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Hello N2e: I found you on Among Men's page. We have been working on the Article /info/en/?search=Warm_Mouse
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The owner of WarmMe Warm Mouse is trying to SPAM this article for self serving purposes. The owner resides in Ventura California. New user making two changes only to that page to include the name of the product they sell online and it is not mentioned at all in any of the references listed on the page.
/info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/99.151.22.177 Can we monitor this page a little more closely so it does not turn into a disruptive situation? I also added this to the article's Talk page.
I am fairly new here -- editing for a few months. Been gone due to business & medical. Was notified of this spam.
Thank you for your guidance and support. 301man ( talk) 09:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. Back in April you added the "Derelict satellites orbiting Mars" category to the article Mars 2. I was wondering if you had a source that states that the satellite is definitely still in orbit, because I've been asked about it on my talkpage. Cheers, Reyk YO! 21:17, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names ( more than 1500 yesterday). But it is impossible to work it alone. Do you know how to do a " Blitz" (excuse the comparision) to find willing editors to work on it. It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.
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SalopianJames ( talk) 21:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I've drawn up a couple of prototype launch articles to see if they are feasible. They're not finished yet, but could you possibly have a quick look at User:WDGraham/LA and User:WDGraham/LA2 and let me know what you think. -- W. D. Graham 21:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi N2e, please take over from me on the floating turbines. I just added the big Bossler report. The Maine Hywind text should probably be moved to Proposals. Those two projects are too much for me now; I invite you and others to go ahead. TGCP ( talk) 12:59, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
You claim that I am not assuming WP:AGF. I am saying that the original editor who demonstrated his promotional behavior to advance his commercial interest rather than accurately conveying information in objective manner is not acting in good faith, because he's demonstrated so. I'm objecting the reinsertion of his biased sales speak, not that you're doing so in bad faith. Cantaloupe2 ( talk) 01:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
i noticed there are two articles about the exact same thing. both have been heavily edited. List_of_production_battery_electric_vehicles and Currently_available_electric_cars. the titles mean exactly the same thing. what do you propose we do about it? Among Men ( talk) 03:24, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
also see: List of modern production plug-in electric vehicles Among Men ( talk) 03:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I think you should read Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary especially when dealing with good faith efforts. Ajh1492 ( talk) 20:24, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
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I replied to your question about the proposed essay. By the way, there's also been another round of comments on the Atlas talk page. W. D. Graham 20:39, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Looking at this post of yours, you've inserted it in the middle of my text. It would be nice if you could find somewhere else to put it - after mine, for example - or just remove it completely, as it apperantly serves no useful purpose other than commentary. Thanks. -- Pete ( talk) 18:38, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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We are both updating the methane article at the same time. Please put back my new paragraph on Project Morpheus. Andrew Swallow ( talk) 17:44, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
N2e, if you could just hold back on trying to nail the article down to some fixed point, that would be great. Wikipedia articles change, they mature with collaborative input, they get better. The Lynx article has some major problems, particularly in sourcing, and we're going to fix them. I'm particularly heartened by the interest shown by all editors in improvement. Now, I try not to be wedded to any one viewpoint - none of us "owns" the article and if evidence or consensus moves away from my preferred position, that's fine. I'm often wrong. But the big thing is that we have robust, fact-based discussion, we play by the rules, we work together. It doesn't help us move the thing forward by being overly fixated on any one preferred version. I wasn't wedded to "concept", nor am I committed to "program". I'm flexible and I'm concerned that you aren't. That's not an attitude that can work in a collaborative environment such as Wikipedia. Attachment necessarily leads to conflict and unhappiness.
Certainly I'm playing devil's advocate here, but within myself I'm as big a spacenut as anybody.
The bottom line is that Wikipedia isn't about any one editor. Not me. Not you. It's about coöperation.
