Archive : March 2008
Well done, I saw you in action as I had the articles pre-watchlisted. FWIW, I'm just about to add a fragment to Moorabbin -- Melburnian ( talk) 08:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Avinesh Jose T 10:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
You'd think Pyne would be a bit more politically smarter than to describe his party publicly as hard right... Timeshift ( talk) 04:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Just a note to see what you think is the best approach with the neighbouring shires in infoboxes for the former LGAs along the NSW border. With Shire of Tallangatta and Shire of Upper Murray we currently have Greater Hume Shire Council shown as a neighbouring Council. Greater Hume was not created until 2004, 10 years after the the two Victorian shires were abolished. The problem is I am unsure if the neighboring council in 1994 was Hume Shire Council or Holbrook Shire Council (now both, along with Culcairn Shire Council part of Greater Hume). Your thoughts? -- Mattinbgn\ talk 05:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for that barnstar - to someone with possibly the most appropriate name in the Wiki universe...! Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 21:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
According to Maxim's entry in the block log, the actual block was completely unrelated to the topic ban from AN/B. As Ryan said on AN/B, MickMacNee has blocks and warnings on his page for disruption in other areas - including an edit war warning directly above the unblock request. Avruch T 01:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at a contribution I take issue with that has WP:WEIGHT, WP:NPOV, and weasel word issues? The new user is insisting on keeping it. Timeshift ( talk) 01:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification of the TfD, much appreciated. Also, whilst im here could you revert this image back to the school logo. Thanks. Twenty Years 07:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that the Division of Newcastle is the only federation division to be continuously held by a single party. Obviously this isn't possible with the Liberal Party of Australia as they weren't around then. However, are you aware of any divisions around since federation that were FT (or Prot), then CLP, then Nat, then UAP, then Lib exclusively? Timeshift ( talk) 05:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol, i'm now older than Andrew Jones, controversial LCL/Liberal MP for the Division of Adelaide at the age of just 22 and a half! Timeshift ( talk) 06:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
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I was thinking about starting again - i thought of making station signs like they do on the sydney and brisbane ststions... is that a good idea? Or Not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlong2008 ( talk • contribs) 02:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm stuck, and I think you have explained this to me before. Can you dab this for me: [May] Holman was elected to the Western Australian Legislative Assembly seat of Forrest? in 1925 ... Ta, 03:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Only trees - I am intrigued by the number of Tasmanian career politicans who serve at both state and federal level at diff stages in their careers - in your wild and wide experience of the career pollies of this bronzed wild land - are there any lists or cats that deal with this marvellous species? are other states very diff on this or is it my tassie focus that somehow highlights them? curious to know your op on this one Satu Suro 07:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
That's what I meant. I would have thought there would be some profiles in the press or discussion of her activities, controversies, etc...from her picture, it doesn't look like she holds much back. Flowanda | Talk 16:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | ||
For your hard work on the changes to Local Government articles due to the March 15, 2008 amalgamations, I hereby award you this barnstar. Fosnez ( talk) 03:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC) |
I am currently making a transperth trainline map like the one on their trains - it will have some extra information on it unlike their one!-- Jlong2008 ( talk) 09:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Mate i was gutted when i heard that Thuringowa "as a city" will be no more, i was born in Thuringowa, as was my father and his mother, and her mother, alone with all my kids and sister, we all go way back, but i understand what your saying...thanks Thuringowacityrep ( talk) 11:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel ( talk) 15:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
That's beautiful, on a technical level, is there some way to automatically have the table break down?
