Congratulations, you're and admin! Please read the advice. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 17:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
...but here comes yours. Congratulations! Bishonen | talk 21:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations on being made an admin! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into User:Tristessa de St Ange/Archive 2/monobook.js:
// [[User:Lupin/popups.js]] - please include this line document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>'); popupShortcutKeys=true; // optional: enable keyboard shortcuts popupAdminLinks=true; // optional: enable admin links
There are more options which you can fiddle with listed at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin| talk| popups 01:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, Adminship is no big deal, but feeling trusted by the community is. Nick, you're very welcome to have had my Support - I meant everything I said, and would have said more had I not figured it might embarrass you or irritate the skeptics. I don't need to be persuaded of your trustworthiness, cluefulness or general ability to apply your "powers" with discretion and fairness. I also appreciate the warm thank-you note. Rob Church Talk 01:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
If you need admin help, like how to close an AfD, you know where to find me. There's always IRC too. Cheers! R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Alkivar: Even though you did not support my candidacy, I would like to thank you for taking the time to vote on my RfA. In some respects, Oppose votes are as useful to me as Support votes, since they serve to highlight areas in which I can improve myself and become a better administrator. Since my RfA was successful, I would be exceptionally grateful if you might tell me how you would like to see me improve, and what areas you think I should work on to ensure that I am successful as an administrator - I am always looking for feedback. I am most grateful for your assistance, and I look forward to working with you in the future. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 05:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Rob: As promised, I have nominated you for adminship; far overdue, my dear fellow, and I think that the community would be quite mad to turn you down. Would you be so good as to go to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Robchurch 2 and do your bit so that I can list it on RfA (new rules, you see). Thanks! -- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 00:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I noticed you are doing right now some active deletioning right now and those Blank Libary Catagories has been wating for more than a day to get speedy deleted Could u finish them off please Ty -- JAranda | yeah 04:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations on your RfA. My vote was nothing personal, just a general idea I have of how I feel RfA should be. You certainly had the support of some of the best Wikipedians around and I'm sure you'll do a great job. The Mediation Cabal alone indicates your worth to this place. My only advice about adminship would be; ease your way into it and don't let it stop you editing articles. All the best. Filiocht | The kettle's on 07:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Leave me alone, alright? You don't need to be my mentor, or give me any tips, or tell me how to be civil. Just leave me alone. You interrupted me nominating Wikiacc for admin. -- WikiFanatic Talk Contribs 18:11, 10 October 2005 (CDT)
Congratulations. -- JuntungWu 07:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions - I will certainly take them on board. Brisvegas 09:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Rbj: I just thought I should drop a short note re. the work you have done in referencing the comparative numbers of paper citations on Bogdanov Affair. It is an important point to raise, and thank you for your contributions in this area; however, for the sake of encyclopaedic style, brevity, and readibility, I have condensed your paragraph on SPIRES data down considerably. I do hope that you agree that my condensed version is more readable.
In addition, regarding some of the text that was added in that same paragraph, and the edit summaries that you made, I thought I should direct you to the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy for further information on how matters should be presented on Wikipedia. No matter what our opinions are of the merits (or lack of) pertaining to the work of the Bogdanov brothers, we must nonetheless present all views fairly and equally in the article.
I would like to thank you for your continued cooperation, and your hard work on the article.
Best regards,
-- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 23:02, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Allow me to thank you for nominating me for adminship, which I have now received. I appreciate your supporting me, and your confidence in my attitude to the project. And if you'll excuse me, I have tons more "thank you" messages to write. Once again, thanks; all the best, Rob Church Talk | FAHD 16:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
All user accounts used by participants in the external controversy (involving the Bogdanov Affari) are banned from Wikipedia pending resolution of this matter. The criteria for determining external involvement shall be a review of their edit history, it being presumed that if the vast majority of their edits were to the Bogdanov Affair and related pages such as this arbitration that they are not Wikipedia editors but persons involved in the external dispute. This group includes: YBM ( talk · contribs), XAL ( talk · contribs), ProfesseurYIN ( talk · contribs), Igor B. ( talk · contribs), CatherineV ( talk · contribs), 82.123.187.53 ( talk · contribs). Laurence67 ( talk · contribs), EE Guy ( talk · contribs), 82.123.46.149 ( talk · contribs), 82.123.57.232 ( talk · contribs), Luis A. ( talk · contribs) and all others who meet the criteria. Rbj ( talk · contribs), a regular Wikipedia editor, and Ze miguel ( talk · contribs), a new editor who has edited other areas, are banned from editing Bogdanov Affair, pending resolution of this matter.
A less restrictive injunction Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Regarding_The_Bogdanov_Affair/Proposed_decision#Ban_on_editing_Bogdanov_Affair is under consideration and may replace the total bans. Fred Bauder 19:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
If you would do these blocks I would appreciate it. Fred Bauder 19:16, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Nicholas, it's a pity to see all the ARC breaks the case is causing. I'd suggest to bring some ethics in on a tone 40 scale to deal with the SPs :D . Ze miguel 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Just to clear things up here: Rob Church is (or was) a friend of mine. His claim that I am impersonating him is baseless, as I have already informed him, since I created my account nearly three months before he created his. Certainly I have never vandalised pages or committed any other type of offence, so I see no reason whatsoever for him to block me. We have a history of making snide remarks to one another; however, I will try to keep them to a minimum in future. -- Gurch 16:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Nicholas, editors are requesting Bogdanov Affair to protected again. I could protect the page myself, but ss you were the last admin that protected and then unprotected the article, I would appreciate your involvement and to decide if a new protection is warranted. Thanks. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ t • @ 22:05, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
[1] was not mere "minor copyediting". the fact that both B brothers barely got Ph.Ds with a lot of pressuing and cajoling (this need not be included because it is some professors subjective opinion) and finally with the lowest possible passing endorsement (this is very uncommon for a PhD. it's letting someone pass with a "D" and this is not subjective) tells the reader something salient about the Bogdanovs as the genius physicists they claim to be. if it's good enough for the New York Times, it's good enough for WP.
changing the CQG "apology" quote [2] to soften the gravity of the problem that they, themselves, recognized is literally a POV edit that the Bogdanovs would do themselve. it is untrue to claim that edit as NPOV editing (even though i do not claim that you have a specific axe to grind here, the edit, nonetheless is POV).
