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In a reply to another editor, I also addressed your objections to a proposed DYK. [1] Best regards, Kablammo ( talk) 21:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Why is what I thought I had coded as a hidden comment on Nero Award showing up in the visible test? I've probably made an obvious typo in the coding, but I'm not figuring out what it is. Thanks, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 21:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I literally did LOL. I honestly do know how busy life can get, especially with the line of work you're in in real life. Add on top of that all the email and arb stuff? ... good grief, I wouldn't want to deal with all that for all the rice in China. I can't even keep up in my own little corner of wp. OK, I admit I can get a bit down when you or Risker don't respond to an email or a talkpage post ... but seriously .. I do understand. Thanks Brad. That was more appreciated than you can know. — Ched : ? 21:44, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments the other day.-- ColonelHenry ( talk) 05:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
please check relations of am not new with child star.
listion the ip of child star is 182.188.190.59 taken from its investigation page and my ip is 119.154.4.48.there is absolute no relation between range.the only relation which is visible is relation between location internet service provider and location.and it is because there is only one ISP in Pakistan that is PTCL.i request another clerks to please check my relation again. Dil e Muslim talk 06:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
please i request you to see "am not new" and child star relation once again.please its important Dil e Muslim talk 14:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Any updates on this? :) — Cirt ( talk) 01:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
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List of special entities recognized by international treaty or agreement is nominated for deletion again. I'm contacting all of those who participated in the first AFD discussion. Dream Focus 02:26, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
will you please check this pageits important. Ghulam Mehar Ali ( talk) 11:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, Brad, I thoughtlessly and automatically corrected a little typo in the article just after I'd invited you to go ahead. If you get an edit conflict from that, please just save your changes over mine, because it was nothing. I'll leave it alone now, I promise. Bishonen | talk 22:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC).
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You took part in a previous discussion on the protection policy talk page about the reference to "uncontroversial" edits. A survey is now in progress on that page in response to a request for comments. You may want to visit that talk page again and provide your input to try to obtain consensus. Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:01, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
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I had thought it was a very cogent remark on your part ("sane") when I read it. Collect ( talk) 21:46, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. You've been in discussions on my talk page regarding Qworty, so might wish to contribute ideas, etc., to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NaymanNoland (section: "Project Qworty"). If you haven't read today's Salon article addressing this disaster, it's here: http://www.salon.com/2013/05/17/revenge_ego_and_the_corruption_of_wikipedia/ NaymanNoland ( talk) 22:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Believe me, I understand the concern about anonymity. I don't BELIEVE in anonymous editing, but this is an exception: when you're dealing with someone like Qworty, you're opening yourself up to years of obsessive revenge. I'd happily do all of this under my own name otherwise. In fact, I've considered outing myself a few times, on principle - I REALLY don't believe in anonymous editing - but I've been advised that that would be very very stupid. NaymanNoland ( talk) 16:11, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has not taken any action concerning this editor. Within the past few weeks I imposed various restrictions on him, in my individual capacity as an administrator (see also thread lower on this page). I have advised my colleagues on the Committee of my actions, but the issue is being handled at the community level. As most of you probably know, Ironholds has now indeffed Qworty for BLP violations, and there is a discussion on ANI trending in the direction of a community ban. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 20:09, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Comments on a couple of other aspects of the situation:
Re "an editor who is involved in an off-wiki controversy or dispute with another individual should generally refrain from editing the biographical article on that individual" - it seems odd to limit that to only "off-wiki" controversy or dispute; why is the venue so important, why is editing someone's article unacceptable if I have an off-wiki dispute with them but more acceptable if I have an on-wiki but otherwise identical dispute with them? 87.254.72.244 ( talk) 22:19, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Re: their recent thread comparing Wikipedia to the Westboro Baptist Church
- Please, Brad, less of the "they" and "their", as if Wikipediocracy is some monolithic group where a post by one user is representative of the view of all of them. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate someone there doing the same thing when speaking of people in this project. Thanks. —
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It's been a few years, but I sent you another one. Just curious - nothing of any import. — Ched : ? 05:21, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Brad. I saw the message you left retricting Qworty from BLP edits, but unfortunately you didn't make clear what authority you were acting under. Were you acting as (1) an individual admin taking an action you personally see as necessary, (2) an individual admin expressing the consensus of the community, (3) an individual arb taking an action you see as necessary, (4) an arb expressing the consensus of ArbCom, (5) ??? To clarify, I agree that the action was necessary, but I am troubled that you didn't explain why you have the power to do it, especially considering how careful you are most of the time. Regards, Looie496 ( talk) 16:24, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
It was a good move to shut him down, but you fucked up on the authority and should just be candid and admit it. (Kinda reminds me when you messed up in the Cla/Kevin case with a motion that didn't meet the nitpicky legal number rules and didn't admit it.)
BTW, are admins even allowed to make topic bans on their own? That BLPSE board sure seems to talk about rulings coming from the overall committee or an ANI "community" sanction. Can every other admin start making topic bans now all over the place?