I'm not sure if that's possible or not, but if it was, putting the entire table on its own page "WP:AE/listOfArticles" would be fantastic. Sherurcij ( Speaker for the Dead) 20:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
A requestHi there... I was really pleased to interact with you, on BKWSU page, especially you attempt at tone of one section, but as my wikipedia experience grew, i had to face some bitter experience as well, I was really surprised to see certain things, for example, when i initiated one COI notice against user:jossi who has admitted to be a paid member of one cult group, two different people came running after me, one is User:Reneeholle and other one is sethi (see my talk page). If you notice User:Reneeholle placed few warnings at my talk page for making personal attack [3], [4], [5] and if you notice the time there was no edit from my side during that time frame [6], then there was a notice about me, which lead to my block for one week, I was surprised to see that admin who blocked me failed to notice this deliberate attempt, from preventing me from editing wikipedia, not only did that user placed a notice at Administrators noticeboard, but also filed a notice at IU which was rejected [7]. I am really surprised to see this commitment from these two users, who wish to block me from editing wikipedia at any cost, one of them claims that i am metapuppet of User:4d-don see this [8] and other one is convinced that my name is shashwat pandey [9]. These things have somewhat convinced me, that they are paid members from respective cults and wish to manipulate information. I have noticed these four people working in close nexus jossi, renee, sethi and IPSOS, at many locations, recent attack on me, was probably triggered when i tried to restart a page which jossi deleted, and this deletion was not justified [10] I have collected sufficient information about that group, and will be starting a page about the same soon, but just needed to know what preventive measures i can take from these four people, can they be blocked from editing my talk page ? so that discussion remains at respective article pages ? Please note there is not a single comment from my side on their talk pages ! Kindly respond at my talk page.-- talk-to-me! ( talk) 21:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I was just wondering what the purpose was of this edit. It didn't look like vandalism to me. Fusion Mix 17:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Um, I just thought that people that were a part of the homeschooling WikiProject would be interested in knowing what another user thought of our project. I did not know that I was violating a WP policy, and I will look into the subject. But I do have a question: What exactly is cross-posting anyway? K im u 18:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I saw this edit to my talk page, and would like to know exactly what you are doing. This is clearly not vandalism, it was simply providing facts to me, to use at my discretion. Not only is this not your talk page, you have absolutely no right to delete my messages. It's my talk page, and I will do with it what I please. I have no idea what you have against my friend, but going and deleting messages that he sends people is unethical and rude. Please refrain, or I will alert an admin. elisa talk. 19:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
This is in response to your post on my user page concerning my protest against defamation of my name and character by user IsabellaW on the ARB page about the Prem Rawat articles. For your information, the issue isn't one of my being outed or having private or personal material about myself and other named individuals on Wikipedia exposed here. It's a matter of people using Wikipedia for the purpose of libelling and discrediting myself and other editors by labelling us as a hate-group. I've used my real name here on many occasions, as have other former followers of Prem Rawat, who in fact have as their usernames, their real names. Outing is not the point or the issue. But, I noticed that IsabellaW has escalated and added more retaliatory "stuff" to her section, so I don't know what the solution to this situation might be today. There really is nothing in IsabellaW's posts that would, could, or should be considered as evidence that deserves a response, and I think it's inappropriate for me to respond to her because her diatribe has nothing to do with the Prem Rawat articles. I definitely am not into engaging in a "tit-for-tat," roll in the mud with IsabellaW, because she seems to be quite volitile right now and on a full-blown smear campaign. At this point I'll confine my participation on the ARB to the discussion page and for now will take a wait and see attitude concerning this. Thanks for your response and concern. Cynthia Gracie Sylviecyn ( talk) 12:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC) thanks for the heads up. cheers Michellecrisp ( talk) 05:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
CheckUser came back as unrelated, and since you and a few other users are willing to vouch for him, consider the issue a moot point now. Nwwaew ( Talk Page) ( Contribs) ( E-mail me) 17:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Sorry, I'd no idea. I just removed every occurrence of "different to" from every article I could find it in. I guess they'll revert to normal Australian form in due course, so if I spot those reverts I'll pop them into my exclusion list so they don't get accidentally picked up again. -- Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 22:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC) According to your comments, you said that I was mistaken with TY being a member of WP homeschooling. I was not, and he did recently quit the project. If you don't believe me then you can check the history of the Project page. K im u 04:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC) |
Archive : March 2008
Well done, I saw you in action as I had the articles pre-watchlisted. FWIW, I'm just about to add a fragment to Moorabbin -- Melburnian ( talk) 08:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Avinesh Jose T 10:26, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