Lastly, let me commend to you the words of Marsilio Ficino: Three things in particular patience teaches us, it seems to me: first, that you should be willing to bear cheerfully the ills that nature herself bids you bear unwillingly; second, that you should make those things that fate has decreed to be inevitable, agreeable to your own will; third, that you should turn any evil whatsoever into good, which is the office of God alone. in the first of these, patience requires you to oppose nature, in the second, to confound fate, and in the third, to raise yourself to the level of God. -- Pete ( talk) 22:11, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I just want to say thank you for your patience and diligence on the recent BRD process on the Lynx page. I think the discussion generated is twice as long as the actual page! -- IanOsgood ( talk) 05:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey N2e, thanks for placing those Subscription templates, but note that you've been placing them inside the citation template. Might want to move them outside for display purposes, and so there's no potential muckups for future formatting. — Huntster ( t @ c) 15:46, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
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N2e, I just wanted to point out that User CorporateM removed your recent contribution to Suburban Express article in a stealth edit which supposedly added a clarification:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Suburban_Express&diff=580292474&oldid=580259980
This is a pattern which CorporateM seems to routinely follow when twisting this article to his POV. If you are an admin, perhaps you will want to look at SlimVirgin's suggestions on the article's talk page.
Best Arri at Suburban Express ( talk) 14:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
e have battled all sorts of fraud during the course of our history - people making fake tickets, tons of bad checks, people passing their receipt out the bathroom window to a friend who then tells driver he is getting back on, and so forth. Fraud has lead to collection action of various forms, and it recently got some negative press because a small handful of nasty little assholes decided to devote their lives to trashing us. Their actions have not impacted ridership, but they have frustrated my employees and I by trashing us online wherever they get the chance. My instincts tell me that the user who is most committed to injecting POV into the article was contacted by one of the haters, who works in PR for the university and has contacts in that world.
The supposed "controversy" is a mish-mash of different issues that the haters are promoting, all rolled into one: 1) we filed 100ish small claims suits in a short period of time. the number was unusual because we had about a 2 year backlog of debts to collect; 2) A subcontracted driver was rude to a student who does not speak english. He was promptly reprimanded and we sought to apologize to the passenger, but did not succeed in identifying her. A loudmouth narcissistic attention seeking student who was on the bus posted the story to facebook from the bus and spent every waking moment posting the story everywhere he could. 3) This led to a situation on Reddit where the loudmouth and his friends were trashing S.E. as best they could and the moderator started manipulating the conversation, by deleting comments made in support of S.E. That got out of hand and our attorney sent a demand letter to the moderator. The moderator then exploited free-speech bloggers and caused the BIG STORY to spread. Self-interest came into play - Reddit is owned by conde nast. Reddit benefits from awareness of reddit. Reddit can only exist if users are free to say whatever they want. Conde Nast also owns Ars Technica. Ars Technica wrote several blog posts about how horrible SE is for trying to suppress free speech on reddit. See how this works? Downstream lower-quality blogs regurgitated the free-speech story.
Two of the haters, now armed with SOURCES, took to Wikipedia and transformed this https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Suburban_Express&oldid=542659074 into a very skewed mess. Then the problem became recursive - bloggers mentioned wikipedia, which led readers to trash the wikipedia page even more. Wiki editors cited the articles that cited wikipedia and the list of blogs that had covered the matter grew and grew. Now, the haters assert that the body of trash-news justifies giving the trash significant weight in the article - to the point where the real story of the company is pushed out. You can see this in corpm's proposed edit. He wants to remove from the lede the fact that the company was started by a student, and other key facts.
In any event, I applaud your efforts to move the article in a more academic direction, and I'm glad that someone with an econ background has arrived on-scene. You may find some stuff here interesting: http://www.toeppen.com
Best Arri at Suburban Express ( talk) 16:23, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I made some corrections to the Bed sizes article (not the most important one...), which immediately got reverted by you. I'd recommend you to save these kind of reverts to slightly more important issues, and that you consider the rest of the article before you press revert...
From the other comments on your talk page (and in the archive) I see that you hit the revert button quite often, and that you leave somewhat paternalistic messages when you do. I think you should read Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary especially when dealing with good faith efforts.