[3] is definitely POV editing. this is relevant, salient, and factual information. a Nobel Laureate publically places his reputation taking a stand that these guys are imposters. that their "physics" is non0existent in the discipline.
i cannot presume to know your thoughts, but why are you coddling the Bogdanovs? especially now that it should be painfully obvious to everyone who these brothers are and what they are. these are definitely POV editing that the Bogdanovs do not deserve and the French (who read English) public, particularly, have a right to know.
the article was cleaned up and fine the way it was, with a lot more "soft" content for the B brothers. a lot more than they deserve.
there are other pro-Bogdanov edits you have just done. but this is the most egregious.
respectfully, can you reconsider some of what you have done? r b-j 00:29, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Dr. Sternheimer described the twins as stubborn "wunderkids" with very high I.Q.'s, who have a hard time understanding that they are not "the Einstein brothers" and prone to shooting themselves in the foot with vague statements and an "impressionistic" style. He called teaching them "like teaching My Fair Lady to speak with an Oxford accent."
Certainly they did not come off as the Einstein brothers in their dissertations. In June 1999, Grichka was granted a Ph.D. in mathematics by the École Polytechnique in Paris but with an "honorable," the lowest passing grade.
Igor, however, failed. The examining committee agreed that he could try again if he had three papers published in peer-reviewed journals, a common litmus test of legitimacy, Dr. Jackiw said.
"One has to have trust in the community," he explained. Igor's thesis had many things Dr. Jackiw didn't understand, but he found it intriguing. "All these were ideas that could possibly make sense," he said. "It showed some originality and some familiarity with the jargon. That's all I ask."
Igor got his degree in theoretical physics from the University of Bourgogne in July, also with the lowest possible grade, one that is seldom given, Dr. Sternheimer said.
"These guys worked for 10 years without pay," he said. "They have the right to have their work recognized with a diploma, which is nothing much these days."
Salve, NicholasTurnbull! Thanks for your kind note about your RFA candidacy. My vote quite possibly was intemperate and I see your spirited note shows you are not holding grudges. Please note the vote had no personal animus in it. Welcome to the project and do let me know if I can help with your articles. Ave atque vale! PedanticallySpeaking 13:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
As requested, I ran a sanity check on your edits to Bogdanov Affair. I reviewed a good number of edits back and, I can quite firmly assure you, not one of them appears to be pushing any sort of point of view. Your fears that you're losing your marbles are quite groundless, my dear fellow. All the best, Rob Church Talk | FAHD 02:35, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Nicholas,
if you are still considering to modify the Bogdanov Affair article (in addition to the usual revert thing since the article is unprotected now), maybe the following suggestions could be useful. I do not want to start a new revert war about the article, so I leave these comments at your appreciation. Feel free to do whatever you want with these.
Regards, Alain Riazuelo 13:01, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Nicholas;
Thanks for your attention. I presented my recent case on the talkpage on the article in question. I will post it here, for you, and you tell me if it's up to standard. Thanks.
My source on Grigore Ureche is being refused
Two users disallow me from using the source I have on Grigore Ureche by reverting the article. These users are user:Christopher Sundita and user:Node ue. I have tried to solve the conflict via ANI, RfA, RfM, and most recently, TINMC. A moderator directed me to this talkpage, where I'm supposed to first try and solve the dispute.
Here is the fragment that is being refused by the two users:
"The Moldavian chronicler, Grigore Ureche ( 1590 - 1647), established in his "Letopiseţul Ţării Moldovei" (The Chronicles of the land of Moldavia) that Moldavian (Moldovan) and Wallachian (Romanian from Wallachia) are essentially the same language; and that Moldavians and Wallachians share the same ethnicity."
The reasons for this refusion have been changed over time. I will bring them in chronological order, by the name of their author. I will, later, post the sources from where these reasons have been posted.
My comments: I never used that word in my fragment, and to this day, his complaint remains a mystery.
My comments: Sundita justified the reverting by saying that:
1. the source is too old; and
2. it's a POV statement
A source is allowed to be old. History, one could argue, is old - but that's a matter of perspective. Sundita further claimed that this was Ureche's point of view. Well, as a matter of fact, it was also the view of the Prince of Moldavia at the time; it was also the view of Dimitrie Cantemir; and it was also the view of those Moldavians, including Ioan Cuza, who united Moldavia with Wallachia to create Romania. And it was the point of view of most Moldavians, I would dare to say, until 1994 onward. And, to my great shock, even CIA Factbook shares that POV. See here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/md.html#People
But enough of POVs. Let it be known that Ureche was a scholar who identified foreign sources that also, to our greatest scandal on this Wiki, shared that POV; mostly, Polish and Hungarian sources.
My comments: Node's mystery intensifies and we might have to archive his comments on a seperate page. We should name it: The X Files.
My comments: Who is creating that subpage?
My comments: Sundita repeats the age of the source and concludes that in this amount of time, languages can change. This is irrelevant. Let languages change whenever they want - I should still have the right to post a source. And if Sundita wants a more recent source, he can check CIA Factbook. Or, he can consult Encyclopedia Britannica:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-42814?query=moldovan&ct=eb
During the Soviet period the Moldavian language (as it was then called) was written in the Cyrillic alphabet. Soviet scholars, mainly for political reasons, insisted that this language was an independent Romance language that was distinct from Romanian. In fact the differences between the two languages are of little significance and are confined to phonetics and vocabulary. In 1989 the script of the Moldovan language was changed to Roman; thereupon began a heated debate over whether the language should be called Romanian or Moldovan.
Or, Sundita could consult BBC!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/3038982.stm
Two-thirds of Moldovans are of Romanian descent, the languages are virtually identical and the two countries share a common cultural heritage.
Can we use those fresh and credible sources in the article, Sundita?
My comments: Sundita now says that the source is not reliable. May I ask why? I think the source is very reliable. As I said: the scholar researched the history of Moldova and its language, and of course, he noticed that Moldovan and Wallachian was essentially the same language, and so he drew that conclusion - the same conclusion that the rest agreed upon and the same conclusion that CIA, BBC, Britannica, and god knows how many other sources, agree upon. Wikipedia is the only exception.