In any case, communicate it as such...you should know better. There is a tendency for Arbs to try to act like super admins (taking some individual powers when there has been no actual vote). I think the whole elder statesman of Wiki has gone to your head a bit (too many trips to negotiate with the WMF and nice mentions by Sue). Write an article...I don't trust people who puff themselves up as defender of the Wiki and don't write. TCO ( talk) 21:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
For the record, in my capacity as ArbCom's liaison to the Office (a position created at the Office's request and certainly not at mine), I have taken a grand total of one trip to San Francisco for a day of meetings, about a year and a half ago. This was mentioned on-wiki at the time. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 22:25, 18 May 2013 (UTC) I've also created about 100 articles, albeit fewer lately (three this year, I believe); I keep vowing to spend more time in mainspace, but then I get diverted to dealing with situations like this one. Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 00:58, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps your subconscious was thinking there are only a few sane sentences in Arbitration.... [4] Killer Chihuahua 02:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Go Phightins ! 22:17, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
with you being recused, and apparently enough votes for the motion to pass for suspension/closure now, i wonder if you have the time/ability to talk with me a bit more? I am eager to get input on my behavior, in part because i feel like there is still something of a cloud over my editing. I want to at least have some idea of what to look out for before moving forward. I know I have made some obvious mistakes, and tried to acknowledge them in the statement and evidence sections. What I'm looking for is issues that I'm not so aware of. Any suggestion/comment is welcome. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/ talk ] # _ 00:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate what you're saying there, but it's not an AfD so a "keep" isn't the appropriate thing to post there. Could you please comment on whether you think the AfD should be reopened/relisted, as that's the issue at hand? Prioryman ( talk) 22:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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In a reply to another editor, I also addressed your objections to a proposed DYK. [1] Best regards, Kablammo ( talk) 21:45, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
Why is what I thought I had coded as a hidden comment on Nero Award showing up in the visible test? I've probably made an obvious typo in the coding, but I'm not figuring out what it is. Thanks, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 21:23, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I literally did LOL. I honestly do know how busy life can get, especially with the line of work you're in in real life. Add on top of that all the email and arb stuff? ... good grief, I wouldn't want to deal with all that for all the rice in China. I can't even keep up in my own little corner of wp. OK, I admit I can get a bit down when you or Risker don't respond to an email or a talkpage post ... but seriously .. I do understand. Thanks Brad. That was more appreciated than you can know. — Ched : ? 21:44, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments the other day.-- ColonelHenry ( talk) 05:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
please check relations of am not new with child star.
listion the ip of child star is 182.188.190.59 taken from its investigation page and my ip is 119.154.4.48.there is absolute no relation between range.the only relation which is visible is relation between location internet service provider and location.and it is because there is only one ISP in Pakistan that is PTCL.i request another clerks to please check my relation again. Dil e Muslim talk 06:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
please i request you to see "am not new" and child star relation once again.please its important Dil e Muslim talk 14:01, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
Any updates on this? :) — Cirt ( talk) 01:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, May 11 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!
For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill [talk] 23:06, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
-- A Certain White Cat chi? 10:25, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
Gilderien Chat| List of good deeds 22:01, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
List of special entities recognized by international treaty or agreement is nominated for deletion again. I'm contacting all of those who participated in the first AFD discussion. Dream Focus 02:26, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
will you please check this pageits important. Ghulam Mehar Ali ( talk) 11:24, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, Brad, I thoughtlessly and automatically corrected a little typo in the article just after I'd invited you to go ahead. If you get an edit conflict from that, please just save your changes over mine, because it was nothing. I'll leave it alone now, I promise. Bishonen | talk 22:22, 12 May 2013 (UTC).
An arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics. Evidence that you wish the Arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence sub-page, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics/Evidence. Please add your evidence by May 21, 2013, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can contribute to the case workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Race and politics/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Ks0stm ( T• C• G• E) 01:56, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
You took part in a previous discussion on the protection policy talk page about the reference to "uncontroversial" edits. A survey is now in progress on that page in response to a request for comments. You may want to visit that talk page again and provide your input to try to obtain consensus. Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:01, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for our next DC WikiSalon, which will be held on the evening of May 24 at our K Street office.
The WikiSalon an informal gathering of Wikimedia enthusiasts, who come together to discuss the Wikimedia projects and collaboratively edit. There's no set agenda, and guests are welcome to recommend articles for the group to edit or edit on their own. Light refreshments will be provided.
