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You reverted this edit I made to the Main Page's talk page. Do you have a better idea of where I should open that discussion? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 15:51, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 1997 NASCAR Nationwide Series. Since you had some involvement with the 1997 NASCAR Nationwide Series redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 01:51, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I noticed a few relists by you at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 16 that should have been closed as delete. WP:RGUIDE: "If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion, the default result is delete.". That applies to
Paradoctor ( talk) 14:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi Max, please take time to understand sourcing policies before you comment on AfD debates again. I'd reccomend WP:PRSOURCE and why it doesn't count toward WP:GNG as a non-independent sources. I don't know how many times I have to slap you on the wrist before you learn to make comments that are in line with Wikipedia policy, but I'm hoping this one will be the last one. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 17:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi again, NASCARfan0548! I've seen all your messages over the past few weeks about article requests and possibilities for me to create/work on. I know you've been tracking my edits, but I never had the time to respond to you with a talk page message, so here it is. I will indeed consider working on everybody you mentioned (including adding missing results tables). I wanted to let you know that I recently came across a list on your user page of drivers from the 2010's decade that don't yet have articles about them. Those are all people I'll also consider if I can find enough sources about them/their background. You've probably also have seen that I unluckily have had some of my articles (particularly about ARCA drivers) nominated for deletion. On that note, I will also let you know to stay tuned for a message on my user page coming soon about my future editing plans. What I'll be focusing on editing soon will be different than previously. I won't be creating as many more new ARCA driver articles since some of them were nominated for deletion and look incomplete/don't have enough sources. I've learned what some of the rules are for creating pages, so I know I need to change what and how I'm editing. But don't worry, I still may create pages for the drivers you've listed there. It seems like Truck Series drivers are kind of "safe" from deletion because it's a top three series and ARCA is not. When I create more pages about drivers, it'll mostly be top three series drivers now. Talk again soon! Cavanaughs ( talk) 17:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Cavanaughs
Thank you so much! NASCARfan0548 ↗ 17:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Who is your favorite of the Hendrick guys? Rocket Man448 ( talk) 21:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
My favorite drivers are all the Hendrick drivers: Chase Elliott, William Byron, Jimmie Johnson, and Alex Bowman. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 23:24, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
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Heya, I just saw this edit and was curious what the significance of adding "|64" to Category:Mario Kart is. I don't recall having seen anything like that done with categories before and I couldn't figure out what was changed by doing it.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC) Ack, sorry, it wasn't you who made that change. I forgot that I clicked on "cur" instead of "prev". Nonetheless, if you happen to know the answer to my question...-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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If you know you should be creating pages with multiple independent, reliable sources, then why don't you do it? I'm the one who distinguished ARCA as a non-professional series, I don't need an education on that. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 03:15, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Max, just wanted to let you know that I'm aware that you check my contributions multiple times a day. It's frankly kind of creepy, if I'm being honest with you. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 18:19, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Please show me three examples of me engaging in this sort of behavior. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 18:44, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the third opinion, Dolotta. I just find it more than a tad unnerving. And Max - the request to expand Loikan still stands. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 18:57, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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I just took a very quick glance through your work, and it looks pretty good. Keep it up! -- Dolotta ( talk) 23:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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@ Willsome429: Max was granted the autopatrolled right two weeks ago by WereSpielChequers, who may want to be given a heads up. That being said, may I recommend focusing on the many other tasks Wikipedia has to offer other than Max's edits? The two have you have been going back and forth for over a year now. -- Dolotta ( talk) 00:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I will start creating well-sourced articles from now onwhen they should've always been doing so. As well, Jeff Agnew
Hi Max (yes, I found out your first name!),
Yes, I can create those articles! I did come across your list(s) a month or so ago. I've slowed down on creating new articles after a few of them (all ARCA drivers) were nominated for deletion due to lack of sources or sources that weren't press releases. At around the same time, I realized that we had so many results tables to add to drivers and more kept being added to the list, so that become my main focus and you've seen that I've been doing that for about a month and a half/two months now. But yes, some of the articles you have on your list can be next for me to tackle, and they are Truck drivers, so they aren't as easy to nominate for deletion since it's a top 3 series. (Now that doesn't mean I'll make those articles lackluster. I will put the work/research into them.) I'll probably get around to them over the course of the summer. What I'll do is probably throw in an article from your list every so often while continuing to add results tables. That list is so darn long that I think it's become a priority to make it shorter, AKA to get those results tables done! :) I have seen all your requests for the past few months on my talk page, which are mostly drivers that are on your list.