Those reasons have been given by the two friends on the edit history of this page. It can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Moldovan_language&curid=226999&action=history
But the fun doesn't end here. At RfM, where I presented my case, Sundita came up with the same reasons, [ but just a bit different in their approach]:
My comments: Sundita is now no longer disputing Ureche's opinion. It's just that languages can change a lot under 400 years. I have already responded to this opinion, but Sundita then says that he's interested in knowing what linguists around the world have to say about this. Fine! Let's ask them!
Let's ask the INSTITUTE OF LINGUISTICS of Moldova. This is what they call their language:
"In the field of dialectology and linguistic geography, the cartography of the materials was continued, aimed at compiling a linguistic atlas showing the territorial distribution of lexical units peculiar to the Romanian spoken between the Pruth and the Dniester, the same as in more remote zones."
http://www.asm.md/institute/lingvist/index_en.htm
My comments: Republic of Moldova lies between the Prut and the Dniester, and as you can clearly read from the text, they call their language for Romanian. You may read the full article.
More examples: http://www.asm.md/institute/litfolc/index_en.htm
Some scholars even wrote books about this dispute; one of them is American scholar Donald Leroy Dyer who wrote "The Romanian Dialect of Moldova: A Study in Language and Politics". His CV: http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/modern_languages/Dyer.html
You can buy his book on Amazon.
If Ureche is not good enough, then perhaps the popular opinion of linguistics is good enough? But why should I have their permission to use a source? I want to hear their argument. You can await further excuses made by the two fellows, but know that neither of them speak either Romanian, or this Moldovan language that was given birth in 1994 - because before that year, the language was called Romanian.
Thank you!
-- Anittas 04:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I was out of line for posting on Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal since I am not a member of that group. I did so because this user was finding all avenues of dispute resolution unresponsive. This was a hostile experience for this user who was attempting to resolve a dispute. That was my motivation for doing so. I will not take this action in the future since my attempts at resolving this dispute are apparently not welcome at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal (both you and Kelly Martin have voiced that). As for the dispute resolution process itself, I encourage you to review my comments to User:Anittas. On many occasions I recommended that the user take their dispute to the talk page of the article in question as a first step in the dispute resolution process. Not the only step, but the first step. For backing in procedure regarding this, I refer you to Wikipedia:Resolving disputes, where it says "The first resort in resolving almost any conflict is to discuss the issue on a talk page.". This had not been done. I was not out of line in any respect for suggesting the user take this as a first step; in fact it is entirely appropriate. Such debates on talk pages can help to clarify the points at hand with people who are knowledgeable on the subject rather than people on mediation groups that have no personal knowledge of the subject. If the dispute can be resolved on the talk page of the article, it helps to reduce burden on the already over burdened dispute resolution processes. I stand by my actions in this regard and do not find fault with my suggestions in any respect. I was polite, encouraging, non-dismissive, and focused on getting the user to take that avenue of action. I also stand by my actions in noting that the user was potentially in violation of WP:3RR. As an admin, part of my responsibility is watching out for such revert wars and stopping them as appropriate. I am not heavy handed in such actions; I work first to get the users to willingly drop the revert war so that it doesn't crop up again right after blocks expire. My goal is to improve the users, not slap them with policy. I acted entirely appropriately in bringing this to the attention of the users in question, and would gladly do so again. It is standard behavior for conscientious administrators. I also stand by my comments regarding User:Anittas' incivility. I did not get hostile in response, and specifically said "With regards to "babbling", please observe Wikipedia:Civility. Thank you." Again, I was polite and to the point. I do not see any reason not to attempt to improve a user away from incivility by using such polite requests. It is entirely appropriate and I would do so again. My record here on Wikipedia shows that I am a calm, practiced editor and admin that admits error where appropriate, takes corrective action when needed, and has remained civil in a variety of tense situations. My RfA is testament to the community's support of my behavior. With that in mind, I would like to say very candidly that I have never been so offended here as I have been by your remarks and Kelly Martin's remarks. I have not been officious, my behavior has not been appalling , and I have most definitely been conscientious in my attempts at directing the dispute in appropriate ways. I feel that both you and Kelly Martin have not followed WP:AGF, but rather have assumed that I have tried to countermand the processes in place to handle dispute resolution when the opposite is clearly the case. Worse, you have taken to insulting my behavior as a consequence, rather than asking for clarification first as to what I was doing and why I was doing it (as I have given now). Good day, -- Durin 19:52, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Dudes, there's no reason for you to argue about this. I got no problems with either of you. I'm not upset with you, Durin. I was annoyed, at the time, but that has passed. And me asking why you "babbled" was no big deal. I wasn't sure of what your intentions were. Whatever was said between you guys, just let it be water under the bridge. I don't want any of you to argue because of me; especially since the problem lies somewhere else. All of you seem reasonble. -- Anittas 20:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
(I am including this text here, which is a reply to Kelly's comments on my talk page, so that you may continue to be appraised of the situation)
Hey, Nicholas, do you have any news for me regarding the dispute? Thanks. -- Anittas 16:48, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Nicholas,
You sure are a smoothy; your message makes me really sad. Yeah, I was really passionate about it, and loved interacting with other contributors. Thanks for your wonderful words! But I'm just too distressed and depressed by the huge amount of venom floating around in public about me ever to set foot on WP again.
If I haven't been blocked or the RfA terminated early, I'll make a statement on that page concerning how the procedure desperately needs to be reformed. The irony is that had Redwolf not kindly nominated me last week, I'd still be here, beavering away, helping people, critiqueing, and rewriting parts of project pages. It's all dissolved into sludge, now, and I'll leave really hating WP.
I was a professional musician until that age of 45 (five years ago), in a very traditional frame: I ended up teaching 18th- and 19th-century harmony and keyboard skills, and supervising the improvement of literacy skills in musicians at the University of Sydney. But classical music is shrinking, and my career wasn't in good shape, so I bailed out and have steadily built up a new career in editing - I get to work with some brilliant scientists who need help in the preparation of their grant applications; this is a bonus!