You'd think Pyne would be a bit more politically smarter than to describe his party publicly as hard right... Timeshift ( talk) 04:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Just a note to see what you think is the best approach with the neighbouring shires in infoboxes for the former LGAs along the NSW border. With Shire of Tallangatta and Shire of Upper Murray we currently have Greater Hume Shire Council shown as a neighbouring Council. Greater Hume was not created until 2004, 10 years after the the two Victorian shires were abolished. The problem is I am unsure if the neighboring council in 1994 was Hume Shire Council or Holbrook Shire Council (now both, along with Culcairn Shire Council part of Greater Hume). Your thoughts? -- Mattinbgn\ talk 05:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Many thanks for that barnstar - to someone with possibly the most appropriate name in the Wiki universe...! Cheers, Ian Rose ( talk) 21:27, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
According to Maxim's entry in the block log, the actual block was completely unrelated to the topic ban from AN/B. As Ryan said on AN/B, MickMacNee has blocks and warnings on his page for disruption in other areas - including an edit war warning directly above the unblock request. Avruch T 01:07, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Would you mind taking a look at a contribution I take issue with that has WP:WEIGHT, WP:NPOV, and weasel word issues? The new user is insisting on keeping it. Timeshift ( talk) 01:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification of the TfD, much appreciated. Also, whilst im here could you revert this image back to the school logo. Thanks. Twenty Years 07:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Hey, I noticed that the Division of Newcastle is the only federation division to be continuously held by a single party. Obviously this isn't possible with the Liberal Party of Australia as they weren't around then. However, are you aware of any divisions around since federation that were FT (or Prot), then CLP, then Nat, then UAP, then Lib exclusively? Timeshift ( talk) 05:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Lol, i'm now older than Andrew Jones, controversial LCL/Liberal MP for the Division of Adelaide at the age of just 22 and a half! Timeshift ( talk) 06:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Dear OIC, thank you for taking part in
my RfB. As you may know, it was
not passed by bureaucrats. |
This Arbitration case is closed and the final decision has been published at the link above. PHG ( talk · contribs) is prohibited from editing articles relating to medieval or ancient history for a period of one year. He is permitted to make suggestions on talk pages, provided that he interacts with other editors in a civil fashion. PHG is reminded that in contributing to Wikipedia (including his talkpage contributions, contributions in other subject-matter areas, and contributions after the one-year editing restriction has expired), it is important that all sourced edits must fairly and accurately reflect the content of the cited work taken as a whole. PHG is also reminded that Wikipedia is a collaborative project and it is essential that all editors work towards compromise and a neutral point of view in a good-faith fashion. When one editor finds themselves at odds with most other editors on a topic, it can be disruptive to continue repeating the same argument. After suggestions have been properly considered and debated, and possible options considered, if a consensus is clear, the collegial and cooperative thing to do is to acknowledge the consensus, and move on to other debates.
PHG is encouraged to continue contributing to Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects in other ways, including by suggesting topics for articles, making well-sourced suggestions on talkpages, and continuing to contribute free-content images to Wikimedia Commons.
For the Arbitration committee, Thatcher 01:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your input on this merger. I have also responded to comments made by Sherurcij which included misleading information.
DiligentTerrier
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18:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking about starting again - i thought of making station signs like they do on the sydney and brisbane ststions... is that a good idea? Or Not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlong2008 ( talk • contribs) 02:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm stuck, and I think you have explained this to me before. Can you dab this for me: [May] Holman was elected to the Western Australian Legislative Assembly seat of Forrest? in 1925 ... Ta, 03:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Only trees - I am intrigued by the number of Tasmanian career politicans who serve at both state and federal level at diff stages in their careers - in your wild and wide experience of the career pollies of this bronzed wild land - are there any lists or cats that deal with this marvellous species? are other states very diff on this or is it my tassie focus that somehow highlights them? curious to know your op on this one Satu Suro 07:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
That's what I meant. I would have thought there would be some profiles in the press or discussion of her activities, controversies, etc...from her picture, it doesn't look like she holds much back. Flowanda | Talk 16:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
The Original Barnstar | ||
For your hard work on the changes to Local Government articles due to the March 15, 2008 amalgamations, I hereby award you this barnstar. Fosnez ( talk) 03:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC) |
I am currently making a transperth trainline map like the one on their trains - it will have some extra information on it unlike their one!-- Jlong2008 ( talk) 09:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Mate i was gutted when i heard that Thuringowa "as a city" will be no more, i was born in Thuringowa, as was my father and his mother, and her mother, alone with all my kids and sister, we all go way back, but i understand what your saying...thanks Thuringowacityrep ( talk) 11:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Betacommand 2/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel ( talk) 15:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
That's beautiful, on a technical level, is there some way to automatically have the table break down?