Something else I wanted to bring up was that after you messaged me a few weeks ago that Willsome suddenly left Wikipedia as an editor, I did click on the link you attached in it to your talk page and found the argument between you guys. I didn't even know that was going on for some time, and the end result of him leaving was unfortunate. With all do respect to you, I do think both sides are to blame in the argument. My advice to you (and this seems to be what got him upset with you) is don't create so many articles just so that they get published; make sure it looks good first and put the work into it before publishing it. (This especially includes putting in a career section with sources instead of just the intro and results tables for a driver!) I've learned that from him, and now I know not to create as many articles without sources (particularly ARCA drivers) and such. Whenever I got an article nomination for deletion, an edit revert, or a talk page message from him, I did feel bummed for myself, but it made me a better editor and I'm glad we had someone like that who was a check for us NASCAR editors. Now that we don't have an "overseer" anymore, I will be more careful what edits I make and pages I create in the future. In terms of what he said about you following his edits, I do agree with him that you should stop doing that if he says to, but I do agree with you that it isn't necessarily a bad thing to look at people's edit history/contributions. I can tell you do that with me, and I don't get agitated by it like he did, so you can still look at mine, just so you know going forward.
Thanks again,
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You reverted this edit I made to the Main Page's talk page. Do you have a better idea of where I should open that discussion? davidwr/( talk)/( contribs) 15:51, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 1997 NASCAR Nationwide Series. Since you had some involvement with the 1997 NASCAR Nationwide Series redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 01:51, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I noticed a few relists by you at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 March 16 that should have been closed as delete. WP:RGUIDE: "If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion, the default result is delete.". That applies to
Paradoctor ( talk) 14:32, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi Max, please take time to understand sourcing policies before you comment on AfD debates again. I'd reccomend WP:PRSOURCE and why it doesn't count toward WP:GNG as a non-independent sources. I don't know how many times I have to slap you on the wrist before you learn to make comments that are in line with Wikipedia policy, but I'm hoping this one will be the last one. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 17:34, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi again, NASCARfan0548! I've seen all your messages over the past few weeks about article requests and possibilities for me to create/work on. I know you've been tracking my edits, but I never had the time to respond to you with a talk page message, so here it is. I will indeed consider working on everybody you mentioned (including adding missing results tables). I wanted to let you know that I recently came across a list on your user page of drivers from the 2010's decade that don't yet have articles about them. Those are all people I'll also consider if I can find enough sources about them/their background. You've probably also have seen that I unluckily have had some of my articles (particularly about ARCA drivers) nominated for deletion. On that note, I will also let you know to stay tuned for a message on my user page coming soon about my future editing plans. What I'll be focusing on editing soon will be different than previously. I won't be creating as many more new ARCA driver articles since some of them were nominated for deletion and look incomplete/don't have enough sources. I've learned what some of the rules are for creating pages, so I know I need to change what and how I'm editing. But don't worry, I still may create pages for the drivers you've listed there. It seems like Truck Series drivers are kind of "safe" from deletion because it's a top three series and ARCA is not. When I create more pages about drivers, it'll mostly be top three series drivers now. Talk again soon! Cavanaughs ( talk) 17:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)Cavanaughs
Thank you so much! NASCARfan0548 ↗ 17:21, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Who is your favorite of the Hendrick guys? Rocket Man448 ( talk) 21:39, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
My favorite drivers are all the Hendrick drivers: Chase Elliott, William Byron, Jimmie Johnson, and Alex Bowman. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 23:24, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hey! Did you send the two edits to the Oversight team? -- MrClog ( talk) 00:18, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Heya, I just saw this edit and was curious what the significance of adding "|64" to Category:Mario Kart is. I don't recall having seen anything like that done with categories before and I couldn't figure out what was changed by doing it.-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC) Ack, sorry, it wasn't you who made that change. I forgot that I clicked on "cur" instead of "prev". Nonetheless, if you happen to know the answer to my question...-- Martin IIIa ( talk) 21:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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The Harley J. Earl Trophy is the trophy presented to the winner of the premier – and season-opening – event of the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR), the Daytona 500. It is named after influential automobile designer Harley Earl, who served as the second commissioner of NASCAR. Earl has been known as the so-called "father of the Corvette" and designer of the Firebird I prototype that adorns the trophy. The trophy is kept on display at the Daytona International Speedway, while a small replica is given to each Daytona 500 winner. ( Read more...) |