You appear to be an interesting and thoroughly likeable man. My email address is tony1 at iinet dot net dot au, and you're welcome to contact me too if there's anything you want to talk about.
Perhaps I can ask a favour? I'm having difficulty in finding an admin to kill off my user page and image when the time comes, probably next week. Might have someone's agreement, but if not, or if suddenly I'm blocked in the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you waited a few days and then did the deed. (But I'll understand completely if you're uncomfortable about it and say no!)
Sincere thanks, Nicholas.
Tony 00:28, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
It claims under your categories that you're an LGBT Wikipedian. Am I wrong in assuming that this would conflict with your apparent belief in Scientology? Is it just vandalism? Thanks. Sillstaw 22:18, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
First off i thank you for you line of communication in the matter. My reasons for editing is that i never sanctioned that my name be inclued in any part of any medation, nor did i agree to be inclued as a part of any medation process. The inclusion of my name only with out the inclusion of other is only to distort that he their are other in the dipute yet i am only one that has not allowed this user to, or one of a few, that has not allowed this user to get away with his POV war that he has instagated to force a merge of articles, and to distort the truth and misrespresent the facts that have not only been presented to him but to all useres. Unfortanially as is the case with vast majortiy of internal processes here, i find them infeffective, slow, and somethimes corupt, and i have very little faith in the internal workings of this system. I will consult on the infromation present but on in a private matter, but in the end i can only see this working as an appeasment, which will not be acceptable under the current cirmstances. -- Boothy443 | trácht ar 03:35, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi NicholasT: So, I know you're probably sick of this whole deal, but I noticed this on the new user log today:
The next action was to upload a picture of a few clowns over Image:PHOTOS IGOR GRICHKA.jpg, which I reverted a few times, since I was having a cache problem. I'm pretty sure this is either a sock or abusive username, so I blocked the account indefinitely under the ArbCom injunction. Would you like to review this block? You seem to be a chief enforcer of the affair, which we have so unfortunately fallen into. Thanks, Bratsche talk | Esperanza 04:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Just a pre-emptive warning; if things don't improve on Talk:Arvanitic language regarding the page move war, and the strained relations between the two main parties, then I may be calling in the Cabal for backup. Rob Church Talk 11:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I have filed an RfC against Durin for the incident we both had with him last month. You may wish to review and certify the dispute. Kelly Martin ( talk) 13:33, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I am going to unprotect the article for short periods of time, basically as bait, to see how many fish are out there and what they try to do. Fred Bauder 14:16, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
They seem to have stopped removing the source of Ureche, but now started to revert other edits made by other people, instead. I think that Node is causing grief and spreading propaganda. Someone added a fragment of text to compare so-called Moldovan to Romanian, and he removed it. Without asking questions or explaining why he did so, he just removed it. -- Anittas 21:07, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
User:Ted Wilkes has now deleted all edits by administrator FCYTravis to the Gavin Lambert, Nick Adams and James Dean articles. See [6], [7] and [8]. He and User:Wyss continue with accusing me of being a vandal, fabricating texts, etc. I think this behavior is unacceptable. Onefortyone 16:42, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Nicholas, just a reminder that the rollback function should only be used for removing vandalism. [9] Thanks! Carbonite | Talk 12:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Nicholas, sorry for the mess: I figured that the article would be vandalized as soon as it would be unprotected, and I tried to insert my changes quickly, so I didn't check. Thanks for reinserting my changes. Ze miguel 12:31, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I've added a new section: Xenu#Xenu_in_popular_culture. The Marvel villain Xemnu probably deserves a mention as well - David Gerard 14:30, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Apologies for reverting your changes: I really hated doing that, but I strongly feel that we need to keep the numbers somewhere, as I've explained on the talk page. Also, I note your rewording tended to remove the "short descriptions" from the start of the bullet. If we do remove the numbers, I think we should still start each bullet with a short, easily remembered name. Thanks. Turnstep 17:04, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I noticed that you have listed yourself as a scientologist Wikipedian. You will probably be interested to know that Brian0918 has nominated Omnipotence paradox as the front page article for December 25th. You can vote on this matter here. The other suggestion being supported by others for that date is Christmas, although Raul654 has historically been against featuring articles on the same day as their anniversary/holiday. AngryParsley (talk) (contribs) 08:06, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
As a member of the Wikipedia:Mentorship Committee, you along with User:Marudubshinki and User:FCYTravis agreed to act as mentor for Anon 80.141 et al/Onefortyone who is on Wikipedia:probation. This person has returned to editing the same article with the same non-encyclopedic inserts, using distorted phrasing and quoting totally unacceptable sources in order to continue his agenda on the Nick Adams article. Your fellow mentor FCYTravis worked with me to achieve a consensus text pending resolution of the propriety of quoting certain sources. Despite our efforts, and despite being told his edits were improper by mentor FCYTravis, Onefortyone has ignored his mentor and repeatedly inserted them. As well, he continues his past pattern of behaviour of ignoring the facts as to why his edits are unacceptable that have been spelled out in precise detail on the Talk page over and over and over and deliberately obfuscates the issue with massive inserts of text on the Talk page. I and FCYTravis have done everything we can. Now I request that you and mentor Marudubshinki step in and examine this matter to take the appropriate action. - Ted Wilkes 07:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello Nicholas! Please tell me how can I involve myself in mediation? I would like to take part of mediation processes. I find it very interesting to be a mediator. Can I be a member of your team of Cabala mediators? -- Bonaparte talk 13:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
...beat that for a title. Just thought I'd drop you a note to check things are all OK - you haven't been on IRC in a while, and you didn't respond to my email. Hope the whole FSE/contracts/builders/finances issues aren't causing you hell.