Ebben ( talk) 00:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I'm N2e. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Bed size, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.
Hi, not sure why you thought my change to the 3D printing page wasn't constructive, the 3D printer in question's name was incorrect (it was called the Peach Printer rather than the Peachy Printer), so I corrected it. If you don't believe me, then feel free to check their website: http://www.peachyprinter.com/ or even the reference given at the end of the sentence in question, which both give the correct name.
I have mentioned you in an Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents post 24.15.78.1 ( talk) 04:58, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I've nominated Paranor for retargeting at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November 13#Paranor. Since you participated in the AfD discussion for the page, you may be interested in commenting on this proposal. -- BDD ( talk) 19:13, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, N2e , please notice , this User ip 111.243.34.140 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/111.243.34.140 , Vandalism a lot of article, please stop it , thank you Buglerazedg21dnlole ( talk) 12:42, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, i am sorry but this is beyond my competency.-- Beaucouplusneutre ( talk) 11:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24715-fiercest-meteor-shower-on-record-to-hit-mars-via-comet.html Spooky. Derelict satellites or satellite pulp? - BatteryIncluded ( talk) 19:11, 7 December 2013 (UTC)
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Hey N2e. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.
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Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:48, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello N2e: I found you on Among Men's page. We have been working on the Article /info/en/?search=Warm_Mouse
Thank you for offering your help because Help is needed.
In reference to: /info/en/?search=Warm_Mouse
IP address 99.151.22.177 is the owner of the changes made and has a clear conflict of interest: 1. added their product's name 2. removed images uploaded to Commons
http://myip.ms/view/ip_addresses/1670845952/99.151.22.0_99.151.22.255
The owner of WarmMe Warm Mouse is trying to SPAM this article for self serving purposes. The owner resides in Ventura California. New user making two changes only to that page to include the name of the product they sell online and it is not mentioned at all in any of the references listed on the page.
/info/en/?search=Special:Contributions/99.151.22.177 Can we monitor this page a little more closely so it does not turn into a disruptive situation? I also added this to the article's Talk page.
I am fairly new here -- editing for a few months. Been gone due to business & medical. Was notified of this spam.
Thank you for your guidance and support. 301man ( talk) 09:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Seeing as you are always giving out cookies, I wanted to say, "Thank you" for the help you've given me to learn a few new editorial tricks today. It was a trying experience to figure out how to use the same cite more than once, and I did it. Thanks for you help. And, here's a snack for you in return. I enjoyed my cookies, too!
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Hello. Back in April you added the "Derelict satellites orbiting Mars" category to the article Mars 2. I was wondering if you had a source that states that the satellite is definitely still in orbit, because I've been asked about it on my talkpage. Cheers, Reyk YO! 21:17, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Hello - some editors fight off the vandal hordes, as I do repairing pages with citation errors. If I didn't - there would be a large backlog in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting and in Category:Pages with missing references list as in Category:Pages with broken reference names ( more than 1500 yesterday). But it is impossible to work it alone. Do you know how to do a " Blitz" (excuse the comparision) to find willing editors to work on it. It is much more easier to repair references if you do it one hour, one day or one week ago after the errors were made instead of months and years after the error was done. Very, very difficult to find these errors.
