07:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I saw your post at Lightmouse's page. MOSNUM no longer encourages date autoformatting, having evolved over the past year or so from the mandatory to the optional after much discussion there and elsewhere of the disadvantages of the system. Related to this, MOSNUM prescribes rules for raw date-formatting, irrespective of whether or not a date is autoformatted. MOSLINK and CONTEXT are consistent with this. There are at least six disadvantages in using date-autoformatting, which I've capped here:
Removal has generally been met with positive responses by editors. I'm interested to receive your feedback. Tony (talk) 01:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank You! Exactly, I don't see why we have to have a "limit" or have to wait for a week to nominate articles, the project barely even pays attention to them.-- S R X 12:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your input and suggestions. I am going to concentrate on teaching how to encode and reference properly before I get carried away on the Kambalda page (baby steps!) I was just wondering, as a teacher, is there a good way of avoiding blatant plagarism (in the context of a high school)? I just know they're all going to try to just cut and paste stuff from other sites...
I don't mean to invade your privacy, but I am very curious as to who you are and how you became a Wiki administrator. I am a second year teacher myself, but to be honest there aren't many other teachers around here who do this sort of thing. Perhaps you should be running PD's??? I would come!
-I have just read your userpage and I have to say I am surprised at how much we have in common! Once again, keep up your great work, you seem like a very valuable person to know!
Dan C
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kambaldawdhs ( talk • contribs) 13:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Satu Suro 14:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Care to clarify why you think the block is unfortunate . The 3RR page clearly states that exceptions are made for vandalism but not otherwise. Are you accusing me of being a vandal? Perhaps you can explain why no one else was reverting despite a number of people watching the page. For example Gnangarra did not remove the item from the article despite disagreeing with it - he obviously did not think it a BLP violation which was Skyring's justification. Skyring was given the opportunity to avoid the block by self-reverting as the blocking admin thought it not a BLP violation per the article talk page discussion and his own assessment. Skyring declined the opportunity and went on to revert a 5th time. -- Matilda talk 17:10, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Here's some socks for you! Socks (when they're the clothing variety, rather than the disruptive type) somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully these have made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Acalamari 02:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
That is almost the most disgusting pun I have ever seen on a wikipedia talk page - I hope the sender gets wet socks - and all wikilove persons should be covered in wet socks - with mud as well if possible :) Satu Suro 02:53, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
There's a link to force the bot to run, which I presume you've been doing. I've lost the url. Can you advise? Moondyne 02:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Like I told Surturz: He can't make a bad edit and then claim I have assumed bad faith. Bad faith is evident, and I called him out on it. He should be talking it out on the talk page.
How is "Reverting this rubbish" not POV?
13:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Orderinchaos. You recently said in another post: "Wikipedia's consensus procedure holds that in order to add something contentious to a contested page, one has to obtain consensus on the talk page first". Does it really say that? Just curious. I'd be interested to know if that is the case. Regards, --
Lester
01:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
(Cross-posted)