Seen the demo site? The amount of progress we (Chris and I) have made will scare the living daylights out of you. Rob Church 23:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations, you're and admin! Please read the advice. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 17:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
...but here comes yours. Congratulations! Bishonen | talk 21:43, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations on being made an admin! I thought you might like to know of a javascript tool that may help in your editing by giving easy access to many admin features. It's described at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. The quick version of the installation procedure for admins is to paste the following into User:Tristessa de St Ange/Archive 2/monobook.js:
// [[User:Lupin/popups.js]] - please include this line document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Lupin/popups.js' + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>'); popupShortcutKeys=true; // optional: enable keyboard shortcuts popupAdminLinks=true; // optional: enable admin links
There are more options which you can fiddle with listed at Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups. Give it a try and let me know if you find any glitches or have suggestions for improvements! Lupin| talk| popups 01:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, Adminship is no big deal, but feeling trusted by the community is. Nick, you're very welcome to have had my Support - I meant everything I said, and would have said more had I not figured it might embarrass you or irritate the skeptics. I don't need to be persuaded of your trustworthiness, cluefulness or general ability to apply your "powers" with discretion and fairness. I also appreciate the warm thank-you note. Rob Church Talk 01:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
If you need admin help, like how to close an AfD, you know where to find me. There's always IRC too. Cheers! R e dwolf24 ( talk) 02:48, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Alkivar: Even though you did not support my candidacy, I would like to thank you for taking the time to vote on my RfA. In some respects, Oppose votes are as useful to me as Support votes, since they serve to highlight areas in which I can improve myself and become a better administrator. Since my RfA was successful, I would be exceptionally grateful if you might tell me how you would like to see me improve, and what areas you think I should work on to ensure that I am successful as an administrator - I am always looking for feedback. I am most grateful for your assistance, and I look forward to working with you in the future. Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 05:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Rob: As promised, I have nominated you for adminship; far overdue, my dear fellow, and I think that the community would be quite mad to turn you down. Would you be so good as to go to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Robchurch 2 and do your bit so that I can list it on RfA (new rules, you see). Thanks! -- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 00:28, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
I noticed you are doing right now some active deletioning right now and those Blank Libary Catagories has been wating for more than a day to get speedy deleted Could u finish them off please Ty -- JAranda | yeah 04:43, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Congratulations on your RfA. My vote was nothing personal, just a general idea I have of how I feel RfA should be. You certainly had the support of some of the best Wikipedians around and I'm sure you'll do a great job. The Mediation Cabal alone indicates your worth to this place. My only advice about adminship would be; ease your way into it and don't let it stop you editing articles. All the best. Filiocht | The kettle's on 07:47, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
Leave me alone, alright? You don't need to be my mentor, or give me any tips, or tell me how to be civil. Just leave me alone. You interrupted me nominating Wikiacc for admin. -- WikiFanatic Talk Contribs 18:11, 10 October 2005 (CDT)
Congratulations. -- JuntungWu 07:12, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions - I will certainly take them on board. Brisvegas 09:08, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Rbj: I just thought I should drop a short note re. the work you have done in referencing the comparative numbers of paper citations on Bogdanov Affair. It is an important point to raise, and thank you for your contributions in this area; however, for the sake of encyclopaedic style, brevity, and readibility, I have condensed your paragraph on SPIRES data down considerably. I do hope that you agree that my condensed version is more readable.
In addition, regarding some of the text that was added in that same paragraph, and the edit summaries that you made, I thought I should direct you to the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy for further information on how matters should be presented on Wikipedia. No matter what our opinions are of the merits (or lack of) pertaining to the work of the Bogdanov brothers, we must nonetheless present all views fairly and equally in the article.
I would like to thank you for your continued cooperation, and your hard work on the article.
Best regards,
-- NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 23:02, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
Allow me to thank you for nominating me for adminship, which I have now received. I appreciate your supporting me, and your confidence in my attitude to the project. And if you'll excuse me, I have tons more "thank you" messages to write. Once again, thanks; all the best, Rob Church Talk | FAHD 16:03, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
All user accounts used by participants in the external controversy (involving the Bogdanov Affari) are banned from Wikipedia pending resolution of this matter. The criteria for determining external involvement shall be a review of their edit history, it being presumed that if the vast majority of their edits were to the Bogdanov Affair and related pages such as this arbitration that they are not Wikipedia editors but persons involved in the external dispute. This group includes: YBM ( talk · contribs), XAL ( talk · contribs), ProfesseurYIN ( talk · contribs), Igor B. ( talk · contribs), CatherineV ( talk · contribs), 82.123.187.53 ( talk · contribs). Laurence67 ( talk · contribs), EE Guy ( talk · contribs), 82.123.46.149 ( talk · contribs), 82.123.57.232 ( talk · contribs), Luis A. ( talk · contribs) and all others who meet the criteria. Rbj ( talk · contribs), a regular Wikipedia editor, and Ze miguel ( talk · contribs), a new editor who has edited other areas, are banned from editing Bogdanov Affair, pending resolution of this matter.
A less restrictive injunction Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Regarding_The_Bogdanov_Affair/Proposed_decision#Ban_on_editing_Bogdanov_Affair is under consideration and may replace the total bans. Fred Bauder 19:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
If you would do these blocks I would appreciate it. Fred Bauder 19:16, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
Hi Nicholas, it's a pity to see all the ARC breaks the case is causing. I'd suggest to bring some ethics in on a tone 40 scale to deal with the SPs :D . Ze miguel 23:40, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
Just to clear things up here: Rob Church is (or was) a friend of mine. His claim that I am impersonating him is baseless, as I have already informed him, since I created my account nearly three months before he created his. Certainly I have never vandalised pages or committed any other type of offence, so I see no reason whatsoever for him to block me. We have a history of making snide remarks to one another; however, I will try to keep them to a minimum in future. -- Gurch 16:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
Nicholas, editors are requesting Bogdanov Affair to protected again. I could protect the page myself, but ss you were the last admin that protected and then unprotected the article, I would appreciate your involvement and to decide if a new protection is warranted. Thanks. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ t • @ 22:05, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
[1] was not mere "minor copyediting". the fact that both B brothers barely got Ph.Ds with a lot of pressuing and cajoling (this need not be included because it is some professors subjective opinion) and finally with the lowest possible passing endorsement (this is very uncommon for a PhD. it's letting someone pass with a "D" and this is not subjective) tells the reader something salient about the Bogdanovs as the genius physicists they claim to be. if it's good enough for the New York Times, it's good enough for WP.
changing the CQG "apology" quote [2] to soften the gravity of the problem that they, themselves, recognized is literally a POV edit that the Bogdanovs would do themselve. it is untrue to claim that edit as NPOV editing (even though i do not claim that you have a specific axe to grind here, the edit, nonetheless is POV).