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Best wishes & thanks -- Frze > talk 09:01, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
SalopianJames ( talk) 21:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
I've drawn up a couple of prototype launch articles to see if they are feasible. They're not finished yet, but could you possibly have a quick look at User:WDGraham/LA and User:WDGraham/LA2 and let me know what you think. -- W. D. Graham 21:03, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi N2e, please take over from me on the floating turbines. I just added the big Bossler report. The Maine Hywind text should probably be moved to Proposals. Those two projects are too much for me now; I invite you and others to go ahead. TGCP ( talk) 12:59, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
You claim that I am not assuming WP:AGF. I am saying that the original editor who demonstrated his promotional behavior to advance his commercial interest rather than accurately conveying information in objective manner is not acting in good faith, because he's demonstrated so. I'm objecting the reinsertion of his biased sales speak, not that you're doing so in bad faith. Cantaloupe2 ( talk) 01:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
i noticed there are two articles about the exact same thing. both have been heavily edited. List_of_production_battery_electric_vehicles and Currently_available_electric_cars. the titles mean exactly the same thing. what do you propose we do about it? Among Men ( talk) 03:24, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
also see: List of modern production plug-in electric vehicles Among Men ( talk) 03:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
I think you should read Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary especially when dealing with good faith efforts. Ajh1492 ( talk) 20:24, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
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There is a suggestion on Wikipedia:Bot requests for a new REFBot working as DPL bot and BracketBot do. I beg politely for consideration. Please leave a comment if you wish. Thanks a lot in anticipation. -- Frze ( talk · contribs) 04:07, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
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I replied to your question about the proposed essay. By the way, there's also been another round of comments on the Atlas talk page. W. D. Graham 20:39, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
Looking at this post of yours, you've inserted it in the middle of my text. It would be nice if you could find somewhere else to put it - after mine, for example - or just remove it completely, as it apperantly serves no useful purpose other than commentary. Thanks. -- Pete ( talk) 18:38, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
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We are both updating the methane article at the same time. Please put back my new paragraph on Project Morpheus. Andrew Swallow ( talk) 17:44, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
N2e, if you could just hold back on trying to nail the article down to some fixed point, that would be great. Wikipedia articles change, they mature with collaborative input, they get better. The Lynx article has some major problems, particularly in sourcing, and we're going to fix them. I'm particularly heartened by the interest shown by all editors in improvement. Now, I try not to be wedded to any one viewpoint - none of us "owns" the article and if evidence or consensus moves away from my preferred position, that's fine. I'm often wrong. But the big thing is that we have robust, fact-based discussion, we play by the rules, we work together. It doesn't help us move the thing forward by being overly fixated on any one preferred version. I wasn't wedded to "concept", nor am I committed to "program". I'm flexible and I'm concerned that you aren't. That's not an attitude that can work in a collaborative environment such as Wikipedia. Attachment necessarily leads to conflict and unhappiness.
Certainly I'm playing devil's advocate here, but within myself I'm as big a spacenut as anybody.
The bottom line is that Wikipedia isn't about any one editor. Not me. Not you. It's about coöperation.
Lastly, let me commend to you the words of Marsilio Ficino: Three things in particular patience teaches us, it seems to me: first, that you should be willing to bear cheerfully the ills that nature herself bids you bear unwillingly; second, that you should make those things that fate has decreed to be inevitable, agreeable to your own will; third, that you should turn any evil whatsoever into good, which is the office of God alone. in the first of these, patience requires you to oppose nature, in the second, to confound fate, and in the third, to raise yourself to the level of God. -- Pete ( talk) 22:11, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
I just want to say thank you for your patience and diligence on the recent BRD process on the Lynx page. I think the discussion generated is twice as long as the actual page! -- IanOsgood ( talk) 05:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Hey N2e, thanks for placing those Subscription templates, but note that you've been placing them inside the citation template. Might want to move them outside for display purposes, and so there's no potential muckups for future formatting. — Huntster ( t @ c) 15:46, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
"|subscription=yes"
parm/value pair inside the cite template. Don't yet know if/how that is preferred to the {{
subscription required}} approach, but it looked promising if I ever need to do a bunch of these cleanups in the future.|subscription=yes
parameter, which after testing shows itself to be perfect here, since it includes a mouseover note stating that "Sources are not required to be available online." I would definitely recommend it in the future, and I'll go through and fix the misplaced templates now. —
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Fixed by
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N2e, I just wanted to point out that User CorporateM removed your recent contribution to Suburban Express article in a stealth edit which supposedly added a clarification:
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Suburban_Express&diff=580292474&oldid=580259980
This is a pattern which CorporateM seems to routinely follow when twisting this article to his POV. If you are an admin, perhaps you will want to look at SlimVirgin's suggestions on the article's talk page.