I'm not sure if that's possible or not, but if it was, putting the entire table on its own page "WP:AE/listOfArticles" would be fantastic. Sherurcij ( Speaker for the Dead) 20:54, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
A requestHi there... I was really pleased to interact with you, on BKWSU page, especially you attempt at tone of one section, but as my wikipedia experience grew, i had to face some bitter experience as well, I was really surprised to see certain things, for example, when i initiated one COI notice against user:jossi who has admitted to be a paid member of one cult group, two different people came running after me, one is User:Reneeholle and other one is sethi (see my talk page). If you notice User:Reneeholle placed few warnings at my talk page for making personal attack [3], [4], [5] and if you notice the time there was no edit from my side during that time frame [6], then there was a notice about me, which lead to my block for one week, I was surprised to see that admin who blocked me failed to notice this deliberate attempt, from preventing me from editing wikipedia, not only did that user placed a notice at Administrators noticeboard, but also filed a notice at IU which was rejected [7]. I am really surprised to see this commitment from these two users, who wish to block me from editing wikipedia at any cost, one of them claims that i am metapuppet of User:4d-don see this [8] and other one is convinced that my name is shashwat pandey [9]. These things have somewhat convinced me, that they are paid members from respective cults and wish to manipulate information. I have noticed these four people working in close nexus jossi, renee, sethi and IPSOS, at many locations, recent attack on me, was probably triggered when i tried to restart a page which jossi deleted, and this deletion was not justified [10] I have collected sufficient information about that group, and will be starting a page about the same soon, but just needed to know what preventive measures i can take from these four people, can they be blocked from editing my talk page ? so that discussion remains at respective article pages ? Please note there is not a single comment from my side on their talk pages ! Kindly respond at my talk page.-- talk-to-me! ( talk) 21:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. I have reviewed the contributions in question and concluded the same as Sarah - speculation on real world information about Wikipedians is considered to be harassment and in particular is a violation of WP:OUTING. There have been several well known cases where contributors have been indefinitely blocked in the past for such behaviour, and I would encourage you to not continue to do so. Even so, it's not particularly useful to speculate, as it is essentially an ad hominem attack - as the old saying goes, play the ball, not the man. Orderinchaos 06:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
— ComputerGuy89010 0 Talk to me What I've done to help Wikipedia 02:03, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
-- Nadir D Steinmetz 11:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Thanks for bringing up WP:BLP for dermatologist part of Wrong Planet. I'm currently finding more sources. Perl ( talk) 15:36, 22 March 2008 (UTC) In order to speedy delete something from CSD R2, it has to link from the mainspace, Wikipedia project space is OK. - Diligent Terrier and friends 17:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I was just wondering what the purpose was of this edit. It didn't look like vandalism to me. Fusion Mix 17:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Um, I just thought that people that were a part of the homeschooling WikiProject would be interested in knowing what another user thought of our project. I did not know that I was violating a WP policy, and I will look into the subject. But I do have a question: What exactly is cross-posting anyway? K im u 18:28, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
I saw this edit to my talk page, and would like to know exactly what you are doing. This is clearly not vandalism, it was simply providing facts to me, to use at my discretion. Not only is this not your talk page, you have absolutely no right to delete my messages. It's my talk page, and I will do with it what I please. I have no idea what you have against my friend, but going and deleting messages that he sends people is unethical and rude. Please refrain, or I will alert an admin. elisa talk. 19:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
This is in response to your post on my user page concerning my protest against defamation of my name and character by user IsabellaW on the ARB page about the Prem Rawat articles. For your information, the issue isn't one of my being outed or having private or personal material about myself and other named individuals on Wikipedia exposed here. It's a matter of people using Wikipedia for the purpose of libelling and discrediting myself and other editors by labelling us as a hate-group. I've used my real name here on many occasions, as have other former followers of Prem Rawat, who in fact have as their usernames, their real names. Outing is not the point or the issue. But, I noticed that IsabellaW has escalated and added more retaliatory "stuff" to her section, so I don't know what the solution to this situation might be today. There really is nothing in IsabellaW's posts that would, could, or should be considered as evidence that deserves a response, and I think it's inappropriate for me to respond to her because her diatribe has nothing to do with the Prem Rawat articles. I definitely am not into engaging in a "tit-for-tat," roll in the mud with IsabellaW, because she seems to be quite volitile right now and on a full-blown smear campaign. At this point I'll confine my participation on the ARB to the discussion page and for now will take a wait and see attitude concerning this. Thanks for your response and concern. Cynthia Gracie Sylviecyn ( talk) 12:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC) thanks for the heads up. cheers Michellecrisp ( talk) 05:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
CheckUser came back as unrelated, and since you and a few other users are willing to vouch for him, consider the issue a moot point now. Nwwaew ( Talk Page) ( Contribs) ( E-mail me) 17:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC) Sorry, I'd no idea. I just removed every occurrence of "different to" from every article I could find it in. I guess they'll revert to normal Australian form in due course, so if I spot those reverts I'll pop them into my exclusion list so they don't get accidentally picked up again. -- Anticipation of a New Lover's Arrival, The 22:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC) According to your comments, you said that I was mistaken with TY being a member of WP homeschooling. I was not, and he did recently quit the project. If you don't believe me then you can check the history of the Project page. K im u 04:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC) |