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Hi Max, just wanted to let you know that I'm aware that you check my contributions multiple times a day. It's frankly kind of creepy, if I'm being honest with you. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 18:19, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Please show me three examples of me engaging in this sort of behavior. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 18:44, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the third opinion, Dolotta. I just find it more than a tad unnerving. And Max - the request to expand Loikan still stands. Willsome429 ( say hey or see my edits!) 18:57, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi Max. Could you please explain why you nominated Willsome429 for adminship before consulting with him at all? RfA policy states: "If you wish to nominate someone else, check with them before making the nomination page." -- Bcschneider53 ( talk) 19:25, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I just took a very quick glance through your work, and it looks pretty good. Keep it up! -- Dolotta ( talk) 23:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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Willsome429 (
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22:16, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@ Willsome429: Max was granted the autopatrolled right two weeks ago by WereSpielChequers, who may want to be given a heads up. That being said, may I recommend focusing on the many other tasks Wikipedia has to offer other than Max's edits? The two have you have been going back and forth for over a year now. -- Dolotta ( talk) 00:37, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I will start creating well-sourced articles from now onwhen they should've always been doing so. As well, Jeff Agnew
Hi Max (yes, I found out your first name!),
Yes, I can create those articles! I did come across your list(s) a month or so ago. I've slowed down on creating new articles after a few of them (all ARCA drivers) were nominated for deletion due to lack of sources or sources that weren't press releases. At around the same time, I realized that we had so many results tables to add to drivers and more kept being added to the list, so that become my main focus and you've seen that I've been doing that for about a month and a half/two months now. But yes, some of the articles you have on your list can be next for me to tackle, and they are Truck drivers, so they aren't as easy to nominate for deletion since it's a top 3 series. (Now that doesn't mean I'll make those articles lackluster. I will put the work/research into them.) I'll probably get around to them over the course of the summer. What I'll do is probably throw in an article from your list every so often while continuing to add results tables. That list is so darn long that I think it's become a priority to make it shorter, AKA to get those results tables done! :) I have seen all your requests for the past few months on my talk page, which are mostly drivers that are on your list.
Something else I wanted to bring up was that after you messaged me a few weeks ago that Willsome suddenly left Wikipedia as an editor, I did click on the link you attached in it to your talk page and found the argument between you guys. I didn't even know that was going on for some time, and the end result of him leaving was unfortunate. With all do respect to you, I do think both sides are to blame in the argument. My advice to you (and this seems to be what got him upset with you) is don't create so many articles just so that they get published; make sure it looks good first and put the work into it before publishing it. (This especially includes putting in a career section with sources instead of just the intro and results tables for a driver!) I've learned that from him, and now I know not to create as many articles without sources (particularly ARCA drivers) and such. Whenever I got an article nomination for deletion, an edit revert, or a talk page message from him, I did feel bummed for myself, but it made me a better editor and I'm glad we had someone like that who was a check for us NASCAR editors. Now that we don't have an "overseer" anymore, I will be more careful what edits I make and pages I create in the future. In terms of what he said about you following his edits, I do agree with him that you should stop doing that if he says to, but I do agree with you that it isn't necessarily a bad thing to look at people's edit history/contributions. I can tell you do that with me, and I don't get agitated by it like he did, so you can still look at mine, just so you know going forward.
Thanks again,
Sean (that's my first name!)
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00:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)Cavanaughs