[3] is definitely POV editing. this is relevant, salient, and factual information. a Nobel Laureate publically places his reputation taking a stand that these guys are imposters. that their "physics" is non0existent in the discipline.
i cannot presume to know your thoughts, but why are you coddling the Bogdanovs? especially now that it should be painfully obvious to everyone who these brothers are and what they are. these are definitely POV editing that the Bogdanovs do not deserve and the French (who read English) public, particularly, have a right to know.
the article was cleaned up and fine the way it was, with a lot more "soft" content for the B brothers. a lot more than they deserve.
there are other pro-Bogdanov edits you have just done. but this is the most egregious.
respectfully, can you reconsider some of what you have done? r b-j 00:29, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Dr. Sternheimer described the twins as stubborn "wunderkids" with very high I.Q.'s, who have a hard time understanding that they are not "the Einstein brothers" and prone to shooting themselves in the foot with vague statements and an "impressionistic" style. He called teaching them "like teaching My Fair Lady to speak with an Oxford accent."
Certainly they did not come off as the Einstein brothers in their dissertations. In June 1999, Grichka was granted a Ph.D. in mathematics by the École Polytechnique in Paris but with an "honorable," the lowest passing grade.
Igor, however, failed. The examining committee agreed that he could try again if he had three papers published in peer-reviewed journals, a common litmus test of legitimacy, Dr. Jackiw said.
"One has to have trust in the community," he explained. Igor's thesis had many things Dr. Jackiw didn't understand, but he found it intriguing. "All these were ideas that could possibly make sense," he said. "It showed some originality and some familiarity with the jargon. That's all I ask."
Igor got his degree in theoretical physics from the University of Bourgogne in July, also with the lowest possible grade, one that is seldom given, Dr. Sternheimer said.
"These guys worked for 10 years without pay," he said. "They have the right to have their work recognized with a diploma, which is nothing much these days."
Salve, NicholasTurnbull! Thanks for your kind note about your RFA candidacy. My vote quite possibly was intemperate and I see your spirited note shows you are not holding grudges. Please note the vote had no personal animus in it. Welcome to the project and do let me know if I can help with your articles. Ave atque vale! PedanticallySpeaking 13:45, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
As requested, I ran a sanity check on your edits to Bogdanov Affair. I reviewed a good number of edits back and, I can quite firmly assure you, not one of them appears to be pushing any sort of point of view. Your fears that you're losing your marbles are quite groundless, my dear fellow. All the best, Rob Church Talk | FAHD 02:35, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
Dear Nicholas,
if you are still considering to modify the Bogdanov Affair article (in addition to the usual revert thing since the article is unprotected now), maybe the following suggestions could be useful. I do not want to start a new revert war about the article, so I leave these comments at your appreciation. Feel free to do whatever you want with these.
Regards, Alain Riazuelo 13:01, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, Nicholas;
Thanks for your attention. I presented my recent case on the talkpage on the article in question. I will post it here, for you, and you tell me if it's up to standard. Thanks.
My source on Grigore Ureche is being refused
Two users disallow me from using the source I have on Grigore Ureche by reverting the article. These users are user:Christopher Sundita and user:Node ue. I have tried to solve the conflict via ANI, RfA, RfM, and most recently, TINMC. A moderator directed me to this talkpage, where I'm supposed to first try and solve the dispute.
Here is the fragment that is being refused by the two users:
"The Moldavian chronicler, Grigore Ureche ( 1590 - 1647), established in his "Letopiseţul Ţării Moldovei" (The Chronicles of the land of Moldavia) that Moldavian (Moldovan) and Wallachian (Romanian from Wallachia) are essentially the same language; and that Moldavians and Wallachians share the same ethnicity."
The reasons for this refusion have been changed over time. I will bring them in chronological order, by the name of their author. I will, later, post the sources from where these reasons have been posted.
My comments: I never used that word in my fragment, and to this day, his complaint remains a mystery.
My comments: Sundita justified the reverting by saying that:
1. the source is too old; and
2. it's a POV statement
A source is allowed to be old. History, one could argue, is old - but that's a matter of perspective. Sundita further claimed that this was Ureche's point of view. Well, as a matter of fact, it was also the view of the Prince of Moldavia at the time; it was also the view of Dimitrie Cantemir; and it was also the view of those Moldavians, including Ioan Cuza, who united Moldavia with Wallachia to create Romania. And it was the point of view of most Moldavians, I would dare to say, until 1994 onward. And, to my great shock, even CIA Factbook shares that POV. See here: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/md.html#People
But enough of POVs. Let it be known that Ureche was a scholar who identified foreign sources that also, to our greatest scandal on this Wiki, shared that POV; mostly, Polish and Hungarian sources.
My comments: Node's mystery intensifies and we might have to archive his comments on a seperate page. We should name it: The X Files.
My comments: Who is creating that subpage?
My comments: Sundita repeats the age of the source and concludes that in this amount of time, languages can change. This is irrelevant. Let languages change whenever they want - I should still have the right to post a source. And if Sundita wants a more recent source, he can check CIA Factbook. Or, he can consult Encyclopedia Britannica:
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-42814?query=moldovan&ct=eb
During the Soviet period the Moldavian language (as it was then called) was written in the Cyrillic alphabet. Soviet scholars, mainly for political reasons, insisted that this language was an independent Romance language that was distinct from Romanian. In fact the differences between the two languages are of little significance and are confined to phonetics and vocabulary. In 1989 the script of the Moldovan language was changed to Roman; thereupon began a heated debate over whether the language should be called Romanian or Moldovan.
Or, Sundita could consult BBC!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/country_profiles/3038982.stm
Two-thirds of Moldovans are of Romanian descent, the languages are virtually identical and the two countries share a common cultural heritage.
Can we use those fresh and credible sources in the article, Sundita?