Best Arri at Suburban Express ( talk) 14:55, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
e have battled all sorts of fraud during the course of our history - people making fake tickets, tons of bad checks, people passing their receipt out the bathroom window to a friend who then tells driver he is getting back on, and so forth. Fraud has lead to collection action of various forms, and it recently got some negative press because a small handful of nasty little assholes decided to devote their lives to trashing us. Their actions have not impacted ridership, but they have frustrated my employees and I by trashing us online wherever they get the chance. My instincts tell me that the user who is most committed to injecting POV into the article was contacted by one of the haters, who works in PR for the university and has contacts in that world.
The supposed "controversy" is a mish-mash of different issues that the haters are promoting, all rolled into one: 1) we filed 100ish small claims suits in a short period of time. the number was unusual because we had about a 2 year backlog of debts to collect; 2) A subcontracted driver was rude to a student who does not speak english. He was promptly reprimanded and we sought to apologize to the passenger, but did not succeed in identifying her. A loudmouth narcissistic attention seeking student who was on the bus posted the story to facebook from the bus and spent every waking moment posting the story everywhere he could. 3) This led to a situation on Reddit where the loudmouth and his friends were trashing S.E. as best they could and the moderator started manipulating the conversation, by deleting comments made in support of S.E. That got out of hand and our attorney sent a demand letter to the moderator. The moderator then exploited free-speech bloggers and caused the BIG STORY to spread. Self-interest came into play - Reddit is owned by conde nast. Reddit benefits from awareness of reddit. Reddit can only exist if users are free to say whatever they want. Conde Nast also owns Ars Technica. Ars Technica wrote several blog posts about how horrible SE is for trying to suppress free speech on reddit. See how this works? Downstream lower-quality blogs regurgitated the free-speech story.
Two of the haters, now armed with SOURCES, took to Wikipedia and transformed this https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Suburban_Express&oldid=542659074 into a very skewed mess. Then the problem became recursive - bloggers mentioned wikipedia, which led readers to trash the wikipedia page even more. Wiki editors cited the articles that cited wikipedia and the list of blogs that had covered the matter grew and grew. Now, the haters assert that the body of trash-news justifies giving the trash significant weight in the article - to the point where the real story of the company is pushed out. You can see this in corpm's proposed edit. He wants to remove from the lede the fact that the company was started by a student, and other key facts.
In any event, I applaud your efforts to move the article in a more academic direction, and I'm glad that someone with an econ background has arrived on-scene. You may find some stuff here interesting: http://www.toeppen.com
Best Arri at Suburban Express ( talk) 16:23, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I made some corrections to the Bed sizes article (not the most important one...), which immediately got reverted by you. I'd recommend you to save these kind of reverts to slightly more important issues, and that you consider the rest of the article before you press revert...
From the other comments on your talk page (and in the archive) I see that you hit the revert button quite often, and that you leave somewhat paternalistic messages when you do. I think you should read Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary especially when dealing with good faith efforts.
Ebben ( talk) 00:25, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I'm N2e. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Bed size, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you.
Hi, not sure why you thought my change to the 3D printing page wasn't constructive, the 3D printer in question's name was incorrect (it was called the Peach Printer rather than the Peachy Printer), so I corrected it. If you don't believe me, then feel free to check their website: http://www.peachyprinter.com/ or even the reference given at the end of the sentence in question, which both give the correct name.
I have mentioned you in an Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents post 24.15.78.1 ( talk) 04:58, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
I've nominated Paranor for retargeting at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 November 13#Paranor. Since you participated in the AfD discussion for the page, you may be interested in commenting on this proposal. -- BDD ( talk) 19:13, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, N2e , please notice , this User ip 111.243.34.140 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/111.243.34.140 , Vandalism a lot of article, please stop it , thank you Buglerazedg21dnlole ( talk) 12:42, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi, i am sorry but this is beyond my competency.-- Beaucouplusneutre ( talk) 11:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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