We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill [talk] 18:21, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I had thought it was a very cogent remark on your part ("sane") when I read it. Collect ( talk) 21:46, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi there. You've been in discussions on my talk page regarding Qworty, so might wish to contribute ideas, etc., to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NaymanNoland (section: "Project Qworty"). If you haven't read today's Salon article addressing this disaster, it's here: http://www.salon.com/2013/05/17/revenge_ego_and_the_corruption_of_wikipedia/ NaymanNoland ( talk) 22:11, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Believe me, I understand the concern about anonymity. I don't BELIEVE in anonymous editing, but this is an exception: when you're dealing with someone like Qworty, you're opening yourself up to years of obsessive revenge. I'd happily do all of this under my own name otherwise. In fact, I've considered outing myself a few times, on principle - I REALLY don't believe in anonymous editing - but I've been advised that that would be very very stupid. NaymanNoland ( talk) 16:11, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
The Arbitration Committee has not taken any action concerning this editor. Within the past few weeks I imposed various restrictions on him, in my individual capacity as an administrator (see also thread lower on this page). I have advised my colleagues on the Committee of my actions, but the issue is being handled at the community level. As most of you probably know, Ironholds has now indeffed Qworty for BLP violations, and there is a discussion on ANI trending in the direction of a community ban. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 20:09, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Comments on a couple of other aspects of the situation:
Re "an editor who is involved in an off-wiki controversy or dispute with another individual should generally refrain from editing the biographical article on that individual" - it seems odd to limit that to only "off-wiki" controversy or dispute; why is the venue so important, why is editing someone's article unacceptable if I have an off-wiki dispute with them but more acceptable if I have an on-wiki but otherwise identical dispute with them? 87.254.72.244 ( talk) 22:19, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Re: their recent thread comparing Wikipedia to the Westboro Baptist Church
- Please, Brad, less of the "they" and "their", as if Wikipediocracy is some monolithic group where a post by one user is representative of the view of all of them. I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate someone there doing the same thing when speaking of people in this project. Thanks. —
Scott •
talk
14:39, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
It's been a few years, but I sent you another one. Just curious - nothing of any import. — Ched : ? 05:21, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi Brad. I saw the message you left retricting Qworty from BLP edits, but unfortunately you didn't make clear what authority you were acting under. Were you acting as (1) an individual admin taking an action you personally see as necessary, (2) an individual admin expressing the consensus of the community, (3) an individual arb taking an action you see as necessary, (4) an arb expressing the consensus of ArbCom, (5) ??? To clarify, I agree that the action was necessary, but I am troubled that you didn't explain why you have the power to do it, especially considering how careful you are most of the time. Regards, Looie496 ( talk) 16:24, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
It was a good move to shut him down, but you fucked up on the authority and should just be candid and admit it. (Kinda reminds me when you messed up in the Cla/Kevin case with a motion that didn't meet the nitpicky legal number rules and didn't admit it.)
BTW, are admins even allowed to make topic bans on their own? That BLPSE board sure seems to talk about rulings coming from the overall committee or an ANI "community" sanction. Can every other admin start making topic bans now all over the place?
In any case, communicate it as such...you should know better. There is a tendency for Arbs to try to act like super admins (taking some individual powers when there has been no actual vote). I think the whole elder statesman of Wiki has gone to your head a bit (too many trips to negotiate with the WMF and nice mentions by Sue). Write an article...I don't trust people who puff themselves up as defender of the Wiki and don't write. TCO ( talk) 21:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
For the record, in my capacity as ArbCom's liaison to the Office (a position created at the Office's request and certainly not at mine), I have taken a grand total of one trip to San Francisco for a day of meetings, about a year and a half ago. This was mentioned on-wiki at the time. Newyorkbrad ( talk) 22:25, 18 May 2013 (UTC) I've also created about 100 articles, albeit fewer lately (three this year, I believe); I keep vowing to spend more time in mainspace, but then I get diverted to dealing with situations like this one. Regards, Newyorkbrad ( talk) 00:58, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps your subconscious was thinking there are only a few sane sentences in Arbitration.... [4] Killer Chihuahua 02:04, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Go Phightins ! 22:17, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
with you being recused, and apparently enough votes for the motion to pass for suspension/closure now, i wonder if you have the time/ability to talk with me a bit more? I am eager to get input on my behavior, in part because i feel like there is still something of a cloud over my editing. I want to at least have some idea of what to look out for before moving forward. I know I have made some obvious mistakes, and tried to acknowledge them in the statement and evidence sections. What I'm looking for is issues that I'm not so aware of. Any suggestion/comment is welcome. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/ talk ] # _ 00:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate what you're saying there, but it's not an AfD so a "keep" isn't the appropriate thing to post there. Could you please comment on whether you think the AfD should be reopened/relisted, as that's the issue at hand? Prioryman ( talk) 22:37, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!
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If you are interested in participating, please register by sending an email to pmhmeet@gmail.com. Please indicate if you are coming in person or if you will be joining us via the webinar. After registering, you will receive additional information about how to get to our campus (if coming in-person) and details about how to join the webinar. Klortho ( talk) 00:46, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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An editor is requesting close of an RFC/U based on Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Tea Party movement. They're not listed as an involved party and I'm thinking ya'll wouldn't want additional parties added to a two month case? I'm asking you and ST as the drafting arbitrators; would be helpful if you answered at ANI NE Ent 12:13, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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My apologies if you aren't from the US, but I assumed you are based on your username. AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
Any updates on this? :) — Cirt ( talk) 01:47, 5 May 2013 (UTC)