My comments: Sundita now says that the source is not reliable. May I ask why? I think the source is very reliable. As I said: the scholar researched the history of Moldova and its language, and of course, he noticed that Moldovan and Wallachian was essentially the same language, and so he drew that conclusion - the same conclusion that the rest agreed upon and the same conclusion that CIA, BBC, Britannica, and god knows how many other sources, agree upon. Wikipedia is the only exception.
Those reasons have been given by the two friends on the edit history of this page. It can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Moldovan_language&curid=226999&action=history
But the fun doesn't end here. At RfM, where I presented my case, Sundita came up with the same reasons, [ but just a bit different in their approach]:
My comments: Sundita is now no longer disputing Ureche's opinion. It's just that languages can change a lot under 400 years. I have already responded to this opinion, but Sundita then says that he's interested in knowing what linguists around the world have to say about this. Fine! Let's ask them!
Let's ask the INSTITUTE OF LINGUISTICS of Moldova. This is what they call their language:
"In the field of dialectology and linguistic geography, the cartography of the materials was continued, aimed at compiling a linguistic atlas showing the territorial distribution of lexical units peculiar to the Romanian spoken between the Pruth and the Dniester, the same as in more remote zones."
http://www.asm.md/institute/lingvist/index_en.htm
My comments: Republic of Moldova lies between the Prut and the Dniester, and as you can clearly read from the text, they call their language for Romanian. You may read the full article.
More examples: http://www.asm.md/institute/litfolc/index_en.htm
Some scholars even wrote books about this dispute; one of them is American scholar Donald Leroy Dyer who wrote "The Romanian Dialect of Moldova: A Study in Language and Politics". His CV: http://www.olemiss.edu/depts/modern_languages/Dyer.html
You can buy his book on Amazon.
If Ureche is not good enough, then perhaps the popular opinion of linguistics is good enough? But why should I have their permission to use a source? I want to hear their argument. You can await further excuses made by the two fellows, but know that neither of them speak either Romanian, or this Moldovan language that was given birth in 1994 - because before that year, the language was called Romanian.
Thank you!
-- Anittas 04:20, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
I was out of line for posting on Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal since I am not a member of that group. I did so because this user was finding all avenues of dispute resolution unresponsive. This was a hostile experience for this user who was attempting to resolve a dispute. That was my motivation for doing so. I will not take this action in the future since my attempts at resolving this dispute are apparently not welcome at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal (both you and Kelly Martin have voiced that). As for the dispute resolution process itself, I encourage you to review my comments to User:Anittas. On many occasions I recommended that the user take their dispute to the talk page of the article in question as a first step in the dispute resolution process. Not the only step, but the first step. For backing in procedure regarding this, I refer you to Wikipedia:Resolving disputes, where it says "The first resort in resolving almost any conflict is to discuss the issue on a talk page.". This had not been done. I was not out of line in any respect for suggesting the user take this as a first step; in fact it is entirely appropriate. Such debates on talk pages can help to clarify the points at hand with people who are knowledgeable on the subject rather than people on mediation groups that have no personal knowledge of the subject. If the dispute can be resolved on the talk page of the article, it helps to reduce burden on the already over burdened dispute resolution processes. I stand by my actions in this regard and do not find fault with my suggestions in any respect. I was polite, encouraging, non-dismissive, and focused on getting the user to take that avenue of action. I also stand by my actions in noting that the user was potentially in violation of WP:3RR. As an admin, part of my responsibility is watching out for such revert wars and stopping them as appropriate. I am not heavy handed in such actions; I work first to get the users to willingly drop the revert war so that it doesn't crop up again right after blocks expire. My goal is to improve the users, not slap them with policy. I acted entirely appropriately in bringing this to the attention of the users in question, and would gladly do so again. It is standard behavior for conscientious administrators. I also stand by my comments regarding User:Anittas' incivility. I did not get hostile in response, and specifically said "With regards to "babbling", please observe Wikipedia:Civility. Thank you." Again, I was polite and to the point. I do not see any reason not to attempt to improve a user away from incivility by using such polite requests. It is entirely appropriate and I would do so again. My record here on Wikipedia shows that I am a calm, practiced editor and admin that admits error where appropriate, takes corrective action when needed, and has remained civil in a variety of tense situations. My RfA is testament to the community's support of my behavior. With that in mind, I would like to say very candidly that I have never been so offended here as I have been by your remarks and Kelly Martin's remarks. I have not been officious, my behavior has not been appalling , and I have most definitely been conscientious in my attempts at directing the dispute in appropriate ways. I feel that both you and Kelly Martin have not followed WP:AGF, but rather have assumed that I have tried to countermand the processes in place to handle dispute resolution when the opposite is clearly the case. Worse, you have taken to insulting my behavior as a consequence, rather than asking for clarification first as to what I was doing and why I was doing it (as I have given now). Good day, -- Durin 19:52, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
Dudes, there's no reason for you to argue about this. I got no problems with either of you. I'm not upset with you, Durin. I was annoyed, at the time, but that has passed. And me asking why you "babbled" was no big deal. I wasn't sure of what your intentions were. Whatever was said between you guys, just let it be water under the bridge. I don't want any of you to argue because of me; especially since the problem lies somewhere else. All of you seem reasonble. -- Anittas 20:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
(I am including this text here, which is a reply to Kelly's comments on my talk page, so that you may continue to be appraised of the situation)
Hey, Nicholas, do you have any news for me regarding the dispute? Thanks. -- Anittas 16:48, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
Nicholas,
You sure are a smoothy; your message makes me really sad. Yeah, I was really passionate about it, and loved interacting with other contributors. Thanks for your wonderful words! But I'm just too distressed and depressed by the huge amount of venom floating around in public about me ever to set foot on WP again.
If I haven't been blocked or the RfA terminated early, I'll make a statement on that page concerning how the procedure desperately needs to be reformed. The irony is that had Redwolf not kindly nominated me last week, I'd still be here, beavering away, helping people, critiqueing, and rewriting parts of project pages. It's all dissolved into sludge, now, and I'll leave really hating WP.
I was a professional musician until that age of 45 (five years ago), in a very traditional frame: I ended up teaching 18th- and 19th-century harmony and keyboard skills, and supervising the improvement of literacy skills in musicians at the University of Sydney. But classical music is shrinking, and my career wasn't in good shape, so I bailed out and have steadily built up a new career in editing - I get to work with some brilliant scientists who need help in the preparation of their grant applications; this is a bonus!
You appear to be an interesting and thoroughly likeable man. My email address is tony1 at iinet dot net dot au, and you're welcome to contact me too if there's anything you want to talk about.
Perhaps I can ask a favour? I'm having difficulty in finding an admin to kill off my user page and image when the time comes, probably next week. Might have someone's agreement, but if not, or if suddenly I'm blocked in the meantime, I'd appreciate it if you waited a few days and then did the deed. (But I'll understand completely if you're uncomfortable about it and say no!)
Sincere thanks, Nicholas.
Tony 00:28, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
It claims under your categories that you're an LGBT Wikipedian. Am I wrong in assuming that this would conflict with your apparent belief in Scientology? Is it just vandalism? Thanks. Sillstaw 22:18, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
First off i thank you for you line of communication in the matter. My reasons for editing is that i never sanctioned that my name be inclued in any part of any medation, nor did i agree to be inclued as a part of any medation process. The inclusion of my name only with out the inclusion of other is only to distort that he their are other in the dipute yet i am only one that has not allowed this user to, or one of a few, that has not allowed this user to get away with his POV war that he has instagated to force a merge of articles, and to distort the truth and misrespresent the facts that have not only been presented to him but to all useres. Unfortanially as is the case with vast majortiy of internal processes here, i find them infeffective, slow, and somethimes corupt, and i have very little faith in the internal workings of this system. I will consult on the infromation present but on in a private matter, but in the end i can only see this working as an appeasment, which will not be acceptable under the current cirmstances. -- Boothy443 | trácht ar 03:35, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi NicholasT: So, I know you're probably sick of this whole deal, but I noticed this on the new user log today:
The next action was to upload a picture of a few clowns over Image:PHOTOS IGOR GRICHKA.jpg, which I reverted a few times, since I was having a cache problem. I'm pretty sure this is either a sock or abusive username, so I blocked the account indefinitely under the ArbCom injunction. Would you like to review this block? You seem to be a chief enforcer of the affair, which we have so unfortunately fallen into. Thanks, Bratsche talk | Esperanza 04:46, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Just a pre-emptive warning; if things don't improve on Talk:Arvanitic language regarding the page move war, and the strained relations between the two main parties, then I may be calling in the Cabal for backup. Rob Church Talk 11:23, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
I have filed an RfC against Durin for the incident we both had with him last month. You may wish to review and certify the dispute. Kelly Martin ( talk) 13:33, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
I am going to unprotect the article for short periods of time, basically as bait, to see how many fish are out there and what they try to do. Fred Bauder 14:16, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
They seem to have stopped removing the source of Ureche, but now started to revert other edits made by other people, instead. I think that Node is causing grief and spreading propaganda. Someone added a fragment of text to compare so-called Moldovan to Romanian, and he removed it. Without asking questions or explaining why he did so, he just removed it. -- Anittas 21:07, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
User:Ted Wilkes has now deleted all edits by administrator FCYTravis to the Gavin Lambert, Nick Adams and James Dean articles. See [6], [7] and [8]. He and User:Wyss continue with accusing me of being a vandal, fabricating texts, etc. I think this behavior is unacceptable. Onefortyone 16:42, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Nicholas, just a reminder that the rollback function should only be used for removing vandalism. [9] Thanks! Carbonite | Talk 12:58, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Hi Nicholas, sorry for the mess: I figured that the article would be vandalized as soon as it would be unprotected, and I tried to insert my changes quickly, so I didn't check. Thanks for reinserting my changes. Ze miguel 12:31, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I've added a new section: Xenu#Xenu_in_popular_culture. The Marvel villain Xemnu probably deserves a mention as well - David Gerard 14:30, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Apologies for reverting your changes: I really hated doing that, but I strongly feel that we need to keep the numbers somewhere, as I've explained on the talk page. Also, I note your rewording tended to remove the "short descriptions" from the start of the bullet. If we do remove the numbers, I think we should still start each bullet with a short, easily remembered name. Thanks. Turnstep 17:04, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I noticed that you have listed yourself as a scientologist Wikipedian. You will probably be interested to know that Brian0918 has nominated Omnipotence paradox as the front page article for December 25th. You can vote on this matter here. The other suggestion being supported by others for that date is Christmas, although Raul654 has historically been against featuring articles on the same day as their anniversary/holiday. AngryParsley (talk) (contribs) 08:06, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
As a member of the Wikipedia:Mentorship Committee, you along with User:Marudubshinki and User:FCYTravis agreed to act as mentor for Anon 80.141 et al/Onefortyone who is on Wikipedia:probation. This person has returned to editing the same article with the same non-encyclopedic inserts, using distorted phrasing and quoting totally unacceptable sources in order to continue his agenda on the Nick Adams article. Your fellow mentor FCYTravis worked with me to achieve a consensus text pending resolution of the propriety of quoting certain sources. Despite our efforts, and despite being told his edits were improper by mentor FCYTravis, Onefortyone has ignored his mentor and repeatedly inserted them. As well, he continues his past pattern of behaviour of ignoring the facts as to why his edits are unacceptable that have been spelled out in precise detail on the Talk page over and over and over and deliberately obfuscates the issue with massive inserts of text on the Talk page. I and FCYTravis have done everything we can. Now I request that you and mentor Marudubshinki step in and examine this matter to take the appropriate action. - Ted Wilkes 07:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Hello Nicholas! Please tell me how can I involve myself in mediation? I would like to take part of mediation processes. I find it very interesting to be a mediator. Can I be a member of your team of Cabala mediators? -- Bonaparte talk 13:33, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
...beat that for a title. Just thought I'd drop you a note to check things are all OK - you haven't been on IRC in a while, and you didn't respond to my email. Hope the whole FSE/contracts/builders/finances issues aren't causing you hell.
Seen the demo site? The amount of progress we (Chris and I) have made will scare the living daylights out of you. Rob Church 23:32, 9 December 2005 (UTC)